“Mexican citizens living in California could use a controversial identification card issued by the Mexican government for business transactions under legislation introduced by Orange County State Sen. Lou Correa,” according to the O.C. Register.
“The Santa Ana Democrat’s proposal, Senate Bill 461, would allow notaries in California to accept Matricula Consular cards as valid identification for executing property transfers and other official transactions.”
Wow. This is another brave move by Correa. And it is a welcome one. In these troubled times it can only help to give folks more financial options.
I can only hope that President Barack Obama will also push for another Amnesty. That would allow thousands of people to come out of the shadows so they could become taxpayers and start moving up the socio-economic ladder. This influx of new citizens might save the Ponzi scheme that is Social Security, at least for a few more years.
Here is how Correa put it, “These are difficult economic times. We’re going to make decisions, we’re going to do things we would not normally do, for the sake of keeping jobs.”
You sure don’t see that kind of leadership from the O.C. Republican legislators, state or federal. And consider that Supervisor Janet Nguyen’s big news today was the $170,000 that she spent on the construction of clay tennis courts for Santa Ana Mayor Miguel Pulido, over at Cabrillo Park.
Correa stands with the people – God only knows what his Republican counterparts stand for, if anything.
Correa stands with the people
He sure does! The people are so grateful for the double VLF fee and higher sales tax! If Lou stands with the people any more, we won’t have any money left!
BTW, can you be any more obsequious?
“obsequious” – is that a synonym for KA?
I am pretty certain that Lou can propose anything he would like to now. He cannot hurt his re-election possiblities any worse than he already has – the damage has been sufficient.
LOU, LOU, LOU….there goes your future in CA
Politics. We thought for sure you were destined
for bigger office at the State level. Don’t you
get it? NO OC Elected….can support those bogus,
knock off “Viva Mexico” candy wrappers and expect to keep the great grey undermass that secretly vote for you even though they are, should we dare
say: “Republicans!” This is a great idea to drop in your nearest “FILE 13″ as soon as possible!
junior I thought you were outta here.
This has to be the longest goodbye in recorded history.
Winships said: “LOU, LOU, LOU….there goes your future in CA Politics.”
I believe that Lou has seen that there is not much of a future in California politics for him. He will very happy to get back to the OC.
He probably got a wink and a nod from “the powers that be” for a cushy appointed CA government position (if he even runs for re-election)in exchange for his vote to increase the tax burden on Californians.
Good job Lou!
He will have my support and my vote now and in the future.
If we get this passed the next move should be a push to support Gil Cedillo’s quest for driver licenses.
Junior,
The OC GOP has no one who can take out Lou.
And Latino voters know better than to vote for the party that hates them.
Wow..so what is Lou going to flip on his stance on drivers licenses for people here illegally.
I was at an event a few years back where Lou spoke out AGAINST drivers licenses for folks that were here illegally.
I guess Lou flipped on his stance in 2004. I am way behind..haha
Now I need to remember the date of the meeting he spoke at.
Danielle,
Elected officials should be free to alter their views, when presented with compelling arguments or new data.
Unlicensed drivers tend to hit and run, for fear of being caught.
Training and licensing would improve public safety.
I too changed my view on this issue and I applaud Lou for showing once more that people come first in his book.
“The OC GOP has no one who can take out Lou.”
How about Jeanette Nguyen?
Lou’s margin of victory over his republican opponent was VERY thin – that is why he had to promise to not vote to raise taxes.
There is a Reep who can defeat Lou Correa. He has opened up the field.
#11, Art:
Indeed. Not giving them DLs is counterproductive and just costs all of us more.
Shame on the Reeps to oppose DLs for undocumented people.
Junior,
Janet Nguyen? The Supervisor who just gave Miguel Pulido almost two hundred thousand dollars to build his personal clay tennis courts?
At this point I don’t think Janet can even win reelection, much less take out Correa.
What a bonehead, and to think I voted for Lou. Never again. It’s time for a change. The last thing we need is to make the illegals think they don’t have to follow the law and become citizens. I’ll bet 95% of them don’t even know how.
Lou is a very good politician. He sees that the public is middle of the road. Conservative on some issues and liberal on others.
The Democratic partiy in general has positioned themselves accordingly.
The GOP is gasping because the right wing leadership will sink the ship sooner than later if they do not swing more to the middle.
Those criticising Lou are Partisan hard core Reps – the minority. This minority was not responsible for Lou’s election. They would never vote for a Democrat with a Republican challenger in the race even if he was saying he would not vote for tax hikes. What did that matter any way – his Republican challenger was saying the say thing in line with her party.
His difficulty in the re-election was more to do with the Democratic party having issues with Lou for leaving the Orange County Supervisor position.
He is doing the sensible thing. This will make him into something of a folk hero in the Hispanic community and in the business community that employs and services these residents.
Concerned Citizen,
Are you suggesting that these folk are geneticaly incapable of figuring out how to apply for citizenship?
Dr. Lomeli,
You are so right. Lou is a terrific representitive and I am glad to live in his district.
