For thousands of years, women from different cultures all over the globe have
worn headscarves for social, religious, and practical purposes.
Earlier this week, National Public Radio fired longtime news analyst Juan Williams after appearing on Fox Television and telling Bill O’Reilly that he gets “nervous” when he sees “people who are in Muslim garb” boarding the same airplanes he is on.
A blog recently surfaced on the internet entitled, “Pictures of Muslims Wearing Things“, refuting Williams’ notion that there is “such a thing as ‘Muslim garb’ or a Muslim look” by posting photos of prominent Muslims wearing apparel that everybody dresses in.
To further demonstrate how ridiculous Williams’ fears are, I compiled a list of ten women both past and present who are wearing what many people believe to be “Muslim garb”. I wonder how uncomfortable he would feel sitting next to these women on an airplane?
The late Audrey Hepburn: actress and humanitarian.
Her Royal Majesty Queen Elizabeth II: Head of State of the UK.
The late Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis: wife of Democratic President John F. Kennedy.
Lady Gaga: recording artist.
The late Grace Kelly: actress and Princess of Monaco.
Lindsay Lohan: actress, recording artist, and model.
Courtney Love: actress, recording artist, and wife of the late Kurt Cobain.
Sojourner Truth: 19th century African-American abolitionist and women’s rights advocate.
Devout Catholic woman: wearing a traditional chapel veil.
The Virgin Mary: mother of Jesus Christ, founder of the Christian religion.
Mr. blogger you must have some kind of hearing problem or vision problem.Juan williams said that his feelings were that way after SEPTEMBER 11Th.!!!!!!!. What about Obama when he said that grow up with a white gradmother that used to think when a black man was close to her or aproaching her space she felt like the black man was ready to atack or robber her! and the same Obama calling the Police department of MS stupid!. Another instance of this situation after Sept. 11Th. was when police found a “woman” wearing the burka and long rope, being a MAN pretending to be a arabic female. We need to relize that history related to terrorism and security had changed after Sept. 11Th. The 70% of americans have the same opinion as Mr. Juan Williams.
You missed the point of this message.
Many women wear headscarves and think nothing of it.
But when people see Muslim women wearing the same thing, they make a fuss about it.
Would Juan Williams feel nervous about non-Muslim women wearing headscarves?
I think not.
Point of clarification:
I’ve been contacted by some people who apparently are a bit confused at what I’m trying to say in this blog posting.
So I will explain it
Juan Williams says he is afraid of people boarding airplanes wearing “Muslim garb”. The ten prominent women depicted above are wearing headscarves that look remarkably similar to hijabs that some Muslim women wear. So would Williams be “nervous” to sit next to these women on an airplane?
My underlying point is this: there is no “Muslim garb”. Women in Western society also wear headscarves for social, practical, and religious purposes like Muslim women do. Hence, shouldn’t Williams be afraid of these women because they too are wearing headscarves?
Aren’t his fears based on irrational stereotypes, racial profiling, and prejudice?
No, they don’t!!! And most of the women you show is from the 40’s!
And Juan Williams did not mention women! Muslim women or even Middle Eastern women are not to be ruled out as a potential muslim terrorist but the profile of a muslim terrorist is a middle eastern man between 20-40. Women tend to be more empathic than men so less likely to kill innocent’s!
So I think Juan should have just said Middle Eastern males make him nervous on planes and he is not alone!
> No, they don’t!!! And most of the women you show is from the 40′s!
So what? They are all wearing headscarves. Isn’t that “Muslim garb” in your convoluted world view?
And if the “Virgin Mary” were alive today, wouldn’t she be mistaken for one of them “Middle Easterners” by her apparel?
Wait a minute … she was born in Palestine, wasn’t she? 🙂 🙂 🙂
> And Juan Williams did not mention women! Muslim women or
> even Middle Eastern women are not to be ruled out as a
> potential muslim terrorist but the profile of a muslim terrorist
> is a middle eastern man between 20-40. Women tend to be
> more empathic than men so less likely to kill innocent’s!
In reality, your typical terrorist happens to be middle-aged white male with a law degree or military experience.
Most wear suits.
Many of them infest Washington, D.C. and can be found in places like the White House, Congress, and the Pentagon.
And most call themselves Democrats and Republicans.
> So I think Juan should have just said Middle Eastern males
> make him nervous on planes and he is not alone!
It appears to me more drunken white males have been arrested and criminally prosecuted for threatening the safety of passengers and crew on airplanes.
