State Senator Dick Ackerman is terming out. Two Republicans are vying for his State Senate seat – one is from the south part of the district, Assemblywoman Mimi Walters. The other is from Anaheim, which represents only a sliver of the district – that would be Anaheim Councilman Harry Sidhu.
The map above shows an outline of the 33rd Senate District. Walters clearly has an advantage in terms of name I.D.
However, what do Sidhu and Walters have to say about racist Anaheim Union High School District Trustee Harald Martin? There is a major effort underway RIGHT NOW to unseat Martin and force a special election.
As the 33rd Senate District includes a chunk of the Anaheim Union High School District, it is only fair that Sidhu and Walters SPILL THE BEANS and tell us if they support the effort to bet rid of Martin.
I have no idea if either of these Republicans supports the ouster of Martin – but it is certainly a fair question to ask!
I understand that Sidhu lives in Anaheim Hills. So he will likely say that he does not live in the AUHSD. So? He is running for a State Senate District that INCLUDES a piece of the AUHSD. So I want to know – does he support the ouster of Martin? I suspect he does not. His campaign website includes a picture of Sidhu with the famed Mexican hater and former Governor, Pete Wilson.
The fact is, I suspect that both Mimi and Harry will stay mum about Martin, because they belong to a party that CATERS to Mexican haters. The last thing either of them want to do is antagonize the Minuteman voters.
I hope one of them proves me wrong. But I won’t be holding my breath.
Art that is about the stupidest pinche thing you have ever written. Let’s talk about race baiting….oh wait you are! I have a picture with Wilson….and I love Mexicans! I find it amazing that you bitch here day after day about how much people (republicans) hate mexicans. And yet you keep baiting the subject. LOL art….you are the pot and the kettle.
Ohh yeah and why don’t you call Harry and ask him his view yourself?
Flowerszzz,
Yes my dear, but YOU ARE NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE. And you are an anon poster. Who cares if you posed with Wilson?
Sidhu apparently is proud of his Wilsonian attachment.
All is forgiven if Sidhu steps up to the plate and backs the ouster of Martin. Otherwise I will assume he agrees with Martin’s incessant Mexican hating.
As for calling Harry, why should I do that? If he cared about the Martin ouster WE WOULD ALREADY KNOW. He has clearly dodged the issue. But he won’t be able to do that now…
Otherwise I will assume he agrees with Martin’s incessant Mexican hating.
Oh, that’s logical.
As for calling Harry, why should I do that?
Maybe to avoid a double standard? I month or so ago you “ripped” (as you like to say) for criticizing Janet Nguyen on something without calling her up to get her side.
Is it asking so much that you do what you demand of others?
This AUHSD chunk that Art talks about is 2% of SD 33 voters. A whole 2%. 98% of SD 33 voters could care less about AUHSD. It would be an utter waste of time for Sidhu and Walters to involve themselves in this.
There’s a similar-size chunk of the Orange Unified School District in AD 69, SD 34, and the 1st Supervisorial District. I don’t see anyone calling on Jose Solorio, Lou Correa, or Janet Nguyen (or Joe Dunn or Tom Umberg, for that matter) to intervene in the recall of Steve Rocco.
Matt,
That spin won’t play here. You know quite well that I have made no claims about Harry. I posed a simple question – why has he been absent from the anti-Martin campaign? That is a fair question and you know it.
Look at State Senator Lou Correa, over in the 34th. He has been a huge supporter of the campaign to oust Martin FROM THE START.
But Harry and Mimi are MISSING IN ACTION. Why is that Matt? I think we know the answer.
I am calling them all out here and now. They need to take a stand. The voters in the 33rd and in the AUHSD need to know if they support the racist Martin.
OC Native,
Are you saying some of the voters in the 33rd don’t count? Did you learn nothing when Supervisor Nguyen won by a handful of votes? EVERY VOTE COUNTS!
Voters deserve to know where Harry and Mimi stand.
As for Steve Rocco, he was elected by Republicans. Matt Cunningham has already said he would vote for him again. But if Rocco’s last name was Rodriguez, the Reeps would not have voted for him…and the recall would not be necessary.
BTW, I am glad you mentioned Joe Dunn. Great question! What about Joe? Why has he been silent? He too needs to step up…or is also afraid to P.O. the white voters he will need in order to win the First District?
That spin won’t play here. You know quite well that I have made no claims about Harry. I posed a simple question – why has he been absent from the anti-Martin campaign? That is a fair question and you know it.
