On one side are appeals to victimhood and big government; on the other side is liberty and entrepreneurship. Latinos need more of the latter.The firestorm ignited by Robert Deposada’s Latinos for Change ads blipped off the news cycles in less than three days. The ads urged Latinos not to vote.
But Democrats have seized on the incident as a hammer to convince Latino voters it is a Republican ploy to suppress their vote and undermine their power to decide this election.
First, I find offensive the implied assertion – by “Latino leaders” and the Univision executives – that Latino TV viewers must be protected from hearing or viewing misguided political campaign messages urging them not to vote. They suggest Latinos are too helpless to discern matters for themselves. And we are to presume these self-appointed protectors are benevolent and above reproach for their move to shield their audience.
Deposada’s message to Latinos was foolish, even if the claims he makes are true. He said Latinos are taken for granted and played by the Democrats but disrespected and denigrated by a growing chorus of Republicans who voice anti-Hispanic, anti-immigrant vitriol. Republicans don’t sound like they want to be friends.
I understand Deposada’s frustration; however, being single-issue minded when speaking to Latinos also betrays Latinos. More important issues affect Latinos: unemployment, rising taxes, a poor economy, failing public education, dramatic increases in the costs of living, health care, food, energy, bankrupt local governments, and a public employee pension tsunami. Click here to read the article.
No thank you.
Latino’s only need to look outside the door and say to themselves “how safe is my neighborhood” then ask themselves “how many losers are there in my neighborhood” and “how well is my neighborhood kids doing in school!??????”.
If the answer’s to the above are not very good one’s; then you’re area votes democrat!
Vote, republican, vote conservative!
don’t fall for the same crap the blacks did! What did they get for their vote? Nothing but the same old “victimization crap”! Vote for men like Gabriel and you will remain poor, useless and stuck in welfare hell for ever and so will your kids!
YOU KNOW I”M RIGHT
Republicans (and Democrats) create poverty through their neo-liberal policies. Do some homework. It’s fairly simple. The poverty rate spiked horribly under the Bush regime. Simple as that.
Next!
That is because he was as much of a liberal as you are socially!
What do you except we have millions of third world people in this country who have had a shit load of kids!
What did you think the poverty rate was going to do; go down???
If you look at who is getting welfare it is as follows: 51 percent LATINO!
OVER HALF! A no brainer!
Nope, try again.
If you not getting it gabriel san roman maybe you need free tickets to the Dodgers game.
What Tea Party is that?
The one funded by billionaires with Fox News as its propaganda arm?
Yes, I’m sure they have the best interests of Latinos at heart, as long as they don’t want to vote, have benefits, or work for anything above the minimum wage.
“The one funded by billionaires with Fox News as its propaganda arm?”
MQ says:
I am very much a Tea Party person and I am proud to say so!
I don’t hold anyones best interest at heart, except my own! If the latino’s are doing good it is less crap for ME to worry about! If the latino’s are happy, I am happy!
Just like I am happy if my black neighbor down the road just got a six figure promotion!
In the end it all trickles down to good neighborhoods, schools and less crime!
And the demorats don’t want latino’s working at all; after all that is what welfare is for!
It’s a old trick of the elite; keep them dumb and they will need us!
Mayor Quimby: of course you are democrat, you are not a leader!
As far as Foxnews is concerned, I am glad it is not that whack job Soros funding it!
Oh right, he is funding the great news media: NPR!
great point michell i guess they would rather pin their hopes on msnbc . these folks dont get it how many poor people start a busniness . ahhhh let me think about that one . . they keep voting for the same old people and expect different results .
Eight False Things The Public “Knows” Prior To Election Day
There are a number things the public “knows” as we head into the election that are just false. If people elect leaders based on false information, the things those leaders do in office will not be what the public expects or needs.
Here are eight of the biggest myths that are out there:
1) President Obama tripled the deficit.
Reality: Bush’s last budget had a $1.416 trillion deficit. Obama’s first budget reduced that to $1.29 trillion.
2) President Obama raised taxes, which hurt the economy.
Reality: Obama cut taxes. 40% of the “stimulus” was wasted on tax cuts which only create debt, which is why it was so much less effective than it could have been.
3) President Obama bailed out the banks.
