1. The Statement
This story, I promise you, is going to be weird, but it’s also valid grist for reporting: James Mai, whom you may recall being discussed a bit on this blog last year, has given up his bid to be reappointed to Irvine’s Child Care Committee. That may not seem newsworthy by itself, but its notability involves what it may portend for his future — and thus for AAPI politics in OC (and beyond.) Here’s an email from him:
From: James Mai
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 12:48 AM
To: Traci Stubbler; Diana Magallon; Cc: Child Care Office; Cory Hilderbrand; Your Irvine
Subject: Thank you Irvine Childcare Members and CSC – James MaiI hope this finds you well!
Sorry for the delay, as I was on a business trip out-of-state for the past few weeks and just getting back. This message is regarding my application for reappointment to the Irvine Child Care Committee.
As you know, I am involved in many organizations within the community, county, and state. Things in my life are fluid as my time/bandwidth is limited (especially with volunteer work), and I often take on too much. As of this week, I was elected to serve as Chairman of a Children’s Foundation, which received an IRS 501c3 designation last month. I am still serving as Chairman for AAPI United focusing on victims of hate crimes and diversity issues. I am the new Vice Chairman of OC/LA Rotary Foundation, and now working with the UN and its local chapters. Because of the time commitment to these new roles, I would like to withdraw my application for appointment to the Irvine Child Care Committee.
I would like to thank the entire committee for voting on a recommendation for reappointment, last month.
Additionally, I would like to thank you for backing me despite the controversy of late, thank you for speaking up for me even at risk to your own well-being. Irvine Police Department has done an excellent job also, clearing any wrongdoing on my part (incident or act).The political attacks and smear campaigns, unfortunately, disrupted many of our meetings. It was very unfair for you as volunteers to be attacked by individuals on a personal and professional level; no one should go through that or ever be threatened. I believe these attacks on you will cease now that I am no longer part of the committee. Still, I remember the times before all of this, and it was productive and fun working with you all on these critical issues for children in the city. My sons thought it was “awesome” that dad was helping other parents and kids in the town.
I’ve enjoyed the past two years with each and every member of the committee, and we made an impact on many parents in the community. This was a goal I strived to achieve (and the entire reason for being part of this committee) when I volunteered to be a parent representative. As you know, my community-based group, “Irvine Life,” has over 12,000 members/parents in Irvine – the information I learned at our meetings and subsequently passed to the community, helped many people seeking answers and resources. I will continue to provide information from the city to the community that my organization(s) supports, including working with children at CHOC and advocating for Autistic children, and their parents, many in Irvine.
This experience also reaffirmed what I have always said, Irvine is the best place to raise a family and has fantastic resources provided to residents, especially for new parents and those with small children. I wish you all the best of luck and thank you for your commitment to improving the lives of others and the future – our children.
I don’t have everyone’s email so please send them my regards and/or this email. A special shout out to Donna Schwartze, your many years of service to the community and children has been inspiring. Thank you for all you do.
It was fun working with you all!
James Mai
2. The Interpretation
There’s a lot to unpack here, so let’s get to it.
- Smooth. Mai is as smooth here as he was when I met him in person. He’s quite good at impression management. In fact, that’s why I think that he’s still a story. Working for a united voice among all Asians — or at least East, Southeast, and South Asians (with Central, Gulf, and West Asians left out for now, and North Asians being Russian) is, on its face, a good thing. But “smooth” is not necessarily a good thing in someone ambitious and aiming to fill a gap in the power structure. (You know who else was really smooth? A woman named Melahat Rafiei — who is poised to reenter polite society on a victory and contrition tour, re-establishing her empire, if she can make things break her own way.
- His Busy Life. He’s back from a long trip! He notes his busy life. What’s keeping him busy?
Chairman of a Children’s Foundation, which received an IRS 501c3 designation last month.
Still serving as Chairman for AAPI United focusing on victims of hate crimes and diversity issues.
New Vice Chairman of OC/LA Rotary Foundation, and now working with the UN and its local chapters.
This would appear to be the delightful resume-stuffing of a successful person whom media and politicians might consider calling upon as a source on issues of the day regarding Asian Americans. But is it? “AAPI United” itself didn’t seem to add up to much once I started looking into it. (Vern made me stop doing that, once he got sick of the story.) [VERN: I DID???] But I recall from that research there were serious questions about AAPI United itself — whether it was simply a Potemkin village, or perhaps the sort of sham charity that gets people into trouble. His “South Asian Director” — critical to him after his having pissed off the Hindu community — never answered my email. So I suspect that we’re going to find out that there is much less to this “busy” designation than meets the eye.