The only folks trying to make hay out of this are the right-wing.
Should Lou run for office again locally he will win.
Just an FYI, I voted for Lou in the past.
I will not because I do not live in Santa Ana anymore.
Lou is “cooked” in OC and he knows it – or he would not have come out in favor of this issue – he is not as brave as you say he is.
The electorate is not middle of the road when it comes to raising taxes OR keeping your word.
Read my lips “I will not vote to raise your taxes.” – signed Lou Correa.
This is what the OC Reg had to say concerning the then on-going budget tussle:
“And then there’s Correa, who narrowly defeated Republican Lynn Daucher for State Senate in 2006 on the strength of his public promise not to vote for a tax increase. In a district spanning Santa Ana and Anaheim, where Democrats hold but a slim majority, Correa could lose re-election if voters believe he broke his promise. Also, labor unions, which oppose the plan, could turn their backs on Correa if he votes yes on the budget.”
And add the matricular cards on top of that! Prospects of re-election for LC are not looking very promising.
This is what Art Pedroza had to say in June of 2008 concerning Lou Correa’s 2010 elction possibilities:
“I wonder if the recent scandal about the money Correa accepted from noted “Talibani” Republican Howard Ahmanson, who is funding a ballot measure to overturn gay marriage in California, will blow up in Correa’s face – given that Daucher is socially more liberal than Correa. Daucher would not likely take Ahmanson’s money.”
“I hope Daucher does run again. … As for Correa, he still is in trouble with the Vietnamese community, especially after his brother in law, Edgardo Reynoso, tanked unsuccessful supervisorial candidate Hoa Van Tran’s campaign with a plethora of cholo staffers.”
“Round two between Correa and Daucher should be very interesting…”
And that is what you had to say Art BEFORE Lou broke his tax pledge and came out in support of metricular – should be very interesting indeed.
art lomeli said: “Those criticising Lou are Partisan hard core Reps – the minority. This minority was not responsible for Lou’s election. They would never vote for a Democrat with a Republican challenger in the race ..”
Mr. Lomeli – I am a Republican and I have been a Lou Correa supporter for years. Ask him yourself – ask Art Pedroza.
I cannot support Lou after he broke his tax pledge.
As Dr. Lomeli pointed out in his earlier comments, during the last election the Democrats were not solidly behind Lou. Some were angry about what they saw was a broken promise to stay on the BOS and some were still angry after the primary battle with Umberg.
Last time the Reep candidate was the moderate Lynn Daucher so many Dems had no problem crossing over and supporting her.
The Dems will stand solidly behind Lou in the next election and he should win by a much wider margin.
I can only hope the Reeps throw a Talibani against Lou. That will be no bueno for them if they do. Jubal and company won’t rally behind a moderate. Just ask Daucher.
Sean said: “… the Democrats were not solidly behind Lou. Some were angry about what they saw was a broken promise to stay on the BOS and some were still angry after the primary battle with Umberg.”
Weak Sean – very weak. Those were minor points – not much effect when compared to promising to not raise taxes and metricular.
junior,
I simply am aghast that you have turned on Lou, after all he did to help battle the Renaissance Plan.
But then you turned on me too…
junior,
I am quite sure that the Dems will stand behind Lou. These “no tax” pledges are just plain silly. When faced with the budget problems that California is sometimes you have to change. Lou put the good of the state ahead of political self-interest. True leadership in the time of crisis by Lou.
The issue of the matricular consular cards is only a major issue with the Jim Gilchrist crowd of which you appear to be a member.
Art,
I am not surprised that junior turned on Lou. This appears to be standard operating procedure by him.
wow…i’ve never seen so many blowhard posts…and it’s coming from all angles.
Lou is a smart politician (wait..is that an oxymoron?). This is a good thing. Whatever the reason be, it will help those who are all to often marginalized and forced to live on the fringe. Kudos Lou!
The one constant in all political equations here is Pedroza’s support will guarantee a Correa loss.
Junior,
Taxes and the matricula are issues only to you the GOP minority right wing Republicans.
My comment was – to not worry about right wing Republicans supporting Lou. They do not support any Democrat in the first place.You answered I supported Lou.Are you a right wing Republican that supported Lou? Or are you a Republican that supported Lou, as I did ?
In any case, you will now be an outcast within your Republican group based on their recent established philosophy for Republicans supporting Democrats.
Taxes alone is no longer an issue for elections. Immigration is not either. The last election showed this.
Many Republicans(general voters not electeds) voted for Obama. Other issues than raising taxes are more important to voters in the greater picture of our Country.
Taxes under dire situations to correct economic damage, with accountability, is palatable to many of us non elected non partisan hack Republicans.
Our Governor, other State electeds and Lou are doing the responsible thing.
They are looking at the big economic picture. Right wing Republican hacks are dug into their mioptic public out of touch agenda.
Lou fought to same your business from the SAnta Ana Renaissance Plan.
