Update 3/5/08: This post now has 2,003 comments! However, it has exceeded the capacities of our server and has been truncated recently at about 1,529 posts. But one of our readers has stepped up to the plate and painstakingly copied all of the comments into three NEW posts:
- SAUSD-Mijares corruption thread, 2008 Comments
- SAUSD-Mijares corruption thread, 2007 Comments
- SAUSD-Mijares corruption thread, 2006 Comments
We have also started a NEW open SAUSD thread, which I hope our readers will post to regarding new SAUSD news and views.
You can also go to our home page and go to the right column. Click on “SAUSD Posts” and you can get links to ALL of our past SAUSD articles.
I must say, I am amazed at the stories that have been posted on this blog in the wake of Al Mijares’ exit from the Santa Ana Unified School District. I am posting this item merely to give SAUSD bloggers a place to post their comments. Post away my friends – we have an opportunity now to finally do away with the corruption left over from the Mijares regime. Change is at hand, but we must remain resolute.
I noted that someone affiliated with the SAUSD administration recently posted a threat on this site – alleging possible legal action against SAUSD employees who post anonymously on this site. That is despicable and a form of terrorism. Do not let fear restrain any of you from revealing the truth.
The final challenge we face in Santa Ana is to replace Mijares with someone competent. We won’t have another opportunity like this anytime soon. This process must be open and focused and whatever else happens we must keep Audrey Noji out of the Superintendent’s position. As a member of the Cerritos College faculty and a member of the teacher’s union at that campus I opposed her when she tried to get a job at our campus. If she goes after the SAUSD superintendent post I will do so again. I know we can do better!
All of my children are in the SAUSD system. For their sake and that of all schoolchildren in the district, I urge those who are rebelling against the last vestiges of Mijares’ broken empire to keep the information flowing and to do whatever it takes to ensure that our next superintendent will be up to the task. Mijares certainly was over his head throughout his doomed tenure.
Luis Navaro steals $ 15,000 as a CSEA Board member and nothing happens.
The matter is not dismissed or closed and if you have proff to the contrary, post it or be quiet.
Luis Navaro stole the money and now wants to hide behind Noji and her corruption.
Poster # 417
Let us assume for a moment you are correct and poster # 416 has his or her facts wrong and the case is still pending. You prove it. If you talked to someone at CSEA who says the case is still pending, name them and we all can double check. Whose word do we take?
Art.
Could you keep the posts in order or do we need to just refer to the date and time to avoid confusion? The number references came up wrong.
So let me be clear.
Poster 11/3 at 5:58 You prove that the previous poster indicating that Mr. Navarro’s case was not dropped and who told you that so we can all call CSEA and confirm it.
# 419
http://www.csea.com/content/OptionC/c_1.asp?ChapterID=41
Who I speak to at Chapter 41 shall remain protected information due to the fact that Mr.Navarro has engaged in a long pattern of harrassment and intimidation.
Mr Navarro has attempted to provide disinformation to CSEA and her via anonymous post to complicate the issue.
Call (800) 564-9979 and demand that they press forward to either clear Mr Navarro or press charges.
Poster 11/03/2006 6:40 PM
That’s real convenient so before we continue this sideshow lets be clear. CSEA #41 is part of CSEA and CSEA is the victim. CSEA is not part of SAUSD corruption. If any investigation is ongoing in CSEA it will be held in Orange and Sacramento and has nothing to do with any SAUSD problems. So to be fair let’s assume you are correct and the CSEA case is in fact still ongoing.
Now can we get back to the topic here? This forum is corruption in SAUSD not CSEA!
Mr Navarro has a right to his opinions until proven otherwise. Obviously you won’t do it so his comments are as valid as anyone elses.
More directly to the point. What does Cecilia’s talking points say she will do for SAUSD? They say a lot about community and nothing about any programs, benefits, or anything else related to the district. I believe that says it all, or more properly fails to say anything.
