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I’ll be adding to this list as more things occur to me, but here are 17 thoughts occurring to me at this point while listening to the Senate’s impeachment fight.
The Process Arguments
- “In an election year!” Let’s get real about the howling that this is all happening in an election year, while it shouldn’t. The President’s offensive actions occurred in the run-up to an election year, and dealt with matters related to the upcoming election. It’s not the Democrats’ fault that this proceeding is happening in an election year — it’s literally the only time they can bring it. Is it disruptive of the election? Yes, but if the charges are not meritless — and they aren’t — then that timing is the President’s fault.
- Why speed through it? Fairness! If Trump is removed from office, Republicans have to choose a new candidate. Democrats have had to get through as quickly as possible — and remember that Pelosi’s 33-day delay to pressure McConnell to call witnesses (the wisdom of which is now apparent) was over the holidays, and so took up only five Senate business days. If they didn’t wait to complete every task they would have wanted to, it’s because had they waited the Republicans would have attacked the effort as emerging too late to allow a fair election. (Which of course they’re doing anyway.)
- It’s not “overturning an election.” Voters elected Pence as well, to cover a situation in which Trump could not serve in office. And if it were “overturning an election,” all of those judicial appointments would go away — which they won’t.
- Trump’s lawyers think that there should be a “party veto.” Yes, impeachment should be bipartisan if possible, but it is acceptable if it is compelling enough so that it would be bipartisan if the other party were not intent on blocking it regardless of its merit. That is the situation that we have here. (It would not be possible to get complete party unity for a meritless position within the Democratic Party, which is much more ideologically diverse than Republicans. Conservative Dems increase their cred by defecting; in contrast, liberal Republicans get blackballed.) There is no constitutional requirement that either party get a veto over an impeachment started by the other — and given that the opposition may be in bad faith, there shouldn’t be.
High Crimes and Misdemeanors
- Inchoate offenses: The President is most clearly guilty of an actual crime in the form of what are called “inchoate offenses” — such as attempt and solicitation of crimes. If you want a real crime that the Founders would recognize, go with “Attempted Extortion” and, only slightly less clearly, “Solicitation of a Bribe.” The punishment for attempt or solicitation of a crime is exactly the same as the punishment for the underlying crime. But you don’t need a real crime.
- Charging a crime: Given how they’ve proceeded with this, Democrats should have charged crimes anyway. It’s a lot easier for people to understand, and this for Senators trying not to run afoul of voter to support. While Trumps guilt on attempted extortion and solicitation of a bribe can still be argued, it’s leads to judgments of fact on the lines of whether President Zelensky felt pressure to comply and whether a ready-made sound bite to use in ads attacking Biden — which he cared enough to solicit — is a “thing of value.” That’s much firmer ground to be fighting on than the sort of technical chatter what you see here.
- “Information” may not categorically be a “thing of value,” but solicited information obviously is. The notion presented on Thursday that information is not valuable, when it has been solicited, is silly.
- Witness tampering — especially of Zelensky. Trump’s own established demeanor is — unfortunately him — relevant to questions related to coercion, duress, and outright tampering with witnesses. Another President may have been able to get away with asking Zelensky to investigate Burisma, and whether the former prosecutor was honestly trying to suss out the truth or trying to bury it, without conveying the sense that he was putting Zelensky under duress. Trump can’t, because gaining and exerting leverage is his game. Zelensky, EVEN NOW, has to worry that if he admits that Trump was trying to pressure him (even if he believed that he was completely immune from such influence, which he pretty obviously was not), Trump will punish his country out of pique at him and people in his country will die as a result, along with his country being dismembered. The evidence shows that Zelensky was under pressure from Trump, and that he could not and still cannot stand up against him as a witness. THAT IS WHERE YOU SEE THE EXTORTION. Zelensky cannot and should not be called to testify, but it’s no slam on him to recognize that as the head of his country he simply cannot say out loud what he clearly knows to be true. That’s common with cases of witness tampering.
Violations of Trust
- The real problem is that our Chief Executive violated fiduciary rules: Let’s face it, please: the major violation by Trump was that he is in a position of trust (as Hamilton wrote) as the Chief Executive (tantamount to Chief Executive Officer) of the nation, and he violated that trust by attempting to extort an ally we have promised to protect (in exchange for their giving up their nukes) into giving him a bribe (a soundbite for his reelection campaign.) In doing so, he acted to the detriment of the nation and to the benefit of our adversary, Russia, who is in a hot war (i.e., shots being fired, tanks rolling, territory invaded) with our ally.
