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There is an op-Ed in today’s New York Times that everyone — and I mean everyone — ought to read before claiming that they can express an informed opinion on the use medical marijuana. Author Marie Myung-Ok Lee, who teaches writing at Brown University, writes about her mother-in-law being in the horrific late stages of pancreatic cancer. As Lee explaints, her mother-in-law “had only one good day, and that was the day she smoked pot.”
For the past month, we’d been trying to get her to eat anything: fresh-squeezed carrot juice made in a special juicer, Korean rice gruel that I simmered for hours, soups, oatmeal, endless cans of Ensure. Sometimes she’d request some particular dish and we’d eagerly procure it, only to have her refuse it or fall back asleep before taking a bite. But this time she sat down at her favorite restaurant and ordered a gorgeous meal: whitefish poached with lemon, hot buttered rolls, salad — and ate every bite.
Then she wanted to go to Kimball’s, a local ice cream place famous for cones topped with softball-size scoops. The family had been regular customers starting all the way back when my husband and his brother were children, but they hadn’t been there since her illness. My husband and I shared a small cone, which we could not finish, and looked on in awe as my mother-in-law ordered a large and, queenishly spurning any requests for a taste, polished the whole thing off — cone and all — and declared herself satisfied.
We were of course raring to make the magic happen again, but it never did. The pot just frightened her too much. She was scared her friend would be arrested for interstate drug trafficking, that my husband and I would be mugged in New Haven; she was afraid she’d become addicted or (à la “Reefer Madness”) go insane. It was difficult watching her reject something that had so clearly alleviated her nausea and pain and — let’s admit it — lightened her mood in the face of the terrible fact that cancer had invaded nearly every essential organ. And it was even worse to watch her pumped, instead, full of narcotics that made her feel horrible. The Percocet gave her a painfully dry mouth, but even ice chips made her heave. We were reduced to swabbing her lips with little sponges dipped in water, and waiting out her agony.
Someday, most likely, President Obama is going to write his memoirs of his Presidency. Hopefully that will be in a more enlightened time. He will, I’ll bet, explain that he had to do what he did out of (misplaced) political expediency and will admit, as Johnson and Carter and Clinton have had to do before him, that it was a mistake. He’ll ask, explicitly or implicitly, for our apology for not having acted to restore sanity when he could.
I’ve had a wasting disease that killed my appetite dead for months. I lost 55 pounds. It was a struggle to eat even 400 calories per day. I marveled at the effect on my body, and at my lack of hunger, even though I realized that this interesting physiological adventure could end up with me being dead. I knew that marijuana was a likely treatment for my lack of appetite — that in my case it might literally save my life — but I didn’t use it because it’s illegal and I’m a lawyer and I didn’t want to set an example of law-breaking for my daughters, whose tender age and brown skin would provide them much less shelter from the ravages of the judicial system than would my middle-aged pinkness. And, as an advocate of “regulating it like wine,” for over 20 years I’ve abstained largely because I didn’t want my political position on marijuana to be taken as self-interested special pleading. I want the legality of medical marijuana to be honored by the federal government because it’s right, not because I might enjoy getting high.
President Obama may ask to be forgiven in that prospective memoir, but I won’t forgive him. I’ll vote for him as a means to an end — a better chance of better policies than the other candidates would offer in a wide variety of areas — but he knows better than to allow the persecution of the medical marijuana industry in California. And, back east, I doubt that Ms. Lee and her husband and others who loved her mother-in-law will easily forgive him and his administration either for the fact that the “one good day” that this cancer victim had in her terrible ordeal stood out so strongly and uniquely from all of the others, when it could have been a ritual that provided her comfort and greater health every last damned day of her suffering life.
Greg what kind of law do you practice?
Plaintiff’s-side employment law, for the most part, but I’m getting so pissed off at this federal crackdown on California-legal medical marijuana dispensaries that I am thinking of branching out into smacking municipal scofflaws who won’t follow Prop 215’s rules. What’s happening truly is an outrage — and I have been known to tilt at windmills. I would not mind a fight with people like this: http://www.nipitinthebudusa.org/prop_215.html.
so what exactly do these ass clowns propose the 4% do? this is personal cause Im a MMJ patient and trust me my use of MMJ would be sanctioned by this group if they stand by their rhetoric. But they offer no solution for the 4%.
So now you know who Aspergillus Alexandra is. I’ve already taken her on. She’s a pathetic lightweight and the most thin skinned recovering addict I have ever met.
“I’ve abstained largely because I didn’t want my political position on marijuana to be taken as self-interested special pleading.”
