[This comes from Dr. Jose Moreno’s Facebook page. I find it astonishing but I’m not astonished. — GAD]
Last week, a proposal was submitted by Mirvette Judeh to the Democratic Party of Orange County‘s Legislation Committee for their review and action to recommend to the County Party Chair and Executive Committee support for H.Res. 786–Deescalation and Cease Fire In Israel and Occupied Palestine.
The meeting to discuss the proposal was tonite with great interest by members of our impacted communities—Arab, Muslim, Jewish, Palestinian, Latinos, Catholics, and Christians were among those wanting to speak and engage in democratic deliberation.
Tragically, In an orchestrated manner, a motion to adjourn the meeting (3 minutes after meeting started) was made and seconded by two DPOC Executive Committee members— without ability for motion to be debated. The DPOC Legislation Committee then voted, without debate, 4-2 to adjourn and not give a hearing, discussion and vote to the duly submitted proposal calling for cease fire in Israel-Palestine. A resolution calling for a ceasing of killing of thousands of children, women and men—civilians. (Jose Trini Castañeda and Marleen Gillespie voting against the motion to adjourn—thank you!)
A shameful action and cruel use of power to suppress democratic deliberation on a proposal calling to stop the killing of innocents.
Shame. Que vergüenza!
To fellow Democrats on Central Committee, and those registered Democrats, whether one agrees with the legislation or not, we should all be alarmed at the anti-democratic abuse of power to suppress deliberation and a vote. If Party leaders suppress the fundamental act to discuss, debate and vote, then what do we truly stand for?
Especially on a humanitarian crisis.
We are talking about a humanistic call to end the killing of children and generational lines of innocent families
OK, this is Greg again. I remember things like this happening in the DPOC and the Democratic State Central Committee, where I spent a lot of time arguing on the private Facebook page with some astonishingly anti-Arab/Muslim party leaders, but I can’t recall anything quite like this. This is terrible behavior in front of many activists who are now going to spit on the Democratic Party for its cowardice — not because it didn’t give them the resolution of support they sought, but that it literally did not give them the dignity and courtesy to speak on behalf of their position. They clearly had the votes to oppose such a resolution anyway, so the whole point here was likely either:
- fear of being exposed to ideas that they rejected out of hand;
- making a blatant show of disrespect to their visitors that they thought would with their own supporters by treating anything short of slavish dedication to Israeli policy as literally “beneath contempt.” In writing this, though, I realize that there was a another possibility:
- that they feared for their own safety if the meeting went forward in front of a crowd of angry people of color. If anyone wants to make the case that they were acting out of fear rather than contempt, they owe it to the party to come forward and state their basis for such beliefs — because it would likely be very illuminating. (And the notion of this coming from a union-supporting party whose common tactic is filling the seats at Council meetings when they feel affronted is strange indeed.)
Let’s get some things straight: First, the sadly supine position of most of the Democratic Party reflects the fact that Israel can only do this sort of thing because they have the power and boundless generosity of the United States behind it. That means that Israel has to have its American supporters police the views of their parties with the energy that Southern Dixiecrats had to be ready to stomp out any ember of pro-Black representation or respect on television that might grow into a flame of support for civil rights. (I’m old enough to remember not only Lt. Uhura’s first appearance on Star Trek, but also when Diahann Carroll played the first starring TV role by a Black woman on “Julia” — and the Dixiecrats went mad with their denunciations. Interracial romance — except possibly that involving white men and their Black mistresses — also sent them into a frenzy of cancelling shows on local stations. Because if you “gave an inch” on these issues, those wanting to go against the culturally prescribed norms would take a mile. (And, yes, that’s pretty much what happened — and we can all be thankful for that.)
Second, the fears of anti-Zionism or anti-Judaism — I don’t call it anti-Semitism here because there are Semites on both sites — now burgeoning in the United States are exactly what that bastard Benjamin Netanyahu WANTS. He wants American Jews to be afraid, because fear of personal reliably shifts people views to the right and generally leads them to sacrifice their moral qualms to gain physical protection. (This is not just a move favored by fascists — although of course it is that as well.)
Third, this is absolutely killing Joe Biden’s chances against the nation-ending Donald Trump (not to mention against Nikki Haley, if she beats him, or Jim Jordan, if an incarcerated Trump anoints him as his successor.) And again: this is perfectly fine with Netanyahu, who knows that the party’s progressive wing is not a stable ally in the long term as the Israeli leaders go further and further beyond the bounds of human decency and the limitations of the laws of war. Actually, it’s more than fine: he wants to see the reasonable, peace-seeking members of the Democratic Party smothered; he sees the Armageddon-yearning fundamentalist Christians of the Republican Party as his more natural allies, because their religious doctrine needs a strong Israeli state encompassing all of Palestine before we get the prophesied Second Coming.