If so, I’d rather be on a plane full of Muslims. Most of them don’t drink.
Most of those examples are of women wearing head scarf. There is a big difference between a head scarf and “Muslim garments”.
“The 70% of americans have the same opinion as Mr. Juan Williams.”
Fifty percent of Americans think they have a personal guardian angel. Twenty percent think god has spoken to them directly. Roughly half of Americans thinks that Christianity came before Judaism. Almost half of Americans believe in ghosts. Over 50 percent think the earth was created pretty much as depicted in the Bible.
You are in good company. Let me point you in the direction of a bridge.
And what do you believe in “little green men?”
You must be one of t he 50+% that voted for obama then and going strait to the cliff!
Yeah, but there is a big difference in making a woman wear a tent to cover herself from the eyes of men who just might rape her!
Any woman who is forced to cover herself in a tent to avoid the peering eyes of men is down right nuts! And this religion is full of nuts who not only make their women look like human bed spread’s but stone, shoot, burn, mutilate them. They also kill innocent people by vulnerable kids! I read a book entitled: In the name of honor! It gave a great insight to how muslim women are treated and the abuse they suffer!
I don’t like this religion for various reason’s, but the main reason is how they treat my gender!
I believe in equality all over this world not just in America and I don’t like terror organizations that pretend to be a religion!
Any religion who’s prophet married a nine year old baby is kinda suspect to me!
> Yeah, but there is a big difference in making a woman wear a tent to cover
> herself from the eyes of men who just might rape her!
I’m sorry, but Muslim women I’ve seen here in Anaheim where I live don’t wear clothing of the kind that you describe.
Various forms of Christianity throughout the ages have been equally repressive and brutal toward women.
You fail to understand that United States has killed millions of people abroad through the barbaric actions of its leaders.
And an overwhelming majority of the world’s one billion Muslims aren’t linked to any so-called “terror organizations”.
’m sorry, but Muslim women I’ve seen here in Anaheim where I live don’t wear clothing of the kind that you describe.
MQ says:
That’s because in America people like my friend are not forced to wear it! Try walking down a street in Iran without it! In England Shari law is being imposed on English women! I have seen women at south coast plasha in the muslim tent, how knows why??
“Various forms of Christianity throughout the ages have been equally repressive and brutal toward women.”
MQ says;
So what you are saying because women where burned at the stake in the1600’s for potential witchcraft, it’s ok practice in 2010???
The muslim religion has become the most brutal and oppressive religious institution toward women in the 21th century without a doubt because we have become accustom to muslims treating their females badly! It’s just the way they like it!!!!!!!
And because you are a PC idiot like most liberals you look the other way! Well, bud I don’t!
“You fail to understand that United States has killed millions of people abroad through the barbaric actions of its leaders.”
MQ says:
And you fail to understand like most liberal brats that the USA is fighting a shit load of Barbaric’s; These barbaric’s like to cut off the head’s of young men while video taping it; just for effect!
America is no angel, but American’s (maybe excluding you) are not barbaric!
“And an overwhelming majority of the world’s one billion Muslims aren’t link to any so-called “terror organizations”.
MQ says:
No, they just vote them in as their leaders! Hamas for example!!!!!!
“You’re too racist and xenophobic to see these things.”
MQ says:
I don’t think Danny Pearl was a racist or a Xenophobic and he lost his head! I don’t trust anyone; this world is full of very bad people; but when I get on a plane and see a middle eastern person I keep a good eye on him/her!
It’s called being aware of you’re surrounding’s, it can save your life.
Don’t worry if you even meet a muslim terrorist he would not kill you, cause you are as Anti-American as he is! You are worth keeping around Duane!
Muslims attacked us on 9/11 and they will continue to attack us because I and YES even YOU DUANE are a infidel; and they really, really believe that we either need to convert or DIE!
> That’s because in America people like my friend are not forced to
> wear it! Try walking down a street in Iran without it! In England
> Shari law is being imposed on English women! I have seen women
> at south coast plasha in the muslim tent, how knows why??
I’m a strong supporter of the idea that church and state be kept separate from one another and don’t believe women (including yourself) should be mandated by law to wear something covering their face.
The only time I ever saw a female actually wearing a veil was when I went to make some copies at an Office Depot store in Garden Grove about ten years ago. Most Muslim women here in Anaheim wear hijabs.
I don’t have a problem with women wearing hijabs if that is what they chose to do. Some Muslim women I’ve spoken with are pretty well-educated and are quite “Westernized”. They aren’t as “repressed” as you think.