No, your decision to previously abstain shows that you lack the courage to stand up for what is right. And now you are “coming around” because cannabis legalization is gaining popularity in the polls. I’d have a lot more respect for you if you would have just come out and said that you used to support Prohibition but now see it as a misguided policy. Your rhetoric smacks of the pandering that I have heard from so called “legalization advocates” from local Democratic Party hacks like Nick Anas of the OCYD whose members were all talk and used our campaign efforts (Yes on 19) for cheap photo ops and soundbites. Yes, Mr. Anas said his support was all about getting votes, not about doing what is right.
At least most of the Republicans in the area and on this blog have at least had the courage to come up to me and say that they oppose my stance on legalization. At least I know where they stand. I don’t agree with their stance, but I know they were honest enough not to mince words. Unfortunately, I don’t trust the Democratic Party because they say one thing and turn around do something different. So why would I want to be around a bunch of people who are going to betray my trust and throw me under the bus because it is politically expedient for them? We Indians (or Native Americans to you overly sensitive non-Indians) have a term for people like that: Hang Around The Fort Indians
I have also been a vocal and outspoken cannabis legalization advocate for over 20 years. For me, this issue is also very personal as I am also a MMJ patient and live with a wife who suffers from chronic pain and having watched her take toxic painkillers made me ill. Unlike the Charlie Brown wishy washy types who say “I support legalization….BUT,” I’m not afraid of calling people out who claim to support legalization but support people or politicians who support continued funding and escalation of the current failed prohibitionist policies and denying sick people safe access to the medicine of their choosing. Why you choose to support Obama but say you support legalization is puzzling. It’s just like some of the Log Cabin Republicans who support politicians who favor denying rights to LGBT individuals. I’m not afraid to call out people who continue to support funding the D.A.R.E. program in our schools. I’m not worried about making nice “for party unity” because I want to advance a political career or become some sort of “important” person in a political party’s hierarchy.
Frankly, I think Democrats and Republicans are equally repugnant because they are more concerned about making nice than actually standing for some principles that may not necessary be popular among the masses. Seeing how both parties throw people under the bus when they “go against the grain” or “the party line” showed me that people who participate in party politics are comprised of people who haven’t grown up beyond the world of high school cliquedom.
I’m glad to hear about your outrage on the Feds’ decision to escalate their raids on CA dispensaries. Unfortunately, by voting for Obama you played a part in that. And keep on wishing that Obama will say that his decision to wage war against CA dispensary owners was “a mistake” because I don’t think he will. Chances are that the California Democratic Party will put support for legalization on their party’s platform (in writing) before Obama becomes “enlightened” and say that his decision to Federal agents on compassionate caregivers and sick people was a mistake.
By the way, where is the language in the state Democratic Party’s platform when it comes to support for medical marijuana patients’ rights and legalization? I know where it is. It exists in the same realm as Obama ‘s “secret plan” for legalization.
That’s her? Dude, I thought you were hallucinating. You have to admit, it was going with the odds.
I mean abstaining from using cannabis. I’ve supported legalization for 35 years or so. My only “but” is: tax, regulate, no heavy machinery, not for children.
I support Obama because someone is going to be President and I don’t want another Republican in the White House, ever. They can’t be trusted with our democracy. When they nominate Eisenhower again, I’ll consider not considering who controls the Presidency an existential fight. (The Republicans aren’t going to legalize it either, Dana notwithstanding.)
We can talk party politics some other time. I’m in there pushing for the party and its politicians doing what they can. I don’t resent your working from outside, you shouldn’t regret my working from (relatively) inside.
@Greg Diamond:
I concur with you that we should consider LEGALIZING MMJ, and then REGULATING and TAXING it, and keeping it AWAY FROM CHILDREN (contrary to what GF assumes is my position). Similar to abolishing prohibition of alcohol, and also because I feel this will severely cut down on the PROFITABILITY of the drug cartels.
Additionally, this DECRIMINALIZATION will allow us to focus our limited law enforcement resources on VIOLENT criminals.
I suspect that, except for MMJ dramatically increasing the risk of or triggering Psychotic episodes on VULNERABLE individuals, MMJ may be safer than smoking cigarettes, because MMJ does NOT have POLONIUM 210 the radioactive that causes cancer from regular cigarette smoking. (I first learned of the RADIATION dangers of Polonium 210 about 10 years ago from a Public Health Director who was directly involved in this research, while on a plane trip to a business conference.)