As for the other two, I presume that the unnamed “Children’s Foundation” may either be corrected to AAPI or cut from the same cloth. As for the OC/LA Rotary Foundation, I recall my previous research suggesting that it was “not a thing.”
I don’t present this information out of any antipathy for the Asian/Pacific Islander communities (yes, plural) of OC. I’m married into the latter, after all, and strongly support of Jay Chen and his work with the Taiwanese community. (People without the guts to use their own names seem to love to criticize Jay. I suspect that they’re no more Asian than I am.) I present it because if this guy is going to appoint himself to be the vanguard and tribute on the AAPI community, I want to satisfy the very real questions I have about what he’s doing and why. My antennae would be up at this point even if it weren’t for his bragging about a (probably non-existent, but who knows?) hate crime against Hindus.
- Thanking his Supporters. I can’t blame his fellow members of this committee for backing him up — especially if he’s a con man and their convinced by him. (Convincing people is what con artists do. Ask Melahat.) But were they really “backing him up,” as opposed to reserving judgment and coping in the meanwhile? I tend to think it’s the latter — and if any of them have really faced “a risk to their own well-being” for not immediately pillorying him before a police report came in, then I want to hear all about it, because that should never have happened. The “thanks to the entire committee for voting to reappoint me” seems to me like a statement that “by the way, you’re all complicit, and any attack on me is an attack on you as well!” No, it really isn’t: he knew information that they did not.
- Thanking the Police.
This bit is truly Melahat-level shamelessness. The police did not “clear” Mai of any “wrongdoing”; they didn’t find evidence that he had committed the heinous act of desecrating a Hindu-owned restaurant. This was despite the fact that this ironically self-professed opponent of Anti-Asian Hate (which includes Hindus!) bragged about it on the Internet. The police didn’t find anything — as was true of my own prior investigation — because he probably didn’t do it. (Hence my calling him the “Hate Crime Braggart” rather than “Hate Crime Committer.” But the IPD neither considered nor “cleared him” of the offense — which absolutely did happen, by his own omission — of posting a claim on the Internet (a copy of which was later sent to Mrs. Cameron) that he had indeed performed this vile act of desecration. I think one can fairly argue that making this claim publicly does put fear in the Hindu community, and as such may itself constitute a hate crime — but the Irvine police weren’t going to get into that. I’ll put it this way: if he had bragged that he had poured pork blood into the brisket served an Irvine synagogue’s event, IPD would probably have found a way not only to investigate to see if it was true, but also to find a way to charge him with something even if he had been lying about it. (An intentional infliction of emotional distress civil suit would be possible for up to one year.) So Mai — again, a supposed anti-Hate Crime crusader! — does not understand that falsely telling someone that one has committed a hate crime against a group to which they belong is wrong, especially if the person in question has a disability that would make them especially likely to believe and transmit that information. (Mai has perplexingly claimed that he did this to “test” Mrs. Cameron’s loyalty to him. Well: test completed, chump!)
As I’ll mention later on, I think that there was a smear campaign against Mai, but it was a small and largely ineffectual part of the complaints. I haven’t viewed the meetings, but to the extent that people were calling on Committee members to remove him from the committee over what he did, that may in some general sense be a “political attack” in that he had a political role and done something to warrant an attack, but it was not a “smear campaign”; nor was it “disruptive” of committee business, because being responsive to such complaints are part of Committee business. As before, he is trying to tie himself to the welfare of the Committee members.
This is a good place to consider what Mai could have done instead. He could have issued a sincere apology, without trying to justify his behavior, and then asked for forgiveness.
This would have required his explaining why he concocted his story in the first place. That graphic of him didn’t descend to Earth on a cloud from Heaven, after all; someone had to make it! It seems obvious that his intent was to convey an image of himself as powerful, wily, vengeful, and not to be messed with. In other words, while he was part of the anti-Trumpublican faction of Republicans in his area, he was adopting the same sort of chest-thrusting braggadocio that Trump has used to appeal to others. He should have admitted it, recognized that it was wrong, acknowledged the harm done, recognized that it undercut his own credibility as an anti-Hate activist, asked for forgiveness, tried to make amends, and promised to do better in the future. This isn’t brain surgery; it’s just honest contrition. Instead, he decided to tough it out — and any emotional damage to other committee is entirely on his own tab — as is the considerable compounded interest from his not departing right away.