Reality: While many people conflate the “stimulus” with the bank bailouts, the bank bailouts were requested by President Bush and his Treasury Secretary, former Goldman Sachs CEO Henry Paulson. (Paulson also wanted the bailouts to be “non-reviewable by any court or any agency.”) The bailouts passed and began before the 2008 election of President Obama.
4) The stimulus didn’t work.
Reality: The stimulus worked, but was not enough. In fact, according to the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus raised employment by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million jobs.
5) Businesses will hire if they get tax cuts.
Reality: A business hires the right number of employees to meet demand. Having extra cash does not cause a business to hire, but a business that has a demand for what it does will find the money to hire. Businesses want customers, not tax cuts.
6) Health care reform costs $1 trillion.
Reality: The health care reform reduces government deficits by $138 billion.
7) Social Security is a Ponzi scheme, is “going broke,” people live longer, fewer workers per retiree, etc.
Reality: Social Security has run a surplus since it began, has a trust fund in the trillions, is completely sound for at least 25 more years and cannot legally borrow so cannot contribute to the deficit (compare that to the military budget!) Life expectancy is only longer because fewer babies die; people who reach 65 live about the same number of years as they used to.
8) Government spending takes money out of the economy.
Reality: Government is We, the People and the money it spends is on We, the People. Many people do not know that it is government that builds the roads, airports, ports, courts, schools and other things that are the soil in which business thrives. Many people think that all government spending is on “welfare” and “foreign aid” when that is only a small part of the government’s budget.
Anonster, I’m glad to see you’re plagiarizing the Daily Kos, or do we have a real live Kossack in our midst?: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/10/22/912726/-Eight-False-Things-The-Public-Knows-Prior-To-Election-Day
I’ve tried twice now to rebut your false and unsupported points and been thwarted twice by crashes. My black helicopters mentality makes me think you’re trying to keep the truth from getting out. If I have the patience, I’ll do it a third time later. Suffice it to say that talking points from the Daily Kos carry little weight in the realm of reality.
She is a union hack!!! That is all we need to know!
Word of advice do not vote for ANYTHING that is backed by any union!
I think you know why!
anoster is a union hack that stamps anything on the far left . any prop backed up by public employee unions , teachers union . VOTE THE OTHER WAY
Bahahaha! Anoster, you can’t even think for yourself, you have to copy and paste “facts” that you have not even researched yourself. I don’t get how you think you’re better than anyone else when you’re too dumb to come up with your own ideas. Oh, and thanks, I’m so stupid I didn’t know the government builds roads, airports, ports, courts and schools. Oh, that it explains it, I’ve had it wrong all along in that case, increase my taxes. You suck.
I agree that the government should be responsible for creating our infrastructre but it is NOT OK for the government to put their hands into my pocket and take what I’ve earned through my own blood sweat and tears and hand it over to someone else who has CHOSEN not to do the same. I understand that every culture is different and values are different but when you are given opportunities and you don’t take them that is your own fault. But, I blame myself and other Latinos who have not taken the time to lend a helping hand to other Latinos and to teach and encourage them to choose a better life, not necessarily an easier one, but a better one. Afterall, that is why we all chose to emigrate from our homelands. It is possible to bridge the gap between being Latino and being an American without losing yourself and identity as a Latino and we must be held accountable for not doing our part in our community. It is not the government’s job to redistribute wealth it only keeps Latinos helpless and dependent. Latinos have a lot of pride and it disgusts me what our government has done to them and how they make us look. It is my job to do what I can in my community. That is my responsibility and I have failed and other Latinos like me have failed. “Do not ever say that the desire to “do good” by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives.” Ayn Rand Forcing Americans to pay higher taxes to support social services programs is wrong. Government power becomes greater and we as individuals are forced to succumb to their power, that is NOT the American dream. Not when millions have fled their own countries to come here. Many have risked their lives to come here and they still do. They die everyday trying to reach freedom. And then we go and do stupid things like increase the size of government and make it easy for people to just accept handouts. What a disgusting job we’ve done in America since Obama took office.
I don’t want latino’s to get a big head, but; this is why I am so passionate about Latinos getting a good education!
I see them dropping the race chip and becoming awesome Americans!
Thanks, the above was brilliant…I have a tear (not really, but close!)
🙂
Yeah, union girl you suck!