District corruption is the topic, not interaction with the community or lack of it. You are not going to get community support until the district house is cleaned up first. Trust is a bond and if the community feels the district is corrupt they will ignore the district especially when the community is made up of people who are in fear of the government to begin with.
Cecila has not made that point and despite whatever is said about any other candidate some progress has been made. Cecilia works for one of the most questionable departments in the district office. She reports to a man with legal problems of his own in the district.
Do we really need that too? I don’t care who you vote for as long as it’s not Cecilia.
Does anyone have the name of a good investigative reporter to look into the bigger underlying problems in this district? It
At one point it was believed an investigative reporter was going to look into the allegations on this and other blogs. But when push came to shove almost no one would step forward out of fear of retaliation. Since the election is next week I’d be surprised if a big expose’ was published Monday. You all poisoned your own well and no one will step up to prove it. Too bad.
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Poster # 427
I don’t recall that anyone answered the question about how Noji had control of the other board members votes either, but I didn’t wait until the last minute to put up a shopping list of crimes Noji may or may not have committed.
For my answer I received some comment about ‘secret talks’ between board members accusing a violation of the Brown Act. Undocumented accusations by someone that obviously never read the Brown Act. I never received a true answer on HOW SHE CONTROLS OTHER PEOPLES VOTES!
So why should Mr. Navarro have to answer to you what Noji has done or not done over the last 16 years? As far as I know Mr. Navarro is not responsible to answer for Noji. He just supports her. Why I don’t know or care.
He did put up a long list of statements by Cecilia. Statements she uses which are pure spin, rhetoric, and garbage. Not one that says what she would do for SAUSD or inspire me to vote for her.
Yet your comments were good. Nice input finally by someone. Someone I assume that has brought these matters up at board meetings? Someone who can prove these claims and took them to the press where they could be further investigated and reported on? Or do we have another list of half hearted innuendo’s for a blog?
Mr. Navarro’s list was taken from Cecilia’s site and they are her platform. Your tossing out things which if true should have been brought out long before now, investigated and acted upon.
I never thought I’d write this but get off Navarro’s back. Put up or shut up with all the claims of misdeeds and crimes of Noji. They recalled Lopez, why not Noji?
No I’m not voting for Noji. I’m not voting for Cecilia either. She’s already corrupted by her SAUSD department and boss and I believe will only make things worse as she falls into the hands of the more experienced board members.
Poster #427 seems to have an insurmountable amount of information and numbers regarding costs and losses spent by the board. I wonder how that can be?
Could he or she be management perhaps? How else would anyone know the board has spent, what was it $500,000 on legal fees in one case and another $500,000 on legal fees over the health care management. Who else would know that a case against Del Terra never made it into a court room? Who else would be so bold to say that Valley renovation will not come in on time but a management person or even a board member?
Golly gee the numbers and names are so specific. How can that be? Why they weren’t reported should be obvious to # 428. The writer is inside the loop and has gone along with the program now to get his or her own board member elected. Hello Mr. Miyashiro or Cecilia or one of your subordinates.
Rosie Avila attacking Sal Tinajero can be found at this link:
http://o-juice.blogspot.com/2006/11/rosie-avila-decides-to-attack-sal.html#comments
#430 … thanks for the lead to the Rosie Avila thread.
For Cecilia followers;
cut and paste.
http://creativeyouth.net/childhaters.html
http://www.vanguardnews.com/brownact.htm#notapply
Read it closely. It’s long and boring but assuming you have a degree in law you should be able to follow it.
#415- Thanks for the link to the Brown Act. You need a law degree to read it? That
http://www.lawndalehigh.org/alumnisites/webpage.cfm?School_ID=1&WebPage_ID=34
New vice principal at Saddleback was appointed Principal in 2004 at Lawndale High School. He was dismissed this past school year. Guess which school district scooped him up? Did Noji even bother to find out why this guy was dismissed? So far, he’s shown up poorly. When he got caught sneaking around and spying on a teacher just to write her up, his excuse was he was “just following orders”. Just what Saddleback doesn’t need: Another clueless coward posing as a leader.
