Tell me if this sounds familiar to you. Aurora is the third largest city in Colorado, part of the same metropolis as Denver, of which it is half the population. It’s technically a suburb, but has grown to the point where it rivals its larger neighbor. It’s renowned for its golfing and sports. Residents of Orange County would likely feel at home there. And, like here, last night was projected to be a big night at the movies, with the midnight premieres of what was expected to be one of (perhaps the) top grossing movie of the year, The Dark Knight Rises.
By now, most of you have probably heard of the attack. A lone gunman, age 24, following the great American tradition of entering the theater through the emergency exits. But this was different: he had tear gas smoke bombs, a gas mask, and three firearms. He mowed down people — at least 14 dead, more than 50 wounded — in a manner that we’ve become familiar with from spree killings like Columbine and Virginia Tech. In a tragic way, we’re almost used to stories of school shootings by now; this was something different.
Maybe there have been spree killings at movie premieres before that I just don’t remember, just as that I know that Columbine was not the first high school shooting and Virginia Tech not the first college shooting. But this has the feel of opening up a new genre, transforming a relatively harmless social custom — kids and adults staying up past midnight to be among the first to enjoy non-preview showings of the next big movie, along with the bragging rights that come with it later in the day at school or in the office.
My children enjoy midnight premieres and it will be a long time before the next one is not tinged by the memory of what happened in Colorado last night. The goal of the shooter, whose name I know but will not mention, was presumably to have an impact on our psyche. Well, it will have worked. That in turn will stimulate others to come up with a topper, to take some cherished and relatively innocent social custom of ours and turn it into a bloodbath, to impose memories of one’s destructive power on future moviegoers for weeks, months, years; to hijack the fame of the Batman series and inject one’s own poison eggs into it, set to hatch in countless future minds at countless future times. That, for some, is power worth having.
I received a letter yesterday from the California Rifle and Pistol Association, with a return address in Fullerton, with a campaign questionnaire and an exhortation to join their cause. I think that the Supreme Court decision from four years ago has settled the question of whether gun ownership for purposes of self-defense is a fundamental right. Justice Scalia’s opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller was crafted to have enough holes and escape hatches in it as to still allow for considerable roll-back of the right in a similar manner to how “time, place, and manner” restrictions roll back First Amendment rights and all sorts of Supreme Court decisions have rolled back our Fourth Amendment rights against search and seizure.
So today, of course, I’m thinking about gun control. I’m reminded of how the situation in the Aurora Century 16’s Theater 9 was supposed to work, in the theory of gun control opponents. People in the audience at the premiere should have been carrying concealed weapons. When the shooter released his tear gas and started firing, one or more of the audience members was supposed to pull out their weapon and shoot the bastard before he could do much further harm. In fact, the prospect that someone would do so is supposed to have deterred the shooter from ever showing up bent on destruction in the first place, and Aurora’s midnight premiere would have passed as just a happy memory of the crazy things we do.
That’s the theory.
Rewind and play out the events of last night a thousand times each of many variations — with strict gun control overall, with strict gun control not overall but in places like theaters, with concealed carry allowed, with concealed carry encouraged, with concealed carry mandatory — and I’m sure that in some of the more pro-gun scenarios (mandatory carry being the most extreme) the shooter gets killed early on and lives are saved. Yet I find this unsatisfying. It’s an incomplete story.
Play out the scenario and sometimes an innocent person (maybe engaged in street theater?) gets shot. Sometimes the people who get shot in the melee of screaming and trampling outnumber the lives that would be saved. (And, of course, in any given case we rarely know how many people would have been killed in the absence of armed resistance.) Sometimes, the solution of everyone having guns deters this problem but creates new ones, as when a conflict about something minor like cutting in line or a fender-bender escalates to become deadly. You, dear reader, could no doubt resist the temptation to use your firearm in anything but a righteous and upstanding way, but will others be so prudent? Will they, knowing that you are allowed, encouraged, or even mandated to carry a gun, be more likely to shoot to disable you before you get the drop on them? A lot could go right and a lot could go wrong.
What bothers me is that, as is often the case in politics, the facile and simplistic position is especially attractive. For some people, upon hearing of this massacre, that’s going to be a call for gun control. For others it will be a call for more and more concealed carry permits (or for overall permission.) Right now, opponents of gun control are winning — they try harder and are more willing to be single-issue voters. OK, that’s our political culture, hard as it is to explain to those from other lands. But is it too much to ask for people who favor gun rights — or their expansion, as with concealed carry laws — to take the problems seriously and work with those who suffer as a result of these massacres?
I understand the fear of firearms advocates that even thinking about scenarios such as the ones I present above invites greater government regulation and sacrifice of freedom. The notion that concealed carry is a cure-all, a guaranteed tonic for what ails our society, is appealing in its simplicity. But unless we truly believe that — and I expect that many in Orange County do not, or at least would not if this tragedy had occurred at one of our megaplexes — then we do need to discuss how we ward off this sort of thing. I see a lot of waving the problem away as inconvenient to solve and dangerous the consider — and this morning that just does not seem good enough. I would like Second Amendment advocates to rise to the occasion, with appropriate concern and better suggestions than just “arm everyone everywhere.”
