La Verite or Truth 1870
Truth seems to have taken a step forward this year. The Rovian tactics of “He is an Arab” and a “Marxist” seem to have lost to a campaign based on hope and substantive change. Secrecy and stonewalling are giving way to more enlightened way of governing.
In Orange County truth and justice are not necessarily the guiding principle that moves our politicians.
Miguel Pulido still wants to force out Latinos out of the east side of Santa Ana to hook up his developer buddies. Everything is fine is the mantra, while much of the city suffers from crime and foreclosures.
The Shadow was recently listening to last month’s blog talk radio on OC Blog.
When the subject turned to Santa Ana, Matt Cunningham 
initially starts off being critical of Santa Ana but recedes as Adam Probolsky goes into a full cheer for Pulido.
Adam says:
“Santa Ana is on the rise, life is good in Santa Ana, pretty solid leadership team, … Miguel Pulido is the guy I want running it… Doing the best of it they can.”
Really? Does anyone think Pulido is as good as you can get? Maybe Pulido is closest to being a Republican but certainly not close to being the best for the city or the people. Is Adam bucking for some business from Team Pulido?
Sadly again, Truth takes a back seat to cow towing to the Santa Ana power structure. Adam should be ashamed of himself.
Here is a link to the program: I believe Matt and Adam begin talking about Santa Ana around minute 31.
http://www.redcounty.com/orange-county/2008/11/red-county-radio-roundtable-el/
OC Shadow,
Good catch! Pulido paid Probolsky a bundle this year to conduct polling for Team Pulido.
Probolsky is also an ally of Supervisor Janet Nguyen. She complains daily about the Santa Ana City Council, but she did NOTHING to help her fellow Republican George Collins in his race against Pulido. Now we know why…
And Nguyen endorsed the idiotic Carlos Bustamante.
What an interesting way to affect change in Santa Ana.
I really don’t understand this sort of criticism of guys like Adam Probolsky and Matt Cunningham. It’s their job to promote causes of one sort or another in a public arena. To confuse what they promote with what they actually believe or don’t believe strikes me as rather non-sensical.
David,
I think the problem is that Matt is a blogger but he is also a paid shill. That is a conflict of interest. That is why he used to hide behind the anon name “Jubal,” until he was outed by the OC Weekly.
As for Probolsky, the issue here is that he is an OC GOP Central Committee member but he actively promotes Democrats like Pulido, even though the OC GOP endorsed George Collins this year against Pulido.
Art,
My point is that you always remember that they are paid “consultants” and so you just prepare yourself for the spin. It’s a caveat emptor thing.
What the GOP Central Committee does with its wayward members is of absolutely no interest to me. I’m surprised they’re not issuing resolutions supporting Mike Carona.
To confuse what they promote with what they actually believe or don’t believe strikes me as rather non-sensical.
Pray tell, David Zenger the All Knowing: Give me an example of me “promoting” on Red County something I didn’t believe?
I think the problem is that Matt is a blogger but he is also a paid shill. That is a conflict of interest. That is why he used to hide behind the anon name “Jubal,” until he was outed by the OC Weekly.
Art, the day you actually know what you’re talking about will probably be a sign the world is coming to an end.
“Pray tell, David Zenger the All Knowing: Give me an example of me “promoting” on Red County something I didn’t believe?”
Oh dear, you’re far too sensitive. I didn’t accuse you of hypocrisy. I simply observed that it makes sense to regard the blogging of people who get paid to promote political stuff, with healthy skepticism. Similarly, crticizing them for lack of ideological or partisan consistancy (as OC Shadow seems to be suggesting) makes little sense to me.
How can Janet Nguyen did not endorse her fellow republican George Collins in Santa Ana mayoral race, can somebody tell me why?
Oh dear, you’re far too sensitive.
Gag. The “you’re all sooo tiresome” routine gets old.
The meaning of your original statement was very plain. I simply asked you to substantiate it, and you accuse me of being “too sensitive.”
Then you explained that you meant something entirely different from what you originally said.
If you didn’t mean what you wrote, then I’d advise writing what you mean.
Lastly, please point out where I use the blog to “promote political stuff”? Outside of the Disney/SunCal fight of 2007, and maybe two references to work I did for an IE committee in the 2008 election, there aren’t any.
But don’t let that get in the way of a lazy generalization.
“The meaning of your original statement was very plain”
Great. Then I won’t have to bother explaining it again.
No, but you might bother substantiating it.
Unless you want to change your story again.
What is that stench in here?
Looks to be Matt Cunningham’s “Brilliance” on this thread.
RV, one day you might actually say something that makes sense. After all, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
After all, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
How Pithy! These weekend visits by you are sooooo interesting, Matt!
…the money you took from Diane Harkey for consulting purposes while promoting her on the bulletin board called OC Blog.
Don’t forget:
Your ignorance can be excused, since you are probably basing your accusation on that truth-challenged OC Weekly article, written by Paul Brennan and/or Will Swaim, depending on which byline the Weekly appended to it when you read it.
I did no consulting for Harkey’s campaign, which bought a blogad on OC Blog, and incidentaly, I had cumming out in support of Harkey for Senate well before her campaign bought the blogad.
Nice try, though.
“Your ignorance can be excused….”
Matt, your arrogance and your incivility don’t play well here and they don’t play well at your own site. I think the lack of reader discussions at RC are evidence enough of that.
Please put yourself in check. Certainly a self-proclaimed brilliant writer can take the higher road when posting to OJ denizens.
Thanks for your consideration.