Please see the Marijuana vs Cigarettes debate:
http://weedsmokersguide.com/marijuana-cigarettes/
I suspect that regular cigarette smoking is MOrE addictive (so far) than MMJ because MMJ does not have the hundreds of chemicals that cigarette manufacturers have learned to use to make people addicted to cigarette smoking, and which was disclosed by Dr. Jeffrey Wigand (the ultimate Insider whistleblower.)
http://www.jeffreywigand.com/theinsider.php
(Jeffrey Wigand (played by RUSSELL CROWE) was a central witness in the lawsuits filed by Mississippi and 49 other states against the tobacco industry which were eventually settled for $246 billion. Wigand, former head of research for Brown & Williamson, was a top scientist, the ultimate insider. No one like him had ever gone public before.”
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My opinions only and not those of any group
You forget Ron Paul and Gary Johnson. But like most Democrats I have met in this county who wear rose colored partisan glasses, I wouldn’t expect you to acknowledge them in their support of drug policy reform.
For me, this has never been about “our political party was first in its support” unlike the BS that your OCYD chair was trying to spin last election season while working on the Congressional campaign of a Drug War supporter. He admitted that their support of Prop 19 was all about getting votes, nothing about the principles of respecting individual civil liberties and reforming the current political culture that is cooperative with the prison industrial complex. Which made me suspect on their true support or intentions in trying to help our campaign and the Democratic Party’s commitment (with the exception of someone like Jared Polis) has made me suspect since this past election.
The fact of the matter Greg is that your political party, the Democratic Party, was the initial party that helped bring on the whole reefer madness charade in 1937 with FDR’s cooperation and his appointment of Harry J. Anslinger as the nation’s 1st drug czar. It’s OK to admit that your party made a mistake. I’d have more respect for Democrats in this county if they were to acknowledge that fact with a simple admission of “we made a mistake” and actually did more to bring this effort forward by supporting people who support true reforms, not just pay lip service to them and then turn around support people who seek to undermine those reforms. Unfortunately, most of the Democrats that I have met last election season (with a few notable exceptions) fell into that category. Which is why most people in this country don’t really see a difference between the two parties and register as independent or “decline to state.”
I know better to expect help and support from the Republicans. But at least I know up front what I am dealing with even though, ironically, the OC chapter of Republican Liberty Caucus was more helpful in our volunteer efforts with Prop 19 than the paid lip servants in the OCYD. Take my two cents it for what it is worth to you since I was there on the front lines.
As far as Aspeguillus Alexandra. Yes, that is her.
Yes, libertarian Republicans tend to be better on drug policy than others, about as good as liberal Democrats. But they aren’t going to win; in fact Johnson (whom I oppose for other reasons such as his stance on child labor laws) isn’t even invited to almost any of the debates.
I was in the Irvine field office a lot of the time and saw a whole lot of Prop 19 work getting done, by people who supported it. The OCYD chair doesn’t speak for the whole Democratic Party. Nor do I, although I do think that the Anslinger appointment and subsequent policies were not simply mistakes, but disasters.
Unless Paul runs as a 3rd party (which I think is possible), if you vote for anyone with the slightest chance to win it will be one of the two major parties. They will be the ones making policy — with the exception of the policy that can be made through the courts. You may not think that that matters; I disagree.
“mugged in New Haven” — ah, the memories.
I lived there two years, good times. But it’s Yale encircled by ghetto. And I loved to go out in the ghetto, just for the hell of it. And whenever I did, EVERYBODY assumed – cops, whores, dealers – that I was a white guy looking for something illegal in the black hood.
Great story, Greg, I had no idea. Are you still peeved at my (admittedly mostly cermonial) offer for free advertisement here for any local dispensaries?
http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2011/10/defying-the-feds-the-orange-juice-blog-offers-free-advertisement-for-oc-medical-marijuana-dispensaries/
Are you asking me as a lawyer or as a human being. NOT THE SAME, YOU KNOW!
I have my own story about the medical use of pot.
It is also a story of palliative care, defined as being focused on providing patients with relief from the symptoms, pain, and stress of a serious illness—whatever the diagnosis. The goal is to improve quality of life for both the patient and the family.
Years ago, I had been living with my girlfriend for about a year when she developed a little limp which we though was some sort of chiropractic problem. It soon progressed to dragging her foot, then her speech became affected, and she was then given a diagnosis of ALS, or Lou Gehrig’s Disease. Devastating news for a bright and successful artist, being told that you have 2 years to live when you have just turned thirty. She was soon in a wheelchair and unable to care for herself.
