What is up with Fullerton’s Rev. Willie Holmes? The local media went nuts earlier this month when he was allegedly attacked by gang members in Fullerton.
“According to Holmes, the youths shouted “FTT” — short for Fullerton Tokers Town, a local Latino gang — and ran in front of the car. He said he drove around them and headed to the church, where he and his passengers ran from the car and hid inside. The attackers followed on foot and smashed the windows of the pastor’s car and the church office,” according to the L.A. Times.
However, it turns out there is more to this story than first meets the eye.
“Pastor Willie Ray Holmes, whose church and family were attacked last week, was ordered to report to the Orange County Jail next month for a probation violation stemming from a lewd-conduct conviction,” according to the O.C. Register.
And it turns out that Holmes was engaged in such actions as recently as Feb. 7! Here are a few excerpts from the Register story about this mess:
Holmes, a pastor at Majesty Christian Fellowship, pleaded guilty to engaging in lewd conduct in a Nov. 30, 2006, incident. He was sentenced to three years’ probation for the misdemeanor, court records show.
Later, Holmes pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of contempt of court for violating the terms of his probation Feb. 4, 2008. He was sentenced to 360 days in jail and three years’ probation, and ordered to stay away from Hillcrest Park in Fullerton.
Holmes was arrested three days later, on Feb. 7, 2008, on suspicion of misdemeanor indecent exposure, lewd conduct in a public place and loitering around a public toilet. The indecent exposure count was dismissed, and he pleaded guilty to the other two counts. He was sentenced to 60 days in jail and three years’ probation.
D’oh! And Holmes’ wife says she doesn’t know anything about any of this and she wants to know what happened. I smell a divorce cooking!
And there may be even more to this story. Gustavo Arellano published a letter in his Navel Gazing blog, by a Fullerton community activist. In that letter the activist disclosed that some gang members told him that the pastor’s son disrespected them, which led to the attack. And much of the protesting against the attack quickly devolved into Latino bashing. Click here to read that post.
Holmes needs to hold another press conference so he can tell us, and his wife, what the heck all of this is really all about. But I suspect he is going to hide now that his issues have been outed.
What did the people of Fullerton do to deserve this mess?
Oh, Oh. Friends for Fullerton is going to have some with this.
I’ll tell you how Art, the residents of Fullerton “ALLOWED” Susan Hunt (the infamous Park & Recreation Director/Dictator who no longer works for the City, thanks in part to Shawn Nelson) the power to determine where to spend Fullerton’s park funds at Hillcrest Park, which is where Dr. Willie Holmes, and like minded men, as well as Fullerton’s vice squad, likes to “hang out”.
The most important features of the park were neglected and “walla”, a meeting place for like minded men to meet was created by design. If I’m not mistaken, recently the Vice Principal at El Modena H.S. was also caught with his pants down at Hillcrest Park. http://www.friendsforfullertonsfuture.org/?p=105
My bad 🙁 the correct spelling of the word is “voila” not “walla”.
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Tony, I really think you are on to something there. The evident neglect of the park and its infrastructure has created an atmosphere of desuetude into which the pervos are drawn.
But that El Modena creep was busted at the Brea Dam, right?
Sometimes a group like the Boy Scouts will help look over and rehab a common use outside area like this. However, considering the freaks that are getting caught there, it would not be a safe place for youngsters to tend to.
Is there no neighborhood watch there? Other cities have had success in busting up these kinds of freak meeting places – maybe there could be a plan in place if there was city support?
Looks like Pastor Willie got the media coverage he wanted..
It’s too bad people like this, using church store fronts as a tax shelter, give legitimate churches a bad name.
Does anyone besides me find it interesting the attack and subsequent showboating by the pastor (and “congregation”) came at a time when the church has seen their parishioner base decimated from defections to other local churches. Looks like revenues are down, need some more marketing, huh Willie?
The attack itself while probably legit, was undoubtedly provoked. It’s not uncommon to see the good pastor and sons cruising around the neighborhood staring down everyone in sight, or even muttering unnecessary comments.
Also interesting that the car that was vandalized in the attacks wasn’t even theirs, but rather a borrowed mechanics car….interesting. Did they bother the tarp it in the recent rain, or sweep up the glass all over the store front? No, instead they are too caught up in their self absorbed greed for donations and poor-me attitude.
Some people are xxxx magnets. Perhaps that is the case here.
David, you are right, El Modena High School Principal Brent Bailey was “caught” in some sort of “lewd” act at the Brea Dam Park, just 300 feet north of Hillcrest Park. I stand to be corrected.