There’s no spin, Art. I’m not even supporting Harry. But when your say Sidhu must agree with Martin’s views unless he supports an AUHSD special election — one doesn’t follow from the other.
Don’t just assume Harry Sidhu reads the comments on your blog. If you want to know, just ask him.
Matt,
I am not making such assumptions. I am sure that someone will point him to my blog.
More importantly, I am sure that some of the MSM reporters who read my blog will be calling him as well.
Harry and Mimi won’t be able to dodge this issue any longer…
As for Steve Rocco, he was elected by Republicans.
Art, can you give me the partisan breakdown of all the OUSD voters who voted for Rocco in 2004?
Matt Cunningham has already said he would vote for him again.
No, I didn’t say that. What I said was if it were a choice between Steve Rocco and a liberal teachers union candidate, I’d vote for Rocco.
I know it’s hard for you, but try to be factual.
But if Rocco’s last name was Rodriguez, the Reeps would not have voted for him…and the recall would not be necessary.
That is such a crock, Art. Your hallucinations of racists behind every corner is becoming truly bizarre. You have absolutely no factual basis on which to make such a ludicrous claim.
Why not do it yourself, Art? You obviously consider it to be of major importance.
Ask him in an e-mail. I’m sure one of these will work:
harry4statesenate@gmail.com
info@JoinHarry.com
joinharry@gmail.com
HarrySidhu@AnaheimGov.Com
Or you can call Harry at 714.765.5247 or his council assistant at 714.765.5057
art you are a joke . i agree you are RACE BAITER . your always calling everyone who dose not agree with you racist . maybe you should look in the mirror when you call some one that . maybe your racist . pete wilson was great trying to clean up california from ILLEGAL MEXICANS . 187 PASSED BY 60 PERCENT OF THE PUBLIC . if this passed maybe we would not have all the ILLEGAL PROBLEMS we have now .
#9 thank you for someone else for saying what put down in your post about art . hey art how many dems voted for rocco do you have the numbers on that too or just the the reps . i think art had too many shots from his trip calling everyone RACIST . RACIST . RACIST . like the boy who cried wolf all the time zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Matt,
Rocco beat Phil MARTINEZ by 54.1% to 45.9%. In that same election, Wes Poutsma beat Christopher Salorio by 54.7% to 45.3%.
According to an article in USA Today, “The union endorsed Rocco’s opponent, Phil Martinez, a park ranger who has three children in the district, is a PTA president and is active with the Boy Scouts.”
But Martinez lost. The same article quoted John Hanna as saying that race had nothing to do with the election results. I would like to know where he got that information from!
Yes, Martinez did not have a good ballot designation – as a park ranger. And yes, Rocco did run as an “educator.” But that still does not explain how a guy could win without running a campaign – against a guy who did run a campaign.
I also took a look at the demographics for the City of Orange – I could not find any numbers for Orange Unified specifically. White residents make up 54.7% of the population. Latinos come in at 32.2%.
Republicans outnumber Democrats in the City of Orange by 33,416 to 18,597.
I also found a post at http://www.orangeelections.blogspot.com/, where some guy named “Orange Voter” had this to say about Martinez: “Phil Martinez, Frank Finn, and Robert Douglas, these candidates have published themselves has either heavily supported by unions or are running as Democrats. “
That post is referring to a council race, but it reminds me about the Rocco versus Martinez race. I am pretty sure that the Education Alliance opposed Martinez because of his union support. That too might have helped Rocco win. The Education Alliance is made up of conservative Reeps like you Matt.
When I look at all the information listed herein, it is obvious that race and partisan hackery had a lot to do with Martinez losing to Rocco. If you cannot see that, you are myopic.
Jubal you forgot one….
Harry4anaheim@aol.com
Harry is very accessible…
Flowerszzz,
He might be accessible, but he has been dodging the Martin question until now.
I am sure that my readers will be posing the Martin question to Sidhu all day long.
I am equally curious as to where Mimi stands re Martin.
How can Harry be dodging the question if you refuse to ask him?
Why are you afraid to just ask him, Art?
Matt,
I never said I was afraid. But on that note, why are YOU afraid to write anything negative about Carona on YOUR blog? Hmmmm…
Fine. Here is my email to Sidhu:
Dear Mr. Sidhu,
I understand that you are running for the 33rd State Senate District, which includes a portion of the Anaheim Union High School District (AUHSD).
You may have heard that there is an effort underway to unseat racist AUHSD Trustee Harald Martin and to hold a special election to replace him.
