The O.C. Register is reporting that “A majority of Californians say immigrants help the state
How about money? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeWjEYhk7Xo
The O.C. Register is reporting that “A majority of Californians say immigrants help the state
I wrote about this earlier and didn’t publish, I don’t know why.
It’s so strange that Republicans are so out of touch with residents. No one actually says how much money they think these new laws will save AND how much they would cost to enact.
It’s easy to use immigration as an election year wedge issue and even easier when the State is facing a budget crunch.
I’m so sad…
I had such a long comment about this that I was going to make it a full post instead. So much for that. It got lost in a tragic cut and paste incident. 🙁
Bottom line: we need to keep the good undocumenteds in a worker program towards citizenship and deport the very few criminals and those who cannot contribute to our economy. It’s more fair and a lot less expensive than trying to deport millions.
Secondly, we need to beef up border patrol and give it a ‘detain only’ mandate. No shotgun and pitchfork Minutemen need apply.
Then finally, we acknowledge that Mexicans flee to this country for more opportunity. If American is to use aid for humanitarian and strategic concerns all over the world, then they must provide more to our own neighbors and subsequently quell both concerns!
SMS
Oh, and the studies about illegal immigration can only be considered in relation to their source.
I don’t think we’ll ever get the figures right, so let’s forget the past and concentrate on a plan for the future and action in the present.
SMS
Sarah Michelle Spinosa,
You have it totally wrong, socialist kiddo.
If you want to have free society you must maintain open borders and eliminate social programs.
In free society only market forces should dominate! Nothing else.
It is always socialists with their illogical social supports which creates problems.
I mean Reps. are socialists too.
Just wait when these morons will forgive the mortgage debt to idiots who have no concept of money and free market.
#4
So during the Great Depression government shouldn’t have done anything? It’s the ‘social programs’ that keep it from happening again.
Only market forces should dominate? No forgiveness of mortgage debt? Open borders? There are these other social programs you may not be aware of, they’re called regulations. Without them, large corporations take advantage of consumers and monopolies prevail.
So you want environmental destruction, no social order, Enron, Microsoft, uninsured drivers, etc?
Do you just want to come here and verbally denigrate our country and suggest we reduce it to an anarchy, or do you want to take that energy of yours and turn it into positive solutions?
I’m only a socialist to you because you’re such a fascist. More extremism. This time from the right.
SMS
Oh, and why does everyone keep calling me ‘kiddo?’ lol I’m nearly 30 and have a family of my own. Andrew Davey just turned 21, so I’m far from the youngest blogger in OC. 😛
It’s no biggie, just an observation. 😉
SMS
#6 The reason everyone is keeping calling you kiddo is apparently because you act like one. Your physical age actually works against you. As you will mature, you may discover that what is clear and obvious to you now will appear to be ridiculous, and what is unclear and fuzzy now, will become more and more clear to you.
Just slow down and think!
#7
The reason they call me kiddo is to discredit me, like you’re attempting to do by labeling me with a youth-oriented philosophy.
Thanks for taking the bait with your baseless attack. I’ve had plenty of unique life experience. Chronology is irrelevant.
‘Slow down and think.’ I see. The ‘crazy’ thing again. Seriously, that horse is VERY dead my friend.
SMS
OK Sarah,
Your #8 response is a good example. A mature person would have no need to make utterances about his/her “plenty of unique life experience” because such experiences would obviously reflect on his/her presentation.
There is no need to trumpet your quality to the world.
As a kiddo you should know when one is desperate or cool.
So if you are almost 30 try to respond simply by stating: “Thanks #9 you are correct”.
Furthermore, you do not need to reply to every idiot to his idiotic statement.
You will achieve your maturity when you realize that the “silence is golden.”
#9
My purpose here is create a stir for open debate. Silence doesn’t tend to do much to that end.
You’re way off-base about my ‘trumpeting.’ Many comments have questioned my credentials, and I’m simply answering their concerns. Again, silence so often equals guilt, so yeah, I’m going to speak up when I find it appropriate.
I’m sorry, but we’re going to have to agree to disagree. Now THAT is ‘maturity.’ YOU will achieve it when you stop making personal judgments about people whom you don’t know personally.
SMS
WOW! 2200 people were polled!
They got to speak for all Californians.
I know where I live, the city population is approaching 400K.
Add that to the rest of the cities around the state’s roughly 35 and a half million residents, and it becomes apparent that those 2200 people are very special.
The PPIC polls are bull crap, and the miniscule sampling methods they use to support their points are an example of just how ridiculous this group is.
Their claim that “A majority of Californian’s” think this is most likely an out and out lie.
In fact, the OC Register’s own poll debunks the PPIC’s BS with their own poll that overwhelmingly shows that even local Californians do not think that.
Not that it matters, but this PPIC nonsense was not from an OC Register article per se, it was from one of their blogs.
#11,
Yes, every poll involves a SAMPLE. That does not mean this poll is wrong. In fact the Register’s poll would never be accepted as science because it is NOT a representative sample.
And yes, this info came from a Register blog, which means it came from the Register. Duh!