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A Bernie Delegate’s Observations of the 2016 DNC Convention (with input from other Bernie delegates)
(I considered entitling this; An Observation of the 2106 DNC Convention … or, Welcome to the Neo-Feudalistic Society, but I didn’t….)
[Ed. Note: Carole Levers, a longtime activist and Democratic Party Board Member (who is speaking here only for herself), was a Bernie Sanders delegate from CD-39. She accepted an invitation from Orange Juice Blog to recount her experiences from last week’s convention without censorship. This provocative and unsettling piece is the result.]
This was my first national party convention. It was not exactly what I expected. What the public saw on TV bore little resemblance to what actually transpired on the floor of the convention. The following are some principal observations of the 2016 Convention by delegates for Senator Sanders — some mine, some related by others within our delegation. These observations have been divided into three categories; The Good, The Bad and The Very Ugly. Here goes!
The GOOD:
Not to be entirely negative: there were some excellent moments at the convention. Here are some highlights:
- Rules Committee: We had two Southern California Bernie delegates on the Rules Committee, Dr. Jose F. Moreno (Anaheim City Council Dist. 3 candidate) and Katrina Bergstrom (who helped organize confirmed Bernie delegates in the weeks leading up to the convention). One big takeaway from the Rules Committee was the limiting of the role of super delegates. Government and other elected officials can remain as unpledged delegates, but the balance of the super delegates votes must be cast proportionately according to the popular vote in their state’s primary or caucus. This effectively “reduces” the super delegates’ influence by 2/3. It’s a win, but not the complete elimination of super delegates. Thank you, Dr. Moreno and Katrina Bergstrom!
- Platform Committee: Some significant wins in the DNC platform included: Raising the Minimum wage to $15; expanded regulation of Wall St.; protecting and expanding Social Security (by raising the cap on taxation of higher income earners); immigration reform, including ending family detention; ending mass incarceration and private prisons. Thanks to our So. CA Bernie delegates Russell Greene (PDA leader and environmental activist), and Ben Kemper (dedicated conference call organizer for Bernie)! – Did we get everything we wanted or needed? No, but we did make significant gains!
- Bernie: We were all fortunate to see Bernie Sanders several times at the convention. Bernie spoke at our delegation breakfast, at a dedicated meeting for delegates at the Philadelphia Convention Center and, of course, at the convention itself. There was a very poignant and tear-filled moment during the roll call of votes when Bernie’s older brother Larry Sanders, who has been residing in England for a number of years, was interviewed and his vote choice recorded. This was part of the UK contingent of ex-pat voters. Larry spoke and reiterated that he had cast his vote for Bernie. His eyes were rimmed with tears and his voice shaky as he invoked the memory of his parents, who had died young. Bernie was also fighting back tears.
My personal thank you (and Marleen Gillespie’s also!) to Bernie Sanders for helping with the cost of our hotel room. His campaign covered almost ½ of the charge. Thank you for such kindness and generosity, Senator Sanders. It would have been very difficult for us to be able to participate without your assistance! Bernie’s concern for those on limited or fixed incomes speaks volumes for his character – and for his delegates’ admiration for him!
Other moments that were heartrending, included the speech by the parents of a Muslim soldier who was killed in Iraq while saving his fellow soldiers, and of course, the speech by Congresswoman Tammy Duckworth who lost her legs while serving in the Iraq. The Representative entered the stage walking on her two artificial limbs.
And a big personal thank you from me to Tom Steyer for his having provided California’s delegates daily with a very nice variety of finger foods and beverages (including wine and beer) totally free of charge. This saved us from the dreadful convention vendor food — and even more dreadful food costs for dinner!
A highlight for me was having had the opportunity to meet and work with the other Bernie Delegates in support of Bernie and the issues we have all strived to achieve! I will never forget the warmth and dedication of this wonderful group of people with whom we had the opportunity to truly “Feel the Bern”! Our organized actions were seen by millions of viewers and we are elated to have been able to send a strong message and reveal some truths!
Further input from fellow Southern California Bernie delegate, Alexis Edelstein supports this — and Alexis adds that we were able to make history in a non-violent way. Protesting our Secretary of State, Alex Padilla, with chants of “Count Our Votes” was another high point as was speaking with the masses of protesters in FDR Park! Alexis said that he had received a kiss from Maxine Waters!
