The MacLeanites are seething with anger…
Mission Viejo Councilman Lance MacLean started the road to his recall because of his infamous temper. Now, as his recall election draws to a close, his supporters appear to be channeling his anger – and his incivility.
Case in point – Dan Avery, the head of the MacLeanites. Avery’s comments got so bad that we had to ban him here at the Orange Juice. But his emails kept coming. Below are excerpts from his emails. You will read for yourself just how ugly the MacLeanites have gotten as the campaign has worn on. I had to edit them due to the curse words he likes to use.
I am posting his comments chronologically below. You will note that they get progressively worse as he begins to make more and more threats. Is this what the MacLeanites are all about?
- (Jan.1, 2010) YOU and I know the moment you said “you’d hold the post until you could approve it” that meant that you and your gay lover Gilbert would figure out some way to make me look stupid, Art. And I will bet an entire weeks’ pay, and I make a lot more money than you do bucko, that more people in Orange County read Salon than your blog. I went to UCI. The number two school for writing. I know everyone in CA who could get you to Number 1. But it will Cost you bucko. Have fun with Gilbert and his criminal friends.
- (Jan.1, 2010) Man you are one pathetic man. I’ve been on the net one hell of a lot longer than you Art. But I do have to applaud you, you can read. Damn I thought using her own name on the 460 would confuse you bumpkins. What I find amusing is that y0u and Gilbert can’t admit what Connie Lee did to Rick S. That this recall has nothing to do with Lance other than he was an easy target. Why you guys trusted that gin-soaked slut is anyone’s guess. Say Art, do you have a green card?
- (Jan.2, 2010) MacClean as never charged and he didn’t break any laws. To use a recall someone needs to break a law while in office, or steal money, something big.
- (Jan.3, 2010) Man you still don’t get it. I would only be happy if MacLean lost in Nov. I am not happy when people plan, as Larry as stated on your blog a couple of times, a revolution. Our system isn’t perfect, but it is one of the better ones around. Larry and his friends are fascists. They have no interest in compromise or shared governance. The want things run their way. They are truly dangerous to our way of life. Someday you’ll get it. Right after Larry sticks one of his knives in your back. And that day is coming. Check it out, he’s turned his back on just about every candidate he’s sponsored. Your turn will come.
- (Jan.6, 2010) Now here’s a link for you to read you stupid f*cking c*mstain
- (Jan.6, 2010) Did you really not know what I was doing? I’m in insurance for a living Art. You’ve been played. And the very first time Larry crosses the line with any of us we close you down. Your only option left is to pull Larry’s blog or wait to be sued. It’s your call.
- (Jan.15, 2010) Art, do you pay in cash? If you don’t withhold taxes you have to file a 1099. Tyler admits he doesn’t know some of their addresses so it’s clear he can’t file a 1099, which means he broke the law and the IRS will come for him. I own a business. Guess I’ll write the IRS about you. I am not bitter Art. You can say that all you want but it won’t make it true. Think of me when the IRS comes to see y0u.
- (Feb. 1, 2010) Well I just sent an email to Kelli at Allstate. She’s in charge of Customer Loyalty in Calfornia. Think I’m full of sh*t? My wife has been one of the top 5% of Allstate agents for the last 25 years. The state folks listen to us when we email them. You’re welcome. By the way, how much is that going to cost you?
- (Feb. 1, 2010) You see now that the recall will fail I’ve moved on: to stripping you of as much income as I can. you’re a pathetic human stain art.
Larry and Art I really with you would have published and distributed this a lot sooner! It is important for people to know who and what they are dealing with!
Wow, Dan is really a nice guy and a good person, I love his creative use of the english language, and the clarity of thought. He should really be the next mayor! Typice leftist SDS type, threaten to shut down the opposition and free thought!
#1) Anti – Gay rant. Homophobe
#2)Name calling. (For the record it is Slanderous to state a person is Unchaste)
#2b) Anti Immigrant sentiment, so Art disagrees with you, so you question his legality…. because he is hispanic? Uh…racist
#3)Yes, he was and he did….You are a fool, you don’t go to “Court ordered anger management” if you never did anything wrong
#5) Just vulgar
#6) Threats to silence opposition
#7) too much to list
You are a pathetic, homophobic, racist….. who thinks he is better than everybody!
If I recall, Lance just sat and listened to the good comments made about his efforts and the waste of over $250,000 .for a recall? Not working out quite the way the anti Lance people expected is it?
Mr. Avery please don’t tout that you went to UCI in the same breath with which you threaten someone. You smear the Anteater name.
Zot.
Folks. I received a voice mail from Dave Leckness on my cell phone. I am not sure if he was congratulating our side or thanking the Juice for posting this recap before Waste Management, our trash collector, arrives early tomorrow.
You can all see Mr Avery, a self proclaimed member of the SDS, or so he boasts to lift his ego, at last nights city council meeting.
American draft dodger Dan claims he was a member of the SDS..”Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) was a radical organization that aspired to overthrow America’s democratic institutions, remake its government in a Marxist image, and help America’s enemies defeat her sons on the battlefield in Vietnam.’