- By the Way, I Still Have Political Clout Here
You may consider this next point uncharitable of me, but again I have a lot of experience with Melahat. When he says:
As you know, my community-based group, “Irvine Life,” has over 12,000 members/parents in Irvine – the information I learned at our meetings and subsequently passed to the community, helped many people seeking answers and resources. I will continue to provide information from the city to the community that my organization(s) supports
I read it as “I am still around, I am still going to be involved in city politics (and perhaps beyond), and I have extensive reach into the community that form a base for my future political influence.” If he didn’t want to give this impression, he could disband his “group,” hand over control of it to someone who is at arm’s length from him (rather than a supporters), and forswear use of the hefty mailing list he has compiled. My prediction is that he won’t promise do any of it — or that if he does so, he won’t follow through with the latter two conditions that might undercut his own political influence. (Note that I would not argue that he was entitled to do this has he contritely apologized from the outset; I do so because he has demonstrated to be a sharp dealer who only concedes power under massive duress.)
James Mai with defeated Irvine City Council candidate John Park.
3. So How Do We Describe What Has Happened Here?
I’m going to come back later and address what term I think we should use for what James Mai did with his little scenario — as well as what his allies who are pseudonymously attacking Hindus (and their allies) over their criticism of Mai. (Admittedly, there have been Hindus who have attacked Mai pseudonymously as well, but this hasn’t happened in the larger context of someone fantasizing a hate crime as revenge on someone from another religion and culture.)
That perfect term is surprisingly hard to pin down, and I invite people to submit their thoughts in comments. But, I think that what I’ve already written is enough to chew on for now. For now, I’m going to use the term “bigoted bullying.”
Is this act of bigoted bullying enough to want someone to be removed (or induced to retire) from all commission posts? I would answer by flipping the question on its head: is it OK to have people on commissions decide serious questions of people’s fate when they’ve sent around stories crowing of having retaliated against someone by desecrating their business — like smearing a synagogue with pig’s blood?
I think that, put that way, the answer is clearly “no” — it is NOT OK. And so — expecting that Supervisors Sarmiento and Foley would likely agree with me — it is incumbent on Supervisors Wagner, Chaffee, and Do to say why it IS OK. (Frankly, as Supervisor Do comes from the Vietnamese community, I’d think it is up to him to take the lead on this question of intra-Asian relations. Chaffee has shown that he won’t; Wagner has shown that maybe he can’t.) Remember, the offense here is not simply posting the story or DM’ing it to an autistic woman who was likely to freak out about it and wonder how to respond — it was about literally making up a graphic celebrating his doing such an evil deed in the first place.
Left to his own devices, a cool and canny political aspirant like James Mai may turn out quite successful. Do we, as a county, just shrug in the face of this and let him go on doing his thing? Does anyone really think that his “Anti-Asian Hate” group is something that the county or any city should be encouraging?
The right thing to do is to repent, resign, and then perhaps someday retry. Isn’t it, Supervisors?
James Mai is one sick individual. After reading all the articles, it’s amazing he hasn’t been diagnosed a sociopath. This is a perfect example of when the cover up is worse than the (imaginary) crime. After the screenshots were circulated,he published the witness’s home address and suggested guys go to her house for turtle soup. (Which isn’t soup from a turtle). It’s a miracle she wasn’t raped. How it even got this far is scary. There has to be a way to prevent him from being around disabled or autistic people. Any agency that allows him to volunteer would be responsible if he hurt someone physically, because the history is all out there. There needs to be some way to protect kids and special needs adults from people like this guy.
Far more vile people are more popular than him in Irvine and Orange County.
If he is so successful and has so many folks In his corner, why not run for city council where he could really help the/his community. Irvine likes electing rascists of Asian descent. He’s fit right in on the dais.
I suspect he is engaging in puffery. I’ve lived in Irvine for two decades or more, never heard of the guy until the Cow Head scandal. He is going to need an army larger than 12k.
He has a false sense of who he is which explains why he has been alleged to have attached Esq. to his name. He is not nobility or a knight or an attorney or councilor. Is he British? Methinks not.
https://jamesmai.com/
He is a pretender.
Wow, what a victim he is.
Oh, God. Not more of this shit.
David Zenger, there are some comments about you on another OC blog which you may want to read . Besides, no opinion of yours is taken seriously When you say no more of this shit, tell that to Hindus offended by Mai’s posts or Cameron who got doxxed and threatened by him. The goal is to get Mai away from at-risk, vulnerable people and the way to do that is to keep agitating for his removal.
I don’t remember you ever saying “no more of this shit” about Jordan Brandman. This is a situation that started out in a similar way, but is still a threat to Cameron because of being cyberstalked by James Mai. So maybe go read the Sunday paper or amuse yourself with midget porn. Or hit up Liberal OC to see what they think of you.
Trust and believe this issue is important to those affected by it. Cameron’s safety is still at stake, and there could be harm to the new occupants of her old apartment because the address is still posted on social media. What if some random person actually shows up there? You are utterly clueless.