But the biggest highlight of the day for me and for Marleen occurred when we held our “No TPP” signs, turned toward our right and held the signs higher so that Bernie could see them from his seat in the upper area of the section adjacent to ours. He saw us, stood, gave a big smile and mouthed “Thank you!” Jane who was sitting next to him clapped, smiled and gave us the thumbs up!
The BAD:
Hotel: Aside from the fact that the DNC did zero to “negotiate” decent room rates for our assigned hotels (a regular room with 2 queen beds was $726.50 per night – with taxes and a 5 night minimum), information regarding transportation questions…etc. from desk personnel and the concierge ranged from “limited” to non-existent. Such pertinent information such as the schedule and location for the convention buses that were to take us daily to the Wells Fargo Center seemed to be a “mystery” to all hotel personnel, as well as to the staff at the DNC Convention information table.
Internet services of $12.95/day were added in addition to the exorbitant room rate. My roomie Marleen and I put our collective “feet down” and pointed out that in addition to paying what amounted to be close to a quadrupling of the normal room rate….we WERE NOT going to pay this additional fee. They conceded and deducted this from our check out bill! I feel badly for those that did not also “negotiate” away this ridiculous fee.
DNC: OK … many of us paid the CDP/DNC breakfast rates for breakfast and the “bash” on Wed. evening at $200. These were the four most expensive breakfasts I have ever had. As for the bash — on Wednesday evening, we got back to the hotel from the convention via bus at 1:15 a.m. (the subway discontinues service at 12 midnight). My feet were so swollen – as I had been operating on an average of 3 hours of sleep a night – that I opted for heading for the room rather than the bash! (The closing time was 2 AM; and several people indicated that the food, etc. was nearly all gone). Does the event planner for the convention/hotels NOT know that you can actually negotiate rates for the services for food, etc.? I’d say: apparently not.
On Tuesday morning at breakfast, while picking up our credentials, we were asked to indicate our vote for the presidential nominee on a “voting” paper. The DNC was planning on using this paper vote and skipping the roll call vote during the convention. Bernie found out about this sleight-of -hand move and forced the DNC to honor their original promise of having a roll call vote at the convention. Bernie announced at our delegation breakfast that, after holding the DNC’s” feet to the fire,” the roll call vote would occur on Tuesday.
In the Convention Hall (Held at the Wells Fargo Center):
Brace yourselves: this is the LONG section!
When we arrived each day at the convention, we were not allowed to enter the convention floor until “X o’clock.” (Generally 30 minutes before gavel time, which could change daily.) The volunteer “guards” told us that no one was on the convention floor. We, in fact, could clearly hear that there were people inside — a whole lot of people inside. All four days we literally had to bull our way in, barging past the “guards” who chased after us. What we saw when we passed the curtains, of course, was that indeed there were a lot of people already in the hall — most all of whom we observed to be Hillary delegates.
We were not allowed to bring in “non-convention” provided signs (although we did anyhow; they were foldable paper signs!) What we observed were signs being taken from delegates (Bernie delegates). The only time Bernie signs were allowed was during Bernie’s speech on Monday night.
On Thursday, Marleen and I got to the floor early in order to save a block of seats for Bernie delegates … only to find that almost all the seats in the California section were already “reserved” for HRC delegates. More amazingly, many were being staked out by non-delegates. I put up reserved signs on a row of seats in which we had already seated some Bernie delegates. A Hillary delegate told us that those seats belonged to them … to which I replied “No, we have reserved these for our delegates.”
That same Hillary delegate began telling other Hillary delegates to go and occupy our seats. We had one Hillary delegate climb over a row of seats in order to enter our reserved seats. She announced that she was told that these were “Hillary” reserved seats to which I responded “No, I placed the reserved signs up … and I would be happy to show you the papers that I used to do so.” The Hillary delegate that told her to sit in our seats yelled that she had saved those seats. I spoke to the lady who had climbed in and told her that the other delegate was lying; then I turned and told the other Hillary delegate that she was lying. The lady who had climbed into our row said that she believed us and she left. This was a constant occurrence: we had to be diligent in saving seats that were vacated for food or restroom breaks.
We also observed that there were a large number of people on the floor that did not have “floor delegate” credentials: they had “guest” credentials. These people were being used to fill seats in order to deny seats for credentialed Bernie delegates. Their credentials were NOT checked! When we requested that the “guards” check certain people’s credentials, we were told “they are OK. they are credentialed.” And of course they were … but the credentials were GUEST rather than FLOOR credentials.