Quite a few Republicans are supporting the ouster of Martin, including Anaheim Mayor Curt Pringle, Red County/OC Blog editor Matt Cunningham, O.C. Board of Education Trustee Alexandria Coronado, and Anaheim City School Board member James Vanderbilt. But I don’t know where you stand regarding the ouster of Martin.
Please let me know if you are going to support the ouster of Martin. Your counterpart in the 34th State Senate District, Lou Correa, is actively supporting the campaign to oust Martin. What about you sir?
I have written a blog post about this at http://www.orangejuiceblog.com. Please feel free to comment therein if you are so inclined.
Thank you,
Art Pedroza
Editor
Orange Juice!
Art – I hate to break it to you but the entire world of OC is not whirling around the Martin appointment. I support Jordan 100% however, when you have Los Amigos leading the charge….most will stay back from the cause…perhaps work in the background as it were.
I think it is quite silly of you to post this crap when you do not even have the cahones to contact either one of them yourself and get the answer. Come on Art…you are a “community leader”….quit being so lazy and do it yourself.
When I look at all the information listed herein, it is obvious that race and partisan hackery had a lot to do with Martinez losing to Rocco. If you cannot see that, you are myopic.
I’m sure most of Rocco’s voters were Republicans. I just wanted you to actually go through the exercise of trying to back up a claim.
But give the racist claims a rest. Your “evidence” in this reagrd is bogus and not even logicl.
Besides, OUSD currently has two Latino trustees Rick Ledesma and John Ortega — who have beaten white opponents every time they’ve been on the ballot. By your logic, that means OUSD voters are bigoted against Anglos.
Matt,
Did the Ed Alliance come out against Ledesma and Ortega? Were their opponents credible? Did Republicans back either Ledesma or Ortega? Are they Republicans? I don’t know either one of them to be quite honest.
Rocco’s victory was a total disgrace. I agree with you “most of Rocco’s voters were Republicans.” Add that to the list of things your party machine needs to apologize for…
Flowerszzz,
Why will most “stay back from the cause” because of Los Amigos? You don’t see Correa, Solorio, or Sanchez staying “back from the cause.” Could it be that a lot of your OC GOP machine friends don’t want anything to do with a group of mostly Latino activists?
Shame on the lot of you! Martin’s appointment was a complete abomination. The effort to oust him deserves total support from all corners.
And your support for the campaign matters not a bit. No one knows who the heck you are. It is not brave to lend support in an anon format. I respect your right to be an anon poster, but supporting the campaign without putting your name to it is useless. Send a check to the Los Amigos PAC and I will believe that you support the effort. I know you don’t live in Anaheim, so there is no use helping with the signature gathering as you cannot do it.
There, that wasn’t so hard was it?
Matt,
I look forward to saying the same thing when you finally start letting your readers know how corrupt Carona is.
Let’s see what Sidhu has to say for himself. I will be posting his response.
Did the Ed Alliance come out against Ledesma and Ortega?
EA opposed Ledesma in 2001, and I’m not sure about 2005.
Ortega is a teachers union candidate (as are most of the OUSD Trustees) and EA opposed him.
I agree with you “most of Rocco’s voters were Republicans.” Add that to the list of things your party machine needs to apologize for…
The “party machine” needs to apologize for those voters choosing to register as Republicans? Man, you do not even make sense anymore.
LOL – race baiting again I see. Los Amigos is very controversial and you know it. As for your criticizm of me and my support…you have no idea what I have or have not done. You have no idea how I am helping the effort BUT I can promise you I will not send any money to Los Amigos….ever. And you know why.
On that note I would like to see a copy of YOUR check you sent to Los Amigos….or are you just all talk here on the blogs.
By the way….good job on the e-mail to Sidhu. Not exactly the way I would have worded it but I am glad you stood up and asked yourself instead of whining about it here all day. Where is you e-mail to Mimi?
Flowerszzz,
I just sent Ms. Walters a similar email. I went to her website to find an email address for her and noticed that like most Reeps she also scapegoats immigrants. Let’s see if she has the courage to back the Martin ouster effort.
I am by the way sending a check to Los Amigos. I don’t know why you would not do the same. Didn’t you say you liked Mexicans? LOL You should have qualified that by saying you back SOME Mexicans. Aside from Bustamante, I cannot imagine which Mexicans you find to be palatable.
LOL…OK i do not like Los Amigos the organization because IMO they do not like white people and are race baiters. I said controversial before to be nice…silly me.
I look forward to seeing your name and $ amount listed on the PAC’s campaign statement.
Flowerszzz,
If you change your mind, and you ought to, send donations to
Greetings from greater Orlando.
