Why didn’t Supervisor Janet Nguyen’s Chief of Staff, Andrew Do, mention that he owns a Lee’s Sandwiches shop when he ran for the Garden Grove City Council this year? If you look at his campaign website it mentions that he is a former prosecutor but there is zero mention about his sandwich shop in Stanton, even though he is the majority owner.
And when Nguyen voted against proposed restaurant ratings, why didn’t Do ask her to refrain from voting, due to obvious conflict of interest? When exactly were they going to mention that Do and Nguyen’s husband co-own a restaurant that has received major County health violations?
i wonder if this is how Do is going to conduct himself as a Garden Grove Councilman? At the end of the day he and Nguyen appear to be just as bad as Van Tran and his Trannies…so of course Red County’s editor, Matt/Cunningham is shilling hard for him already (see the picture below).
So what are O.C.’s Vietnamese leaders saying about all this? Here are a few comments from readers over at the Bolsavik blog:
Fact Finder Says:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
So much for “clean government” claims by the fraudulent Janet Nguyen and her sidekick, Andrew Do.
What a bunch of liars. Andrew Do learns quickly.
Jung Kim Says:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Then Andrew dba criminal defense lawyer can donate his time defending Janet …..when it doesn’t conflict with his council meeting dates.
I say it’s all in the little viet mafia family!
Jung Kim Says:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:54 am
However, little mafia member Andrew himself is involved with this scandal and he might be named as “fall person” to be sacrificed.
Who knows? Andrew may be the real crook in this mess and Janet can be nothing more than a half innocent intentional bystander!
Janet the Evader Says:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Andrew Do failed the character test in this idiotic mistake as well. Isn’t he the 75% owner of Lee’s Sandwiches? The Stanton shop looks like a haunted house. Very few customers. What a hypocrite. Talk about bringing integrity and honesty to government when he’s so dishonest and evasive. Both you Andrew and Janet can burn in this scandal.
EDC Says:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Your mind,
You miss the point here. The point is not about Janet Nguyen or Andrew Do being guilty or not guilty. It’s about her lack of transparency and honesty, which is becoming a recurring pattern. Had she publicly spoken up and cleared herself and her chief employee, Andrew Do, who owns a majority portion of this sandwich shop, then no one would have raised an issue, not even her former favorite supporter, Art Pedroza.
However, Janet Nguyen failed to bring out this fact on a public matter that directly affects her and her employee’s interests. The silence shows that she had something to hide. And adding to the problem, her employee, Andrew Do, also co-owns the sandwich shop. Where was Do in all of this and why did he not advise Janet Nguyen, his boss, to bring forth this matter?
What makes it even worse is when the OC Register began to inquire about this issue, the two of them went mum, evading public scrutiny once again. Silence is not golden in this case.
A pattern of secret dealing and evasion has already developed over Janet Nguyen. Remember the FPPC problem and the lawsuit for non-payment from Jimy Camp, amongst other things? Janet Nguyen was ducking and hiding until she was forced to come clean, just like this sandwich shop incident.
EDC Says:
December 21st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Righteous,
Well, well. Let’s see how Janet Nguyen and Andrew Do’s political opponents present all these ethical lapses to the voting public. The great Carmac sees cockroaches and rats’ droppings all over the place and a huge FAIL sign on the health inspector’s report for the sandwich store. Let’s see how Janet Nguyen and Andrew Do (and he is really a Do Do) answer to these charges.
EDC Says:
December 22nd, 2008 at 8:42 am
Righteous,
Obviously, it’s not a “non-issue” as you may have wished. Really …. about legal counsel? Is this before or after the OC Register run the story? Wonder why they ran a story like this if it’s a non-issue.