300 feet? You know Fullerton better than that!
Size matters, even when talking in terms fo 300 feet or more.
Any one catch the genius Dr. Hee Haw Jones and his apology to “Dr.” Holmes at the last council meeting? Once again he spoke first and learned the facts later. Mr. Dick, please stop trying to grandstand when you cant tell a pervert from a priest (pun intended).
Shame shame shame to the so called minister. You bring a bad example to the good churches and character of other ministries who do not go around with their hands out crying, pleading for their own cause and personal self needs. What about those persons you demanded, ganged up upon (in numbers of staff in your office) to give money and yelled at them to give money they did not have and to not pay a bill to give that money to you instead? Hah! What about that
I think the gang knew something the public didn’t know about this creep. I wish the gang had have gotten a hold of this creep. Creeps like that make us Black men look bad and He’s an embarrassment to the church.
Sorry to say….after I read the story about Rev Holmes and his son being attacked I drove over to his church and gave him $300.
A few days later I read about the indecent exposure incidents (sounds like more than one) and felt like a chump…
With that said, I feel sorry for the members of his congregation. I know a very kind lady that attends that church and volunteers time handing out food to those less fortunate.
If Willie is that man of god he professes, why doesn’t he a least update his web page and share the truth. I’m not a particularly religious guy, but truth and character matter!
Hold on to your purses and credit cards folks! Slick Willie is out to get public pitty funds. Some acct. has been set up for donations at some bank. BIG SHOCK…He is a confidence man. A CON MAN !! He is a criminal… not a former criminal. The unraveling of ” REV ” Slick Willie has just begun. Watch the Oc register in the future for more details and crimes. The interviews are over and the documents supporting the story are submitted and verified. It is disgusting and dicey and I believe the Register is taking it slowly and very carefully ( maybe waiting for Slick to start doing his time ) I am related to the victim and was horrified to hear of the extreme ” fleecing ” of this elderly woman. After Willie and his were informed and given the opportunity to respond… Willie’s wife (who was NOT ignorant of what they were doing )called this elderly woman at home and stated they would like to give her the chance to recant. It scared her. She was afraid to move forward with the interview. You see, she is afraid of repurcussions. Never the less., she did move forward providing documentation. She has little hope of any financial recovery, but hopes her story will prevent any one else from making the same unfortunate mistake she did. Keep your eyes on the OC Register. When you are moved emotionally by a story, for goodness sake, do your homework before opening your wallet. Donate to a worthy cause, NOT A CON MAN!!! That is how they work…on the kindness and generosity and impulse of those who want to make their community and world a better place.
Message to black knight. If only you knew the truth then you would be set free. really free. After all the drama hoopala you should be running as fast as you can to be away from this man.I see you as a young man with a whole life ahead of you, dont let it get distorted. You may get hurt in the process, that would be such a waste . What do your school friends think?
Why dont you respond now? You were on a roll before
Pastor Willis is a great man he just made some mistakes. Just pray for him, I am sure after all of this drama he has made some changes. None of us are perfect we all have things in our closet.
This is all really sad, but guess what? Rev. Willie (Mr. Slick Willie) has not change! He have only begun his mess! He now call himself Apostle Willie Holmes, what a joke. I can’t wait for all the truth of this cun artist be expose. He is training his son Cyle to be just like him, the are truly one of a kind. The both use people to support them, and if you don’t they want to talk crazy to you. Me and my family is out, enough is enough. Willie got up and told the church the Lord told him to give the church over to it’s current Pastor (Kiss Ass Lavelle) that was all a lie. I wish it was true, the church would be better off with Pastor Lavelle. But when Slick Willie saw he was loosing ground, he started his bashing and verbal abuse to the members. Why can’t he understand he needs to move on and let Majesty become a real church. Majesty have some good people, but Slick Willie and Cyle is destroying what could be a good church. I will not give another dime to this joke of a ministry and preachers. BEWARE-BEWARE-BEWARE-BEWARE-BEWARE-BEWARE, slick Willie will talk you out of all you have and can get hold to, especially young people.
wow the bible talks about people persecuting in the last days apostle willie i love you and im always here people can go to hell with there foolishness truly the annointing rest on ur life its obvious no christians are not perfect… shesh all the comments are ridiculous this man is a man of God so yall betta watch the comments posted cause GOD is on the rampage people. still the best pastor out there theres no sin greater than the other every1 stop pointing fingers ur a siner toooooooo