The O.C. media onslaught continued today as the O.C. Register’s Steven Greenhut asked in his Orange Punch blog, “What are Santa Ana Officials Hiding?” Here is his post:
OK, they are hiding plenty given the nature of their latest redevelopment scheme called the Renaissance Plan. Gustavo Arellano of the OCWeekly and the LA Times take the City Council to task for not televising all of their public council meetings. Mayor Miguel Pulido said the cameras make council members nervous. Well, then they shouldn
This is a change from the days when the OC Register praised Santa Ana for it’s efforts with the Artists Village.
I don’t know how television cameras could make council members nervous. These people have no problem asking donors for money, plastering their names all over the city, etc… yet, they get nervous at the thought of being televised?
Maybe you should go live in Houston, where the lack of zoning allows you to have a gas station on one side of your house and a goat farm on the other.
I remember Carlos Bustamonte running for Council on a strong Republican platform. He got heavy funding from the Lincoln Club and was touted as the great brown rising star! How can he be supporting this Big Government land grab? I hope I’m wrong but I heard that he supports it.
Pulido doesn’t want to televise many meetings because he doesn’t want peopple to realize he is losing his hair. Then he can’t keep on using his twenty year old campaign picture anymore!
If no one could understand a word you said, you wouldn’t want to be televised either. May be that is why Claudia “Mayor Pro Tem(porary insanity)” said the technology didn’t exist to stream the meetings.
This is the same Lou Correa that wanted to have a homeless shelter built across the street from the train station. That’s great city planning Louis.
after going to the city website and looking at the plan, it seems to make sense. It looks like there were a lot of public meetings. It also looks like Logan, Lacy and French park are protected. Why would the businesses in the area who are affecting the neighbors want to stay where they are not wanted? It looks pretty good to me.
It’s great to see the OC Register be vocal about the issue of open and transparent government in Santa Ana.
Anon #6
Your absolutely right. Nobody can’t understand what she is saying. I have never heard a council member with a heavy accent like hers. Where did she get her JD Mexico?
# 8
Look a little closer at the plan. How is Logan protected when they intend to close off Washington for the French park Crowd?
How is Logan protected when they have planned a 35 story building to hover over the neighrborhood?
How is Lacy protected when they exclude section B? Section B retains airspace and will be free to build a 35 story building on their land!
French park is not part of the RSP,yet they get to close off Washington and have no traffic!!!
Instead that traffic will add to Santiago!!!!!
And who are you to dictate to a business that resides on land that has been industrial for the last 200 years? And who really said they are not wanted? We never heard anyone actually say that in any of the meetings!!
Look again and really analyze each document that has been released in the last year and a half.
After that make a educated posting.
#8. Why would the businesses want to stay? Do your Santa Ana homework. Some of the Industrial Businesses have been in the area 50 plus years and there has been no problems. No complaints from the residents.
These city planners need to wake the hell up.
#11
Can any of you whining doomsayers read and comprehend?
You’re so obsessed with French Park possibly getting a traffic plan to help preserve a neighborhood that still has hope, you are blind to the facts.
Had you paid any attention at all to the MULTIPLE presentations you would know that
Washington would be closed ONLY if the PARK *you’re always crying about* gets built
The park will only be built if all the other pieces come together ie;
housing, lofts, live/work, retail, all along that corridor.
What is the likelyhood of that?
The park and the closer would come LAST. So stop sniveling and settle down, French Park isn’t getting anything to improve the lives of the 300+ households that live there.
It is a shame that those of you doing the most complaining are so dense and shortsighted. If you had a clue about ANYTHING you would know that every time any neighborhood improves, everybody wins.
#13
We’re dense enough to know that your French Park traffic plan landed in the courts because you and your city pals violated the civil rights of numerous French Park residents. It’s also a well known fact that you were one of the most vocal opponents to Northgate market’s presence in French Park. And the tales of you snitching on your neighbors for code violations is legendary.
So you stop your damn sniveling; many have just reason to be suspicious of you and your motives. It’s no secret that you are an avid Mexican hater.
