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UPDATE: Another side to the story that seems believable – in any case it doesn’t seem to be the owner of the cigar place, “La Habana Cigars,” that beat up the cabbie, and the Cabbie may have had it coming: http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/03/muslim_taxi_cab_driver_marine.php
Press release from our good friends at CAIR:
CAIR-LA Asks DOJ to Probe Assault on Muslim Cabbie as Hate Crime
Religious, ethnic slurs allegedly used during assault in Newport Beach
(ANAHEIM, CA, 3/28/11) — The Greater Los Angeles Area office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-LA) today called on the Department of Justice to investigate as a hate crime an incident in which a Southern California Muslim taxi driver was assaulted after being asked about his religion.
CAIR-LA said the Muslim driver was allegedly assaulted when he arrived at a Newport Beach cigar lounge on March 19 in response to a call for a taxi. The alleged victim reports that he was confronted by the owner of the facility when he inquired if anyone had requested a taxi. The man who identified himself as the owner allegedly told the victim, “I am a Marine officer, f**k you.”
Shortly after the verbal confrontation, a woman came out of the cigar lounge and confirmed that she had requested the cab. The victim stepped out of the cab to talk to the woman. According to the victim, three men then came out of the facility and confronted him, pushing him repeatedly and asked questions such as “What’s your religion?” “Where are you from?” and “We’re going to f**k you up like we f**ked up your country.”
The alleged assailants reportedly followed the victim to his taxi when he returned to push the vehicle’s emergency response button, which failed. Once inside his taxi, the victim had begun to call 911 when one the attackers allegedly sat in the passenger seat behind him, placed him in a headlock and proceeded to punch him. The other two men and the owner also allegedly began punching the victim. After a few minutes, the lounge owner reportedly said, “Stop, we’ve f**ked him enough.”
The victim sought medical treatment for facial and head injuries. Since the incident, he has missed work and reports that he is afraid to go to work.
CAIR-LA has contacted the DOJ to ensure the prompt investigation of the alleged assault as a hate crime. CAIR-LA also reported the incident as a hate crime to the Orange County Human Relations Commission and the Newport Beach Police Department, and has requested assistance for the victim from the Orange County Victims’ Assistance Program.
“We ask the Department of Justice and local law enforcement to promptly investigate this disturbing incident as a hate crime and bring appropriate charges against the perpetrators,” said CAIR-LA Civil Rights Manager Affad Shaikh.
Last August, a New York taxi driver was stabbed after being asked if he was a Muslim. The perpetrator was charged with attempted murder as a hate crime, aggravated harassment and criminal possession of a weapon.
CAIR: NY Cabbie Stabbed After Asked ‘Are You Muslim?’
Also earlier this month, a Muslim woman after shopping for groceries in Anaheim found a portion of the Muslim holy book, the Quran, desecrated and taped to her vehicle and her car keyed on either side.
SEE: CAIR-LA Seeks Hate Crime Charges for Vandalism with Desecrated Quran
CAIR is America’s largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization. Its mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.
Vern again. Why did we put Ed Royce’s picture on this post? Because the EASY thing is to blame stuff like this on crazy-ass valkyries like Deb Pauly (especially with this asshole claiming to be a Marine) – but I have taken it MUCH TOO EASY on the two Congressmen who were there at that Yorba Linda hate rally – and little blue-eyed Ed Royce gave the Congressional imprimatur … that the time for tolerance and multiculturalism has gone. Heck of a job, Ed!
Violence against anyone because of their religion, race, ethnicity, etc. is wrong. So is supporting individuals who advocate hate. I’m still waiting for CAIR (and ICANA) to explain why they invited those two terrorist sympathizers to the talk. Vern is quick to condemn the protestors, but still is soft-pedaling the presence of the two speakers. Hate goes both ways you know.
What happened to the cabbie in Newport and the lady in Anaheim looks directly or indirectly related to the hate rally in Villa Park, AGAINST MUSLIMS IN GENERAL.
#2, I haven’t soft-pedaled Malik-Ali, and I’m still pursuing ICNA for an explanation of his involvement, but what sort of violence is HE likely to produce in OC?
And #3, why do you people keep saying “TWO terrorist sympathizers?” What is your damn brief against the Imam? Nothing, right? So all YOU have is the crazy Malik-Ali.
Back to essentials: The rabble-rousing of Royce, Miller and Pauly is starting to have real bloody consequences. We were not just making a tempest in a teapot here.
