That was close, but — Diddy is safe! Repeat, Diddy is safe! (That’s more than Travis Kiger can say right now.)
They don’t come much closer than the Fullerton City Council election — a 29 vote margin — but now it’s over.
Presuming (and it’s a pretty fair presumption) that Lucinda Williams is right about today being the deadline, that’s it. No recount. It’s over. For those keeping score, that means I was wrong about another prediction about the race (although overall I’m still doing pretty well.)
That Dec. 4 Council meeting, though — I wonder what it will be like. Who will be Mayor? Who will be Vice-Mayor? Who will show up to comment and what will they have to say? What will be said back to them? Your thoughts are welcome in comments.
I think I can speak for the blog in saying that we’re glad that it’s over. Congratulations to the winner and to those who did not win but fought hard and well.
Talk about stooping to thier level!
You are officially a blogger in OC now! However dissapointing that may be!
What? What’d I say?
You don’t get it.
I guess you never will. That sucks.
Not only don’t I get it, I doubt that it even exists.
I see the FFFF site has made no mention of the election. We have yet to see i they can be as graceful in defeat as they can be boorish in victory. I know a lot of folks have mixed feelings about Flory, but I’m thinking she’ll be a lot more reasonable on the broad spectrum of issues, such as Coyote Hills, Fullerton is facing than Kiger would. As I said before, there was no benefit replacing one cabal (the old guard) with a new cabal. The libertarians will still be over-represented on Council through Whitaker and Sebourn, and Fitzgerald will bring a more moderating type of conservatism to the group. The discussions should be more lively, less antagonistic, and more productive. I wonder if FFFF will send in the troops to disrupt the meetings just to make her look bad. If so, that is doing a great disservice to the original intent of the recall movement.
“there was no benefit replacing one cabal (the old guard) with a new cabal”
Yeah but now the old cabal has been replaced with the new one of which has been replaced with elements of the old. Oy vey.
Also, I see no reason to believe that Flory is one whit better on Coyote Hills than any of the FFFF crowd. Nor for that matter do I expect Fitzy (cough chamber of commerce cough) to be any better either.
I do find it interesting that Ms. Fitzgerald cruised into the “moderate conservative” label even though she ran the most Libertarian city council campaign.
The term used was “moderating type of conservatism,” not moderate. In this instance, I think that matters.
As I think I’ve said before, I’d agree 50% with Team Tony and maybe 10% with the Ackermanite conservatives. So as a rule I consider libertarianism more “moderate” than right-wing business-oriented conservatism. However, one can be in one or the other camp and be more or less aggressive — that is, be moderating one’s agenda and intensity — in office.
Kiger was extremely aggressive and immoderate in his libertarianism. Sebourn is probably more conservative than Kiger, but tends to moderate it somewhat it practice.
Did she really run the most libertarian city council campaign? Come out for gay marriage and marijuana dispensaries, did she? I had thought her to be pretty much the opposite.
Sometimes, Dr. D. Sometimes . . .
Neither Mr. Kiger nor Mr. Whitaker has run on a platform that included any type of dispensary or any inclusion of marriage, so let’s chuck that straight away.
Ms. Fitzgerald did cherry pick a few populist Libertarian ideas like promising to decline any salary or benefits during her tenure as a councilwomen, she parroted back the “property rights” issue on WCH, and defined local government’s functions in very narrow terms.
Mr. Whitaker and Mr. Kiger got slapped with the “Libertarian” label by the public and haven’t said anything like this– so yes, she ran the most libertarian campaign.
Just making an interrogatory as to how the political barometer works in this town. It would appear that it’s based on whose camp you’re in and what t-shirts they wear. It wouldn’t appear to have anything to do with platform or policy– which is interesting, don’t you think?
I’m not saying that either of them did. I’m just saying that JenniFitz seems like a religiously based anti-libertarian, from what I can tell.
As a “traditional conservative,” she would of course share many libertarian ideas on economic policy. But you can’t call her libertarian if she holds draconian ideas on social policy.
I see declining salary and such as elitist, actually, as it means that only the wealthy can afford to serve.
I believe that Kiger and Sebourn self-identify as libertarian conservatives. I’m not the first or the most inclined to call them that.
I’m not calling her a Libertarian.
I’m stating she incorporated more elements from the Libertarian farm into her campaign platform than any other candidate running and find that interesting.