I’m a little late to this but since it was originally posted on my birthday, I felt compelled to respond:
This posting is wrong because 1) it assumes that people who are receiving public benefits could just go out and get a job and be totally ok; 2) it ignores that there are actual realities which prevent people from working to their potential in life (god forbid you should lose your job due to some accident at age 50 and find everyone unwilling to hire you – but yes my friends that happens to some and it has nothing to do with being latino or not); 3) it bespeaks a selfish disregard for your fellow human beings and more than for adults, for the innocent children who should not have to attend underfunded public schools (as an example) because their parents are for whatever reason unemployed; 4) it assumes that having a worldview that includes social welfare is somehow at odds with encouraging people to educate themselves and work hard — it is not; and finally 5) i find it really ironic that you find liberal Latinos to be concerned with one issue — immigration, considering you are concerned with one issue — money.
(i’m sure you are very well off, and if so lucky you. and if you have received a good education, lucky you again. not the case for many latinos. in fact within the latino community the differences in class/education/race/wealth are so vast as to preclude the kind of generalizations you make. a little background on who you are would probably be vastly enlightening as to why your views are such as they are.)
Cast it in as many lights as you like, the bottom line is that the tea party is about wealth — the argument is basically don’t tax anyone — let the market economy handle everything and money will eventually just trickle down to the poor classes. HA. You live in a fantasy land. Market forces are centered around self-interest. Money will not trickle down to the people at the bottom, the very idea is insulting. Poor people know that the people on top only care about number one — that is why govt is supposed to step in for the common good.
Jorge, I am not wealthy. No housekeeper, no gardener, used car with over 180K miles, but only because I have chosen a life style that gives me time to pursue different interests, and because I depend on my family network and live with in our means. No public aid. I grew up in a home where my parents never earned more than 15K in their lifetime, yet never regarded us as poor. We saw ourselves as middle class. We never flew anywhere for vacations. We’d drive from Los Angeles to El Paso Texas every summer, all piled into our station wagon. When my father was ill in the hospital and then at home, disabled for 6 months, and our savings were depleted, he asked my older sister who had left home at 23, much to my father’s displeasure, because my parents were very conservative and traditional, to please move home, to help with the mortgage. She did. My father was very proud to never have asked for aid, ever. At the end of my parents’ lives, with the advent of a govt welfare in medicine, it was different. Government has grown in size and reach into the scope of medicine, from education, to management, to regulations. I heard a congresswoman’s testimony recently at hearing on state’s right for nullification. She was speaking at a hearing in Kentucky. She asked a question that really put the results of Govt getting involved in welfare programs in medicine into perspective for me, when she asked why is an MRI exam more expensive than a high powered laptop computer? Why is the cost of an exam that is administered with a machine that is not more complicated than a powerful laptop computer more expensive?
I can’t go into the thousands of ways that govt makes everything more expensive, and less efficient, all while it purports to be using money it takes out of the private sector for the sake of paying for these burgeoning inefficiencies.
If you can’t see that govt is wasteful because it breeds mediocrity, and obscures accountability while it absolves whole institutions of having to produce measurable results, then nothing I say will change your mind. If you won’t concede that the less effective an institution is, the more it wastes, the more there are million of dollars not accounted for while the results, as in public housing or education, for example, get worse and worse, it is these same worst performing institutions that continue to get more and more money. Their budgets are increased because the excuse for worsening results is always we need more money.
Poor people would be better served in a system that did not protect the corportists, like the investment bankers and GE, and the big businesses that are all well connected, and also the multitude of social welfare agencies, and instead allowed for companies to compete, to practice ethical and moral guidelines, not deceive, or coerce, and to compete. We would have thriving schools for the cost of of a good Catholic School, if we had competition in pubic school. We would have medical care that was affordable if we had competitive health care, and not this HMO system Nixon started, and the private insurance that only Big Employers can afford and write off.
If you are interested in considering that maybe a free enterprise system, not an mercantile or Oligarchic system, would provide a fertile ground where by poor by enterprising individuals could start with small endeavors and grow wealth, and grow in economic safety and purchasing power, I would encourage you to visit websites such as CATO and The Independent Institute, and pick a subject, any subject that has to do with societal economic issues and policy and challenge yourself to refute their reasoning.