On Tuesday evening, the Bernie volunteers (guards) were all stripped of their credentials and told to leave. That left us on Wednesday and Thursday with 100% Hillary volunteers. They were trained to attempt to deny Bernie delegates access, to try and strip Bernie delegates of their signs and seats, and to threaten to have their credentials removed. One such bully threatened me with credential removal for complaining about an abusive Hillary delegate. “While in my seat earlier on Thursday, I was approached by a Hillary volunteer guard and told that my seat would need to be vacated for a photographer. (There had been no reserved sign or other indication that my seat was previously “taken.”) I didn’t budge. That same person went and told Dr. Bill Honigman the same story. I suppose that they expected him to tell me to leave my seat — but he didn’t, and I didn’t … and I wouldn’t have acquiesced, either!
From Wednesday onward, huge numbers of Hillary “fillers” were being bused in to fill the upper levels of the hall and to also assist in isolating Bernie Delegates to prevent them from being able to sit together in sizable groups. This was an attempt to greatly inhibit our ability to communicate and work together, as well as to be able cover for one another for restroom and dinner breaks. (Evidence of this was the huge number of buses that now filled the parking lot outside!) Since we were not allowed to bring in food to the convention floor, we either were forced to gobble down food while standing and hope that our seats would be saved or … just not eat. Many delegates were denied entry back into the convention floor after having left for a break. Some delegates were denied egress for restroom breaks, necessitating that they find another “door” that would permit them to leave to attend to urgent physiological needs.
On Thursday, we again refused to give in to the intimidation of the HRC-DNC guards and instead just pushed our way through to the hall. Upon entering, we found that the floor was already at least a third filled with Hillary delegates and “fillers”.
The Oregon/Washington Walk-Out
On Tuesday evening, after the roll call vote, the Oregon and Washington delegates became disgusted with all the corruption and obstructionism that had occurred and walked out of the Convention, leaving a multitude of empty seats. Does anyone recall seeing this many empty seats on TV broadcasts?
This “walk-out” was a direct result of the sleight-of-hand attempt to force a paper vote as a replacement for the floor roll call vote. On Tuesday, after Oregon’s and Washington’s delegates remained in absentia, within 45 minutes those seats and all of the rest of the third level of the convention quickly filled in with “paid” fillers. We had observed advertisements in downtown Philly from the DNC asking for people to serve as seat fillers — for pay. They were expected to hold and wave signs, chant for Hillary, and follow the lead of the Hillary delegates.
Alexis Edelstein points out that our own Gov. Jerry Brown ignored the rules and denied granting the motion made for a recount for the roll call vote. Furthermore, the superdelegates ignored their “obligations” to represent the votes of the people in their states. We were appalled that states that were WON by Bernie actually had MORE delegates allotted to Hillary. This was due to the “misplaced” votes of the superdelegates from those states. The will of the people was clearly ignored by the superdelegates.
Alexis reiterates that we were all treated as unwelcome guests by the DNC. All of us felt the sting of the Hillary delegates, DNC personnel, and Hillary volunteer guards telling us to “go home” and that “we did not belong there”.
Lastly, and sadly, Alexis observes that seeing Bernie “having to” support Hillary was a heartbreaking experience. We could all read the negative body language.
The Unity message from the Hillary campaign was supposed to be a kumbaya moment, but the Bernie delegates were left with an empty feeling. Nothing that was said would assure us that the progressive ideals that we all want to get instituted would be forthcoming. Hillary’s speech did not provide any indication or hint of the solutions that she “plans” to institute as President, such as how she would prevent the TPP from passing or how she would address “debt free” higher public education.
The pick of Tim Kaine as Vice-President added to the disbelief that Hillary is sincere in her opposition to TPP, Wall St. regulations, and perhaps even women’s reproductive health issues. Kaine was FOR the TPP and FOR further deregulation of Wall St. and banks up until a couple of days before the convention. His Roman Catholic background and previous stances on women’s reproductive health are also concerning: will he flip back? Who knows? This pick signals that Hillary lacks the intention to be a serious progressive reformer.
We were left wondering …what does she really believe?
The VERY UGLY:
OK … now for brass tacks.