As long as Kiger is out Fullerton is in a better place. He was about to preach his support for dispensaries until he got the checkpoint stuff shoved right up his Ahole. He spoke out on that and it ruined his political career instantly. The more he spoke, the quicker his career ended. I’m glad he was able to speak at a few meetings. His intelligence was very clear and he ruined himself. Ruin couldn’t have happened to a better person. He also showed his true class when he didn’t show up to the last meeting. Pouting, whining, crying. Screw him. As they all said after the recall, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
That FFFF blog is full of hypocrites. They whine and cry about things the other side does, but when their side does it it’s all good. If it fits into their plan, it’s all good. If it doesn’t, then it’s a big huge conspiracy by everyone involved.
Just glad that blog is now almost dead. They have nothing to write on so they have to pull up old posts from years ago. They can’t touch the politics stuff now because their paid runners lost. Tony “smoke my joint” Bushala even finally realizes he wasted his cash and is done donating. He won’t even donate $20,000 for a recount.
Fullerton is in a much better place now and Fullerton can now move into the future with a positive outlook. Congrats to the Fullerton voters for overcoming someone trying to purchase Fullerton and having a councilperson with a preset agenda reeking havoc.
What did Kiger do that was so bad for Fullerton? Get rid of the H2O tax? Bring fireworks to the will of the voters and not in the mind or hands of some old ass, tired career politician like Blankhead or Dr. Jonesy? Kiger may not have been eloquent as to his stance or the libertarian stance on DUI checkpoints, but he did mention that checkpoints are often times spinning wheels (Buena Park proves that point) and really the root of the problem is less bars in downtown Fullerton.
As for someone trying to buy Fullerton. Dummy, the voters in Fullerton seem to be a bit more smarter than you give them credit for. They did not buy – for a minute – the 1.5 million spent by Chevron on Coyote Hills. So a hundred thousand from Bushala as a private citizen to support candidates or causes he believes in – politics in this country has seen so much worse.
Jan Flory is not good for Fullerton based on her first stint. She was fundraising actively against Fullerton’s summer recall, which was a MUCH NEEDED housecleaning. So on that alone, she is starting out in the red and has great work to prove that she is a capable councilwoman the second time around.
But you keep crowing about things you can possibly predict and grin a shit eating grin from ear to ear about victories you hardly have won, and as Diamond as pointed out a number of times on this blog and others, Flory and Chaffee have 2 years to change the culture of that council and bring about positive change and a working environment for the citizens of Fullerton. Two years, or Bushala and his money will most certainly fund candidates that will.
GREG DIAMOND FOR FULLERTON COUNCIL 2014!
Fireworks are directly related to Bushala. Kiger and his agenda had nothing to do with the will of the people. It was personal and per his buyer.
We just disagree. Kiger was terrible for Fullerton. The people saw through his agenda and voted for the better choice.
2 years is a long time. Winning now is plenty for now.
Agree. Greg would be great for any council. He would have to move to Fullerton first. He would actually enjoy the Booshala pressure and antics.
FFFF and Booshala could never admit defeat and congratulate anyone. Fireworks!! Then TNT can pay rent and kickbacks to Bushala for the building he owns that they rent from him. Always something in it for them. Imagine if someone on the other side owned a building that was rented by someone that would benefit from a city council action? Oh jesus. Dirty frickin people.
Looks like we broke this story at about the same time. But I actually spoke to Bushala at the Registrar’s office. http://ocpoliticsblog.com/kiger-wont-seek-a-recount-of-the-fullerton-council-election-results/
Damn shame that Kiger lost. But it’s not the end of the world. He’ll continue to make a difference in Fullerton, just not on the City Council.
*Happy Holidays Dr. Pedroza…..hope your Thanksgiving was wonderful. We think of you often here….but quietly as you can imagine. Yes, hopefully Travis will jump on board with Professor Bushala and keep the newly elected Council’s feet to the fire…..at least.
Anyway, God Bless and glad to see your clicks back here – in the hood.
just so i am not missing something, just where is fullerton and why is it important
It’s a Cal State University near Placentia that has won several NCAA baseball championships.
I thought it was a suburb of Brea.
Common misconception. Actually, both Brea and Fullerton are suburbs of the Brea Mall.
“Nick Cici” is actually a Pomona police union goon and serial liar named Patrick O’Malley. He is a personal friend of that creep Dave Ellis.
I am? Meet me at my shop Tony. I live and work in Fullerton. Come see me. Just because you wasted your money doesn’t mean you have to cry.
And spell my name right next time.
Ladies and Gents, let’s nip this in the bud, shall we? Keep the name calling on the other blog.
Mr. Ceci– there are 88 keys on your piano. Feel free to play more than one note.
Agree. Sorry. I get carried away at times with the tactics of that other blog and it can drive you crazy at times. I’ll behave now.
In your case it’s a short drive.
I’m completely nuts. Too much tile glue. I still get to vote.
