As I think I may have mentioned once, I’ve become a big fan of Google Trends as a way to chart what is preoccupying the public at a given moment. So let’s take a look at a couple of different topics from this year:

January saw a big spike in interest in classified documents. February has been disproportionately about balloons.
(And yes, I’ve gone back for a year and more. These spikes are both “best in category.”)
What interests me in both of these topics is that, for all the ink and pixels spent on both, people seem to overlook the obvious.
Why did China send at least that initial balloon into upper North American territory? It seems to have involved “signals intelligence” (you know it as eavesdropping), which one can easily imagine is easier and more productive from 40,000 feet in the stratosphere than from satellite orbit — something that eluded most commenters back on February 3, when cable news went bananas over balloons. (The difference between CNN — panicking people with guests demanding to “shoot it down now!” — and MSNBC, which had some nicely measured panel discussions on what might be happening and why, has rarely been more clear. But what seemed to be lost on the “why” of the moment was what was possibly gained by testing the U.S.’s stratospheric monitoring and defenses this way: mostly, it revealed what the US was and was not likely to do in such a situation. And, frankly, for other powers, once can imagine that that is worth noting.
It was also worth it for the U.S. to let the line play out and see where things were headed. Yes, China might have got some good signals intelligence for a week or so, but for the U.S. got a much greater prize — capture of the balloon itself and a good look at what technology it contained. Waiting until it passed over land, but not until it passed outside of U.S. jurisdiction (or easy salvage depth) seemed like a perfect move. (And let’s be frank: if it had been shot down over Montana and a falling piece of debris has so much as wounded one bison, we would never have heard the end of it from Congressional Republicans.) It seems much easier to salvage something in relatively shallow water than after it hits a some flat or rocky ground — so this approach obviously made sense in retrospect as well.
But having shot one down, we’re now shooting several down, which raises a question in my mind: is this about seeing how much money China (or whoever) can get us to spend on some actually pretty expensive deployment of aircraft and use of missiles? Yes, this is a nice training exercise, I suppose, but it’s an expensive one as well. Could our global opponents really put a dent into our economy by having us send up so many aircraft and (essentially) waste so much ordnance? I think it’s more likely today that I would have thought it was in January.
As, yes, January. Classified documents month, before balloons.
Obviously we’ve seen a rising amount of interest in classified documents — especially once President Biden got into the picture. That has led to a lot of stories pointing out the differences between what Trump did and what Biden did — and I don’t think I need to delineate the differences between Biden’s coming clean immediately after his “oopsie” and Trump claiming rightful ownership and battling for more than a year over documents that had been deliberately stolen and hidden in Trump’s spectacularly insecure abode and club. But most of the pieces that I read and viewed somehow missed the most significant difference between the situations: what were they going to do with those documents?
Biden, Pence, Obama, Bush, whoever — weren’t going to do anything with them.
With Trump, though, we literally had to be scared that he had nuclear secrets and was going to do something with them: monetize them. That a nice term, in this case, for sell them to hostile foreign powers — more likely Russia than China — along with information about our secret agents in Moscow and elsewhere.
Step back and think about it. The only thing more startling than our having had a President whom we seriously couldn’t trust with national secrets is that that President is seriously being considered the likely Republican nominee next year.
Let’s retrieve a couple of items that have been sucked deep into the national memory hole:
(1) Trump was hoping to build a name-braded luxury hotel in Moscow, if he could get permission — and while it may strike some of us as insane that anyone could put their own income about the security interests of their country, Trump was just the narcissistic sociopath for that job. Part of the blame here belongs with the Democratic Congress, which (so as to … not confuse the public?) chose not to bring an article of impeachment against Trump for his violations of the Emoluments Clause, which addresses gifts or payments by foreign powers.
(2) Trump had a conversation with Vladimir Putin that was only attended by one translator — from Putin’s side — and in which no notes were taken. No one else was in the room where it happened — whatever “it” was, and “it” could surely not have been anything good. Do we even remember this anymore? (I don’t even recall it even coming up in the 2020 election.) The standards practice with such high-level meetings is that the President is accompanied by someone from the State Department (or some such) and that someone who attended would take notes for the national intelligence community. Do we know even now what was said at this meeting, what else might have been transpired between the two leaders, and how it has been allowed to just lie there for so long since?
If there has ever been anything that called for a Congressional investigation, this plotting between an aspiring tyrant representing our country and someone who had already achieved that status in our most worrisome enemy was it. With Trump on the verge of announcing his candidacy, this should be flung back into his face, from every quarter of the media, for the next 20 months.