Hotel:
The confirmed Bernie delegates were conducting organizing meetings in a room in back of the indoor pool location. The management learned of this and told us to leave. They returned about 10 minutes later and informed us that they were allowing us to use a couple of meeting rooms in the hotel for our meetings. They provided the room numbers and told us they would be ready in about 15-20 minutes. The Hillary campaign knew in advance what we were planning to chant, when we were planning to do these and the Hillary delegates were provided with counter chants. For example, when we chanted “No More Wars” … they began chanting “USA!, USA!” and other appropriate counter-chants. They were also provided with the “appropriate counter signs” to wave and hold and were told to hold multiple signs in order to block our protest signs from cameras. Because the Hilary campaign knew in advance EXACTLY and SPECIFICALLY what chants and actions we were planning to carry out for the next day, it appeared to us that our room had been bugged.
We were NOT given signs or the vertical signs (Obama, Hillary vertical bar/pole signs) and US flags. Many of the Hillary delegates held huge banners high in attempts to block views of us. Some of the Hillary delegates actually used their signs and the vertical pole signs to try and tear or destroy Bernie delegates paper signs. Marleen’s sign was swiped at numerous times by a Hillary delegate in front of her who was attempting to tear and destroy her NO TPP sign. It left me wondering whether they were actually Pro-TPP … but apparently not. Many of them were completely unaware of TPP and what it was!
That note this brings me to a segue. In my opinion, delegates to an important convention such as the DNC National Convention should be well informed about the current important issues. Sadly, it appears that in the case of Hillary delegates this was not the case. I can, in confidence, say that I sincerely doubt that any of the Bernie delegates were ignorant of the TPP and what it is!
Merchandise:
The ONLY merchandise sold at the convention and at the dedicated Hillary stores within the hotels were Hillary-endorsed items. There was ONE Bernie item in this offering: it was a T-shirt with a black and white caricature of Bernie with “rat-like” features (see picture). This was a page taken out of the Nazi playbook where Jews were depicted as being “rats”. How disgraceful.
Disorder on the floor:
Having fillers take up empty seats at the beginning of the convention gavel was bad enough but actually bullying people into allowing fillers to occupy Bernie delegate seats while the Berners were on restroom breaks or food breaks really took the cake.
More physical and verbal bullying continued with Hillary delegates and Hillary volunteer guards intimidating Bernie delegates.
One of the youngest delegates — a Bernie delegate — was 17 years old .. and was harassed and harangued by older Hillary delegates to the point of tears. This was an especially ugly scene.
Another of our young (22 year old) Bernie delegates was shoved and pushed by no other than John Hanna, a former DPOC Chair and CDP Rules Committee Chair. John is not a child — why was he doing this? Our delegate Shawnee Badger was peacefully protesting and had every right to be where she was. Since when is disenfranchising our young people a “good idea”? For so long the young have been disengaged — and now that Bernie has awakened a stirring in these young people let’s ENCOURAGE them, not shove and push and disenfranchise them. These young people ARE the FUTURE of our Party and we need to embrace this.
Fig. 3: John Hanna Shoving and Pushing our young Bernie delegate, Shawnee Badger
Fellow Bernie delegate Alexis Edelstein was kicked multiple times while protesting Gov. Brown and Brown’s ignoring of the floor motion to recount. I was harassed by five Hillary delegates who got in my face while I was sitting in my seat. They told me that we needed to quit chanting, go home, and that we did not belong there. They added that by chanting “No More Wars” we were disrespecting the veterans. I replied that none of us were disrespecting the veterans. We were honoring them by NOT WANTING ANY MORE DEAD VETERANS, killed in illegal wars for the profits of the wealthy. I reiterated that we were exercising our first amendment rights to which one replied that WE (Bernie delegates) had no rights. I was later shoved by a Hillary delegate into the metal frame of the seats. (see bruise photo, rotated to better fit the page). This picture was taken five days after the incident, when the bruise was already fading.
The SAD TAKE AWAY:
The theme of the convention was UNITY….
My Grandmother always told me that you can attract more butterflies with honey than with vinegar. Here, we were offered …vinegar.
If the Hillary campaign really wanted unity, they needed to reach out to us Bernie supporters. Instead we were left with the feeling that we were under threat and that we needed to join them or we would be electing Trump. We were not given reasons, progressive concessions or messages of inclusion or compromises that all of the millions of Bernie supporters hold so dear. The omnipresent “Stronger Together” and “With Her” signs highlighted the abrasive approach by her campaign. They served to heighten our conviction to convey our support for both Bernie Sanders and the issues in which he and we so strongly believe.