Our sympathies, as usual, go out to those touched by this tragedy.
George Zimmerman…..a reason why firearms get a bad name. Did Zimmerman have a license to carry? The new guy…24 years old…from San Diego. A gas can, Explosives, Grenades….Body Armor….and “a firearm”. An Explosive Booby Trap in
his house. This is no situation where someone just got access to a firearm by buying it
on E-Bay!
All the firearm laws in the world…cannot prevent “The nutcase Brevik in Norway!” nor this SD 24 year old – wanting to be his own Seal Team Six! What were the parents doing in both cases?
The suspected “lone-wolf” shooter of the Batman movie theater massacre in Aurora, Colo. was a student at the ultra left wing University of Colorado. The University of Colorado also gave us the notorious professor Ward Churchill. Churchill taught his students that 9/11 victims as “little Eichmanns” who were not casualties of terrorism, but legitimate “military targets.” His views were part of his teaching and the University of Colorado gave him tenure. The alleged killer at the Batman movie is University of Colorado’s PhD student James Holmes, who recently withdrew from his neuroscience studies at the University. http://boomerspeaks.com/X-ProperPre/LibLiesAurora.htm
already of course that so called MEDIA is trying to link this guy to the tea party . moe n likely on mslsd im sure they will edit their story to look like that .. these guys are great at doing that SEE THEIR PAST HISTORY ..
You’re useful, Juan, if only to tell us how the right-wing is spinning and distorting this.
Here’s a good story from ABC with more background from the shooter: http://abcnews.go.com/US/mass-shooting-colorado-movie-theater-14-people-dead/story. Some excerpts:
A Facebook friend (who I believe has posted here in the past) wrote:
If the implication of your comment is that rather than gun control, we need Ward Churchill control, the University of Colorado already fired him in 2007 (and was spared damages in his lawsuit only because a court found that they had immunity.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Churchill
I doubt that Holmes (who had been a doctoral student in neuroscience) was under the influence of Ward Churchill.
he was under the influence of a guy named diamond
OMG — you’re not going to tell anyone, are you?
Since we’re talking about being under the influence, whenever I read one of the Micro-Grater’s posts, this guy from “Blazing Saddles” always comes to mind.
One good turn …
In the Grating Juan’s warped mind, because Ward Churchill taught at U of C, that means that U of C is an “ultra left wing” University. One person paints the entire institution.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…you could benefit from a class in basic logic, Grating One.
no the warped mind is more n likely you anon you might have been one of ward churchills kids
*We are more concerned about the eye witness reports of someone getting a phone call and then go over to the front exit…..and doing something. Then 15 minutes later the shooter comes in. Was the shooter the guy that took the phone call and went over to the Exit – to prop open that entry point? Or was it an accomplice? Or was a stupid
Theater Employee who thought they was a delivery before the show started?
This is definitely a tragedy and will probably happen again. Americans love their guns, most are probably responsible gun owners. I seriously doubt we will ever have a any kind of gun control law that will do anything to stop these kinds of tragedies. People are unpredictable. We cannot stop someone who is dead set on doing something like this unless they announce their intentions via social media. From what I read about people who kill, they rarely give advance warning.
No matter what side of this argument one stands, I am sure we can all agree this was horrible.
*The Brevick case in Norway is a classic example of what you are talking about. Norway has some of the most restrictive firearms laws in the world. It didn’t stop Brevick nor did it stop the Aurora Shooter…who set up those lovely Booby-traps
which have nothing at all ……to do with firearms.
Whether or not it stopped Brevick isn’t the point, you’re tossing a false choice at us, as if anyone is saying more restrictive gun laws will stop mass murders and gun deaths…anyone knows it won’t stop them completely.
Where you have to go digging is GUN DEATHS PER CAPITA. The key question becomes; Do more restrictive gun laws drive DOWN the gun deaths per capita?
Not, they do not!. Chicago has the most strictive gun control in USA, and look how bad is, that more people die there than Afganistan and Irak’s war together. I have not see any politician include our president say anything about it. Is this may be because most of the victims and perpetrators are African-American and they(politicians) do not care about blacks?.
anon – Seriously, your answer is – it all depends on the particular State and the Crime Stats. We will give you the best example: Pennsylvania. Mostly rural…..Amish and others you know. Lot’s of farm land and low crime. Then you have Philly….oops and the other urban areas which have lots of drugs and crime and murders. If you have very restrictive laws against Assault Style Weapons…..it probaby wouldn’t make much
difference. Then there is Ohio……lots of urban areas and some farming communities, but mostly urban sprawl. Certain Gun Laws may work to keep the numbers of certain types of firearms down….like in Illinois where you need an actual Firearms License to purchase any firearm.