- How can we keep this sort of charge from expanding in scope? This is a good question, but once we define the President’s offense as a breach of public trust, we have all sort of rules we can borrow to analyze it. One of the most useful might be one for a breach of private trust — the Business Judgment Rule — which suggests the latitude that corporate officers and directors have in performing their jobs, including what sorts of decisions can and cannot be challenged as a breach of fiduciary duty. (Hint: self-serving actions to the detriment of the benefit of the corporation are bad.) We could adopt the well-worked principles of the BJR to constrain the sorts of charges that can be brought against our nation’s President and Chief Executive Officer.
- The Northern Cone argument is better than Democrats admit — but still not good enough. Yes, the President can legally withhold (at least to some extent) duly appropriated money from Guatemala et al. to induce them to stanch the flow of immigration. And more importantly, he can do so even if he knows that doing so it to his political advantage — leads to emphasis on his position on his signature issue. BUT, he can’t do so in order to obtain cooperation from them that is intended primarily for a campaign talking point and attack ad . That is when it crosses the line into a political contribution. This is a closer call than I realized it was — Nixon going to China is probably the best example of “mixed motivation,” though I don’t think I’ve heard it raised, and it was clearly justifiable even if it was intended in part to justify his reelection — but there’s still a legitimate line to be drawn. Nixon’s China trip and Trump’s squeezing the Northern Cone were both legitimate strategic choices in foreign policy; they were legitimate because they were significant in themselves. What Trump did in Ukraine was not motivated by foreign policy concerns, but by selfish concerns clearly tied to his campaign.
Looking Backwards
- Dems erred by overly protecting their moderates and frosh: If this removal trial goes south, it will be because Democrats were not aggressive enough — in charging crimes, and in at least bringing up an omnibus count comprising all of the instances of collusion (not conspiracy, collusion) found in the Mueller Report. They needed to turn around the Republican narrative of that report — and instead they have left it as a weapon for Republicans. They should have charged crimes because they were there. But this, the thinking goes, would lead to hard votes on the part of frosh like Gil Cisneros, Katie Porter, Harley Rouda, and Mike Levin (among others.) They could have survived those hard votes better than they can survive a weak case.
- And, now, Dems are making the same sort of mistake in protecting the Bidens. If this had been John Kerry or Walter Mondale, they wouldn’t be blocking everything. Its because it’s a leading candidate for President, one popular with the party’s centrist wing, that they are. Unfortunately, the argument that he has nothing to do with Trump’s actions is about the least compelling part of his case. It’s probably true, but it’s not obviously true: it is a question of fact.
Looking Forward
- A “mistrial” right now might be perfect! Lawyers for the President have argued that if someone tried to substitute a new crime into the charges at this point in proceedings it would lead to a mistrial. That analogy is not apt — but if Republicans think it is than a mistrial might be apt. Send it back to the Democrats with instructions to produce specific offenses to be argued. There’s no actual need for this, but it’s probably what would happen anyway.
- Hunter Biden should testify. And if it were Jane Sanders, or Elizabeth Warren’s kid, they would be obliged to testify too. If Trump wants to get into a nepotism argument with Democrats, bring it on. Trump’s defense is that he really believed that the Bidens were involved in a significant crime and cover-up and that that’s why he needed this investigation from Ukraine — enough to distance himself from them during a hot war with an adversary. Right now, this is being asserted by his counsel without proof; it should be taken seriously enough that it would requite Hunter Biden to say what we did and didn’t do, and with what sort of understanding. If it’s clear that Trump could not have reasonably held this suspicion, that hurts his case.
- Donald Trump Should Be Deposed. This is, at base, now a trial about a fact. That fact is whether Trump truly thought that, when he extorted Zelensky into agreeing to announce investigations into Burisma and Crowdstrike, he truly and honestly believed that this was called for as a matter of national interest — as opposed to merely private interest, including the private interest of electing him. (A secondary consideration is whether, if true, those beliefs were reasonable enough to satisfy rules applying to fiduciaries. That’s the defense — and 7 lawyers saying that that could be true, or asserting that it is true without evidence, means nothing. If that is the defense he has to mount it himself and endure cross-examination about his account of it. Trump’s credibility is at issue here. The Senate is sitting as a finder of fact: they have to judge Trump’s credibility, and that means that they have to hear from Trump, because without that his defense is mere supposition.
A Final Note
- What if it were Utah? I think that it was Senator Pat Leahy who yesterday asked a version the question that I had previously posted in my post on “What if It Had Been Utah?” — essentially, what if the President had used this sort of pressure domestically, on a state of municipal government. I was so excited! Then Hakeem Jeffries’s response was almost entirely obliterated by the NPR station I was listening to, which decided to break away from the hearings at exactly that moment. If anyone can fill me on on what he said, I’d appreciate it!
