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Which site would you rather have to pay to remediate — one with toxic waste or one with strawberries?
Orange Juice Blog would like to apologize for the somewhat misleading graphic appearing above regarding the implications for Irvine voters of how they vote on Measure B, regarding the veterans’ cemetery, when it comes to the cost of site remediation. It might even be called a “cheap shot.”
The right half of the graphic is quite correct: the only thing that would need to be done if voters vote YES on Measure B is that people would have to eat any organic strawberries remaining on the Bake Parkway site — and, yes, dig up the remaining plants and (OJB hopes) compost them.
However, the implication that publicly paid workers in hazmat suits would come to the ARDA site to remove toxic waste on the site, or even would have to deal with the teardown of possibly asbestos-containing concrete structures is highly misleading. As we said in the headline to get you to read this — it’s a cheap shot.
People in Hazmat Suits would only have to happen if the cemetery were actually built on that site. And it’s pretty likely — especially if Five Point took out its checkbook and cuddled up to the quite readily influenced Trump Administration to get a special favor rider approved in an appropriation bill that would use the Supremacy Clause to override State Law in this instance, or use the EPA to block construction forever, that NO CEMETERY WOULD BE BUILT THERE AT ALL!
The choice facing Irvine voters is not between two sites — it is between building a cemetery to honor veterans and serve their loves ones, or having no veterans cemetery at all.
Orange Juice Blog deeply regrets the implication that there would even be a cemetery built in Orange County if voters reject Measure B. All — literally, the entire project — will be lost, if Measure B loses, and all to serve Larry Agran’s petty spitefulness towards Five Point for toppling his reign over the city.
(And by the way, that photo actually depicts homeless civilians in Japan who had been forced into service cleaning up toxic waste after Fukushima. It’s like Orange County’s secret dream.)
If you live in OC (or in Long Beach, the Gateway Cities, or northern San Diego) and know someone in Irvine, please call and deliver a message:
YES ON B!
The creator of that misleading graphic will be disciplined appropriately — by making a ton of calls this weekend and through election day for veterans advocate Josh Newman to survive the misguided recall election and Col. Doug Applegate in CA-49.
This is your final pre-Primary election Weekend Open Thread. Talk about that, or whatever else you’d like, within broad limits of dignity, decorum, and — dare we dream? — decency.
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PS (from Vern) – here is the “first artist’s rendering of the Orange County Veteran’s Memorial Park at Strawberry Fields site on the El Toro Marine Base! This illustrates the progress we have made. We have a vision, and if everything goes smoothly, cemetery construction could start as early as October 2018.”

From Bill Cook of OCVMPF (the vets’ group that hatched the idea for this cemetery and (is promoting “Yes on B!”. I’ve snipped out a couple of sentences that he might want to hold back from the opposition, but if you want to get involved just post a comment here expressing interest, with your name (pseudonym OK, but he might not write you back) and a working email address in the form you’ll need to post, and I’ll put you in touch with him.)
And for those of you who only know Bill Cook from the photo of him flipping off Dan Chmielewski after Chumley had spread disinformation about him, all we can say about Bill there is: we admire his restraint.
Photo of Cook flipping the bird to Chemical Lewinsky please?
Except you have to imagine you are Dan C cuz he took the pic…
CORRECTION! Some pal of Dan C’s, from Agran’s Irvine whatever whatever, took the pic. So I dunno if he’s really flipping off Dan or some other Agranista(s).
AND: the OC Register’s Editorial Board, clearly following the lead of OJB, came out hard today for a YES ON B vote. We claim fair use for criticism and will reprint the whole thing:
Our criticism: why don’t you guys this make sense every day?
Our reciprocal blogroll-mate Art Pedroza has an important announcement from the OCGOP: http://ocpoliticsblog.com/2018/05/30/the-oc-gop-has-censured-state-assembly-candidate-greg-haskin/
This raises five questions:
(1) Since when has the OCGOP cared about its candidates lying about other candidates?
(2) If they really cared about it, wouldn’t they have torn Travis Allen to bits over the past year for his false to the point of lunacy comments about what Legislative Democrats supposedly did — like legalizing child prostitution and banning the bible?
(3) Violating a “cease and desist order”? Orders are issued by a court. Did some court issue an order against Greg Haskin? Or are they talking about a simple private demand letter, with no legal force? If so, shouldn’t GOP Chair Fred Whitaker know the difference?
(4) What in tarnation did Haskin WRITE about Tyler Diep, anyway? Where can we find it? Does anyone know?
(5) How far are they really prepared to go in defending Tyler Diep’s ethics? Is there any action of his that they wouldn’t defend? Can we have weekly debates between Whitaker and some DPOC official about them? Or maybe they can be with 72nd District runoff-participant apparent Josh Lowenthal himself?
Meanwhile, because this censure is clearly the OCGOP’s way of telling Mr. Haskin that he will not be participating in this runoff, as they prefer a more crooked candidate, we’d like to take advantage of his being free this fall to invite Mr. Haskin to comment about Mr. Diep in our series on the 72nd District race: “Seriously, How Crooked IS Tyler Diep?” Contact us on or after June 6, Mr. Haskin. We have a long and glorious history of GOP contributors of which you might enjoy being a part.
(And — thanks for the tip, Art!)