Aside from the other merits your comment may have, nobody on this blog gives a damn what anonymous trolls on the Liberal OC say about us.
Oh, boohoo. I am sick of this shit and I don’t give a rat’s ass about Irvine.
Spend your time on ChemLew’s cesspool and see what you get out of it. You might find it more enjoyable than midget porn.
Just skip it, Zenger. This was a legitimate news development, which may portend an even bigger one down the line. You don’t need to follow it.
Hmm. I see a bunch of people with cooked up names jabbering on about who knows what.
Eric, you are barmy obsessed with the Muslim Pakistani Irvine Mayor so much you cannot comment on any topic without sneaking in some reference to her. You spoken five separate times last Tuesday alone, but never about this bugger.
I think Cameron shall appreciate if you open your mouth about James Mai at some official City event, they have one practically every week. Us Hindus will appreciate it too. Vik.
As I say in this story, my concern about him is that he has the makings of a really successful con artist in OC politics, along the lines of Melahat. (Jordan Brandman didn’t “write his own material,” but Mai seems to.) And to the extent that he has wanted to make his mark by bashing people of Indian ancestry, while (grotesquely) portraying himself as an opponent of anti-Asian Hate, it’s worth hounding him about it until and unless he shows signs of reform.
I don’t know that he’s capable of feeling remorseful and expressing it with grace. But, as I often said of Jordan, I’d be happy to see him come around to sanity.
Are you saying Jordan Brandman didnt compose that vicious text, he just typed it ? Not following you when you say he “didnt write his own material”.
Mai definitely wrote the stuff about the cow’s head. It still remains to be determined who “Shahn Khan” is. Have you considered the theory that he is the same person who referred to in your first article as the “Asian Vengeance”?
The series of illiterate vicious texts was from Jordan early one morning. That’s one of many clues that all the polished, histrionic tomes put out under his name were not written by him but by his handler Melahat, such as:
His florid, trauma-porn Black Lives Matter resolution, focusing obsessively on the suffering of George Floyd, and created to supplant Dr Moreno’s resolution because that called for accountability for Anaheim’s PD.
His long overwrought post calling me racist and all kinds of other names for making a song criticizing Avelino Valencia and Harry Sidhu.
And the half-assed “apology” for those vicious text.
I was actually thinking of writing a nostalgia post about all that now that Melahat is back in the news.
That’s a horrible way to motivate someone to lobby for you Vik. You obviously are paying attention to my activism. And, I spoke 3 times at the last city council meeting. One time re agendized items 5.2, 5.6 and 5.8, one time on non-agendized items and once on special meeting agendized item 2.1 (melahatrat investigation by Irvine resolution). Get your facts straight.
And, speak for yourself. The fish rots at the head and the head is rotten. If the council won’t censure the mayor over her anti-Armenian conduct what makes you think they’ll act on Mai? Didn’t you get your ask? Mai bowed out of his own volition. Sheesh.
James Mai is still on the Irvine Community Alliance Fund, which is administered by the City of Irvine itself. He also is still listed as being on the OC Housing and Community Development Commission. They canceled their last meeting after they received some emails about him.
The bottom line is this: Mai needs to get out of public office completely. He’s a total disgrace. After seeing this email of his and realizing he’s affiliated with the OC Chapter of the UN Association, we decided to email them also.
https://unausa.org/chapter/orangecounty/
Here is the contact information for their Chapter President Isabel Treidl isaloto@yahoo.com.mx
As to the Rotary, Mai is only there because of John Park. Once I find an actual email address of someone there, I’ll come back and post it. I thought it was weird they claim to do volunteer work at Mary’s Kitchen, because from this blog’s other posts, the kitchen was shut down. https://orange-rotary.org/page/mary-s-kitchen
Aarti Kaushal Chopra has been getting harassed on a daily basis since Monday. She’s Kathleen Treseder’s appointee to the Child Care Committee. So Aarti is considered a City Official now. She should consider filing a Harassment claim against James Mai first thing tomorrow.
Apparently Mai is targeting her nonprofit, BeSanskriti by trolling her Facebook and Instagram posts.
Also an Irvine woman named Susanna Stopani Cooper aka Suzanna Stopani Flores is harassing Aarti. If the name sounds familiar, its because she was John Park’s campaign mananger. I’m curious if this is the same “Cooper” who is commenting on LiberalOC about someone’s court dates, which are irrelevant to James Mai or his supposed hate crime and the cyberstalking of first Cameron and now Aarti Chopra.