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:CdTwe5uoxuQJ:www.sausd.k12.ca.us/documents/minutes/8-8-06%2520SBM.doc+fred+gomeztrejo&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5
By a vote of 5-0, the Board took action to appoint Fred Gomeztrejo to the position of Assistant Principal at Saddleback High School for the 2006-07 school year.
To the poster who asked to make suggestions to help balance the budget- just can the principal and 4 of the VP’s at Saddleback. The staff will continue to do their jobs and they will have the added advantage of not having a pack of unethical back-stabbing administrators to hinder their jobs.
Noji,Rosie and Rob have no business being school board members overseeing fiasco after fiasco
Last summer I went around a few times with Luis Navarro over the issue of Jeff Bishop
Anonymous said…
11/06/2006 9:25 PM
Domain Name cox.net ? (Network)
IP Address 68.5.35.59 (Cox Communications)
ISP Cox Communications
Location Continent : North America
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State : California
City : Aliso Viejo
Mr. Pedroza
How is it possible for poster #436 to make the partial identification that was made and publically posted? My guess is that anonymous may become meaningless and the trust I had in you was greatly misplaced.
as for poster #436
What is your intention by posting some of my information? What is your point? Are you trying to intimidate me? If so, that is simply impossible. If you think for some reason you can scare me off, think again.
I presented you with a reasonable/logically argument designed to show the wrong headedness of your point of view and you respond not with facts or reason but instead with a sophomoric attempt at intimidation. Someday sir I hope to meet you and when I do I will punch you in the nose so hard your grandmother will yelp in pain.
To Poster 11/06/2006 8:26 PM
Obviously you don’t have a law degree. Unschooled experts often take a small part of the opinion to apply for the point they want to make.
If you read the Brown act in it’s entirety you would realize that it is intended for secrecy behind closed doors during official meetings. Not what is said between members in unofficial discussions. Deliberations are held in official meetings and not in some conversations between board members at a bar or on the phone. It’s a fine point I agree but it is legal and I agree it is wrong, but it is not basis for complaint. If board members discuss legislation by that board off record then they are in violation of the law. The problem is proving it. I agree
Too, bad!
Cecilia!
If for one minute, you thought you had a chance, you were in dreamland! You can also, blame your boss for your lack of votes and wish him luck on 12/4/06. OH! One more thing, you should have thought twice before asking for contributions and putting your campaign information at the district office mailboxes and campaigning during hours of employment!
People saw right through you!
CONGRATULATIONS! MS. NOJI AND A JOB WELL DONE.
Luis Navarro
If you don’t all ready know.
SANTA ANA UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT Governing Board Member
Number To Vote For: 2
Completed Precincts: 102 of 102
Vote Count Percentage
JOHN PALACIO 8571 38.9%
AUDREY YAMAGATA NOJI 6978 31.7%
CECILIA AGUINAGA 6486 29.4%
CITY OF SANTA ANA Member, City Council Ward 6
Completed Precincts: 126 of 126
Vote Count Percentage
SAL TINAJERO 8807 42.4%
JENNIFER VILLASENOR 8227 39.6%
GEORGE M. COLLINS 3731 18.0%
To poster 11/06/2006 9:25 PM
I am flattered at your elongaded writing. It means 2 things to me. You are full of it and are very bright. I commend you on your articulation. The vote is done and if you are right in your thinking I commend you. This is a simple matter of opinion. Neither of us was wrong or right. We just didn’t agree. My Hat is off to you sir or madam. Let us agree to disagree
Not need to be disrespectful towards those that run for office. I didn’t see your name on the ballot. It takes a lot of ambition to campaign for a position, and a steel exterior. Not everyone that runs for office has ulterior motives or malicious intentions. It’s much easier to lob unfounded accusations from the sidelines, than it is to put yourself out there and at least attempt to make a difference, whether your visons are shared or not.