I didn’t realize till now – TWENTY-THREE Senate seats now held by Trump-enabling Republicans are up this Novemeber (versus only 12 Democrat seats.)
TWENTY-THREE22 seats held now by cowards and crooks who conspired to cover up the President’s crimes, out of terror of his tweets and Mitch McConnell’s monstrous SuperPac. Who are they? We ought to be able to replace a LOT of them.Dan Sullivan of Alaska.
Martha “liberal hack” McSalley of Arizona – gone!
Tom Cotton of Arkansas.
Cory Gardner of Colorado.
David Perdue of Georgia.
Kelly Loeffler of Georgia.
Jim Risch of Idaho.
Joni Ernst of Iowa, a real thug.
Pat Roberts of Kansas.
MCCONNELL of Kentucky, the worst of all.
Bill Cassidy of Louisiana,
[Susan Collins of Maine – voted for witnesses this week, but still pretty fucking useless.]
Cindy Hyde-Smith of Mississippi.
Steve Daines of Montana.
Ben Sasse of Nebraska.
Thom Tillis of North Carolina.
Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma. Wait, how is he still in Congress? He’s like a clone of Dana Rohrabacher!
Lindsay Fucking Graham of the Secession State – lost his conscience for good.
Mike Rounds of South Dakota.
Lamar Alexander of Tennessee.
John Cornyn of Texas – gone!
Shelly Moore Capito of West Virginia.
and Mike Enzi of Wyoming.
All good Americans have to do our best to replace most of these 22-23 along with the mooncalf of a President our neighbors unleashed in 2016.
Exactly what Vern said. Quit fiddling.
Those are also an especially conservative group of states. General thinking is that the following are reasonably possible:
McSally of Arizona
Gardner of Colorado
Perdue or Loeffler of Georgia (if Stacey Abrams runs)
Ernst of Iowa
McConnell, because he’s drawn a good challenger
Collins of Maine
Daines of Montana (longshot)
Tillis of North Carolina
Graham of South Carolina (longshot)
The seat held by Alexamder of Tennessee, who is retiring
The seat held by Cornyn of Texas, who is retiring
Capito of West Virginia (longshot, only possible if Bernie is nominated)
I think that most of the challengers of this subset have mail coming into my spam box — so if anyone wants to know how to find them, let me know.
No credit to Collins. She got a free pass – just like the kleptos are always giving Brandman. If Murkowski hadn’t turned out to be 1) crooked, or 2) a coward, Collins would have been handed the bag of shit.
You’d think the ones leaving would have the decency to do the right thing for once in their otherwise totally unremarkable lives. But no. Chickenshit to the end. I actually voted for that fool Alexander once.
Question;
Clearly, the Mueller report laid out actions committed that could not be pursued due to prohibitions against charging the President with crimes. Why did the Dems not use that as the basis for impeachment? Don’t get me wrong, i think Trump full-on deserved the impeachment for the actions on Ukraine, but why not Ukraine AND Russia? Just my non-lawyer mind wondering….
No, you’re thinking straight, which is (one reason) why you could never be a member of the Democratic Party’s leadership. which presumes that taking strong stands is a loser.
It’s because Mueller’s (unwilling) appearance before Congress, where he took a non-partisan rather than an aggressive stance towards the President, seemed like a failure to them and made them look bad, so they concluded that no one could ever use the details in the report (primarily the several about obstruction of justice)to convince the public that there was something wrong. Some Democrats (like Steyer and the Squad) believed that these clearly justified impeachment, but the party leadership takes its being frightened extremely seriously and so shut them down. That Republicans pretend Pelosi is some sort of lioness is a pretty funny joke. She’ll take any excuse to give up — and fight those who won’t.
*Dirty is dirty…no matter how you count it or color it. Luckily, we have had several very poor examples of Presidential power. It proves one thing. Party means nothing. Corruption is based opon paid off conduct which is beyond the pale. Starting with Truman, then JFK, then Nixon, Ford, Carter, Clinton, George the Elder and of course the present extreme example of ugly at its best. All in all, we can say, our country has lost its compass and lost its direction toward a world filled with truth and love. Pappa always said, no one ever promised you a fair world. The truth is, that our military and its misuse has created a world of fear and waste. The German mantra of “War or Rebuilding” is alive and well. The truth however is that the evil and mean spirited leftovers of the Republican party will have to live with their sins. Not now, but into the future for the next 100 years. No one will ever believe or forgive their tripe and lack of
ethical fortitude. Oh well, we made it through Andrew Johnson and Andrew Jackson…so I guess we can make it through Warren G. Harding ….the 2nd!