All in all, Firearms Laws for the Aurora Shooter……wouldn’t have mattered at all. This guy will be the typical self described victim of society….striking a symbolic bolt of lightning against society. All bull….all the time! He is an honor student that found out when he went to Grad School that the system sucks and is paid off by Big Pharma….or whatever excuse he can come up with – No girls on the Internet liked him perhaps….
He knew he never would be part of the 1%…..things like that maybe.
No more gun laws…….especially when he is more into Explosive Devices and other things….like the Uni-Bomber…….please….
I’m not talking about state-by-state…I’m talking about different countries…THOSE are the per capita statistics that matter.
For starters check out the per capita statistical differences between us and Great Britain.
I am agree with you, no fire arm law will never stop any crazy or not to get them and use. Now beside how many people had die because shootings like this, I’m pretty sure that MORE people had survive because someone had a gun and prevet the bad guys to use against good citizens with all the right of self defense.
Anon – We grasp you concept….the major problems with all stats for three-fold. First of all in the study of geometry they call it “Congruency” – likes for likes. Name three countries with 320 Million people that have a very diverse multi-cultural and ethnic population. Norway – NO. Romania – NO. Germany – NO. France – NO. Pakistan – NO. India – Closer. China – Closer. Russia – used to be closer. Get the idea. Unfair comparisons….additionally, you need similar educational backgrounds. How many folks read and write and have graduated from at least junior high school?
*Oddly, one of the best comparisons between the United States and other foreign
countries is Yugoslavia. Serbia, Kosovo, Montenegro, Croatia…..in the old days
when all these folks were together had a real economy before Clinton bombed
everyone….and they had a multi-cultural society that fit ours…as close at it gets.
Sorry we can’t come up with a great solution. It certainly isn’t Canada or Mexico
is it? How about Brazil or Argentina…..NO – not them either. The Phillipines and
Indonesia are not a good fit either!
Face it, we have a unique system and a unique country. Our country was founded
by intelligent folks. Too bad we don’t have as many as we need anymore..eh?
I’m sorry, but per capita statistical analysis mostly evens out those differences.
You can sit there and pick ethnically homogenous countries. And I can pick some that are not. You can choose to ignore the ones which are not, which is apparently what you’d like to do.
And don’t forget…YOU are the ones who mentioned Norway and Breivik, as if it’s some sort of equivalency.
Anon – Jimmy boy…..was using the Brevick parlance specifically. If he could have blown up the Denver Mint….first…he just might have. Our bet is that he read the Brevick Manifesto and the Uni-Bomber Scrolls. What do they say about Firearm Statistics? They never include the “Deranged Mentality” as part of the equation.
This guy was a couple of bottles short of a six pack. But hey, maybe he just got his first “B” on a quick quiz and spun out…..
In any event, we doubt you count him as any part of normal firearm crime stats.
“Normal” firearm crime stats? What the hell is that?
Get a grip, my friends. The United States has a very specific statistic with regard to gun deaths per capita. So does every other country. Being crazy doesn’t mean one isn’t part of that statistic…it includes everyone, crazy or not. They all used a gun. Gun deaths per capita…can you just grasp that simple concept?
And where were the local police while this lunatic was killing innocent people. In Fullerton, it took six police officers to beat an unarmed homless man to death. In Laguna Niguel, traffic officers hide behind walls to give citations to motorists in order to raise revenue for the City. It’s about time police departments deploy their officers when and where they are needed.
Eddie, the cops were there in 90 seconds. What do you want, one sitting on your lap?
You are right though in complaining about cops in Laguna Niguel hiding behind walls and in the bushes to shake people down for money.WTF
Beat me to it. I’m surprised that that statement survived unrebutted for as long as it did.
Take away other sources of revenue and cities will rely on fines, as I’ve been saying for years now. (I think I said it first on Calitics.)
*Anon – we agree with Eddie Rose…..How many donuts does it take per day to weigh
over 260 lbs….when you are 5′ 8″ tall? Now that is a statistic we might consider.
We learned about statistics in 1959 – “Lies, damn lies and statistics!” Isn’t that the first thing you learn in college? After that, if you like statistics….you go to work on
Actuarial Tables for Banks, Insurance Companies and Health Providers. You also can set up LIBOR percentage points and create what might be reasonable – If you want to make a Trillion dollars a day for banks around the Globe!
Statistics! What do they say? “Whose counting?” More wisdom in that statement
than most might admit.
Yeah, I know…facts are a bitch.
*Anon – Yep, exactly our point – whose facts? Yours? Or the ones you believe?
Wherever there is a major event (whether it be a sporting event, a rock concert, a movie premiere, etc.), there needs to be some police presence to pre-empt the potential for violence—of any kind. Having even one or two police officers in attendance at the Aurora theater may have prevented some of the carnage. This is infinitely better than seeing the police pat each other on the back for their “rapid response” after the fact.
Because of budget cuts to the Aurora Police Department back in 2008, having officers at every movie premiere probably isn’t an option.
Send your thank you note to Wall Street.