The voting is done, but the counting is not. The provisionals should be completed by the end of the week. For those who have a very short memory – Noji claimed victory over Nativo Lopez in ’98 only to lose after all the votes were counted. After all, only 492 votes separate the two.
Update: There are over 100,000 ballots countywide that have not been counted and they project that 25,000 to 30,000 are in the 34th CD. Another 17,000 electronic provisonals ballots countywide have not been counted as well. Projections for final count is next week sometime.
Poster 11/08/2006 1:06 PM
You make a good point. It ain’t over until the fat lady sings. As of this writing the seperation was over 550 but that could all change. I guess we will just have to see how it plays out.
#436
Busy trying to intimidate other posters to stop posting?
That old way of doing things is coming to an end. There will be no more hiding behind incompetent managers and corrupt power structures.
There are several good programs to hide ISP #’s. But the bottom line is that posting to a forum is not against any laws. Anyone who wants to prosecute posters would only expose themself and be open to cross examination as to why it was so important to hush up others.
Anyone who cares about the students, community and teaching wants things to improve. Worst district? We only have one way to go and that is up. Anyone who deliberately stands in the way is going to get run over.
It so sad to see that there is so much hate on this blog. Instead on focusing on the children and working together, you bash each other and for what? In the end our maker will judge you, for only you and him truly know what is good in you and what is bad. I say let’s have more peace and harmony for each other! Remember, global warming is very real and coming very soon!
If you click on the site meter on the left hand side of the page at the bottom you will discover how poster #436 did it. Click on “Who’s On?” at the upper left hand side of the new page. Then click on any number below the “Detail” column. So far I have not been able to dig deeper for more details on who is posting. It is my hope I have come to a deadend because it is a deadend for me and for everyone. Anonymity preserved for all who want or need it!
“My sources tell me that Cecilia Aguinaga wants Tinajero’s seat – but lets consider all comers and do what is best for our kids. I like Aguinaga, but it bothers me that her children are enrolled in a private school – something I found out towards the end of the election cycle. Our next board member should be a proud supporter of PUBLIC schools.”
Stop dreaming, Cecilia!
Any person with the brain size of a pea; knows or should have known, you don’t claim to be pro student, pro education and support teachers and classified employees one minute and turn around and do the opposite!
TALK IS CHEAP!
On the other hand!
How long have you been working in your current position?
You cannot tell me or anyone else that you don’t know and failed to do the right thing, especially if you were thinking of running for School Board!
You do not have the smarts to be on the school board, if you did, you would have dropped a (forget a dime)
Luis Navarro………..you are a mean and nasty little man……….other words that come to mind are base, petty, vindictive, uninformed, partisan, foolish, spinner, unfair, narrow minded, and as a recovering Catholic, you are seriously catholic!
#450 – Luis,
Thanks for the upcoming court dates. Do you really think that cecelia is responsible for her boss’ continued employment?
Doesn’t this seem like a huge HR mistake by Juan Lopez? Looks like Lopez has been giving this guy a pass for quite a while now.
Just asking.
Luis Navarro –
You are a hypocrite! Audrey Noji did not permit her son to attend a SAUSD high school. She chose to
enroll him in the Irvine Unified School District system.
If you recall, Noji lost her ’98 bid to Nativo Lopez because she abandoned SAUSD as her public school of choice.
It cuts both ways, hypocrite.
Luis needs to review the SAUSD organizational chart.
It’s very possible Juan Lopez has messed up big time, however he takes direction from someone and it is NOT Cecilia Aguinaga.
So now everyone is jumping on Mr. Navarro for putting facts out there. It appears to me he is stating the obvious.
For those questioning the organizational chart. The Superintendent answers to the board. The Asst. Superintendents answer to the Superintendent. Building Service and Human resources answers to the Asst. Superintendents.