The result of this convention may be that many of the Bernie delegates will be voting third party, writing in Bernie (which is not counted as a vote), with a few even voting for Trump (!) or not voting at all. The new generation of voters that were brought in, activated, and given hope by Bernie have now been disenfranchised. This new generation of voters, our FUTURE, have become very disillusioned by the corruption of this election process from the primaries and caucuses all the way to and through the convention. Many will drop out; many will re-register as NPP, Green Party, or Libertarian and vote accordingly. This convention, the RNC convention, and the general election may well spawn the destruction of BOTH major political parties. Even worse, this convention may go down in history as being not only the one that produced the first female Presidential nominee … but also as the one that disenchanted an entire generation of voters.
Wow. Other than that, no words.
It was truly an experience of a lifetime…and very disheartening BeeBee….
Thank you, Carol for your hard work, and for taking the time to write out all the details so that we can all know how it went down. The Corporate Media is the unsung villain in all of this. I will share, but also cut and paste to subvert any dirty tricks, because we know they’re out there. I have never been so sickened.
I went to Philly to protest with the Anti-TPP contingent in the downtown march of 10,000 people. I would be surprised if the media covered any of it; it was a deserted downtown stretch, far away from the action on a Sunday; reminded me of the Republican Convention in NYC when protesters were allowed to protest – in pens along the river.The cynicism of the convention being at the Wells Fargo Center, a no man’s land where access was only by car (was there even parking?), told me everything I needed to know about the fix being in.
I am heartbroken at what this means for the country, at this being the first political convention for so many young people whose future – and that of the planet – lies in the balance. The 2-Party system is over; that has to be a good thing. Meanwhile, we will do what we can as Berners for the future. Our work has just begun. Onward!
Melodies…my intrepid activist friend….the revolution is just beginning. Thanks to Bernie for awakening a whole generation of young people. I wish I had known that you were in Philly!
Onward is right!
Buh buh buh bullshit. Feel the Bern.
We are still Feelin’ the Bern!
Mt sister was there filming for a documentary with the Sisters of st Joseph. I was pretty taken back by watching John hannah participate in this in the worst kind of way.
Ditto Paul!
We were protesting outside and some of the delegates who walked out came over to FDR park and spoke with us. They were very impressive people! I was SHOCKED at what two of the delegates confirmed…..
They said that when they walked out of the convention, they looked up and noticed SWAT snipers on the roof with their cross hairs aimed at a couple of the delegates heads!! She was visibly shaking and very upset!
Did you hear about this? I am FLOORED. It’s time for a full on revolution. Shoes in the streets peeps. :/
Wow!…we didn’t witness that, but with the high profile politicos there…it would not surprise me!
Thanks! Accurately encapsulates the 4 days of harassment by the DNC & Clintonites.
The revolution continues!
We were treated much better, no comparison, by the police on the other side of the DNC Iron Curtain. Even during our march on Sunday, we were hosed down by the police, but not how you think. They had the fire hydrants open with sprinklers to cool us down, which turned out to be life savers. I have left the party after 42 years a registered Democratic voter. No longer!
Ken…glad that the outside world was good to you guys…and thank you for being there! The political revolution continues!
Thank you for writing this. I was in Philly during the convention, though I was on the outside lending my voice in support of Bernie and his delegates. I heard many of these same complaints from the other delegates I spoke to throughout the week. I feel that you’ve accurately portrayed what happened in the convention. It’s important that those who are still Democrats understand what their party has become. I left the party as I left Philly. I don’t want to be affiliated with an organization which has so mistreated half of their base.
Thank you for supporting the political revolution Jason…it continues!
Amazingly accurate. This covers everything I also experienced as a delegate! It is indeed not isolated. Thank you.
Hillacrats are today’s Sturmabteilung
Thanks for the inside info, Carole. The determined claims of serious activists, including Bernie and Jane, notwithstanding, maintenance and expansion of the movement seems (to me, at least) to be a formidable, daunting challenge.
Dave….no the quest will continue…and it will be strengthened by our experience and determination. We will be helped by the formation of recent organizations that will carry on the political revolution!
Thanks for attending the convention and being a strong advocate for democracy. I can only imagine what a horrible and trying week it must have been. Your report is chilling and disturbing although not surprising.
The DNC and HRC is a formidable sham….the phony facade of today’s oligarchy! The will of the people is secondary to the will of corporate greed, power and money!
The Bernie revolution can, and must, continue!
It will….It will!
Very nice and amusing. Loving this crying from Bernie rats.
I cry because of your ignorance. That so many would usurp the Bill of Rights, because they don’t know what they are. That they vote to turn the USA into third world status.