I don’t agree with your stereotype that all Muslims are crazy wackos ready to chop off our head at a moment’s notice. Each religion has their share of fanatics. Self-professed Christians dropped atomic bombs on Japan, for example.
> And you fail to understand like most liberal brats that the USA is fighting
> a shit load of Barbaric’s; These barbaric’s like to cut off the head’s of
> young men while video taping it; just for effect!
There is plenty of leaked footage on the internet showing U.S. military forces mowing down dozens of innocent civilians using heavy machine gun fire and rockets. That’s not equally barbaric?
> America is no angel, but American’s (maybe excluding you) are
> not barbaric!
I don’t claim to be an angel
Nor do I consider all Americans as being barbaric.
But the recent release of 400,000 classified documents about the Iraq war sure document a lot of barbaric behavior by U.S. and British troops:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/8083120/Wikileaks-Row-over-US-cover-up-of-torture-of-detainees-in-Iraq.html
> But when I get on a plane and see a middle eastern person I keep a
> good eye on him/her!
What does a “Middle Eastern person” look like?
If you look at ATM video footage of some of the people who allegedly hijacked airplanes on 9/11, some dressed like college students.
America is the only place on earth were people are free; truly free! I understand that you do not have a clue about this world or the fact that people come here to be FREE!
When I came here to this country for the first time in my life my religion was not a factor and that is why muslim women are not imposed with the same oppressive treatment that they endure in most muslim countries.
I cannot understand for the life of me why you do not understand that the US military are fighting a war that is almost impossible to fight and YES innocent people will die because the bastard terrorist’s hind behind their kids, neighbor and friend! The enemy does not have a face and there is no way the military can distinguish who is who!
“But the recent release of 400,000 classified documents about the Iraq war sure document a lot of barbaric behavior by US and British troops:”
MQ says:
They are our soldiers not social workers and it is their job to kill the enemy in what ever way they can!
War is not for pussies like you, so don’t join the military. Our civilized troops are fighting sub-human beings that have no regard for life at all!
And a middle eastern person usually has deep golden brown skin, usually large dark brown eye’s and jet black hair! They can also have green eyes which looks very cool! Middle eastern women tend to be very beautiful and the men very handsome! I love their eye lashes!
So you can have a really, really nice looking dude who only wants to kill your western ass!
Like I said, “Trust no one and be aware of you’re surrounding’s”. And yes when I am on a plane and see the prince of Persia sitting beside me, I keep a good eye on the dude and maybe even chat him up!
> When I came here to this country for the first time in my life my
> religion was not a factor and that is why muslim women are not
> imposed with the same oppressive treatment that they endure in
> most muslim countries.
The United States has provided financial support and sold weapons to Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, and other countries that repress women.
> I cannot understand for the life of me why you do not understand
> that the US military are fighting a war that is almost impossible
> to fight and YES innocent people will die because the bastard
> terrorist’s hind behind their kids, neighbor and friend! The enemy
> does not have a face and there is no way the military can
> distinguish who is who!
The United States is in the Middle East to dominate and control the world’s dwindling supply of oil, not to fight “terrorism”.
Anyways, I’ve got better things to do than waste time with someone like yourself who has Black and White views of the world.
Go to live in a better country than U.S.A. I can buy one way ticket for you!.
> Go to live in a better country than U.S.A. I can buy one way ticket
> for you!.
Are you telling me I can’t exercise my constitutional right to make this country a much better place to live in?
No, Nancy you are not making this place a better place, but instead you are TRYING to destroying it! You are a CHE, MOA. Your logic is based on an ideology that our men and women fight against and it is sad that each brilliant fellow who gives up his life to keep this country as our founders in tended there is men like you who live in ignorance trying your best to change this country to fit your social justice, socialist, oppressive ideology!
And I agree you have your constitutional right to say what you feel and I have my constitutional right to correct your logic!
You keep hating America and I and many others will keep loving her! And supporting our troops no matter! I trust our troops to do the right thing and I know in the heat of battle humanity may be lost, but who are you to judge when you have never fought aganist men who’s only goal is to have you dead!
> You keep hating America and I and many others will keep loving her!
Yes.
That’s why I used to spend hundreds of hours in university libraries studying American history and reading the writings of Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison ….
Stick to Alien invader books and do not waste the foundings fathers time!