Would this chain answer in part to Cecilia if she been elected to the board? Do you honestly think her boss put her up to run for board and supported her for his own health?
Has Cecilia’s boss been given a free pass? Yes. Back to Mijare’s control of the district. Why he wasn’t named in the lawsuits outlined by Mr. Navarro is interesting. Mr. Mijares had an obligation to bring these matters before the board. How impartial would Cecilia have been?
The obvious is often not obvious. Reality has a way of unfolding sometimes rapidly and sometimes slowly. To understand reality you have to see it as a movie/video constantly changing and never remaining still. On the other hand, to see reality as a snapshot is to see the world as black and white, this or that, right or wrong, truth or falsehood. Navarro is a black and white thinker. That perspective will often but not always lead Navarro to draw false conclusions based upon the incomplete information of the moment. The election is not yet over yet Navarro has “seen” Cecilia defeated. He may ultimately be correct but none the less facts are still evolving and I for one am not willing to call the election just yet.
As for the organizational chart; the assistant superintendents answers to the deputy superintendent who, in turn, answers to the superintendent. The superintendent and the deputy superintendent are both right now temporary appointments.
I have spoken to Cecilia for many hours on end and I am convinced she is no dupe. I believe she is genuinely motivated by a desire to help kids, teachers, and the vast family of SAUSD employees. All of the crass motivations invented by her detractors are nothing more than mischief making designed to perpetuate the status quo, a condition the mischief makers benefit from handsomely.
Lawsuits that HR could have prevented are costly to productivity and to the bottom line. Here are some things to consider when HR acts irresponsibly over and over again:
http://www.workerscompensation.com/regulations/reference/content.php?id=1051&state=california&category=ER
There are some exceptions to when an injured worker can receive workers’ compensation and also sue the employer for civil damages. These situations may include such things as an employer being guilty of violating federal and state anti-discriminatory statute, violation of sexual harassment laws, a deliberate and willful intent on the part of the employer to injure the worker, and threats to discharge or actual termination for the filing of a valid workers’ compensation claim.
In addition, if an employer does not have workers’ compensation coverage or is not qualified as a self-insured, the injured worker may sue the employer. There are also other circumstances where the employer might be held civilly liable such as when he engages in fraudulent activity.
11/10/2006 9:51 PM
You may be right, but there is always a little right and wrong in every person’s thinking including my own.
The election may not be over and Cecilia may still win. Cecilia’s heart and motivations may be with all of the best intentions. It’s too bad Cecilia didn’t spend ‘hours on end’ talking to everyone else because then we all would have this evolving movie we could watch along with you.
Mr. Navarro may not be the sophisticated writer that you are but his points were not totally accepted or rejected blindly just as yours were not either.
Probably the largest difference thus far is that Mr. Navarro put his name, warts and all, out there while you and I wrote under the name Anonymous.
You and others were free to make Noji’s campaign about Navarro’s support or her longevity as a board member. All we had to work with was Cecilia’s talking points, professionally written by an obviously hired campaign manager and which basically said absolutely nothing about what she had in mind for SAUSD.
It was her lack of substance, not her lack of good intentions that I came to question.
The Superintendent and deputy superintendent, as you accurately stated I over looked, may be ‘temps’ but they still have obligations of duty to perform until they become permanent or are replaced.
In reality we are all ‘temps’. The question is just for how long. The only difference I see in your philisophical version of reality is you are right and everyone else must be wrong because even if you are not completely right, you can’t possibly be wrong.
Mischief making, as you call it, in this case was looking at the facts, lack of substance and trying to decide who to vote for. I personally don’t care for cookies or Salsa, but that seemed to be part of the silliness of a campaign that should have had some substance.
Which ever candidate ultimately prefails, in my black and white snapshot of reality, we still all lose.