But it won’t happen — because if we can’t even have the real difference between what Biden and Trump have done with classified documents at the forefront of our consciousness when discussing them, how can we rouse ourselves to uncover the truth behind a situation where our President was, quite literally, consorting with our biggest enemy?
This is your Weekend Open Thread, a day early or five days late, take your pick. Talk about that or anything else you want to talk about, within reasonable bounds of decency and decorum.
[Vern’s contribution, found on FB]
WAY BACK MACHINE……
Matt Cunningham, fresh outta college, signs up to support MILLIONARE Mike Huffington (Yeah that old gay dude). Opposing DIFI, who along with Riverside County denizen Barbara Boxer (POSIEDEN PROPONENT).
Oh my how much things change, the more they stay the same…..Is Deb Bowen on skid row yet?
Jerb’s gaydar is non-existent. That can be embarrassing for a “social conservative.”
Well Huffington musta seemed like a fine, upstanding, cultured, neat and well-dressed gentleman.
A few years before Matt and his wife moved on to shilling for Prop 8.
Yes, just like Jordan Brandman. I remember back in the old OC Blog days when Jerb proposed Brand-man become a Republican! I guess he sort of got his wish: an unbranded repuglican.
Don’t spoof other people’s email addresses, please. Otherwise, carry on!
The Chinese should fly those trump balloons. Now that would would be funny.
OK, that comment was good enough to earn you one stupid comment of your choice. Use the code word “trumpballoons” to redeem.
Hasn’t all of this become rather “Twilight Zone”ish? Or are the masses being gently coerced into conflict with the big RED one?
Something to consider.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-aramco-attacks-iran-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-probe-of-saudi-oil-attack-shows-it-came-from-north-report-idUSKBN1YN299
https://time.com/6244977/us-power-grid-attacks-extremism/
https://youtu.be/Fo-UTkdTvbw
DPOC finds Armenian uses her to fundraise. Barf
https://m.facebook.com/events/1227845151180037/?ref_source=newsfeed&ref_mechanism=feed_attachment&action_context=%257B%2522action_history%2522%253A%2522null%2522%257D
You really think that it’s wrong to invite Stephanie Oddo to participate in a fundraising event tied to the theme of Women’s History Month? You really think that it’s wrong of her — who was elected and will hopefully continue to be elected with DPOC support — to accept?
You’re a hard case, Mr. Nesh. Yours is not the only cause in the world and not everyone is impelled to promote that cause all of the time. I’m pleased to see Oddo on the same add as Kristina Foley and others. If you’re displeased — well, gravy.
You and the Dpoc and Ms. Oddimust be glad to be in bed with Muslim nationalists. Meh. Me, not so much. Remember 9/11. I bet you never got pulled off a plane by Homeland Security. Not fun.
Monomaniac gotta be monomaniacal, I suppose.
You remind me of some of my least congenial Jews, who wish ill on any Muslim — except Turkey and occasionally Jordan.
Not every has been driven to your level of bigotry, Lippy.
You could reasonably argue Gandhi and King were monomaniac. I’m sure their detractors thought so.
Don’t feed the wolves. They’ll eat you.
https://twitter.com/KarabakhRecords/status/1627200720926650369
Farrahkhan claims the individual in this video treats her like family. How does she come off sympathetic again?
https://youtu.be/N3hiVmmdTAc
She becomes sympathetic when a monomaniac keeps swinging a cudgel at her. But you seem to be enjoying it, so you’ll keep at it.
I don’t think lying racists who stab people in the back become redeemable because someone enlightens others of the flaw.
Tomorrow is a moment of truth for first amendment and integrity of high Court.
https://m.jpost.com/american-politics/article-731844/amp
Totally with you on this one, Lippy.
By the way, you’ll generally find better writing from Israel in Ha’aretz than in the Jerusalem Post.
I agree oh myopic booby one. Believe it or not.
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2015-05-01/ty-article/herzls-sell-out-of-armenians/0000017f-db3c-df9c-a17f-ff3ccc740000
I was at these shows. Where were you? Larry wad prolly pulling his hair out.
https://youtu.be/ERDEx5QXwGs
Interesting and useful article. The latest comment to it is both as well:
The other comments are mostly useful as well. Ha’aretz seems to have gotten much more confrontational of late; I may have to subscribe again.