Unsurprisingly, Suzanna Stopani was vehemently against the proposed “Hero’s Pay” Measure that the City of Irvine wanted to pass. https://irvine.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=&event_id=1749&meta_id=113215
Here’s what Suzanna wrote: “I am deeply opposed to the proposed a $4 pay increase for grocery workers for the so-called Hero Pay. This is essentially a tax increase by edict. This is an attack on free enterprise and will surely will a lawsuit against the City. You forget that without our businesses, there would be no jobs. We need our businesses to function without impediment and without government sticking its nose where it doesn’t belong. No hero’s pay! Haven’t our businesses suffered enough????”
Actually, Suzanna the community has suffered enough from James Mai. It’s wild after researching you to find out [redacted by editors]
But that’s neither here nor there. Maybe you should set up a GoFundMe page to send James Mai to India for a few months. He will surely come back Reformed – if he makes it home in one piece.
The only reason I wanted to shine the spotlight on Suzanna Stopani Cooper/ Flores is due to her deep ties with both James Mai and John Park and the fact that she’s now harassing Aarti Kaushal Chopra. Between the cyberbullying by Shahn Khan and Suzanna Stopani, Aarti is withdrawing from her role as Cameron’s unpaid spokeswoman.
Cameron is depending on people to be her voice, but as long as those volunteering to do it get cyberbullied, noone is going to stick around. Cameron needs an attorney or something to advocate for her. This is getting over the top, with Suzanna now posting Cameron’s dates at HJC, on the LiberalOC. Go see for yourselves.
Where is Niki Mai in all this ?
What happened to Bindi Brahmbatt?
#JamesMai appears to finally have registered his charity #AAPIUnited with the CA Attorney General’s Office. His EIN
(Federal Tax ID No) remains same 86-3845526. Use it to keep tabs on him.
Strangely, the non profit have no Board of Directors! It is James Mai and his multiple personalities, but they are all named James Mai too!
Here is CA Secretary of State records
https://bizfileonline.sos.ca.gov/search/business
Here is from Attorney General’s Office https://rct.doj.ca.gov/Verification/Web/Details.aspx?result=cb605eed-c59f-4be3-8fa7-a4ceda7c217e
He did not bother to file until some Hindus raised Hell. Yes, Hindus had a Cow. Yes, I did just say that. Moving on, he claims in the state registration that he did not have revenue until Jan 2022. Yet, his social media in summer of 2022 says he raised $200,000 in the “past year”. So where are all the unaccounted funds going!?
Would it be possible to send 87,000 Armed IRS agents to his home?
If you post here under the name you’ve chosen, which apparently baselessly suggests that Mai is a pedophile, I’m going to change your name. I’d dump the comment altogether except that the information it contains does deserve to see the light of day. Please stop shooting yourself in the food by undermining your criticism with baseless accusations.
Legal question to Greg Diamond: Can #JamesMai have a nonprofit without a Board of Directors? Also on the #AAPIUnited Facebook page it lists email address for the nonprofit as james@bristolbates.com.
Why should anyone care? Well, for starters, he is still on the City of Irvine Community Alliance Fund, where he serves as Board Member. So, he should be knowing the drill. If willfully not complying with nonprofit laws how can he be entrusted on the ICAF?
See my above comment about your use of that pseudonym. It would be a shame to lose your comments here just because you’re deliberating making scurrilous charges by implication.
No, I don’t see how one could have a non-profit with only one person. I think that the minimum is two officers — including an independent treasurer, but this is not intended as legal advice as it’s not my area of expertise. I’ve been told that it’s good form to have at least 4-5 Directors on a non-profit board, but I don’t know what if any legal requirement exists. I have a wonderful attorney who advises me on these things, but I don’t contact him solely for a comment.
Hi, this blog was just brought to my attention. I’d like to clarify some things stated here.
First, yes, I did reach out to Ms Chopra in one message to confirm what a recent post said, but there was no harassment. I simply asked her if she was taking over this movement against Mai, as stated in a public post.
After another post accused Mai of harassing Ms Chopra, I wanted to ensure she knew it wasn’t him, so I sent a second message. This is the last message I sent her.
“Hi, apparently they are accusing James Mai of harassing you. My real name is on my profile. I am not James Mai. I am just trying to get facts for documentation purposes. To clarify, Im only trying to confirm the information given in the post. I am not out to harass you. I just want to make sure I am only documenting facts. If you do not want to answer the question, that’s fine, too. I will still document it, but leave it as unverified. Just looking for an answer either way.”
So there was no harassment. Just simply trying to verify facts (since nobody else seems willing to do) She did not respond so I have to assume she prefers not to answer, which is fine.
Second, my brother.. [redacted by editors]
Third, I do not know, nor have I ever made or attempted any contact with Cameron or any of her 9 or 10 aliases. I am not, have not, and would not ever cyber bully anyone. Again, this information is not accurate.