I am very disappointed with Andrew Do, who is a lawyer and neck deep in this scandal as the majority owner of this sandwich shop. If Janet Nguyen doesn’t know, Do should know better. His city council seat is not even warm yet when he already step on kaka, especially when he campaigned on the issue of honesty and integrity in government. Do you know how to spell hypocrisy?
lottahope Says:
December 22nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
Is it now the time to start talking recall for Andrew Do? Who did’nt know where him and Janet were coming from long ago? Starting with the GG residency bullsh**…It all points out the arrogance that politicians can aquire. If not for the new watchdog movement most would be getting away with incalculable “appearances of impropiety”. To any idiot on this blog who declares this Janet Nguyen/Andrew Do matter to be a “non-issue”, one has to question either your intelligence level or your bias.
Butter Knife Says:
December 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
I have a friend of a friend of a friend whose cousin works on the 6th of Janet’s building. This person says Janet is very upset by all of this unwated attention. She plans to pay back Art in full personally since she can’t trust Andrew to do anything right any more.
Saint Nickclaus Says:
December 22nd, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Self Righteous. The Lee’s Sandwich Store fiasco is a gift that keeps on giving, especially around election time. It’s my gift to Janet Nguyen and Andrew Do. They own Lee’s and they should enjoy this gift from me year round. Ho ho ho !!!
I hate to disillusion you, Art, but Andrew’s campaign sent out at least one mailer pumping up his experience as a business owner. A campaign website isn’t the sum and substance of a campaign.
I don’t recall if it specifically used the words “sandwich shop” but he certainly wasn’t hiding the fact that he owns a small business. On the contrary.
I think this kind of story makes the hours spent reading Art, Matt, Sean, and junior sparring with each other (those hours are made more enjoyable by the creative contributions of Vern, Red Vixen,Laura Longboobs, and others – TY) incredibly worthwhile. I mean, where else can the average joe help keep a story alive, help get the story focused on the essential issues, and help bring out the rumors and innuendo surrounding the issue so they can be substantiated or dismissed. As commenter “lottahope” (love the name) above pointed out “If not for the new watchdog movement most would be getting away with incalculable “appearances of impropriety”. Read: Lies of Omission.
Another aspect of this hasn’t been discussed, and it seems to me to be an aspect that needs to be examined whenever we are talking about the Viet communityW; here did the money come from for the Lee’s Sandwich shops? Neither Janet or Andrew have much more than a pot to piss in (to use a colorful description used in the Irish immigrant community of my youth) so, like most of us, someone had to finance the shops. Their financial filings don’t show much collateral and given the economic influences in the Viet community (and the community’s hyper-anti-communist bent) I have to wonder if the lender is American or Communist Chinese and are Janet and Andrew hiding this also?
Is this good news for the Trannies or what? Merry Christmas!
Art,
You are so racist by claiming that all VN politicans are crooked. You and jose s. on Bolsavik must either be the same person or brothers.
This is not investigative reporting; it is gallous ranting of information leading up to nothing, like a cheap television episode.
What is the lesson? Nothing here but personal information on Andrew Do who is my in-law’s thrice removed cousin’s neighbor back in ‘Nam.
Your blog does not stir up any intelligent discussion but cyber undesirables, like taggers and thugs out to malign people’s reputation.
Shame on you!
Matt/Jubal,
Now you are covering up for Do too? Does your shilling never end?
Why did he hide the fact that he owns a sandwich shop during his campaign? Saying he owns a small business doesn’t count. He specifically dodged all mention of his sandwich shop – even as Janet was voting not to apply restaurant ratings to his business and all the other unsanitary shops that donated to Janet’s campaign.
Next up – we will be pulling Do’s financials to see how much money he took from unsanitary restaurant owners.
Thomas,
I never said ALL Vietnamese politicians are crooked, but in the OC most of them do seem to be rather nefarious, don’t they?
See what I mean? Look at the statement, “in the OC most of them do seem to be rather nefarious, don’t they?” If that is not racist to an average reader?
You are no better than all of these VN politicans strong-arming people you don’t like by probing into their personal life.
The VN Contingent are preparing to do the same to your personal information. Wait and see how we plan to discredit who you are and what you represent.
Art, the enemy of the masses.
Art,
I would suggest you call Tony about what he has found regarding Andrew. Its much more substantive.