I had not gotten around to reading the recent VOC article that has almost scrolled off our sidebar:
Democratic Consultant Who Admitted Trying to Bribe Irvine Councilmembers Worked All Over Orange County
I have to say that it brought out certain emotions in me — predominantly surprise, disappointment and irritation, on the one hand, and amazed excitement on the other.
First, there’s this:
“Was only drawn into the spotlight last year”. Huh.
You know, WE do read VOC pretty religiously, and celebrate them often. But I get the sense from this that either they don’t read us much — point of pride for the professional journalists over us amateurs? — or they don’t think that we’re capable of putting people and issues into the “spotlight.” Ask Poseidon and the OCTA about that. We often get to issues before VOC does, shine a light on them, and are very happy when they come along with their superior resources.
I’m not even asking them to accept that our coverage is in a league with theirs — though on given issues it’s often on par and on some, such as local election coverage, I’d say it’s better. But if they’re really not even READING us — and I don’t think you can say that Melahat’s career was operating in the darkness before the FBI (armed with every story WE’D written) came after her if you HAD been reading us — they they are damn fools. And that damn-foolishness is ultimately on Norberto’s tab. He should know from his outfit’s relationship to the majors that you SHOULD have your reporters reading non-traditional media, and — I don’t care if he thinks we’re fucking NUTS — he should have enough respect for us as an outlet for over 30 years of institutional knowledge between me and Vern to have a look at what we’re doing.
We’re not a competitor to the VOC in any meaningful sense (except perhaps bang for the buck, as these ads funding our web storage are pretty much the only “budget” we have had), but I have spilled the beans on Melahat looooooooong ago — and if they didn’t know about it that’s one mistake, and if they didn’t PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON HER themselves after they read it, that’s another.
I’ve decided that my second response to VOC’s story deserves its own post — and may actually require me to get on the phone and do some reporting to go with my analysis.
It’s also poorly writtten as it doesn’t get all the chips off the table. Her reach extended into West Hollywood, Oceanside and San Diego. No mention of that although I’m certain i stated some of that here. And the VOC didn’t right their story regarding duck duck goose (ie which Irvine attorneys were anonymously identified In melahatrat investigation) until I mentioned it here.
No offense but they are a bit green. I mean Brandon pho is a OC Press Club board member. I’ve got t-shirts older than him. Come on!!
LOL not joining in on the pile but…
I remember when about ten of us activists, around 2009-11, were fighting against the Great Fairgrounds Swindle (sale and privatization) and we were used to Norberto himself showing up at the Fair Board meetings and writing great articles about it. I think he was practically all of the Voice at that time.
Then one meeting some small young bespectacled shaggy-faced kid showed up instead. My comrade Greg Ridge bitched, “Where’s Norberto? And who’s this little Hipster?” And Adam Elmahrek did get a few things wrong in his first few Fairground Swindle stories.
A few years later he was our hero in Anaheim. Now he’s at the LA Times making the big bucks!
He and I talked once, I told him I was jealous that he got paid for what he did. And he told me he was jealous that I could cuss, make jokes, and give my opinion.
Trumpballoons
Tammy admits she knew Farrah Khan was in bed with Muslim nationalists and genocide deniers before she endorsed her re-election for Mayor.
Nice Islamic Latino collaboration Ada!!!! Bravo!!
Amna Qazi is Farrah khan’s friend. Pakistan Independence Day 2022 happened in Irvine.
https://www.meforum.org/64170/mef-investigation-reveals-los-angeles-police
https://youtu.be/VzBBNdpBfpM (They both spoke here)
https://youtu.be/Ye6tuNkvOlE (Aghayev addresses khan And qazi here)
https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/tn-wknd-et-muslim-latino-collaboration-20170203-story.html
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-arab-latino-adv-20160609-snap-story.html
https://ca.cair.com/losangeles/news/cair-las-press-conference-with-local-interfaith-and-civil-rights-on-trumps-executive-orders/
Flashback.
http://www.metnews.com/articles/2015/perspectives042715.htm
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-mar-13-me-nalbandian13-story.html
Are you sure that you want to make Farrah seem so sympathetic?
Any sympathy of which Farrah could have availed herself to has already been exhausted.
She thinks Ataturk is to be celebrated. She said so while standing in front of his banner at a public park in Irvine. “Turkey is progressing so much faster and better than other countries … because of Ataturk.” Oops
https://youtu.be/0YzJ_H6wgMQ
Ataturk is like Hitler but similar to Stalin, he got to live. Ottoman Turks idolized Germans. Ataturk is an architect of the genocide of Armenians, Assyrians, Greeks, Pontians and other Oriental Christians.