I don’t see the Hindi community rallying at Irvine city council meetings against James Mai. There is no mechanism to remove Mai from his post(s) in the city’s municipal ordinance. Vik, talk to me when the Hindi community groups and members stop bolstering Mayor Khan. She is a far bigger problem and threat to civility and governance than Mr. Mai.
I’d like to know why my statement about my brother was redacted. It’s a fact that he is not a sex offender. He is a special needs individual whom I care for in my home. He has never been outside of CA and spends most of his days in a wheelchair. As far as I know, I have and have never had family in NY.
Additionally, you removed the part of my last message in which I state I am not, have not, nor would I ever cyber bully Cameron or anyone else.
Hopefully you will post this message. I think it’s unfair to selectively post my message and leave out other parts.
When I saw that some other commenter had posted about your brother, I redacted that. And then I redacted your response to that. That’s all I redacted. Carry on…
As General Masaharu Homma said to the Americans on the way to Camp O’Donnell.
I haven’t seen this much rage from Hindus back in India where there is a real problem going on against hindus. Leave Hindus out of American politics. James Mai is not the guy Hindus should be focusing on. What kind of circus is going on here? Whoever is doing this has made me and Hindus both scapegoats for his/her nefarious political gain. This must stop. If you care about hinduphobia go and find someone else other than James mai. You, clowns, are irritating me to the core for pitting Hindus against James mai.
What’s your understanding of why we are criticizing James Mail for his stance — to use a broad term that won’t give hints — regarding Hindus.
The facts behind his actions evoking this criticism really aren’t in doubt.
There are things to criticize about the reactions of Hindus towards him — such as this seemingly baseless fixation on calling him a pedophile — but the basic grievance is quite solid — and he has never apologized for what he did.
Eric Nashanian, James Mai is not Farrah Khan. Yes, her comments about the Armenian Genocide are deplorable and her association with the governments of Turkey and Azerbaijan are very troubling.
Yet you are choosing to overlook one fact, which is that one can still speak out against Mayor Khan the way you do and maintain a life and maintain ones personal security.
To date EVERY person who has publicly spoken against James Mai has found themselves the target of threats on social media, and at times by text and email. James Mai really is a terrorist in the textbook sense of the word.
The female to become his most recent target is Aarti Kaushal Chopra, herself recently appointed to the Irvine Child Care Committee. Ms Chopra told James Mai’s first victim, Cameron that her social media was being trolled by a Shahn Khan. If you’ve been paying attention that name should be familiar. Shahn Khan is the name used by a very vicious person or group of persons. They recently set their account to private just yesterday. Other women harassed include Sonal, the organizer of Shame Hate which fell apart because she was pregnant and could not take the verbal abuse on her social media pages. The next target after Sonal became a woman named Priya, who just showed up to a City Council meeting with Aarti.
And we all know how things went for Cameron.
If you are asking why Hindus (not HINDIS, at least learn this difference) didn’t show up by the hundreds, it’s because this wasn’t really about Hinduism, at least not in the general sense. It was about cyberbullying and witness retaliation.
You missed that at least one Hindu family threatened in writing to sue. You missed that an email Listserve was created that included both the President of the Irvine Mandir and Richard Steinberg a Jewish Rabbi who is also the head of the Interfaith Council.
You missed the fact that many concerned citizens called and questioned why James Mai was allowed to serve.
You choose to ignore the fact that Kathleen Treseder, a political novice with very little public service experience took out Anthony Kuo, the well funded incumbent. Irvine voters were watching the social media drama and realized the nexus between Kuo and Mai and John Park and voted accordingly.
You, on the other hand are still screaming for Farrah’s head on a platter and where has it gotten you? She’s laughing in your face from the dais. Stop insulting the #DumpJamesMai movement. It worked. I participated in many of the email campaigns as time permitted.
Your quest to remove Farrah is as successful as the alt-right’s movement 2021 movement to overthrow the Republic majority Board of Supervisors. Let it go.
Sometimes results are achieved by different paths.
I just looked through all my emails and found one where Sonal Kher (she always used her first and last name) wrote everyone on the listserve saying she responded to a comment by Eric to call her and when she did, she got a earful about Farrah Khan. Apparently Eric wanted the Shame Hate movement to coalesce with his own agenda.
Individuals associated with Shame Hate may not have been a fan of Muslims or Islam, but attacking the religion or Farrah Khan wasn’t their priority. She had the same complaint about Mark Newgent.
At various times, both Mark and Eric and other anti- Farrah Khan people approached Shame Hate by writing to Sonals email or tweeting her in the hopes of forming an alliance to benefit their agenda. They never offered to help Sonal or ShameHateOC in any meaningful way.