Although I will not be on line over the next week I did notice this post and wanted to add my south Orange County observations.
We have had our hands full with the Capistrano Valley Unified School district ouster of the former superintendent and the Recall of school board members. While some of us spend too many hours following the political scene I doubt that anyone, other than Gila, has a clue about the Martin issue.
Sadly our concerns are simple. No crime and no potholes. Some may add don’t let our cable TV go out or let’s widen the freeways.
Larry G will be back on line when we return around Aug 22nd.
PS:
Dick Ackerman is our state senator representing the city of Mission Viejo.
Thanks Art but I am doing other things independent of Los Amigos to help. I do not get involved with racist organizations or people…just a silly little moral rule I have.
Flowerzzzz
You need to learn the difference between *available* and *accessible.*
Art posts a worthy question regarding Walters and Sindu’s position on the recall of Martin.
Walters and Sinhu are asking for our votes to place them in office,
it’s fair to hold them accountable as to where the stand regarding this matter.
It’s mind boggling that you pull the same lame excuse everytime you attack Art — race baiting. C’mon, you can do better, can’t you?
I really don’t give a hoot who you take photos with or why you won’t donate to Los Amigos. I’ve followed your posts on this blog for sometime and you don’t like Mexicans; it’s the undercurrent to your acid-tongue posts that gives you away. A wise Justice once said I don’t know how to define pornography, but I know it when I see it. I can smell your dislike of Mexicans, because it’s something I’ve lived with my entire life. Protest all you want, but I know it when I read it. You like our salsa, beer and tacos, but you certainly don’t like us as a people.
And who made you the blog czarina? Some of us care about what’s happening in AUSD. What’s happening at AUSD is not isolated.
Comprende?
La Voz…try reading again. I do care and as a matter of fact I am involved…just not via Los Amigos. I never said that the question should not be asked of Sidhu or Walters…I merely insisted that since art was here whining about it…he ask.
AS far as you saying I hate mexicans…you are certainly entitled to your opinion of me and I will not waste my breath on you on this subject. If you have followed my posts as you say – you would know what my opinions are on the subject. Yes I do have an acid tongue some of the time…so what? Perhaps the smell you are smelling is your upper lip.
Flowerszzz: I have no love lost for Los Amigos, but I wouldn’t classify them as a racist organization. Anti-conservative? Perhaps. But they have a lot of gabachos at their meetings that are in good standing–or at least they used to (haven’t been there in a while!)
“I do not get involved with racist organizations or people”
Flowerszzz,
How on earth do you come to the conclusion that Los Amigos is a racist organization? This is a ridiculous allegation.
Amin David is a kind and compassionate man. How dare you cast aspersions like that upon him.
Flowerzz,
Los Amigos is NOT a racist organization. If you actually attended one breakfast, you would see that for yourself. You accuse Art of throwing out baseless accusations, yet you throw one out yourself. Either back up your facts with valid points or apologize for your mistatement.
Claudio
Flowerzz suffers from root rot!
S/he hurls unfounded claims and when s/he’s called on it, runs, ducks, bobbs and weaves.
Back up your claims that Los Amigos is racist or shut up.
It is rather ironic that Flowerszzz was able to continually post regarding this subject until called out on the absurd claim that Los Amigos is a “racist” organization with “racist” people in it.
“Flowerszzz, come out come out wherever you are!!!”
Arturo and Jubal should just get a room… a well-known fact this kind of bickering is a mask for deep smoldering affection. Anyhoo as an outsider it seems pretty clear to me that the continued name-calling en Espanol by the “premier” bloggers here- pendejada-Arturo, gabacho-Gustavo – betrays a deep bitterness. Perhaps it borders on racism, although Razismo is not racism acc. to Gustavo in the OC weakly. I believe culture shapes a person far more than race, and that is why I oppose integrating Mexicans- I think their culture is exactly as portrayed by Gustavo in the Weakly. It is sad. I do hope you print this, perhaps I should send it over to some blogs that will.
Sean,
She mistakes Hispanic advocacy for hating white people.That is why she accuses Los Amigos of being a racist organization.
#39
Your comments about Spanish words sprinkled throughout this site are laughable!
Your leap to the conclusion that Gustvao and Art are bitter because they have the ability to slip from English to Spanish and visa-versa is ridiculous. In most cultures it is prized, and a mark of culture and distinction to speak two languages. Only in the U.S. is it frowned upon.
You are stuck in your monolingustic mode and discriminate against those who are bilingual.