Netanyahu endorsed Trump over Biden, and while they have had a falling out — or he pretended to have one when he needed Joe Biden to push for a separate peace treaty with Saudi Arabia (which the disproportionate Israeli slaughter of Gazans has made unlikely anytime soon — he and Trump can easily reconcile if Trump wins. And the idea of Israel as a bestial criminal state is being imprinted firmly in young people today — and they’re largely not going to be working or maybe even voting for Democrats as things stand. And even the possibility that Joe Biden might crack down on Israel in a way that Trump would not in a second term is losing him the hardcore Jewish vote as well.
So, everyone on the craven committee but Marleen Gillespie and Trini Castaneda — and I wish I knew who they were so I could address them properly — should hang their heads in shame. I presume that the DPOC still allows motions to come directly to the floor of the General Meeting, or maybe even of the Executive Board, in this sort of situation; I hope that Democrats will clamor for Ada to do so. (She should also kick a lot of people off of that committee.) I think that the odds of Ada letting such a resolution be presented is at least 5%; it’s probably not as high as 10%, but worth a try, anyway!
Two final thoughts:
- This is the sort of thing that works out well only if it is kept as secretive as possible — and so THAT didn’t work out very well, did it?
- I think that Mirvette was truly aghast when I said this to her, but: I am a Zionist! I believe in some manner of two-state solution; one of those states would be a homeland for Jews, and that makes me a Zionist! So I would like to remind people that not everyone who thinks that we Jews should have a homeland in our ancient home thinks that Jews can or should kill enough Palestinians and other Muslims to make that homeland safe. We have to find another way; and we have to pretend that we can leave the creation of a viable and secure Palestinian state within unaccomplished for too much longer — because, as I have been telling Jews and Israelis for almost half a century now, the U.S. is not going to put up with Israel’s war crimes and other arguably genocidal excesses indefinitely. In fact, I hope that the carte blanche approach to Israel — which, again, I want to see exist in peace! — comes to a definite end very very soon.
So much for Ada’s dalliance in the Muslim Latino Collaborative.
This after the DPOC postponed their fundraising event because they scheduled it an Anaheim hotel that was under strike. Talk about Boomerang effect.
Conflating anti-Zionism with anti-semitism is dangerous and (hate) groups like the Anti-Defamation League who want the public to treat them the same endanger everyone. Zionism and Judaism are not the same. One is a religion. And not all semites are Jewish.
How the hell could the Ada-led DPOC have let that mistake happen even for a moment?
As for your last paragraph: I’m not prepared to call the ADL a “hate group” despite how much I disagree with them. (And I suspect that you wouldn’t do so if Israel were not cozied up to Turkey.) I think that Jews have as much right to a dedicated advocacy group as Muslims do; neither should be taken as arguing from a purely objective condition.
Other than that, I pretty much agree. I’m thinking of putting up Chemerinsky’s recent speech on the topic, which I find startling. (But, it’s by far a prevalent attitude among even liberal Jews.)
Is it possible that the Ada we once knew has been kidnapped and replaced by a Space Spider?
Farfetched, I realize, but I’m not ruling it out.
Among other things, the ADL lobbied against formal US recognition of the Armenian genocide for decades on behalf of Turkey and Israel. How is that advocating for Jews. It actually makes Jews bad.
Without advocating for that stance, Israel’s allying with Turkey probably does make at least Israeli Jews safer because it is the other local main military power in the local region and is a member of NATO. And the ADL sees itself as having an interest in supporting the welfare of Israeli Jews because it doesn’t want to be without local allies.
I’m sorry to inform you that I don’t think that anyone outside of your head (and perhaps those of some other Armenians) is judging even Israel’s goodness or badness by its position on the Armenian genocide. But that was a valiant attempt to move the discussion to ground you prefer.
Naz Hamid (who had originally backed the resolution then flipped) and Jonathan Adler (WTF Jonathan?) – then it woulda been only 2-2, so THEY at the last minute added Florice, Lauren Johnson-Norris and Libby Frolichman (sp?) to help them crush it.
That’s even allowed?
Naz was reportedly threatened that her support for this could endanger her position as an Irvine Commissioner! Barf. NOT a Profile in Muslim Courage.
Naz Hamid is worthless. Farrahkhan supporter.
See what you’ve done by mentioning “Muslim Courage,” Vern?
I’ll take my myopia over Eric’s tunnel vision any day.
Her name is “Farrah Khan,” not “Farrahkhan,” Eric. You only call her the latter to evoke the widespread (but not unanimous) antipathy for Louis Farrakhan. It’s a cheap attack and, to punish it, I’m deleting your second comment where you do it again. Wise up, wiseguy.
Edited to add: And stop making me defend Farrah by doing the blog equivalent of violating international law.