She turned to alternative medicine for answers, as Western Medicine had none, and that included the use of marijuana for several reasons. I was able to provide a reasonably good quality of life for her for 16 years, because the pot kept up her appetite (wasting is a condition of ALS) and provided her stress relief. It was also very helpful in pain relief, another symptom of the disease. Her being happy also made it easier for me and the rest of her family. Watching your physical body quickly deteriorate while your mind remains intact is horrifying to say the least, and the pot offered some relief from that.
She was one of the first patients to get a prescription for MMJ from her physician, who was risking his standing in the medical field, as it was not a popular request, and not too popular among his peers. There were no dispensaries competing for market share, and obtaining her medicine was in a gray area as far as the law was concerned. It was an additional stress in an already stressful life.
She finally passed away after an heroic battle…. but MMJ improved her life, extended her life, and I can find no reason for anyone to deny anyone else the right to find some relief in an often cruel world.
Nobody should be made to feel like a criminal when life deals you a crappy hand.
You already know that you’re a saint for how you dealt with this, Demagogue, so I’m just letting you know that I know it too.
I agree. Handled with integrity and compassion.
Thanks for your kind words. Much appreciated.
We all have the capacity to do wonderful things for each other, and we aren’t always asked to step up for one another as I was. That potential lies within each of us, and I truly believe that most all of us reading this, would have done the same thing that I did, left or right.
Happy Holidays to all of you.
Up until 1937 when cannabis was made illegal, it was easily the best prescription they had for migraines. I suffer from migraines and have found it’s the only thing that can abort a migraine before it gets really bad. Luckily I don’t get them too often because of my diet and other natural supplements I take. However, I have first hand knowledge that cannabis is without a doubt a fantastic medicine for migraines. That’s why 3 different doctors have prescribed it for me (a natural medicine doctor, my general practitioner, and the best neurologist in OC).
Although I’m not a recreational smoker (just when needed), I think it should be completely legal, taxed, and regulated.
Here’s a good video about how cannabis was used in tinctures in the past:
http://migraineheadachequestions.org/migraine/cannabis-in-early-textbooks-sir-william-osler-ama-and-treatment-of-migraines
Oh yeah, F*@# the government for abusing our rights like the commies they are for making it illegal in the first place! It’s beneficial medicine and a much safer recreational drug than alcohol or cigarettes.
“It’s beneficial medicine and a much safer recreational drug than alcohol or cigarettes.”
But it stinks worse than shit.
I propose that we do an experiment: put several people in a room full of cannabis smoke and several people in a room with a sewer leak and see who complains more about the smell. skally’s position is clear.
I’ll take cannabis anyday. Even over cigarette smoke.
Question,
For the biased cannabis smokers, what is your primary propose for consuming cannabis?
For the medical benefits, for just getting high, another reason.
If it is multiple reasons can you weight average it like 98% fun vs. 2 % medical.
What is the county or state of origin of your product? Thai-sticks, Maui-wowie, Mexican skunk, Crown tips, falling rain?
That’s more than one question.
Is mood elevation a medical benefit if one is depressed (or depressive)? Why or why not?
As for the last question: why do you want to know? Do you have a post to submit?
Red wine has incredible medicinal benefits. It seems to make people live much longer happier lives if consumed in moderation. Does it matter if it’s a pleasurable experience? Same thing with green tea and it’s anti-oxidant and psychoactive components. Does the fact it’s enjoyable take away from its medicinal value?
I say no. There is nothing wrong with a spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down. In fact, red wine, green tea, tulsi, cinnamon, cannabis, and millions of other natural foods are healthy and enjoyable to ingest. Only the individual should decide what is best for them, not some commie government.
Mendicino County, CA and Boulder, CO if you want to get specific on the origin of the species grown that I use.
And if I use it for medicinal or recreational reasons within the confines of my own home without harming anyone, why does it really matter to you?
Curious? Cannabis might help with your attitude towards others.
A question being begged when the topic is debated openly is that consumption just for fun is wrong, but consumption for medical purposes is supportable. Why is it, rhetorically speaking, that the fun part of the equation is often ignored? Because we live in a puritanical, hypocritical culture?
For these purposes, the issue is Prop 215, which addresses only medicinal purposes. I favor both medicinal and recreational legalization, but for different reasons (and with different expectations of state cooperation under current law.)
“and recreational legalization” OK I don’t have a problem with that.
You should be looking towards the federal representatives to make that change.
Seems to me a great waste of time and effort to rehash state laws that don’t address the true issue.