Now that you no longer support Lou.What right wing Republican elected official will fight for you when Santa Ana starts the Renaissance Plan again?
curious,
If you think these mild posted comments are “blowhard” – you have not been around this blog very long.
Art & Art,
Who said I oppose the Renaissance Plan? I have not gone on record as opposing the plan per se – only the fairness of it’s implementation.
art lomeli,
Some of your comments may be valid on a statewide basis, but not so much in Orange County.
art loeli asked the question: “… .Are you a right wing Republican that supported Lou? Or are you a Republican that supported Lou, as I did ?”
I am a conservative Republican who supported Lou when he stood for not raising taxes on Californians.
It is not I who turned on Lou – it is Lou who turned away by not keep his pledge.
Junior,
I did not say you appose the Renaissance Plan. I said Lou advocated for your business to be saved from the plan that wished to rid the area of businesses like yours.
So you not supporting Lou now – can Lou not support the fairness of your business existing within the Renaissance Plan due to you not keeping your pledge of support for him?
What is worse for you?
- Raising your taxes due to Lou’s vote.
- Eliminating your business due to Lou not fighting for the Renaissance Plan to be fair and allow your business to stay.
We evidently weren’t writing Lou enough. He let
someone tie his shoelaces together…….some things you just can’t do. Drivers Licenses for illegals and accepting those bogus “Get out of jail free cards” from the street vendors on Broadway! Lynn Daucher? Nah! Janet ….maybe
can do…maybe the time for an Asian female hit
lady? Let’s just say…he was in a very safe
District….that just got a little flaky! Maybe
he will wake up and just let this baby drop down his File 13 toilet – and save his career!
nothing but illegals in santa ana they cant vote
Why being “racist” and only propose validity to a matricular consular for mexicans?. The appareance of doing this for only ONE GROUP confirms your racism!.
Do the right thing!. If should be for any illegal in this state!
BTW I’m agree with # 35.
Since Amertica is known for being “the melting pot” everybody that comes to this country should have whatever they want,no?.
Lou’s proposal is about beign practical and looking after the economic best interests of the voters.
The undocomented work and spend greattly affecting the econony, indeed contributing to the health of this country’s economy.
The matricular card would enable these individuals to better contribute to the economy. If here facilitate the positive.
They drive and can’t get ins. A drvers licence gets them ID’ed properly, show ability to drive, obey the traffic laws and would be able to get ins.
This protects us all and is better than the current negatives of not having a drivers licence.
Any one can buy stuff, get a job, patronize businesses ect. wether you are documented or not. Why not have the ability to get proper ID, drive and buy insurance. I feel safer this way than they not having those abilities.
It is just sensible and practical considering they are here because we employ them.
The Department of Justice and the FBI have concluded that the Matricula Consular is not a reliable form of identification due to the inadequacy of means of verifying the true identity of the card holder.
http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress03/mccraw062603.htm
Lou’s bill could be the way to identifiy security flaws and produce security safegaurds with the matricala card, obtain support to possibly get Government ID cards or facilitate getting a drivers licence where the US government can control the security safegaurds.
The issue with the study presented by Junior is strictly a terrorism concern resulting from the 9-11 terrorism event. This concern is – Middle Eastern terrorist using the matricula card to get false ID to hide and manipulate financial institutions to send money to the Taliban.
I dont understand this concern. Why would terrorist place money in banks in the US then get false ID’s to send the money back, when if they have the money from there supporters, instead by- pass the USA banks and same themselves this headache. I believe this might only happen rarely.
In a non terrorism threat condition this argument is mute.
dl for illegals? madness. they should fear driving here, not be encouraged
Art L said: “In a non terrorism threat condition this argument is mute.”
Right you are Art – BUT, you had better try to convince the Federal and State government that we are not in a terrorism threat condition.
With current Homeland Security laws, in order to consummate many financial transactions, verifiable identification is required.
*The bottom line is that Lou has created some
controversy….when he didn’t need any. Now,
everyone will be looking at anything he does.
Dumb…really! He could have had someone else
put their name on the legislation and just
supported it….quietly…instead…..Yuck!
What is it with you people? He is darned if he does and darned if he doesn’t. He is the only elected offical who has managed to bring our tax dollar back to Orange County!I have seen 25 years of others trying to do just that and failed.
It is time we forgot about partisan labels and looked at those who actually produce. That would be Lou Correa.
By the way, what part of illegal don’t you understand? His legislation is for LEGAL immigrants.
I am fed up with both parties! That is why I am now DTS and vote only for results.
This is for DTS – from the OC Reg article:
“The Mexican government, through its consulate offices, issues Matricula Consular photo ID cards to Mexican nationals living outside of their country, regardless of their emigration status.”
“The cards have a reputation for being easily forged and are criticized as the ID of choice for illegal immigrants.”
Correa’s legislation apparently is not restricted to LEGAL immigrants. So what say you now DTS?
Junior,
Correa’s legislation is not restricted to illegal immigrants either, or to Mexicans only.
WHY NOT PASSPORT??????????????