So Eric, sorry not sorry. Your motives were less than pure. I was on the Exposing Hinduphobia listserve for most of the time that it lasted. They abandoned the movement in late November and Aarti took over the listserve through her own email address. So they just passed the torch.
So you can criticize all you want, but the fact is Farrah Khan is still there and James Mai is history in Irvine.
Again, not a great way to encourage people to get behind you.
I thought Jame Mai was still on the City of Irvine Community Alliance Fund, where he serves as Board Member. Again, there is no mechanism for council members to remove committee members who are considered city employees.
I wrote to Hahn when Mai was set to appear in Cerritos and commended Ms. Cameron when she stood up for herself and addressed the council. Why don’t you speak up for yourself with your real name. Coward much.
If the Hindi community wasn’t collectively outraged, why should anyone else be. Hindus embrace Khan and rail against others so we all get to pick and choose our battles.
I have no idea who Dove Cameron or Sonnai are and I don’t deal with folks on the phone. As I recall neither of those people were willing to consult in person. I don’t deal with strangers. And Farrah has fled from the dais on two occasions when I’ve spoke. I’m sure I’ve rattled her. Her re-election is just more opportunities to swat at the piñata til the candy comes tumbling out as far as I’m concerned.
You must have missed this swamp thing. Armenians at city hall. Khan’s absence from the event demonstrates how much she wants to build a relationship with the Armenian community, stands with the Armenian community and she is aligned with the Armenian Community.
https://twitter.com/tammykimOC/status/1618705207474655233?cxt=HHwWgsDQ-erz5fYsAAAA
Eric,I’m a resident of Irvine and a member of all Irvine resident Facebook groups. Savannah is my real name. Why would Sonal tell us this about you and Mark Newgent if you never had contact with her? Back in the fall, you commented on this exact blog for her to contact you multiple times.
I’m sorry your tactics aren’t working. This is not a Hindu issue it’s a women’s rights or #MeToo issue.
I don’t care how many Armenians do or don’t show up at City Hall. The #DumpJamesMai movement got real results. You sound like a sore loser. Maybe switch up your game a little. Good luck.
Listen swamp thing. The microagression with spelling my last name reflects poorly on you. I’m flattered that you are keeping tabs and score but I disagree with your tally. Carry on.
https://www.ocregister.com/2022/06/24/irvine-mayors-efforts-to-repair-relations-with-armenian-community-could-lead-to-memorial-school-curriculum/amp/
~Jail~
The walls screamed poetry disease & sex
an inner whine like a mad machine –
dropped in a
cave of roaches
or rodents
The Computer
faces of the men
The wall collage
reading matter
The Traders (dealers)
~~~
I am a guide to the labyrinth
Come & see me
in the green hotel
Rm. 32
I will be there after 9:30 p.m.
I will show you the girl of the ghetto
I will show you the burning well
I will show you strange people
haunted, beast-like, on the
verge of evolution
-Fear The Lords who are
secret among us
~~~
Leaving the phone-booth, I was
Struck by a whiff of
the weird.
Insane old country woman
come to nag the haunts
of town
Hairy legs w/open sores.
From what swamp or under-rock
did you crawl to remind
us what we choose
to leave
~~~
Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1.
Queue Fear “I don’t care about you”
https://youtu.be/PyM4uAJBujA
October 24th, 2022
To: exposinghinduphobia@gmail.com
Dear Sonal,
Please stop e-mailing my firm’s e-mail address with your #stophate propaganda. I am not your attorney. If you would like to retain my services, please call my office and set up a in person consultation. Please stop sending e-mail to my firm’s e-mail address. I am not your attorney. If you need legal advice, please seek the assistance of an attorney.
Thank you.
Eric Marcus Neshanian, Esq.
Seems like old news, Eric. Hasn’t she stopped whatever you say she was doing over the past two months? And she hasn’t been here for months either. Are you just running out of fresh material?
As for the Morrison lyrics/poem — does that have anything to do with this topic, or should I move it to an Open Thread?
The facsimile of the email to Sonnal and the poem and song are rebuttal to Savannah or commentary (colour) regarding the wackos this thread brought out from the shadows and their insensitivity towards others. You can do what ever you want to my posts as you see fit oh myopic booby one as I have no control over your arbitrary capriciousness.
Personally, this whole Mai thing seems like a false flag operation to distract the masses and lizard brains.
Eric NOshownian,I collected signatures from other UCI students that were presented to City. Hindu Community achieved more than you. Your attack on Sonal is not right as she left the movement after cyberbullying from James Mai. I also received email from Sonal as did everyone on listeria. Eric NoShownian wanted everyone to come protest Farrah, but this Mayor was on our team when it came to Mai.