Religious practices are taken as so serious, absolute must do, at any given point in time. Yet look back a hundred years, and what was then an absolute must do practice in many faiths is now not adhered to in many cases. My point being that religious practice and ritual seems to be more a product of man than of the spirit, and man changes the rules over time with new interpretations, new revelations, etc. In the 1400’s in Europe people who adocated that baptism should not occur until the person was old enough to make the baptism decision themselves could decide and accept Christ were persecuted and even stoned to death for their beliefs by those who insisted baptism should occur in infancy. Those persecuted are called anabaptists. Today, freedom of religion (at least in western world) has erased this particular issue from its previous life threatening stature. It all seems so silly, including the garb that various religions advocate as being required to be chaste, pure, sweet, devoted, or whatever you want to call it.
What you are saying is most religions have lost the barbaric acts, while the muslim religion seems to thrive on them!
I agree!
But Lindsay Lohan and Courtney Love WOULD make me nervous if they got on a plane with me.
maybe women throughout the ages wore this but let’s look at the present. Today, these women FLY on a plane with you and can bring down the whole plane. Yes, anyone might do that but there is a certain prediliction with this group. They can go to heaven for killing you !!! This is the difference.
> Today, these women FLY on a plane with you and can bring down the whole
> plane. Yes, anyone might do that but there is a certain prediliction with this
> group. They can go to heaven for killing you !!! This is the difference.
This is nonsense.
How many Muslim women over the years have been arrested for endangering the safety of airline crew and passengers?
And by the way, white males are being arrested and criminally prosecuted all the time for threatening to blow up airplanes ….
See below:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8450391.stm
BBC
Two charged after Heathrow airliner security alert
A passenger has been charged with making a bomb threat which grounded a plane at London’s Heathrow Airport on Friday night.
Robert Fowles, 58, from Dover, Kent, was also charged with being drunk on an aircraft, the Metropolitan Police said.
Alexander McGinn, 48, who is also from Dover, was also charged with being drunk on an aircraft.
Armed police boarded the Dubai-bound Emirates flight after remarks were made to cabin crew ….
and I understand some of these female Muslims think they can get 72 verns.
Ok, That explains why the women are not as keen to blow themselves up!!!
🙂 Ok wetting myself now!
I like this side of you Vern not the angery liberal!
There is a big difference between a drunk and a killer!
Man, I honestly think that liberals are people who have never been outside their city limits!
“The United States has provided financial support and sold weapons to Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, and other countries that repress women.”
MQ says:
The united States have provided financial support and sold weapons to Britain and also Israel. But the British or Israelis are not stoning, hanging, burning, mutilating their women are they Nancy????
“The United States is in the Middle East to dominate and control the world’s dwindling supply of oil, not to fight “terrorism”.”
MQ says:
God you are completely naive! If the united states really wanted oil they would drill off shore!
The soldiers are not drilling for oil, they are shooting very bad men… I hope one day you might move out of your mum’s house and somewhat a clue of the world in which you live!
“Anyway, I’ve got better things to do than waste time with someone like yourself who has Black and White views of the world.”
MQ Says:
Off you go Nancy and make your mum some dinner!
The difference is that I have lived and you have existed! And that gives me somewhat a clue of the world around me and who are the good guys and who are the really, really bad guys!
> The united States have provided financial support and sold weapons to Britain
> and also Israel. But the British or Israelis are not stoning, hanging, burning,
> mutilating their women are they Nancy????
What the heck are you smoking?
These countries have committed outrageous atrocities.
Geesh.
I am not smoking anything, but I bet you are!
I am a Northern Irish Catholic DUANE! I know what the British are capable off, but even at their worst, they are no match to muslim terrorists. Sadam gased an entire village killing every man, woman and child in the village just for revenege!
Thosands of women and childern die at the hands of the taliban by stoning hanging. We can go back and regarding who did what!
But the question is if you believe this country is so bad, why the hell are you here???????
> I am a Northern Irish Catholic DUANE! I know what the British are capable
> off, but even at their worst, they are no match to muslim terrorists.
The British killed millions of people throughout the centuries. The once had an empire, remember?
> Sadam gased an entire village killing every man, woman and child in
> the village just for revenege!
And at that time, Saddam Hussein was backed by the United States.
> Thosands of women and childern die at the hands of the taliban by
> stoning hanging. We can go back and regarding who did what!
And the Taliban were originally backed by the United States.
The Mujahadeen — the forerunner of the Taliban — were doing the same thing. They received money and weapons from the Central Intelligence Agency.
By the way, I don’t support mass murder or genocide whether it was committed by Saddam Hussein, the Taliban, or the United States.