It is called reporting, not crying!
Anti-semitic jacka*s.
hcarthagen: I am reading these comments in 2021, after 4 years of Trump. Your comment about Bernie rats is the kind of name-calling that Trump made popular. Congrats that you preceded him in your elegance!
Anybody who thinks there’s any real difference between the statist Republicans and the statist Democrats has got his head in the sand.
The Clinton Mob has always been, first and foremost, about influence and power; later when they got into the White House they looked around and realized all the people they were making really rich and they wanted that, too.
Little family from Little Rock makes good.
Little family from Little Rock are about to be indicted for RICO via the Clinton Foundation. There is a huge scandal waiting to happen. Count on it.
The 1990’s called, they want you to come home.
Speaking of the ’90s, that pic on the Kim Jong Clinton poster is even older than Lorri Galloway’s campaign mugshot.
Please elaborate.
David –
If you are responding to Angry Green, search YouTube for “Charles Ortel + Clinton Foundation”. (I may have posted some of these links on earlier WOTs. -?) If responding re: ‘1990’s’, I got nothing.
Nothing was mentioned about the alledged harasment of Jane or the meeting of thugs with Bernie in his hotel room that left him with a gash just below the right eye. This was alledged to happen the night before he “endorsed” HRC. We need confirmation of these horrors. They would explain why he backed her.
Doris, Bernie actually endorsed Hillary, if you recall, a WEEK before the convention. We did not see or hear of any such activities against Jane or Bernie at the convention…nor did we see the eye injury to which you refer.
Oh, for God’s sake: NOAM CHOMSKY hs endorsed Hillary as a lesser evil than Trump who should be supported by at least those in swing states. We don’t need made-up stories of Bernie being mugged to explain his endorsement. “It will make him more effective in the Senate than otherwise” is the only explantion we need.
A friend from East LA who attended the convention had the same experience. He re-posted this video confirming what you’ve reported.
https://www.facebook.com/edenmcfadden9/videos/vb.545697076/10153603623782077/?type=2&theater
It was not an “honest” convention Richard..as witnessed by your friend and the rest of us!
Another interesting testimony:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_sanders_berners_kept_up_the_heat_20160802
Thank you for this eye opening piece. Watching the DNC it seemed over planned and too well orchestrated. The audience seemed fake. Now it all makes sense.
Just for comparison, y’all can watch the livestream of the Green nominating convention here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/GreenPartyVideos/live
I’m appalled. I had no idea such things could happen at a political convention. Where is Sanders’ outrage at this? (I don’t call him Bernie anymore, and it brings tears to my eyes every time I call him Sanders.) We were so close, and we won’t ever be so close again in my lifetime.
We will never really know for certain exactly what happened…but we can all wonder what they did or said to Bernie…..it must have been ..bad.
This is so sad. Thank you for trying and sharing your story.
Welcome to the ‘party’, my friends. The above writing is exactly why Trump took over the Republican party. After having McCain and Romney shoved down our throats in 2008 and 2012, lied to repeatedly and treated with contempt by the GOPers (as we of the base call the Establishment Republicans) we revolted in 2016. Trump is our middle finger to the Republican Establishment. Yes, we know he is a terribly flawed candidate. Yes, some of the things he says gives even us pause. We don’t care. The only thing we care about is watching the Republican party be burned to the ground and all of its lying sycophants in the media (yes, that is you Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin and Hewitt) exposed for the frauds they are. Seems it will be the Democrats’ turn in 2020. The Republican base this year followed the old adage: “Don’t get mad, get even.” Your turn.
BTW, Read Kevin DuJan’s take on the DNC over at Hillbuzz. He has a day by day breakdown of speakers and events. Written from the perspective of a former Hillary supporter.
I am gratified to learn that the paranoid Left has OC representation. Self- marginalizing wing nuts try to play with the realists, wing-nuts lose. Sad but predictable. Glad Zenger is so in touch with this crew, fine lot they are.
THAT’S what you glean from this story? That Bernie supporters just weren’t up to the task?
Slowly defrosting baggies of toddler feces planted everywhere in the hall would have made more of an impact, if you’re judging by who could “play the game” better. But it doesn’t look like the dirty tricks were on our side. Your advice is to really “go for it” next time? I’m sure that you’d have greatly respected that.
JFK said “those who make peaceful resistance impossible make violent revolution inevitable,” assbite. Thanks for helping to unify the party.