So, Eric I inform you Sonal is a lady OF honor who made more of an impact on Irvine than you. As well, I am certain same people who came up with nickname for Mai can find one for you, but you may not fancy it much.
LOL he called you No-Show-nian!
PS Greg, you wanna cut off these comments after #50 or what?
That’s strange. They have all been watching my show obviously. Lol! It was mildly entertaining though.
Sounds reasonable. You can take over and do as you wish.
How did this become about me?
Funny Amit Dave, any news articles about your activism or a formal response from the city, Mayor or council members.
Sounds to me like I have jealous critics.
This was the only traction re James Mai that was publicised. I’m not sure the source is subject to judicial notice and the journalism is suspect. Mai didn’t do what he said he did. It was a hoax. Carry on angry ones!!
https://www.loscerritosnews.net/2022/09/26/hate-in-cerritos-cerritos-commissioner-attended-event-hosted-by-hate-crime-perpetrator/
The problem turned pretty quickly from being “he did it” to “he bragged about having done it” — i.e., from hate crime to hate speech. And no, this was no “false flag”; be smarter than that.
Readers of the other #JamesMaiHateCrime articles may recall Eric Neshanian repeatedly commenting for Sonal (specifically) to email him. He was seeking not to forge a mutually beneficial alliance, but to drag the ShameHateOC movement into his obsessive campaign against Mayor Khan. At some point, Sonal apparently chose “the enemy of my enemy” tactic and appealed to Farrah Khan, as did some people from the local Hindu temple. This offended Eric and he still holds a grudge.
Those of you rattled by Eric, remember the empty kettle whistles the loudest. Keep doing your thing and ignore the haters. It’s a distraction. There is a reason Savannah isn’t responding. I came here in the hopes of urging readers to calm down and hopefully avoid what will inevitably morph into something that will blow up in Eric’s face.
Just be nice to everyone, that’s how humankind makes progress. And if you can’t say something nice don’t say anything at all.
Calming down seems wise. Thanks for the information about Sonal, who I’m sure enjoys not being in these lie fights.
That’s a useful summary, April; thanks.
Yes, it is a disclosure that some behind the ShameHate movement aligned with Farrahkhan. Lol!!
I was asked to come here and comment, but I’m writing my own words, based on what I witnessed. I have not spoken to Sonal, nor has anyone that I know of. Here is my recollection. Eric repeatedly begged Sonal to contact him. The comments are on the other James Mai articles on this blog. I was also a part of the listserve and privy to the developments. At some point, Sonal reached out to Eric at his invitation and emailed us saying he wanted to recruit her into his campaign against Farrah. Sonal declined because she wanted to hyper focus on getting James Mai out. It seems Sonal perceived Farrah Khan as useful, so it’s like “the enemy of my enemy” thing.
Nobody was obligated to forge an alliance with you, Eric. Sorry you are still nursing your wounds. Posting misogynist comments isn’t helping your reputation, even when you wrap them in the context of a song. We see what’s going on.
In this world, you get back what you put out. To those offended by Eric consider the source. Don’t feed trolls.
None of what Chiara is saying true. I cite back to my email to Sonnal telling her to stop pounding my firm email with her propaganda. See above. I was already leary of Sonnal and Dove as there seemed to be no groundswell from the community alleged to have been offended. Carry on!!
The unhinged attacks on the organiser of the since disbanded #shamehateoc are saddening.
In a world of #JamesMai’s and #EricNeshanian’s be a Sonal !
If you ask me Farrah has convinced some wackos to troll me.
Umm i used to have Pauly shore pick on me in grade school.
Needless to say, I’ve got thick skin.
Bash away!
https://youtu.be/plFOeIW5b_g
If I didn’t have such an impact, then why did Sonnal think she could horsetrade allegiance with khan for traction with Mai.
Looks like Khan stabbed Sonnal in the back as all y’all are
Bellyaching about others not forging an allegiance with Sonnal or Cameron. Wahwahwah.
I guess khan has convinced y’all that if you raz me, she’ll help you. Yeah, good luck with that.
If your elected officials are notoriously lying racists, you shouldn’t be to surprised when that racism permeates committee appointments.
Sonnal wanted to focus on Mai and I wanted to focus on Khan. We never had common interests. And, she didn’t understand that only political pressure would affect any change as council members had no power to fire committee members as they are city employees under the municipal ordinance regarding ethics. If you haven’t noticed, khan is rather isolated now despite her re-election. Keep on sleeping with her, see where that gets you. So far nothing.
OK that’s it people! 54 comments on this is enough. Hope you got everything out of your systems!