Interesting response. You seem to be suffering from philosophical relativism. You seem to be saying that all perspectives have some element of truth to them and since no one is capable of understanding the complete truth, all perspectives are therefore equally plausible. The problem with your relativism is the opposite formulation can be made. All perspectives have some element of falsehood to them and since no one is capable of identifying what is false and what is true, all perspectives are replete with unknowable contradictions therefore nothing can be really known. That is agnosticism.
As I said at the start on 11/10/2006 5:45 PM I am trying to understand reality, the material world, a world independent of human existence but none-the-less knowable. For example, I can not feel the Earth move so it is perfectly reasonable to assert the sun revolves around the Earth. Everyday I see the sun rise in the east and set in the west. Who can possibly argument with my understanding of reality? Further, I could also argue that not only does the sun revolve around the Earth but the force pushing the sun around the Earth are winged angels. Further still, I can argue that these angels are God’s perfect beings who exist for no other reason then to bring light and warmth to all God’s creatures on Earth. Through study and reason and observation and experimentation reality turns out to be something entirely different. The Earth rotates on it’s axis held in orbit around the sun by the balance between gravity pulling the Earth toward the sun and inertia trying to send the Earth out into space with a tangential velocity. I can be somewhat wrong only in-so-far as I have an incomplete view of reality. But through the process of practice and theory I can try to get a better understanding of the world I live in triangulating on the truth via ever tightening spirals based on objective evidence.
Thus, in a short sentence, the farther you stray from reality the more wrong you are likely to be. Luis Navarro and you, to a lesser extent, have strayed from reality because you let unrecognized biases, unexamined prejudices, and reason without evidence guide your thinking. Rumor and hate and “truthiness” are not facts. As you may have already guessed, I am not prone to bumper sticker sloganeering.
You do have a semi firm grasp on my point of view but not entirely. The need to paste labels of varied thinking which may not agree with yours is an area I prefer not to indulge in, but since you need to have a label, consider me a political agnostic. In other words I am unwilling to commit to an opinion which I can neither confirm or deny.
In this case call it a form of logic. Neither candidate, nor those on one side or the other were able to provide something that forced a decision apart from or in opposition to reason.
Don’t think it went unnoticed that you avoided my point regarding the lack of substance by either candidate or that the primary attack by you and others were more on supporters such as Mr. Navarro and now myself for having a different philosophical point of view.
I recall a psychology professor who remarkably jumped up on his desk and professed that we as the dominant culture of the world should conquer it. Was he serious or making a point? No one ever knew because he never told us what was really in his mind. We had to draw our own conclusions based on our own thinking.
All of which brings us back full circle to the election. We had to base our decisions on what we knew and what we didn’t know using the information we had to work with. In short yes I am a political agnostic when it came to these 2 specific candidates because no one really was given a true insight to either ones thinking. Instead we were treated to attacks without merit in both cases and had to draw our own conclusions.
As much as we could probably debate this until someone comes up with the solution for pi, I think we’ve probably both said enough. When the count is finished neither of us have any reason to gloat because we are not the winner or the loser. Sixty thousand children will be. Check with me in four years.
Did anyone think to look into the backgrond of the plaintiff cited in this case???
One of the biggest problems at SAUSD is Juan Lopez in HR. He is responsible for hiring dead-enders from other districts that cast them off. Why does he need to collect garbage from other districts to hobble SAUSD? Because it
Did anyone think to look into the backgrond of the plaintiff cited in this case???
Juan Lopez in HR should have done it. Or do you think that is Cecilia’s job, too?
http://o-juice.blogspot.com/2006/11/santa-ana-election-update_09.html#comments
From Art Pedroza:
Poster #22,
You wrote, “We all do what we think is best for our children.” And yet you question what I am doing as a father? If you are going to do that, at least have the guts to use your name.
Yes, we just remodeled our home. We did it so each of our kids could have their own room. Quite frankly, that was a top priority for all of us.