My hero!
It is obvious Dan was on just too many trips during his SDS days. No wonder he was blocked from the Juice. However Dan is not very far off the profile/actions of some of the other MacLean supporters.
Art–thanks for exposing this menace to the community.
Having just visited two of the 35 (or 36) MV precinct voting locations I would argue that this recall election should have been by “mail only” which would have greatly reduced the eventual cost that has been a topic of much debate.
Granted I was there between 3:30 and 4:15 but the voters were not to be found.
I observed two voters in one location and three in another.
“Vote By Mail” Ballots received through today totaled 10,068 while the live voting at the polls, as of 3 p.m., was 1,510 or 2.44% of our total Registered voters.
Having asked neighbors about their voting habits a few said they prefer going to the poll and getting that little sticker confirming that they indeed had voted.
Special Election or not it is disappointing when upwards of 50,000 Mission Viejo voters stay home when all that is required is a first class stamp.
It reminds me of the BOS race in the 1st District when Janet and Trung Nguyen battled it out while over 150,000 didn’t bother to participate yet will be the first to complain about their representatives.
Colin. As I am older than you, or I think that I am, perhaps I have attended more theatrical performances.
Last nights parade was a farewell to Lance. Every friend he could muster virtualy stood in line to sing his praises. The only ones to acknowledge that this might have been Lance’s last meeting as a council member acknowledged that possibility and commended him for his service. I refer to Planning Commissioner Rick Sanzimier who sat two seats away from me. Nancy Choe echoed those sentiments when she followed Rick.
Of course Lance sat quiet while permitting his fan club to go on attacking several people relentlessly including threats of litigation in which my name was included.
If you read the rules of our council meetings you will find that the time set aside for Public Comments is limited to 30 minutes yet Lance let his farewell go on until every supporter engaged in different levels of personal attacks.
As a courtesy on his last night in the center chair we boycotted Public Comments, something I never do if you follow our meetings.
As Paul Harvey would say, “now you know the rest of the story.”
Life is too short for so much hatred and anger Dan. Lance threw my entire community under the bus, and I have seem him do it to many other communities. Yes, I have feelings about that, and I have spoken them at council meeting; but I’ve never raged against Lance with the kind of vitriolic hatred that I see in your writings.
It’s sad.
Sure is quiet around here. But what I see on the OC Vote page is:
The recall has BARELY passed (by 118 votes – does this mean a recount?)
But the winner is NOT recall darling and automobile deadbeat Dale Tyler, but print-shop owner and illegal-alien employer DAVE LECKNESS!
* confetti flying *
Vern. See my election party report.
And let me say that as a sports fan I don’t care if you win Sunday by one field goal or a blowout a “W” is a “W” especially when the OCSD deputies union blew around $100,000 in an attempt to save Lance’s hide.
Vern,
As the Bible says, you have eyes and yet you cannot see.
Larry and his friends overcame great odds and were vastly outspent, but they won.
And in an election this close, this blog may have been the difference.
Leckness has a few months to prove he is no RINO. If not he will be out in November.
Also out in November will be scores of Dems in Congress…
Congrats brother Larry.
I didn’t say anything bad about his recall.
But I did have a better feeling about Leckness than Tyler.
Art, Dave is not a RINO… He is a DEM, with that being said, it is fine by me that he won the open seat! I think his “fun” “positive” or “goofy” approach to the meetings will be a welcome change in this city after what has gone on for the past 2 years. There is off the Chart anger, and I think he may be EXACTLY what the city needs right now. I don’t think the Conservatives will attack him, because after all he didn’t run as a Conservative or a REP, and the MUK’s Put him there, so they will probably not attack him. I honestly think this could be a “Good Case” with the council possbily being split 2-2 and Dave being a swing vote. Time will tell.
Larry………..I wouldn’t say you have seen more stage performances than I,However, as usual, you make statements that you cannot back up. Performances? where,? Bus trips from the Senior Center?
This has been a very nasty recall,with things said that have no baring on the situation.Unfortunatly I was unble to attend the last meeting, but saw quite a bit on TV.As usual, you were darting around but wearing a jacket? Bet you haven’t done that since your old Jersey days.Now ‘keep in mind that it was not a landslide 118 more votes against lancE. All the comments irected at Lance were real and honest.We have lost a good man. So, we will be watching very closly the new Council members and you.
Colin.
You didn’t attend Lance’s farwell? How sad.
You saw me darting around. I didn’t know the camera was focused on little old me. Like the jacket? I was multi-tasking and had a church board meeting to attend so I left immediately after opposing the golden parachute for the city manager. Glad you approve.
By the way. Did you see our latest banner on Saturday? MV Businessmen and businesswomen support the recall where we all wore suits or sportscoats. A nice twist if I must say so myself.
And you will be watching the new council “members.”
Let’s see. How many members were recalled today? Hmm. While it should have been three I can only count one.
Do I now have a problem with math?
I did call Dave after midnight to wish him well and called again after this final count was reported out. A new month and a new day. I shall always remember Groundhogs Day 2010