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…and as they saw their worst nightmare come true, the nation about to be led by a black man they’d already convinced themselves was “the most liberal senator in America,” backed by a constantly growing Democratic majority in both houses of Congress, with progressives and Democrats making gains in statehouses and city councils across the nation, they stood their ground, they raised their game, they made one last heroic stand pulling out all the stops … for discrimination. For denying rights to a large minority of Americans. They even said it was the most important thing to them on Tuesday, more important than the Presidential Election. Why? I still can’t figure it out. None of their stated reasons make any sense at all, no matter how often commenters here repeat them. I suppose they just wanted to show that they still can cause some harm, that there is still a remaining cohesion within the bizarre and unholy alliance between the bottomlessly greedy plutocrats running the GOP and the fearful churchgoers pounding the pavement for them… before they finally show each other the door for good. But meanwhile we all know the good Reverend Doctor was right when he observed, “the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice.”
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Vern,
Look at the level of vehemence in your post, and at the degree to which you denigrate those whose perspective is from the political right. When you say you can’t figure it out, why this is so important to conservative Americans (you’re talking about Prop 8), I don’t believe you’ve made any thoughtful attempt to put yourself in their places. Vern, if you actually represented the true attitudes the political left, conservative citizens would have a very valid reason for fearing progressive liberals in governmental authority. To be ruled by people who consider one’s very character and motives to be selfish and vile is as frightening to a conservative as to a liberal or a gay or lesbian citizen.
Now, I personally voted against proposition 8, not that I felt it denied fundamental rights to citizens, but only because it had no impact on my own marriage, and it seemed very important to gay and lesbian citizens. But at the bottom of your comment you quote Dr. M.L.King who most likely would have encouraged a vote for prop 8, as did most conservative black ministers in this election. King was a very traditional Christian, but I’m sure he had no ill will toward gays and lesbians, and would have supported other ways for them to achieve full civil rights without a legal redefinition of a church sacrament.
Hey Doc! Ya, my post is vehement. I stand behind every word. I think you’ve been away from this blog for a while but I’ve been engaging the Pro-Prop 8 folks for months now. I can list all their arguments by memory, and none of them really make sense.
King was a lot more forward thinking than you give him credit for; he stood out from a lot of his contemporaries, for example coming out against the Vietnam War before any of them, and urging economic policies that seemed radical at the time. I’m pretty sure that – especially if he were existing in 2008 – he would totally insist on equal rights for gays. (Like his good friend and colleague Bayard Ruskin.) And in any case, it’s a hell-of apt quote for this time, this case.
I opposed Prop 8, however the voters of California, for the second time, supported this brand of discrimination. At the end of the day the voters have spoken. It doesn’t matter one iota who pumped money into any campaign — it isn’t against the law as long as they complied with the campaign finance laws.
In my opinion each side can wrangle about the outcome of this vote, however the message being teletyped to the voters is … your vote does not count because it’s the wrong brand of vote.
And we wonder why more Americans don’t vote.
prop 8 was also supported by large sections of blacks and latino, who probably also voted Democrat so maybe you should change your headline to the democrat left and the republican right join forces to say one final f u to America
Gay marriage issue Most Blacks and Hispanics will see as just another twist on White Priviledge in extremism. Gays have awaken the Core of America, and now they have made themselves the most visible threat to American children. People do love their children, so as long as there is children, Gays can only expect to win battles, as they shamelessly spill their rotted throwup on society who tries to duck it. One day Gays will understand that intelligence and education and money does not guarantee sanity, and they are their own fight club whipping their own arse. The world will fight them everyway overtly and covertly and they in turn will punch each others rectum in Oblivion. Ha Ha. this is some funny sh-t
White Priviledge equals right to dooky hole punching. Quoting ML is blasphamy, because he will say if the arc has not swung to pay Reparations to 310 years of forced labor called slavery, what arc are you talking about, the Arc of Satan your insanity calls justice is what you are seeking. Good luck, I think you’ll get it.