Wow, Thomas Chou Trane, welcome to the west. Oh and welcome to the new reality. You pompous, bombastic, ineffectual, prick do you really think you can threaten us? Its YOU, your tiny minds and oversized egos that need to be afraid. Be very, very afraid. Stop us here and we will go there. Stop us there and we will move again. We are the shadow warriors you dreamt about. You are so totally screwed. Don’t come around here and try to threaten anybody again – di*khead.
Thomas Choo Trane, Welcome! I guess no one has to ask you to get over any shyness issues!
Matt “the shield” Cunningham: Defender of any GOP politician, or is he just in it for the sandwiches?
Now you are covering up for Do too? Does your shilling never end?
Art, I read your coverage of Janet long enough to know exactly what shilling is. You’re the master. i simply pointed out actual evidence that is contrary to your assertions. If you’re so insecure that your response too contrary evidence is too squeal “Shill!” that’s just a reflection on you. By all means, continue embarassing yourself.
Why did he hide the fact that he owns a sandwich shop during his campaign?
http://www.redcounty.com/orange-county/ocblog/Do_Jobs_tmg.pdf
This is getting comical, especially from you, Art. You phrased your council campaign literature to create the impression you worked for a Santa Ana business.
Matt “the shield” Cunningham: Defender of any GOP politician, or is he just in it for the sandwiches?
oh boy, here comes Red Vixen, intellectual giant of the OC blogosphere.
When you demonstrate the capability to formulate a substantive response to an argument or point, instead of flinging insults, buzzwords, catch phrases or cliches — then i might take you seriously.
Wow, Mr. Jubal, how mean of you and such a sourpuss attitude! I guess I know not to mention political pandering and free food in the same post while you’re around!
For all of Paul’s paranoid rants of all the Democratic leaders being shills for Janet, he forgets he is the original Janny. Folks, remember when he stuck a petition in your face asking to sign which was a movement by him to be Janet Nguyen’s appointment to the Harbor’s Beaches and Parks COmmission. He even gave $100 to her legal defense fund. Now if that is not a Janny, I don’t know what is!
He obviously did not get the appointment and went ape crap over it. So Paul, what have all your new allies worked out for you? How does it feel to have lost all your real friends, who truly were rooting you on for City Council in the beginning. What have your newfound friends the Hull-Richters, the Hoffmann’s and others done for you? Did they ever walk a precinct? Did they ever call a voter? What did Dina Nguyen do for yOU?
Every bridge is burned Paul so you lash out at everyone else instead of take responsibility for yourself. So remember everyone, Paul, the original Janny.
Like I said, RV, I’ll take you seriously when you show any sign of carrying on an discussion with adults.
Matt/Jubal,
Give me a break! Since when are YOU a paragon of virtue? This hasn’t exactly been a banner year for you. Have you forgotten the public flogging John and Ken gave you after you outed those molestation victims? Or the public outrage when we found out you were getting free OC Fair Concert Tickets at our expense?
Like I said, RV, I’ll take you seriously when you show any sign of carrying on an discussion with adults.
I thought you were just condemning snarky, cliche jabs, Mr. Jubal? I see that you and Irony meld well.
As far as being taken “seriously”, I don’t understand YOUR point there. I get to post a few things I find interesting on the OJ blog. I do it for fun and I am appreciative that Art has allowed me that. I just don’t see where I occupy a “serious” place on this or any other blog.
You, Mr. Jubal, seem to have a business on the internet in which you post up columns and apparently this makes up part of your income. If so, then that is serious stuff. However, if that is so, then your showing up here and complaining about Art’s Blog posters and contributors and expecting to be seen as “serious” seems to be at odds, weird or perhaps even suspect. It deserves a closer look.
I took a peek over at your OC Red County. Are you trying to say that your “seriousness” is different than garden-variety boring? You’ve got a yawner over there, Mr. Jubal. And you look lonely, too. Does anyone comment there? Maybe you should spend your time making up a host of monikers and talk to yourself, in all seriousness, and develop at least a pseudo-community?