I glean the knowledge that cynics beat idealists every time and I proclaim this without resorting to vulgarity. My alias is Blake’s God of Reason. I am an employee of an organization that frowns on publicity. I supported Bernie till he lost control of his followers and then went negative on the most qualified candidate. He will be a footnote, like Debs, but his followers more resemble the Know-Nothings.
Know Nothings? That’s wrong. The Know Nothings were nativists and not much else.
Bernie’s folk much more resemble the idealistic New York Democrats of the 1840s known as the Barnburners, while the Clinton gang, in nice contrast, surely resemble the “dough-faced” Hunkers led by William Marcy.
Nice bit of history, thanks. I was caricaturing the Berners for their closed ranks and refusal to admit any knowledge of Hillary’s real achievements. The Barney folk I know are mostly college Lefties and Green remnants.
Yeah, “closed ranks.” Closed enough to get 46% of the pledged delegates.
Given that you want Hillary to win (as do I, given the sole likely alternative — unless he drops out), I have no idea why you want to bait me or any other supporter of Hillary into a brutally frank debate over “Hillary’s real achievements.” Do you? Or, a prior question to that: do you understand that that’s what you’re doing?
Meanwhile, given that Carole has nicely detailed some of “Hillary’s real achievements” last month, perhaps you’d like to try to defend them.
Hillary has achieved being the first woman presidential candidate. And she did it by sticking through the humiliation of a publicly philandering husband who happened to be her ticket to power.
I’m not sure what sort of role model that is for women, however.
Urizen (well at least I’m not so paranoid that I don’t use my real name!). I reported accurately what I experienced..along with the experiences of others at the convention. These are happenings that were not shown by the professional orchestration of the DNC and with the coopetation of the MSM. None of us are paranoid (if we were we likely would not have attended). Too bad you weren’t there..you could have been one of the ones that participated in the kumbaya…we chose not to.
What in the Bejeezus are you talking about?
Urizen
In the mythology of William Blake, Urizen is the embodiment of conventional reason and law. He is usually depicted as a bearded old man; he sometimes bears architect’s tools, to create and constrain the universe; or nets, with which he ensnares people in webs of law and conventional society.Wikipedia
Carole, Your description of your adventures in Philadelphia was interesting, but a bit surprising. If you are a long time political activist, you have to know that the process is dirty and always has been. The monetary stakes are very high and saving the world and souls is not on the agenda. Also, Tim Kaine is only nominally a Roman Catholic. He is no more a faithful Catholic than are Joe Biden, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and many others. All of them support abortion and abortion is a sin. Finally, Philadelphia is a large, expensive city. Hotels and meals are expensive. Taxis do run 24 hours a day, so you could have returned to your hotel sooner. It is not the job of the concierge to provide DNC convention attendees with information. My suggestion to you is that you register your complaints with your party. I can’t help you with that; I am a Republican. Good luck to you….
KM, because of the strict Secret Service security precautions, taxis were not allowed at the venue. The last day, Thursday was by far the worst since multitudes of “fillers” were brought in to the convention (adding to the already huge numbers of buses that were serving the credentialed floor delegates). It is my understanding that Mr. Kaine served as a missionary in Honduras for the Catholic services. Most “regular” church members don’t dedicate this much time or service to their religion if they are not serious church members and believers. While I don’t pretend to know what is in his heart, I do know that previously he had been “not so good” on women’s reproductive health matters. There is always an element of “concern” that I have as to his current…and continuing advocacy of women’s reproductive health rights.
And yes, I am well aware that politics is a “dirty” arena, but to actually see and hear the Hillary camp shouting…what amounts to right wing chants of “USA, USA, USA” while we were chanting “NO MORE WARS”, was a bit disturbing. I suppose that this may be a result of the Democratic Party moving further right, but it is disheartening to see a once vibrant party of the middle class and underclass now serving as champions for the banks and corporations. I love Eisenhower’s warning to us about the military-industrial complex….it is what we are witnessing today….
Thank you for your response, Carole. I really am sorry that you didn’t have a better experience at the convention. It is terribly disillusioning, especially for the young people who are just starting their political involvement. My generation was pretty active in politics at a young age, but I don’t think we ever saw the magnitude of the machine that denied Bernie a chance. By the way, I remember watching Ike warn us of the military-industrial complex.
I attended the activities around the convention during the last 2 days as an activist and observer.
I encountered many people who experienced similar harassment and unethical tactics and could back up exactly what Carole has written.