We want the public schools to work for our kids. They have all gone through the fundamental system and are doing quite well. Our daughter is on the water polo and swim teams at Santa Ana High. My wife and her mom both graduated from Santa Ana High – and I like that we are continuing that tradition with our daughter. Our older son is a straight A student at Mendez. I am also very proud of my ten year old – he has my intellectual curiousity and a great imagination.
Yes, I am glad I went to a good private school, but I missed out on a lot by not going to a public school. I graduated with a 3.87 GPA, a year early, but really lacked direction. I might have had more advice had I been in a public school. It ended up taking me 17 years to finish my first degree – and this year I finished an MBA.
I am in a position now to be a role model to my children – I am an example of what happens when you get married very young and have to struggle through life – but I never quit and now I am doing quite well. And I was the first person in my immediate family to finish college. And now I am at the top of my field as a safety director for a $60 million contractor. God has been good to me.
Let’s not turn our backs on our public schools. Too many of our families have no other options – and if we take our kids out the schools will be the lesser for it. Instead, let’s work to elect better trustees and affect positive change. We can do it!
To poster:
A plaintiff in a civil lawsuit is not always a “victim,” particularly not until the case is heard and adjudicated. That would be criminal law. Who’s not too smart?
In a civil law suit of sexual harassment in the workplace against an employer, a plaintiff can be a victim. In the case you are citing it is obvious the court has decided there is merit to proceed with this case. As for the comment made earlier about the plaintiff’s background. The blogger seems to have the answer to the question they proposed. If this person knows of the plaintiff’s background they should share it with the rest of us so we can make our own judgement on the plaintiff. If the plaintiff’s background is in question, is the information more of the same rumor or is it a fact that can be accessed by all of us through the public access information. The blogger makes his or her statement as if they have personal knowledge of the plaintiff’s background. We should be entiitled to know the truth, not just rumor. An earlier blogger posted facts gathered through the public access information provided by the court itself, we can trust that information to be true, but to just make a comment about someones background without it being substantiated doesn’t help.
“Anonymous said…
Did anyone think to look into the backgrond of the plaintiff cited in this case???
11/12/2006 9:45 AM
Anonymous said…
A plaintiff in a civil lawsuit is not always a “victim,” particularly not until the case is heard and adjudicated. That would be criminal law. Who’s not too smart?
11/13/2006 1:45 PM”
If you are going to question the plaintiffs background;
Either put up or shut up!
You brought this as a question, because you know the plaintiff and her background and/or a poor attempt to divert attention from the aggressor!
If this is the case!
I would like to know and you should be brave enough to sign your name to your post; of course, unless your true intent is to try and discredit and bring doubt to the “VICTIM”
Too little, too late!
If your intent was to discredit the “VICTIM” you should have done more to prevent this case from going to court. Oh! Wait, if there was no merit for the “VICTIM’S” case it wouldn’t be going to court!
“Who’s not too smart?”
RIGHT BACK AT YA!
It was a question…I was asking if anyone had information or knowledge of the plaintiff. Just because someone files a lawsuit does not automatically mean the plaintiff is a victim. Has the case been heard by a jury or settled yet? Keep in ind there are many people in this world looking for a big bank account to tap. (I’m not implying this is the case in the lawsuit). Anyone can file a suit for any reason. I also did not state that there is no validity to the plaintiff’s claim.
Quit reading between the lines. Here you are again making something out of a question put forth. Talk about intimidation.
If you are so concerned about “getting the corruption out of the district,” blogging here is not going to do it. I’ve yet to see any usefull information here other than the “Brown Act” stated and interpreted in layman’s terms, and the dates and times of pending lawsuites.
You will no longer hear from me. I’ve realized no one here thinks critically. It seems to be more about rumor, speculation, whining and crying, rather than looking for facts and solutions.
Who wants to post with their name when all you do is agressively attack the person posing the questions? Good luck to all.