If you are actually being paid to post at that site, you might want to be careful about using all your energies over here at Orange Juice. Your patrons might just start wondering what exactly your efforts are worth as far as their dollars go at the sleeper site that apparenntly even you don’t enjoy frequenting. Remember, you’ll be paying your own way into the OC Fair this next summer and you can’t count on feeding at the free food trough anymore, either. You’re going to need all the income you can muster to cover that kind of shortfall in your entertainment budget, don’t you think?
Now, I am back off to my evil plans to continue my personal war on Christmas! Muahahaha!
“Maybe you should spend your time making up a host of monikers and talk to yourself”
Red,
He already did that until he was outted by our good friends at the OC Weekly for doing so.
You can read about it here:
http://www.ocweekly.com/2006-04-13/news/who-is-jubal/
# 13,
You are obviously Phil Becerra, AKA Count Chocula The Unemployed Planner; And Uber Original Janny who has infected everyone in the Lib OC blogosphere with your infectious Janny Juice.
But I digress,
Paul Lucas WAS a supporter of Janet Nguyen. But from what he tells me, and I believe him because I have experienced Janet’s backstabbing and lying ways, is that he quickly became weary of Janet’s lies and dishonesty.
So, you criticize Lucas for donating to Janet’s legal defense fund. Well you forgot to mention it took almost a year from Janet to return that illegal donation to Lucas and Paul never made an issue of it on the blogosphere. Which he surely could have.
As far as bridges are concerned, I don’t know about that. But the only ones I know that talk trash on Paul, are the ones who weren’t his friends to begin with. Alicia Berhow was never his friend. Phil Becerra was never his friend he just needed rides to the bar. Marc Sussman was never his friend. So I don’t see any bridges burned here. Sounds like the shedding of dead weight to me. And besides how did this subject get on the thread regarding Andrew Do?
Now, I am back off to my evil plans to continue my personal war on Christmas! Muahahaha!
Butters? Is that you?
Thanks for the link, Sean. That was way back before I was even paying the slightest bit of attention to all this stuff!
Ouchies! That is one stinging article!
Who Is ‘Jubal’?
Republican activists engage in right-wing circle jerk on the Net
LOL! That’s what the FReep’er site is about. And those Free Republic guys don’t get paid for their circle jerking, either!
Butters? Is that you?
😉 Could beeeee……
I’m shopping for this treadmill for cats. This is REAL war for Xmas. Check out this video, it’s good to temper all that Jubalseriousness with some good old fashioned chuckles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5FZZxJPbSo
Why didn’t Andrew Do mention that he ties his shoes with a criss-cross pattern rather than in parallel?
What drivel !
Is Thomas Choo Trane related to Thomas Choo-Choo Train?
“And those Free Republic guys don’t get paid for their circle jerking, either!”
Red,
Doesn’t it make you a “prostitute” if you are paid to participate in a circle jerk?
junior,
So you think it is OK for Nguyen to vote AGAINST restaurant ratings in order to protect Do and her husband since their restaurant has had major County health violations? I don’t think that is drivel at all. I think it is a conflict of interest…
#23 Sean, no it makes you a “Fluffer.”
County Counsel de Mayo and OC Register did not see any conflict of interest but somehow you see it…
Doesn’t it make you a “prostitute” if you are paid to participate in a circle jerk?
What does it mean if you only SAY you are getting paid? Would that help drum up real pay from real suckers?
From the link: While it’s hard to see how Jubal’s writings could harm Cunningham’s reputation, it’s easy to see how he has used his secret identity to abuse the trust of his readers. He’s only been able to get away with it because those who know about it—insiders—either support it or consider it unimportant. And so Cunningham’s been able to go on with his fraudulent little duet, promoting Jubal who promotes Cunningham, in both cases pretending to supply readers with real insider knowledge. But, of course, the real insiders can see through Cunningham’s con. The only people who can’t are those who believe they can trust what they read on FlashReport and OC Blog. Saps.