It’s a shame that all this was allowed to take place in the historic “City of Brotherly Love” under the auspices of a party that is supposed to represent the interests of the majority of the American middle class (if not most of the 99%).
If Bobby Kennedy, Eugene McCarthy, Shirley Chisholm and other legendary Democrats of yesteryear were alive today, imagine how saddened they would be to see the divide that has happened in our party as a result of corporate and Wall Street influence.
The Party of FDR and John F. Kennedy is almost a thing of the past.
Sadly.
The treatment of Bernie Delegates was deplorable. From the opening prayer where they asked God to bless president Hillary Clinton (With no mention of Bernie Sanders0 before th vote was even taken. I saw the underhanded and destable things that happened as a delegate, the short time I was there. We were not allowed to bring in Placcards, for Bernie, but they had enough HRC ones on hand.
The thing that I thought that should have been covered more is that 40% of the delegates walked out and actors were hired to fill their spots. I was on a hunger strike for Bernie Sanders and between the heat and not eating for 8 days prior and my blood pressure going through the rough at the blatant unfair treatment of Bernie Sanders. I was escorted out by paramedics.
I even after all of this I thought I might support the revolution by putting an X next to HRC’s name on the allet this fall. I told HRC people they needed to hold her accountable, The first things HRC did was smack Bernie supporters in the face by endorsing Debbie Wassermen Shultz. I will be voting for Jill Stien this fall, unless Bernie should come back in the event HRC is sent to prison for one of the laws she has broken, or if her Karma comes back to kick her.
Carole,
Thank you for writing this, given the harassment I am certain it will bring you, on top of your already bad experience. I am so far on the other side of the political debate that we would have little in common when selecting Presidents, but I want to express my HORROR and heartbreak that my fellow AMERICANS were treated this way while attempting to exercise the most basic of our rights as Americans. The beauty of this country is our right (and our OBLIGATION) to disagree and bring another perspective to the debate, because that is how we remain accountable and that is how we become better for the exchange of information. Allowing the Bernie delegates to express themselves, and allowing Bernie a greater voice in the proceedings (one he rightfully EARNED within his own party) would have tempered some of the Hillary extremism that many of us fear from her. As a Republican I can get behind that even if I can’t get behind Bernie. Instead, the party gamed the system and shut out anyone not in lock step. Instead of engaging all and winning over the other side (even in small part) they simply trampled your rights. and that is the most UN AMERICAN thing I have heard of, and as an American i am so sorry to hear your own party did this to you. It is ironic (and frankly sick) that they chanted USA while shoving others out of their place as delegates to the bedrock of the electoral process.
We see this type of thuggery even at the local level. We increasingly see the professional “seat fillers” taking over City Council meetings, this behavior has become the “new normal” and we need to figure out ways to counter that. Carole that was awesome of you to stand your ground and refuse to give up your seat (sorry you were bruised in the process.)
Winning by cheating is not winning. But it has become acceptable to those in power to do whatever it takes to ensure their voices are the only ones that count, and will shout down or take by force those with opposing views that get in their way. When we show up to meetings in dissent, we are no longer constituents to be heard, but obstacles they must endure until they can get around to voting for what they had predetermined long before they entered the room.
Unlike Richard Frei and his post above, I don’t see Trump as the answer to the power structure. Giving nearly unlimited power to someone with a track record of abusing those beneath him is not the recipe for overturning an abusive power system. But we work with what we have, and if these are the “leaders” we must choose from, well I need to vote against a candidate as much as I need to vote “for” one. The “lesser of two evils” is NOT supposed to be a Presidential ballot.
We need BOTH SIDES to agree this is WRONG and we need to have a frank discussion on how to overcome this kind of thuggery and he gaming of the system while we still have rights left to exercise. The public process is already nothing but Kabuki theater to pretend a public meeting was held, time to take back the MEANING and SUBSTANCE of citizen participation.
HOW DO WE DO THAT?
I wanted to see an image of the Bernie Sanders tee shirt that was being sold at the Philadelphia convention, and months after the fact I stumbled on this blog post. It brought back all the memories of the shoddy treatment and injustice that the Bernie delegates suffered at the hands of the HRC supporters.
Since the convention, so much more has been exposed about the dirty dealings her campaign engaged in. I am by no means a Trump supporter but have derived a huge amount of satisfaction from the fact that in spite of all the rigging that occurred, she still lost the election.
How bad was Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate? So bad that she couldn’t even beat a former reality show huckster with absolutely no political experience.