Guys guys guys… listen…..i just talked to the cigar lounge owner…I personally know him because I’ve been to his cigar lounge a few times….Their are some questions here I don’t think its what we think..I just got off the phone with him and here’s his story: His name is Edgar Uria his number is 323-828-2310. I had a long conversation with him and he said he had nothing to do with this beating he was actually trying to help the person who got beat down…His partner in the store is a syrian MUSLIM and he told me he has a wife and kids and would never do something like this in front of his own store…he can’t believe the blasphemy thats going on with his name…so far it looks like We need to clear his name here….The media looks like their only looking at one side. Although we are muslim and should protect our own we still have to ensure we are getting the right information…NOT EVERY MUSLIM IS PERFECT…
Here’s the story: The cab driver (muslim guy) got mad another cab driver took his fare. So the muslim cab driver started calling him a mexican wetback…3 drunk guys who came out of a bar (not the cigar bar) happened to be mexican and heard that…Then the muslim cab driver started intimidating them and cussing them out and they both started in the altercation….He said he was trying to help this muslim guy and thats why the cops didnt do anything to him….Think about it if he really did do it wouldn’t he be in jail…The cops said he had no evidence on his hands or anything that he was involved…he begged me to help him and said he was only trying to help and can’t believe this is happening… He said please have anyone call me so i can clear my name…Call him for yourself people…Salams and Justice for all inshalla (god willing).
Wait, you mean we shouldn’t take CAIR at their word about what happened? There are always two sides of the story. I prefer to wait until the investigation is done and all the facts are out, but I know that’s not the “ready, fire, aim” approach of some on here.
I guess being an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing who favors bringing sharia law to the US isn’t enough for you Vern. I’ll have to settle for my ONE terrorist sympathizer that CAIR and ICANA thought well enough of to bring as one of their featured speakers at a fundrasier. Poor me.
And where’s your proof that the attack was in any way related to the rally? I thought so.
“favors bringing sharia law to the US”
This is such an irrelevant right-wing talking point. Our Constitution in the First Amendment prohibits this from taking place. The amendment prohibits the making of any law “respecting an establishment of religion”.
So whether they want to bring sharia law to America or not, by law they cannot impose that upon the nation. Stop with the intellectual dishonesty and fear tactics already.
Intellectual dishonesty is precisely what you are engaging in. I never suggested that he actually could bring sharia law to the United States. It is an example of his extremist views that was in direct response to Vern’s question about why I was including the imam in my description of extremists that CAIR and ICNA invited to speak at their fundraiser. Your weak post doesn’t do anything to change that.
Newbie,
If he can’t actually bring sharia law to the United States then why do you and the other Islamophobes constantly play the “sharia law” card? It is a non-issue and yet you and those like you constantly play on the fears of the ignorant that if Muslims are allowed to build mosques and practice their faith in our communities that they will somehow impose sharia law on all of us.
More scare tactics and dishonesty.
You’re obviously one of those lefties who disingenuously links every conservative together as Islamaphobic, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, and every other “phobic” I forgot to mention. You also haven’t read any of my prior posts because this is the first time (to my recollection) I’ve ever mentioned sharia law on here. You also ignore my prior post which stated that I never said or even implied that sharia law will ever be imposed on US citizens. Of course you ignore it because you have no response but to hurl more lies in my direction (“those like you”). You have no idea who I am or what I stand for. However, your posts reveal a lot about you; namely that you are intellectually dishonest (to use a term of yours – see I actually read your posts), lazy and sloppy in your reasoning, and prefer ad hominem attacks to real debate. That’s ok with me though because my points are only reinforced by your failure as a poster and a thinker.
Newbie,
If he can’t impose sharia law on Americans then why would you bring that up at all other than to fan the fire and play on the fears of others?
You said he “favors bringing sharia law to the US”. If he can’t impose it upon us who cares what he wants to bring to the US.
What about the right wingers that want to impose “Biblical law” upon us and use the Bible to defend bigoted law and propositions such as Prop 8? Do you oppose them as well.
Mr. Mill,
This will be my last post to you on this subject as the dense nature of your logic and lack of critical thinking are tiring me. As I indicated above (had you actually read my post rather than simply forming your own fallacious ideas of what I said) you would have noticed that Vern posted a comment asking what I had against the imam attending the CAIR/ICNA fundraiser that evening. In response, I provided a statement that the imam was an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and that he has advocated sharia law in the United States. I gave these examples to show Vern why I included the imam as an extremist along with the other speaker that night (who only the truly myopic would say was not an extremist). I never indicated that it was possible that it would happen or that I personally think it will ever happen (I do not). Since you have now twice refused to address the context of my post, I can only conclude that you never will. So, I am finished with your circular and repetitive comments that add nothing to the debate on here. I also will not address your non sequitor comment below since you don’t warrant any more of my time or energy.