> But the question is if you believe this country is so bad, why the hell are
> you here???????
Perhaps because I was born here?
And what’s wrong with being extremely critical of wrongdoing committed by the people running this country?
I guess you don’t feel they should be held accountable for their actions?
I have seen terrorism first hand and I have seen the wrong doings of a Government!
But America has done by far more good in this world than it has done bad. In the muslim countries that is not the case!
And I think with this government right now you have a friend in the white house! Obama obviously shares the same hippie beliefs as you do. It is not your fault that you hate your country you are a product of the time you where born!
I hold all accountable for their actions the difference is the Muslim terrorist could not care less about accountability and they are hoping that you are so accountable for your actions that it weakens you!
They are counting on you Duane and your like to make this world weak and then puff “YOUR DEAD!”
Good night sleep tight and don’t let the muslim terrorist bite!
> And I think with this government right now you have a friend in
> the white house! Obama obviously shares the same hippie beliefs
> as you do.
I voted for Ralph Nader in 2008.
I’m not a fan of President Barack Obama.
It appears to me more drunken white males have been arrested and criminally prosecuted for threatening the safety of passengers and crew on airplanes.
If so, I’d rather be on a plane full of Muslims. Most of them don’t drink.
MQ says:
You really hope they will be drinking, less likely to be a terrorist!
As far as you stating the US military are terrorist’s; all I have to say about that one is you don’t know the difference between a hero and a terrorist because you know nothing about either!
You live in your liberal bubble in the USA protected by the men you claim to be terrorist’s and too much of a coward to become one!
Nancy, go live, that is my advise and respect the men/women who make sure your liberal ass is well protected!
> As far as you stating the US military are terrorist’s
But I didn’t say everybody in the U.S. military was a “terrorist”.
No sense arguing with you about it.
can you belive this guy . maybe next time he boards a plane with a guy name atta . i wonder if maybe he will ask him for autograph .. michell home run as always another mamby pamby guy . who hates the u.s . . vern good one ..could you think of those two bimbos where driving the plane . where is my parachute
> can you belive this guy . maybe next time he boards a plane with a
> guy name atta. i wonder if maybe he will ask him for autograph
If “Atta” tried to hijack the commercial airliner I was on and slam it into a building, I would wrestle him to the ground.
I don’t support terrorism whether it is committed by an “Atta”, Timothy McVeigh, Osma bin Laden, or George W. Bush.
I wish there where no bad people in the world, but the fact is there are and right now most of them are coming out of muslim countries! Maybe in a couple of years they might be coming out of France or even Ireland!
The truth is that as responsible human being’s we need to fight oppression everywhere. No longer can we be silent about the abuses that take place everyday in muslim countries against innocent women and children because of religious ideology. We much fight the muslims who would try to impose their CRAZY shari Law on us!
When the German Chancellor said the multiculturalism does not work, “I was thinking “How could it” one cultures believes in equality and the other culture believes in oppression!
The truth is that this world is going to undergo a massive fight between two cultures. The islamic culture goes against EVERYTHING that is normal. The Religion has become a Fascist ideology of intolerance, violence against its own and hatred of other cultures!
I believe without a doubt that this world is about to go to war with Islam and only one culture will survive!
Ok, I’ll let you profile guys named “atta” who board planes, as long as you throw in guys named “tim” who drive rental trucks . . . .
you are comparing w to atta , mcveigh . and bin laden . please turn off msnbc and get back to the real world .
Enlighten us. What is the difference between Atta and Mcveigh?
There are shit load of atta’s and a few nutty Mcveigh’s!
Did you know that Mcveigh was a socialist?
That’s funny, because McVeigh was a registered Republican and member of the NRA.
Blonde haired, blue eyed, Republican, NRA terrorist. Who would have guessed!
Republicans don’t tend to be socio-paths, that is a trait of liberals! When Timothy Mcveigh found out he had killed children he had no remorse!
Conservatives value the lives of children, liberals find it easy to discard them! (speaking from an observational stand point!)
Just because he was a registered republican does not mean he was one! Look at all the RINO’s!
As far as being a member of a gun club, is that a republican thing?? I would never own a gun or be a member of any gun club!
> you are comparing w to atta , mcveigh . and bin laden .
> please turn off msnbc and get back to the real world .
All of them have engaged in terrorism, whether it be state-sponsored or otherwise.
But to be fair, I’ll throw Clinton into the equation as well.
gee roberts come back from what ever planet you went too .