As for the person who is broke and broken, and in need of help, that is what Charity is for. Charity has been replaced by government welfare, but government welfare doesn’t do it’s role in charity as well as charity does or did in the past. We, those among us with money can take care of our own, our family members, our neighbors, and fund the orphanage and the school. Why do so many now count on Government to take care of our senior parents when they get old? We did it better before. Now people take their parents to homes and abandon them there, to be cared for by strangers who may or may not give a damn, rather than supporting our parents to live with us when they are old, and to live their last days in the dignity of their own home, or with a family member.
I could go on and on but I have stated my basic belief, that government redistributes money it takes from working people, creates bureaucracies in the process, is inefficient and wasteful, and unaccountable, and is faceless. No one is responsible when they screw up. We are better off being unencumbered, and able to enterprise. I taught my youngest son how to read using flash cards and then piece of blank paper on which I would write simple sentences to teach the sounds of the vowels and consonants in words. I buy books used now, or use the library. It doesn’t require a lot of money to be read, or educated, but it does require the presence of mind that we are capable of schooling ourselves and our own. Still, I do believe that the challenges for providing for our families are harder today than when my parents were young. But I believe that this is the result of the growth in the size of government and it’s need to continue to take more from its earners to feed itself and continue growing and spending. This has raised the costs of living and operating and has reduced the number of choices available to the poorest in our society.
“When my father was ill in the hospital and then at home, disabled for 6 months, and our savings were depleted, he asked my older sister who had left home at 23, much to my father’s displeasure, because my parents were very conservative and traditional, to please move home, to help with the mortgage. She did. My father was very proud to never have asked for aid, ever.”…….. Hmmmm
Folks you can see classical case of the OXYMORONIC statement.
No public assistance but enslaving his own 23 years old daughter after he kick her out from the house….. and your father was very proud about that.
FYI your father was an idiot and family abuser tyrant [not] conservative.
There is nothing wrong with a reasonable public assistance!
After all, we are paying taxes and insurances for that. What is wrong is unions in public sector and their greed which depletes resources and people must suffer because of that.
The unions in private sector may be OK.
It was stupid Brown who started unions in public sector in California and now 30 years later you can see what incompetence it was. Wait another 30 years and you will see no more California on the map.
So who is at fault Brown or you voters?
Stanislav Star wrote “No public assistance but enslaving his own 23 years old daughter after he kick her out from the house….. and your father was very proud about that.
FYI your father was an idiot and family abuser tyrant [not] conservative.
There is nothing wrong with a reasonable public assistance! ”
You’re the moron. How dare you insult my father and my sister. No tienes verguenza… you have no shame. You can’t see any wrong in your sense of entitlement to other people’s money… money that was taken from others… Why when we are able to take care of our own, our family, do you think we are morons if we do just that instead of being beggars as you would be or as you advocate. Eres un imbecil desgraciado pendejo y le paro alli par que no me borren mi comentario… te quiero gritar majaderias…
My father did not enslave my sister you idiot. He asked her for charity. She said yes. Her life was enriched for giving when she was needed and the love of family grew as did our legacy of standing together and thank God they were not so empty of honor and dignity and self respect that they felt as you advocate, that they needed to beg to the government.
Stanislav Star wrote: “No public assistance but enslaving his own 23 years old daughter after he kick her out from the house….. and your father was very proud about that.”
My sister was never thrown out of the house. She left to be on her own, to be independent, something someone like you probably wouldn’t understand.
There were still three of us children that were minors and not working age in the house. I think you are really pathetic that you find this noble and responsible behavior moronic… I can’t believe it. You are such a moron, unbelievably so. Good luck that you may find wisdom at some point in your life. I hope you’re young in which case there is hope, if you can see your foolishness, but if you’re my age, well, there is always the chance of a miracle for you. Other wise I can only describe your existence as no more than that of a slug.
My favorite e-newsletter today is from the Future of Freedom Foundation. I get it every day in my email box. Jacob Hornberger is Mexican American, born of a Mexican immigrant mother and an Anglo father, and having grown up in Laredo, Texas. I have spent many hours on their site, reading, listening to audio, and learning. If you should consider the possibility that you might be able to consider their point of view, and understand what it is they believe, and how it conflicts with your beliefs and constructs, and how it’s similar, I think that would be very helpful. I can assure you that the Future of Freedom Foundation scholars are concerned about the poor and the vulnerable and are motivated to advancing policy that ameliorates the plight, suffering and hardship of the poor and disadvantaged. All of the scholars are of great integrity, not because I say so, but because it is evident in the clarity and consistency of their words, writings, analysis and ideas.