Newbie,
You played the sharia law card to fan the flames of fear. If the Imam’s belief in sharia law makes him an extremist then I can only summise that those who believe in Biblical law are extremists as well.
An “unidicted co-conspirator”? That proves what?
You simply used this argument to paint the Imam as a “bogeyman” that we should all fear.
You should be far more afraid of elected officials like Pauly and the others like Royce and Miller that give credence to her by appearing at hate ralies such as the one in Yorba Linda.
I don’t think Royce, Miller and Pauly have nearly as much to do with the unwanted violence as do Osama Bin Laden, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Ayman al-Zawahiri.
Man, how easy it would be to bait the LOC Girls into a Beth Krom/Taxi fare dodging/Islam Bashing/Jew loving dialouge, but thats so 2010.
And Vern, Miller, Royce and Pauly did get off easy. Two sitting US CONGRESSMEN attending an event like that? Come on.
My only hope is that as a Democrat, people like Junior keep bringing it up, illustrating how bigoted and sophmoric the OCGOP is. then it makes the election about REAL issues and not social ones.
As for Geoff’s last comment, Osama Bin Laden has about as much to do with the Yorba Linda thing as Jim Morrison!
NEWBIE said:
“Wait, you mean we shouldn’t take CAIR at their word about what happened? There are always two sides of the story. I prefer to wait until the investigation is done and all the facts are out, but I know that’s not the “ready, fire, aim” approach of some on here.”
It appears that you were right NEWBIE. That cabbie was apparently an asshole who was asking to get his ass kicked: http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/03/muslim_taxi_cab_driver_marine.php
CAIR lied AGAIN!
“That cabbie was apparently an asshole who was asking to get his ass kicked”
So “junior” aka Mike Tardif condones violence as a means to settle disputes? He supports the beating of someone just because of something said?
He is a fine example of the folks that continually attack the council majority in Santa Ana.
THis is the same Sean Mill who threatened to “break Matt Cunningham’d f_cking neck”?
Isn’t Sean always itching for a fistfight? What a bozo
Vern,
I give credit to you for printing the update and giving all sides of the story, as well as indicating that the owner’s story is at least plausible. However, I am disappointed in you that you would pull the trigger so quickly on a story based solely on a CAIR press release. Whatever you feel about CAIR, they can hardly be called impartial in this case. Your carelessness in reporting without even the basic facts has obviously stoked passions on here unnecessarily. I have already been called an Islamaphobe by one commenter with absolutely no evidence simply because I was responding to one of your comments. I believe you posted this story so quickly because of what happened in Yorba Linda and you were desperately trying to link that event to the terrible attack on the cabbie. Well, it may turn out that the attack had nothing to do with the cabbie being a Muslim. You like to chide the right for stoking passions, I hope you take a look in the mirror the next time someting like this comes up and apply the same principles to yourself and your blog.
By the way, there’s a story at the Register that shows how confusing things are currently in the case:
http://www.ocregister.com/news/police-294112-driver-burdette.html
SM,
That is not what I said asshole.
I see you are still in the habit of twisting people’s words … prick.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prick
junior,
Mr. Mill is either incredibly dense (that’s a kind word), or he only exists on here to try to get under your skin. In either event, he is not worth your time or effort so don’t fall for it. We’ve made our points, he refuses to address them in an honest and non-idiotic manner, so I’m moving on to more important things.
roger that Newbie …
Say, you’ve been around awhile – will you be changing your blog name?
But you can’t be “been around awhile” we’ve already got one of them.
junior aka Mike Tardif,
I see you are a class act as always.
I quoted you verbatim. Are you saying that someone has stolen your nom de plume and posted under it? If that’s the case you better talk to your pals at the LibOC because that’s standard operating procedure for those fellas.
Stay classy Mike and keep spewing that Islamophobia. It suits you well.
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Sean H. Mill
Posted May 12, 2010 at 11:05 PM
This guy is being backed by the Agran cabal and that can’t be good. I guess they decided to pass on “Jihad Todd” Gallinger this time around. What a shock!
I quoted you verbatim Sean. Hypocrite.
My disdain for legal hack Todd Gallinger is just that, disdain for Todd Gallinger. That is by no means an attack on Islam or Muslims as a whole.
Now get back to the LibOC sock puppet.
Thank you sean for admitting that your disdain for Todd Gallinger has caused you to make offensive Islamic statements. Did you or did you not call Todd a name based on his Islamic beliefs? Not for being a legal hack. Stupid hypocrit.
The LiberalOC sock puppets are multiplying…When you post using your real name I might consider responding to you. Such a brave little sock puppet you are.
I am Sock Puppet. Hear me troll.