Union goons and cops seem to be making a ton of money these days and this election didn’t change that. I guess I wouldn’t mind being him. My tile business has been surviving but not thriving.
The previous exchange of views notwithstanding, perhaps one of the most indicative things about the campaign is that when the media wanted to know something about Travis’ campaign, they called Tony.
I did get a whole lot of silence from Mr. Kiger’s e-mail address this time around. Interesting point.
Interesting point, especially since TB’s expenditures for Kiger were supposed to be independent and uncoordinated as a matter of law.
Anyone where think TB paid any attention to that?
They’ve been pretty good about that sort of thing; That oaf Larry Bennett kept referring them to the FPPC who kept kicking it back after finding nothing out of order, so..
Cash under the table does wonders.
Your new good behavior didn’t even last a half hour, woo!
Just saying. You don’t think that Bushala gave cash to Kiger for his campaign? Come on. Be realistic. It’s politics and it was a candidate whose only chance was behind the scenes manipulation. I mean, what was his track record? A few council meeetings that basically ruined his career? Just saying. I wasn’t being mean, just truthful.
Patrick O’Malley, serial liar. Please feel free to prove any of your false statements above.
Ok
I see you are bored now huh Travis? Maybe keep your O’Malley rants over at FFFF. You think everyone over there is O’Malley. Believe it or not, there are more people than just O’Malley that think you are nuts. Including me.
So cool. For so many reasons. Good luck Squirky! Socks forever! http://www.ocregister.com/news/fullerton-379055-quirk-silva.html
Saw wheat on December 1, 2012 at 2:58 pm
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Two Radio Calls for Service scenarios to choose from. Read each one completely then draw your own opinion and conclusions as to which one is fact and which is fiction.
Scenario # 1:
Week night 8:35 PM area of Downtown Bars and Transportation Center
Female cell phone caller from the Slidebar Lounge to the Police Desk – stating someone is prowling the cars in the rear parking lot.
Caller describes the subject as pulling on vehicle door handles and pressing his face against the vehicle windows to peer inside the vehicle.
Caller describes the subject as a “transient” providing a clothing description.
Caller provides a description of what the subject has in his possession.
Caller provides last known direction of travel as towards the OCTA Bus Docks
Caller leaves the area prior to arrival of the Police
Police arrive, LOCATE, and make contact with the described subject later identified as Kelly Thomas….
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Scenario #2:
Week night 8:35 PM area of Downtown Bars and Transportation Center
Female cell phone caller from the Slidebar Lounge to the Police Desk – stating someone is prowling the cars in the rear parking lot.
Caller describes the subject as pulling on vehicle door handles and pressing his face against the vehicle windows to peer inside the vehicle.
Caller describes the subject as a “transient” providing a clothing description.
Caller provides a description of what the subject has in his possession.
Caller provides last known direction of travel as towards the OCTA Bus Docks
Caller leaves the area prior to arrival of the Police
Police arrive, LOCATE and contact the described subject later identified as … TONY BUSHALA
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WHICH ONE IS FACT AND WHICH ONE IS FICTION???? (Answer Below)
Helps and Hints:
Both have female callers as the informants
Both have described transients as involved
Both are at the OCTA Bus Docks
Both are early weekdays
Both are during dark hours
ANSWER: BOTH ARE FACT
Last night, Tuesday Tony Bushala was found trying door handles and pressing his face up against parked car windows in the Slidebar Lounge parking lot. The informant witness him as described above. She hit her car alarm to see Tony look towards the Slidebar then move to a nearby car doing the same action. Tony was dressed as Transient (as described by the witness) when found at the OCTA Bus Dock.
By the Grace of God a seasoned Officer took the call finding the described “transient” recognizing him as Fat Tony. Tony had his hands in his pockets facing the officer as he approached. When addressed by name Tony seemed surprised and started to stammer. The Officer also saw a “lay off” person with a camera nearby the Kelly Thomas memorial slime garden display area.
The calling informant was contacted. She had no relationship to the call other than Fat Tony was prowling her vehicle which caused her to call the police. She said the subject was quite bold (attention getting) in the way he was prowling the lot…..
The Officer said there was NO DOUBT in his mind that Fat Tony was trying to set up a younger Officer who did not know him. He said Tony would have agitated the Officer and “taken one for the team” to get the officer provoked.
Did a Crime Occur ?? In MY day YES, post Kelly Thomas NO.
This just shows what a Rat Bastard, Bottom Feeding, Slime Ball, Sum Bitch Fat Tony is. He has kicked Kiger to the curb so THIS was going to be his big Blog story instead of paying for a vote recount …. Cheap Bastard!!
And so it CONTINUES in Fullerton.