Thomas,
Actually, the Register’s Steven Greenhut wrote that he felt that there WAS a conflict of interest.
RV:
You know, I could waste my readers time posting drviel, links to stories they can find everywhere else, or generally acting like a 15-year old.
But I don’t.
Besides, you have no understanding of how Red County works or the nature of my work for red County. But this is OJ, after all, where facts are optional.
And Sean, you’re good friends at the OC Weekly didn’t out me. They just finished a slow-motion process that had started several months before that and was coming to an end in any case.
Besides making unsubstantiated accusations, the OCW also committed the “journalistic log-rolling” they accused me of. The article was originally published as a Paul Brennan byline. During the last year, they changed the byline to Will Swaim, who now claims credit for the story he published under the name of a staffer.
Show me the link, buddy! Remember that we are looking you up on Wikipedia and getting the 411 on you!
Thomas the county council is paid to defend the actions of the council. That’s like asking the defense lawyer if the criminal is guilty.
Jubal,
You do admit that you used to carry on conversations with yourself and defrauded your readers in doing so, right?
You can smear the OJ, the OC Weekly, Art, Will Swaim, Red Vixen and me all you want. However the fact remain the same. You defrauded your readers by creating a mutual admiration society between Jubal and Matt.
Take a hike Anonyms! Calling me names and now trying to be my friend. No mas, no mas amigo!
See, Art can’t produce the link and you fabricating information. Whatever dreammers, until I see links to factual information.
Remember that we are looking you up on Wikipedia and getting the 411 on you!
Wow! Art Pedroza and Lil Ol’ OJ blog on Wiki?
Score!!!
RV, no, made that up; guessed it didn’t work. My claim still stands! Art handling information is akin to playing poker, all bluffing!
#32 Sean, really? How funny! Kind of like playing chess with yourself. So that’s how one got paid and the other volunteered. One was the jerk and the other the fluffer. I wonder did it happen in front of a mirror? OK, OK, I’ll stop.
Fellow readers, these are the reasons to never stop reading here. The last time I stopped was when Buffy went over to the dark side with that evil madman Gordon. I missed it!
Thank you Sean, and Merry Christmas, sorry I don’t have something equally fun to give you.
@Anonyms, try sending a card next year, not waste blog space!
Sean:
I don’t smear anyone. That’s what the job of Orange Juice is for. I stick to facts, and when I speculate, I say as much.
When I started posting on FlashReport, my Jubal identity was still under wraps. So when i cross-posted to save myself from having to write things twice, I referred to my pseudonym, or vice versa. Big deal. But I was getting lectured by the OC Weekly which was being dishonest with its readers about who actually wrote the article.
Then again — I’m getting lectures on credibility from you, a guy who a) praised Art when you first posted here, then b)assailed Art as a dishonorable liar when you left OJ and joined LOC, then c) praised Art as a fine potential councilman and returned to OJ to blog with the guy you previously said was practically a sociopath.
Thomas I was telling you that your defense using the county counsel (#26) was worthless just like Art did with your other defense the Register.
Don’t worry that wasn’t me trying to be your friend and I won’t go away.
But as you admitted to Red in #35 it is you who are bluffing and making things up on here. “If you were lying then (and you admitted you were) are you lying now?” will accompany your every post in my eyes.
Harsh? Happy New Year!
@Anonyms: Skip the “Happy New Year” bit; first impression is everything, and you are not a nice person, calling me names.
I said what I said in the spirit of things to prove a point, not to be taken verbatim. Did you not take a speech class on delivery? You skip the first part and pay attention to the main content.
BTW, happy holidays to you and yours! This is not an act of friendship or anything. Got it?
Now I understand Art’s insistence on referring to Mr. Jubal as Matt Cunningham.
The weight alone of being such a dork to try and trick people into lies and duplicity should be worn around the neck of Matt Cunningham. Matt has a political “consulting” business, yet he plays on blogs he considers meaningless and unworthy.