White nationalists baaaaaad. Muslim nationalists good. What warped obscene reality do you live in, oh myopic booby one??
As I’ve said before you are either terribly naive or uneducated or both.
Define BIG BUCKS please.
Giannis, for one.
I regret to inform you that if you want to ask questions about Adam’s LA Times salary, you have to use your real name rather than an organic chemistry term.
Have you ever been in a Muslim country oh myopic booby one? Do you have any relatives who have ever lived in a Muslim country? How do Muslims treat non-Muslim residents in their country? Better yet, how do Muslims treat their own. I’ve been to a Muslim country, moron. My family fled their homeland in a Muslim country and found refuge in another. And, one of my family members represented a Muslim country before foreign dignitaries and on foreign stages. You have no idea what you are talking about. Next, you’ll try to convince everyone you truly support Palestinian rights and a two state solution. Blah blah blah. You are a hypocrite and live in a fantasy world.
I’ve already come out for Palestinian rights and a two-state solution (with a viable Palestinian state that controls its own resources, you forgot to add) many times here. Do your due diligence, Counselor.
I see no way to treat the first 2-1/2 lines of your comment as anything other than arrant bigotry — which you’ve tried to justify as true based on your having lived in a Muslim country, found refuge in a Muslim country, and got a moral contact high from one of your relatives who represented a Muslin country. I can fully believe that you can no sense at all of how this argument makes you sound like a bigot.
Oh myopic booby one. No. You sound like a racist. A supremacist. You think you are entitled to choose Muslim NATIONALISTS over WHITE NATIONALISTS. I’ll tell you what there are more of the former. And, they don’t like your type neither. If Khan was in bed with neo-nazis and Holocaust deniers, you’d be singing a different tune. What you lack is empathy and any real experience on the subject. I’m going to assume your answers to the first 2 1/2 lines is in the negative. Umm Melahat was a refugee from a Muslim country. You truly are the oh myopic booby one.
You are among the last people I’d listen to about who “sounds” like a racist. I don’t get the sense you can hear over the bloodlust pumping in your ears.
What did I say, Lippy, that made you think I sound like a racist, let alone a “supremacist”? You think that there’s some problem with my not painting a group with a broad bad brush because “they don’t like my type”? “Citizens of the world” try to see the world outside of their personal grievances.
Saying that I “lack empathy” (presumably you solely mean “for Armenians,” because to you none of the other groups mentioned matter) is bizarre. I can completely understand why Armenians fear Turkey taking over Artsakh/Nagorno-Karabakh. I can understand why the massacre of Armenian intellectuals in 1915 still burns bright in your memory. I can understand why you would insist on the term “Holocaust” for that and Turkey’s subsequent actions — although I’d need to learn more to see why drafting lots of people into the military during World War 1, in which Turkey was a main combatant, is intended as invidious towards a particular group. (Maybe you can you can find my 85 cites to make the point, of which four-and-a-half will be worth reading.)
Farrah’s position on Turkey can, given your beliefs, fairly be taken to endanger (slightly) the Armenian community by weakening U.S. support of Armenia. (Although, I’ve got to say, having Putin’s on your side probably does a million more times more damage in that regard than Farrah’s worst efforts.) But for you “empathy” means that I have to hate Turks as much as you do, and I’m simply not going to do so. It doesn’t make me a fan, especially of Erdogan, but I’m just not going to hold contempt for an entire ethnicity. I don’t hold such contempt for all Germans and Austrians over the Nuremberg Laws and the ensuing Holocaust; I don’t hold such contempt for all Palestinians, or Arabs, or Muslims, because I’d like to see Israel continue to exist (in peace); and as for “choos[ing] Muslim NATIONALISTS over WHITE NATIONALISTS” — all I can say is what the hell is wrong with your brain?
You’re right that I would sing a different tune if Farrah were supporting Neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers — but not because I’m Jewish; I would because those beliefs are prevalent, potent, and form a serious thread to the whole world, the U.S. included, as part of the reactionary resurgence that has already taken over Hungary. Armenians vs. Azeris is not a conflict likely to set the world on fire, though I would certainly like the U.S. to use what good offices it can to promote a cease-fire and find a just resolution to the conflict. But you don’t seem to want a negotiated settlement. Do you want anything less than an Azeri Holocaust?
Yeah neo-Nazis and their beliefs are more dangerous than grey wolves and theirs. You obviously know not of what you speak. You need everyone else to believe that to keep your toochas safe. Lest I remind you, America was pro-Nazi or atleast neutral before it wasn’t.