You may oppose integrating Mexicans, but here’s a statistic for you to chew on. By the year 2020, in California, one member of every family will have a Hispanic as a family member. Yep, your grandbabies will be calling you abuelito.
Anon #39: You had me until you called my employer the OC “Weakly,” the lamest, most unimaginative insult possible. Seriously. By the way, are you bitter about your lot in life? Otherwise, you’d have the huevos to leave comments by your real name rather than use the comforting cloak of anonymity.
#39 is advocating isolation and/or elimination of the Mexican culture.In his/her opinion it is harmful.An example of this mentality was most recently done to another culture in a very dramatic and horrible manner in Nazi Germany.
#41
The point was that the words I referred to-pendejado and gabacho- printing their literal English translation would be considered distasteful. I hope the authors have experienced a real sense of liberation by giving themselves permission to address us all in this manner. Or is it resentment,righteous indignation, or some sociological construct over which they have no choice? The original subject was the dogpile going on over that poor forlorn target. Let’s all agree to get him!
LOL – well perhaps actually I had a REALLY busy and hectic day Sean….could that be an option? I realize you may have nothing better to do with your days but I have a business to run!
OK, OK maybe racist is a bit harsh…Art got me all wound up this morning and maybe I flew off the handle a bit. What I mean to say is that from my observations….they will go after anyone that says anything anti ILLEGAL immigration. They as Art does often, leave out the word ILLEGAL and just characterize them as immigrant haters…mexican haters. I am here to tell you that just because someone is anti ILLEGAL immigration does not mean they hate mexicans. I know MANY mexican americans that are anti illegal immigration. Does that make them mexican hating racists too?
Ohh and #39 do not rip on the Weekly or Gustavo. I believe he is helping bridge the gap between the cultures and is helping to create understanding in the mexican culture and I for one respect him for that.
Flowerszzz,
You and I both know it has little to do with the immigration status of these folks. The minuteman crowd attacks the culture and beliefs of these folks.
When attacks are being hurled at these folks one has no way of knowing whether they are here legally or illegally. All that people do know is that they have brown skin and from that they jump to the conclusion that they are in your words “illegal”.
One needs to look no further than the deportion of a U.S. citizen for no other reason than he was Latino to see that this rapid “anti-illegal” sentiment is nothing more than racism. They aren’t deporting white U.S. citizens by mistake are they?
When you hear the Lupe Moreno’s and Barbara Coe’s of the world speak you hear them talk about an attack on “our language”, “our culture” or “our way of life”. Well one needn’t be illegal to speak Spanish and yet this is one of the arguments put forth by those against “illegal’s”.
You can try and sugar coat it and say that you are only against “illegal’s”, but since you have no way of determining the citizenship status of these folks you are essentially engaging in “Mexican bashing”. That is unless you have some sort of special power that enables you to distinguish a legal resident from a non-legal resident.
Sean – I call BS on you and what you say…with regards to MY views!
Barbara Coe (who always reaks of alcohol) and Lupe Moreno do NOT speak for me. I am not anti illegal immigration because the majority are mexican. I LOVE the mexican culture and the way they are so close as families… something my family is missing for sure. In fact I am not even necessarily opposed to amnesty, it will get those that are here now paying taxes, and let them live fear free of being deposted if they run a red light…or if Art posts their place of employement and their story on this blog again like he did a few months back!
HOWEVER…I think that there needs to be a comprehensive solution to the immigration issues. And I am vehemently opposed to granting ANYONE with a criminal record any sort of citizenship whatsoever…and believe they should be deported at once. AS to the guy who was deported….where was his family? If he is that mentally ill….why did his family not pick him up from jail? It was an unfortnate mistake…and as far as I know has only happend once in how many years?
Illegal immigration is crippling our nation. Not because of what race they are, but because economically we can not sustain ourselves and them as well. Hospitals closing left and right, schools overcrowded, etc.
I understand their wanting to come here and not saying that I would not want the same for my family….but IMO they are not entitled to the same services and rights as US citizens. I do not go to a foreign country and expect them to teach my kids in english.
kudos to post 48.. we are losing the AMERICAN CULTURE in this land . you now have to push a button to get ENGLISH. we must adop to them not the other way around . they come to his country DEMANDING THINGS .. our country is also at fault for catering to these people . banks giving illegals credit cards . drivers test in spanish . menus in spanish , radio , tv , this gives them no insentive to join this country .
#49,
Speaking of the English language, you are butchering it with your pathetic grammar. From the looks of things you need a remedial spelling class my friend.