I smell a dead skunk and it looks like its decaying over at Red County.
First they took away his free tickets and meals at the fair….. what will fall away next? Party’s over, Dude.
Jubal,
So then “yes” you defrauded your readers when you heaped praise on Matt and vice/versa?
Red Vixen, Jubal is a dead horse when it comes to objectivity. He is as conservative as radioactivity to uranium-235. His posts do provide punctual and timely information and usually accurate, but his analysis lacks objectivity.
He sees what he sees, which is not wrong, but it is better to see both sides and determine that one view supersedes another for reason(s).
Not that I am saying I am close or any better than Jubal!
Thomas,
Seems you are making conflicting arguments:
Jubal is a dead horse when it comes to objectivity…. his analysis lacks objectivity.
Then…. He sees what he sees, which is not wrong,
Not being objective is going to hurt him going forward. Not being objective when you are reporting FACTS is sneaky and undermines credibility. In the past, this may have taken a back seat to just being a GOP mouthpiece and promoting the GOP agenda. But that’s pretty much coming to a halt. It was unsustainable. Matt made a living out of doing just that – defending the sometimes indefensible because it paid him well, as long as it was GOP sponsored. He got what I would consider excessive perks at the public’s and tax payer’s expense out at the fair as political favors. Isn’t that the kind of parasite that the GOP rails against? Talk about a Welfare Queen!
I don’t know how he counts his readership. He constantly nags and whines at Art and the sitemeter results, but just poking around there at the RC… he has no active, zealous readership posting comments and challenging the lines of discussion. Where is the action? Why is Matt drawn to a site like OJ?
You may not be any better or worse than Matt Cunningham, but I don’t see you spouting off that you have a serious blog and that other blogs are weak and petty. And then post to them.
Not familiar with that speech class Thomas, and I don’t think I want to be. I prefer to say what I mean first and second and if someone threatens anyone when I’m around … well they might have to talk to me first as I will be in their face.
Those who seek to intimidate will never be my friend but I’d love to be their associate for as long as they want to play. You are right, I’m not a nice person – I’m too situational to be called that.
I still wanna know if Thomas Choo Trane is related to Thomas the Choo-Choo Train.
Now I know how Jubal feels with enemies circling about. Give me time to reply to you all, starting with Red Vixen.
Jubal usually does good research on any subject, covering most of the material. His peer usually uses his blog as one reference. He states the facts accurately as far as I know most of the time.
From the facts comes analysis based on many variables from educational background, general knowledge, beliefs, moral values, and so forth.
Jubal sees topics one dimensionally, which I stated earlier, which is not incorrect. However, at times, the reader would like to know if he knows the other side of the argument. He could state what opposite view is, then either refute his earlier view or affirm his existing view, and this leaves the reader with fewer doubts about his grasp on the topic.
As for consistency in reporting, Jubal is human like all of us with many influences, from the making a living, upholding personal values, supporting a family, paying a mortgage, and so forth. We all cannot be perfect all the time, so read his postings with balance and try not be too judgemental because the reader is supposed to read different types of news sources before making a determination, right? Jubal never says that his posting is the ONLY PERSPECTIVE.
@Anonyms:
Trying to be the hero? If you read the initial blog more thoroughly, you would know where it is going. Obviously not, reacting like a teenager.
As for you, Junior, I shall not dignify your question with a response because your child(ren) already know(s) that answer. Go ask them.
Gee, maybe I am being thin-skinned, what if TCT is right and I misread the original comment?
“See what I mean? Look at the statement, “in the OC most of them do seem to be rather nefarious, don’t they?” If that is not racist to an average reader?
You are no better than all of these VN politicans strong-arming people you don’t like by probing into their personal life.
The VN Contingent are preparing to do the same to your personal information. Wait and see how we plan to discredit who you are and what you represent.
Art, the enemy of the masses.”
Oh I see it now, TCT is only acting like a Viet threatening Art. That’s very different and disgusting on a whole new level. Please accept my appologies.