Again, all you are doing is spewing propaganda and rhetoric. Russia and Azerbaijan and Turkey are aligned.
Puhleeze you are an equivocating waffler who resorts to moral equivalence to cover up your own biases and need I say racism.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/turkeys-growing-foreign-policy-ambitions
https://www.vice.com/en/article/epddna/turkey-france-armenia-grey-wolves-lyon
https://m.timesofindia.com/world/middle-east/will-the-grey-wolves-erdogans-long-arm-in-the-world-end-up-on-eu-and-us-terrorist-list/amp_articleshow/86357785.cms
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/countering-radical-right/turkish-extremist-group-grey-wolves-finds-a-favourable-climate-in-germany/
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2020/11/24/france-has-banned-the-grey-wolves-but-who-are-they
Queue this.
https://youtu.be/zDDzR2zSgsM
Did I say I lived in a Muslim country?? Wtf?!? Never said that.
So Cal in the hizzle.
You said below: “I’ve been to a Muslim country, moron. My family fled their homeland in a Muslim country and found refuge in another.”
You must have problems with legal interpretation, Lippy. If you say “I’ve been to a Muslim county” (whoop-de-doo!) and follow it with “My family did XYZ,” the implication is that you’re talking about your immediate family. Rather than “family,” you wanted a word like “forebears” or “ancestors.”
You’re also kind of sensitive about people being “morons.” Projection much?
Having been somewhere, is not living there. Keep it simple oh myopic booby one. You said I lived in a Muslim country. No legal interpretation required. I was born in Kkalyvood. And have lived exclusively in Southern California my whole life. Sheesh.
Reading comprehension problem, much??
Y’know, Lippy, seeing you spending so much time writing whiny comments that will never make it onto the blog does not have the sort of daunting effect upon me that you presumably seek.
Well there WAS the one today where he theorized that you and Dan are the same person – that was kind of intense.
Yeah, that was also the one where Lippy said “You are a coward among other things. You don’t publish all of my posts.”
Well, I suppose it’s either that or that I’m trying to contribute to our having a website here that doesn’t make readers eyes bleed and provoke them to smash their computers and/or phones. Surely, it’s gotta be one of those.
Honestly, how arrogant does one have to be to feel entitled to have his every grotesque insult published here? If he wants to have a reasonable complaint of censorship, he could start by not being completely loathsome in print.
And then terminal tedium set in.
Vern, if we are drinking, I’m buying. Until you make an ass out of one of us.
Don Wagner loves Pakistanis and Iranians! Yeah, sure he does.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=3109492562623557&id=1949850968587728
https://twitter.com/DonWagnerCA/status/1620213301065175040?cxt=HHwWgMDS5bfak_wsAAAA
What happened to this blog? It used to be so on top of the latest happening stuff. Looking at the comments on practically every post, it’s just a boxing ring between Greg Diamond and one obsessed lawyer and both seem to enjoy it. As a reader, it’s off putting. Just being honest.
The other thing is no open threads anymore, since two weeks. The articles that do get written are focused on Anaheim.
Since nobody is paying attention to the Supes, see yesterday’s news: Basically DA Spitzer wants to defund the Public Defender’s Office.
This blows. Why is this blog not putting this on blast?
From Voice of OC: “Orange County District Attorney Objects to Public Defender Grant Funds”
On Tuesday, Orange County’s top prosecutor publicly opposed a $4 million state grant to the county Public Defender’s office.
OC Supervisors unanimously voted to accept the grant that morning – the second round of such funding that would’ve otherwise gone routinely and without much discussion.
Until OC District Attorney Todd Spitzer objected.
The issue, according to him:
The grants would fund public defender programs to represent people for homicide resentencing and potential early parole for people convicted at a young age, as well as the vacating of prior convictions under certain circumstances.
Read more here:
Even Spitzer admitted he was indulging in empty performative babble, at the end of that story.
Meanwhile this DA, whom we’ve never seen prosecute political corruption (since early on throwing the book at Santa Ana Democrat Roman Reyna for residence-lying) and who is complaining here about not having enough resources to go after bad guys, is “expressing interest” in the self-funded Anaheim corruption investigation? And immediately that gets used by Council investigation-skeptics Meeks and Kurtz as “Why not just wrap the investigation up as it is and hand it over to Todd?”
Glad THAT got blown out of the water Tuesday night.
Yeah, that’s a death sentence: Let Todd Fix It!