I call her that because she is a racist and it’s ironic. Poetic license. I prefer the Other One. Lesser of two evils.
Racist against … Armenians? Spit it out, man!
I’m told that many leaders in the Jewish, Arab, and Muslim community were present when the DPOC managed to muzzle them in 3 minutes.
What are we talking about, this House Resolution 786, which the DPOC either fiercely opposed or was afraid to even have a debate about?
Here it is: https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hres786/BILLS-118hres786ih.pdf
Wow! I had no idea how completely radical it was! Let’s put the whole text into the record!
118TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION H. RES. 786
Calling for an immediate deescalation and cease-fire in Israel and occupied
Palestine.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
OCTOBER 16, 2023
Ms. BUSH (for herself, Ms. TLAIB, Mr. CARSON, Ms. LEE of Pennsylvania,
Mrs. RAMIREZ, Mr. BOWMAN, Mrs. WATSON COLEMAN, Mr. GARCI´A of
Illinois, Mr. JACKSON of Illinois, Ms. OCASIO-CORTEZ, Ms. OMAR, Ms.
PRESSLEY, and Ms. VELA´ZQUEZ) submitted the following resolution
OCTOBER 25, 2023
Referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs
RESOLUTION
Calling for an immediate deescalation and cease-fire in Israel
and occupied Palestine.
Whereas all human life is precious, and the targeting of civilians, no matter their faith or ethnicity, is a violation of
international humanitarian law;
Whereas, between October 7 and October 16, 2023, armed violence has claimed the lives of over 2,700 Palestinians
and over 1,400 Israelis, including Americans, and wounded thousands more;
Whereas hundreds of thousands of lives are at imminent risk
if a cease-fire is not achieved and humanitarian aid is not
delivered without delay; and
Whereas the Federal Government holds immense diplomatic
power to save Israeli and Palestinian lives: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the House of Representatives—
(1) urges the Biden administration to immediately call for and facilitate deescalation and a cease-fire to urgently end the current violence; and
(2) calls upon the Biden administration to
promptly send and facilitate the entry of humanitarian assistance into Gaza.
And by “I didn’t realize how radical it was,” I mean: “that it was so close to 0%.”
My main criticism of it is that “de-escalation” should be hyphenated. But I’m guessing that that’s not the Committee’s problem with it.
That having happened to Naz is horrible and speaks to the use of thuggery instead of meritorious argument. And it’s completely unsurprising. Calling it a lack of “Muslim courage” is completely unfair: how many people do you know who would casually throw away a political career that they’ve spent years trying to build just to add a point to what would be a losing vote regardless?
As for the others showing up: the DPOC Officers are automatically ex officio members of every committee — and I believe that Lauren is a VP, and I vaguely recall that Trini and Libby are as well — although that power is generally not used.
I don’t think that this could have been done without Ada’s acquiescence — but the only other person who could have managed it was Florice (and the thuggishness does suggest her fingerprints.) My bet would be that she did it after notifying Ada, who averted her gaze.
I’ll use my Jewish privilege to note that the big problem here was likely a fear of losing contributions by Jewish donors. Sorry it’s so, but: it’s so.
The Onion is devastating on the bipartisanship: https://www.theonion.com/politicians-explain-why-they-will-not-endorse-a-ceasefi-1850977051
DPOC has time and time again ignored the D in their acronym. Very little “democratic” within the “Democratic” Party of OC.
And you wonder why Green, Peace and Freedom, and Socialists have fled the party, when this is how they treat it’s own members/leaders. Muslim and Palestinian and Ceasefire activists (myself included) are muzzled and kicked to the back, while Pro-Israeli, AIPAC, and yes Pro-Zionists are elevated in this “party”.
As it happens with Dem Orgs all across America in almost all 50 states, liberal leaning Jews with deep pockets and max donations, DNC DPOC CADEM DCCC DSCC cannot and will not even come close to being Anti-Israel and Anti-Netayahu regime.
But, Ada is a fan of Jim Morrison’s poetry.
https://www.instagram.com/adabriceno/p/CyrE7C6hK5v/
“Expose yourself to your deepest fear, then fear will have no power over you.”
I thought that was Gordon Liddy! (I read his autobiography when I was a kid)
Phony quotations are all over the place.
Yeah, didn’t Mark Twain say that? Or was it George Carlin.
Liddy’s are in the news. Lol.
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/raymond-liddy-son-of-watergate-operative-disbarred-after-child-porn-conviction-in-san-diego/3329186/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/04/us/texas-election-threats-man-sentenced.html
I have a solution re this quagmire. A second DPOC. The can call themselves the Orange County Democratic Party.
It would literally be shut down due to trademark infringement.
The CDP jealously protects its trademarks from anyone not toadying to them.
Well then they are inviting a third party to the party.