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At this point, I want to see Joe Biden stay in the race to keep Mayor-for-Sale Pete Buttigieg and trollish Amy Klobuchar further down. But I have to follow a story where it takes me. And a gratuitous remark about the last question asked in the debate takes me right back to last June — and a story that Biden thought he had put behind him.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/21/biden-civil-segregationists-ally/
This was, you may remember, when Biden reminisced about how well he got along with Democratic segregationists like James Eastland and Herman Talmadge back when he was a young Senator.
With a tone-deaf bit of nostalgia Tuesday night, former Vice President Joe Biden ignited a fire around his presidential campaign, speaking wistfully of a time in Washington when he could work civilly with conservatives, including arch-segregationist Sens. James O. Eastland of Mississippi and Herman Talmadge of Georgia.
“He never called me boy, he always called me son,” Biden, speaking at a fundraiser in New York said, referring to Eastland.
And while Talmadge was “mean,” he said, “Well guess what? At least there was some civility. We got things done. We didn’t agree on much of anything. We got things done. We got it finished. But today, you look at the other side and you’re the enemy. Not the opposition, the enemy. We don’t talk to each other anymore.”
The response from many Democrats was quick and angry, with Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey, a black rival for Democrats’ 2020 presidential nomination, and others accusing Biden of racial insensitivity. By Wednesday afternoon, the fight had become one of the most heated intra-party disputes of the 2020 Democratic primary campaign.
CNN or the New York Times or whoever thought up that last question cannot have possibly imagined that it would lead Biden where he ended up going with a stray remark, even if — perhaps only on an unconscious level — Biden’s old remark might have inspired them. But Biden was apparently still smarting from the rejection of his nostalgic yearnings by Booker, Harris, and others — and when two other candidates besides him chose John McCain as their answer to the question of what friendship of theirs would surprise people (and another chose Rand Paul), he quietly chortles something along the lines of how now lots of people were celebrating going across the aisle.
i don’t think that many people have noticed it yet, but I did — and the people who read the transcript surely will too.
Look: having been friends with John McCain — though he was an aggressive warmonger in the most bellicose tradition of people who really did think that the U.S. is always right — is not embarrassing. He stood fast against Trump, and his famous “thumbs-down” on a bullshit attempt to kill Obamacare has clearly stuck deeply into Trump’s craw.
But Eastland and Talmadge? The Democratic Senators from Mississippi and Florida who used their committee chairs to block civil rights reform and protect Jim Crow as best they could into the waning days of the Carter Administration? The Senators whom people criticize when they talk about the Democratic Party was the party of segregation, even though those two were among the last segregationist Democrats who hadn’t followed Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, and Trent Lott into the Republican Party.
NO. THAT IS NOT THE SAME THING THAT PEOPLE WHO WERE FRIENDS WITH JOHN MCCAIN WERE DOING, YOU DOPE!
Eventually — and probably not all that eventually, with highly ambitious Mayor Pete on the job — Black voters are going to confronted with how Joe Biden felt that the fact that some Senators were friends with John McCain somehow meant that it was okay that he himself had warm fuzzy feelings about the people who favored using German Shepherds and Water Cannons (and “extrajudicial killings”) against civil rights protesters.
(How is it even possible that Bernie Sanders, a man of the 21st century, is 448 days older than Joe Biden, a man deeply stuck in the midst of the 20th? It doesn’t seem possible.)
Yeah, I noticed that too last night and cringed. One other takeaway – at a certain age you don’t learn the correct lessons from your mistakes.
I’m Voting for Joe Biden!
Our 3rd “Black President” after L.B.J,Bill Clinton, Barack Obama picked Biden as his Running Mate, if there was an issue about his racial insensitivity it should have come out then.
Ok, but that’s not how gaffes work.
*What kind of racist are you? It goes like this: Are you a Republican Racist? Are you a Democratic Racist? Are you a Libertarian Racist? Are you an American Independent Racist? Are you a Peace and Freedom Racist? Are you a Southern Democrat Racist? Are you a Northern Republican Racist? Do you know any Racist? Was any member of your family a racist….EVER? Do you know who Ira Hayes or Jim Thorpe was? How about Geronimo? Black Hawk? Osceola? Can you name five Indian Tribes? Did all black folks come from Africa? Did all Japanese go into Prison Camps during WWII? How many German Americans were put into Prison camps in America during WWII? Do you know the last names of anyone called Ethel and Julius? Can you name to ship that was rejected port during WWII carrying European Jews? How many Black girls has Donald Trump ever dated? What is a Grand Dragon or Imperial Wizard? Who was Amos and Andy? Has a family member ever dated someone Hispanic, Asian, Native American or from India? Can you name the most famous Greek and Italian people in history? Where do Dutch people come from? Why are there two types of Belgium people? Should the English have another vote of BREXIT? Who was the worst English King or Queen in history? OK……figure it out……RACIST and FASCIST are everywhere and we didn’t even mention the Spanish Inquisition, Genghis Khan, Turkey, Japan, Russia, Hitler, Hirohito or Mussolini. Let’s just say if Joe Biden is a Racist and a Thief – what does that make the Trumpster?
My only Possible comeback to that is:
(Vern, can you embed?)
I don’t know who you’re talking to, Ron, but one can believe that Biden is sadly oblivious to the horrors of segregation that still live on today, and still believe that (1) that doesn’t make him a particularly bad guy, and (2) however bad it makes him, Trump is 666 times worse.
Do I need to answer your questions too? The question should be whether one can name ten tribes from Southern California alone.
“Why are there two types of Belgium people?”
I dunno. Let’s ask a Belgium.
*DZ – your inquisitive nature is astounding! Does your finger freeze when you think the word Google? Flemish and Walloons!
Fleming and Walloon | people | Britannica.com
Fleming and Walloon, members of the two predominant cultural and linguistic groups of modern Belgium. The Flemings, who constitute more than half of the Belgian population, speak Dutch (sometimes called Netherlandic), or Belgian Dutch (also called Flemish by English-speakers), and live mainly in the north and west
*The point is, that even in Belgium they have divisions and prejudices. This probably the reason why some Dutch guy came up with “Live and Let Live!”
*Yes, and Walloons speak French and probably because of some guy named Charlemagne?
No, it was because of a guy named Louis XIV.
No, the point is “Belgian” is the adjective that describes people from Belgium.
*So DZ tell us about your travels to Andorra? Or was that Liechtenstein and Luxembourg?
I always thought it was the SPROUTS, the PHLEGMS, and the MISERABLE FAT BELGIAN BASTARDS.
*MFBB’s? Hard to make that a racist remark. There are lots of folks with family members which could fit into that category …….Good one though – if you are Flemish or Walloon, Chairman Vern!
What. Have. You Done. To My Post?
I guess we ended up weekend-open-threading it. I blame the Winships, past masters of free association.
*Guilty as charged! But we love you Dr. D. and Chairman Vern!