Yes, we comprehend your desire to shoo all Mexicans from the city.
Perhaps you’re the one who is too dense and shortsighted to realize the demographics of the city are not going to change the way you want them to.
In closing, what makes your brand of change superior?
To #13 —
You’re the one who is dense and lacks comprehension skills.
Since you’re so damn bright explain why the city wants to put about 175 busineses into a non-comforming classification.
What is wrong with building homes for the masses? Many business have been displaced by housing all over the county and in the city of Santa Ana.
Land owners take a risk on their holding.
If they get zoned out by dually elected officials, then they guessed wrong, but that was their risk to take.
#13,
Writes: “What is the likelihood of that?”.
If you are convinced the likelihood of the housing,lofts and retail along the corridor beign developed is small to none, why support the project?
Actually, you saying the likelihood of the project advancing to the point of affecting the closure of French Part is zero, puts you in the self described catagory of the dense and shortsighted.
I believe your definition of improving a neighborhood is the replacement of existing Hispanic residents,retail and industrial businesses with, in your opinion, a more desireable resident and businesses to service them.
This is why you support the project.
Contrary to your statement, “everyone wins”, there would be many loosers. The winners would be those that think like you, developers and the politicians.
# 14 Hey there Sean,
It was so nice not having you around.
# 14-my dearest son Sean Mill, I physically assaulted an african woman while screaming the N-Word and you as a planning commissioner will vote as your master tinajero tells you, thus your approval of the RP is sure to displace many poor people in santa ana. The turd sure didn’t fall far from the bird.
I’m so proud of you!
#19 is completely inappropriate! And no, this is not Sean.
#16
Cook — are you saying all property owners BEWARE?
#16 Cook…..
That is a risk they took when they bought their Industrial property 50years ago?? Giving this city their tax dollars for that long.
That the City Planners are going to re-zone them to force them out after a time, and make their land worth less.
That is for lack of a better word. AWESOME!
Cook, like poster #13, are clueless to the city’s attempt to place these businesses in a non-conforming classification. If their property were in jeopardy of being redesignated as non-conforming, they would be singing a different tune.
It’s unfortunate that their shortsightedness supercedes the principals that this country was founded on. It’s shameful that Santa Ana city officials – planners and elected council members – are pushing an agenda on the backs of property owners and businesses that have been tried and true revenue producing entities for numerous years. And for what? The promise of a cookie-cutter neighborhood.
Shame on Cook and #13 for gulping down Pulido’s punch.
#22
I concur, it’s AWESOME! One could liken it to getting screwed without a kiss.
#23,
Cook,#13 and other supporters perceive their neighborhood benefiting from the RSP.
Their properties are outside the RSP. The restrictions and codes do not affect them.They support the plan based on their perceived benefit.The death of businesses and elimination of residents are seen as collateral damage. Never mind those affected are their neighbors with families to provide for.
The bounderies were recently redrawn to exclude the Mayor’s family business and Sarmientos’s family business.
If the codes as drawn up in the RSP are beneficial then all those excluded above should be included in solidarity with their neighbors.
The supporters of the RSP know that the codes are intended to eliminate and cause hardship and have no concern as long as they have a perceived personal benefit. HOW SAD.
Is there a
What kind of “businesses” are they talking about?
Knowing Santa Ana and their business planning we will end up with a bunch of “already at The Block, Spectrum, Fashion Island, South Coast, etc…” businesses that will tank in about 2 years and the whole plan will end up becoming a huge clean-up that will take another 10+ years to even figure out.
Work with what you have and make something the county has never seen.
PS don’t try to be Irvine! This city is better than that and can do something great!
# 26
Do your homework! The Junk yards in Lacy are gone!
Better yet,maybe you can tell us how the Latino Health Access was approved in the Lacy neighborhood when it was part of the original RSP?
#26 cook
Not all the Industrial Buildings in the RSP area are “junk yards” as you call them.
Like I have been saying over and over, most of them have been giving this city their tax money for 50 plus years, now they are getting screwed.
I better not use the word fair. I know what the city planners think of that word.
Anon 7:47am