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When Dean Inada and I walked in to vote in the California Democratic Party elections yesterday at about 5 p.m. — I had been carrying around a small sign trying to induce people to read the “Closing Argument” I published yesterday afternoon in favor of Kimberly Ellis, while he was waiting to vote so as to try to give someone whom he had promised would first have the opportunity to lobby him — we came across a scene that was so bizarre as to be comical.
There were a couple of dozen or more booths for people to register based upon their last name. Most were empty or almost so. But one of them had a line that had literally as many people waiting in it as all of the rest combined. It was two or three tables away from the line that I was in, “Da-Dr” (or something) and there was someone who looked like a party staffer guiding people like a traffic cop to the left (with very few tables) or the right (with very many.) I believe that the sign for that line began with “Ca” as in California.
I laughed at the notion that so many delegates might have names like “Cabrera,” “Callahan,” and “Cantor” and why they were voting as a flock. (I’m not laughing now.) When I asked the supposed staffer who was waiving people in one or the other direction why there were SO many people in that line, he simply ignored me. Well, that sometimes happens.
I thought nothing more of it because I had not yet been processed and found that I needed to have no identification other than my signature. I had not yet known that what I’d heard were 260o-odd legitimately registered delegates who somehow produced 2900-plus votes. I had not yet learned that Eric Bauman would claim victory in the Chair’s race by 62 votes when projections had had him down by almost 400. And most importantly, I had not yet read an email from a Bay Area attorney named Rafael Trujillo where he wrote of hearing of a plan by a club of voters in San Francisco to do something much like this.
I wasn’t thinking about ballot fraud, but now I am. I was not recalling that one way to create ballot fraud in an otherwise generally honest organization was to create ONE BAD APPLE — one bad table that would facilitate everyone getting through, with no Registrar of Voters to serve as a backstop.
Luckily, while those signatures aren’t MUCH identification, they are probably enough. They can be cross-checked against the actual signatures of the people who voted with those who are supposed to have voted, either based on their legitimately holding a seat themselves or being the lawfully appointed proxy of someone who was.
And we use signed ballots, so we can also see who fraudulent voters (IF any) voted for — and subtract out their votes and see whether that changes the outcome of any elections.
I know that some people will say that it is wrong to even suggest the possibility of voter fraud in our party, especially given our party’s stance — verified by countless studies — that voter fraud hardly ever happens out in the wild.
Ah, but we’re not out in the wild here in Sacramento. We’re in a Petri dish — and you never know what’s going to start growing in one. The famous story of the Ring of Gyges — the original “ring of invisibility,” cautions us that when people can act in secrecy — say, if they know that the agent in a given line will wave them through with a wink — they are much more likely to do so. Far too likely.
The statistical odds against what those of us voting at around 5:00 saw in that one line, based simply on the distribution of people’s last names, are astronomical. If there were 40 tables, and 39 of them were honest, that is not enough if a huge number of people stream through that 40th line.
We need a forensic audit of the vote — and we need it before a winner of any election in which fraud may have been decisive is certified.
I was there around the same time. We were questioning why they wouldn’t let us in when the other table spots were empty. They said they needed to get that line down first which makes no sense.
Do you remember to whom it was you spoke? (Or at least that person or persons’ description?) Do you remember who else was around you who could corroborate this?
You can email me directly via ya’oo, using the account name mail2greg4-thejuice.
I was just behind you. Heard your interaction with the person who was directing line, saw what you saw, never thought much of it. After Saturday, I know the the CDP is corrupt. It’s a good thing the KE Campaign was taking pictures of badges to back up the vote, but that won’t help if your theory is correct. I do hope her legal team is able to get to the bottom of this.
Ballot-stuffing accusations might make a tiny shred of sense if there were more votes than credentialed voters, but that’s not the case. You had 2,999 credentialed delegates in attendance, and some 2.934 voters, meaning that a few hundred eligible delegates didn’t show up, and 60+ delegates who credentialed didn’t vote.
Second, if you’ve done the work to obtain a valid credential, why all use a line that doesn’t match the name? That makes zero sense because you’d just be calling attention to your own malfeasance. Not to mention, such an assertion necessarily involves participation by CDP staff to manage the “bad line.”
Lastly, trying to ballot-stuff without obtaining credentials would be dumb because of the high interest in the race and the easy possibility of producing an overvote, which would require auditing and result in easy discovery.
In short, Greg, your conspiracy theory is dumb and you should be ashamed of yourself.
The audit should compare the signatures of the people who credentialed or turned in proxy forms with those from the registrar of voters
I voted at around 5pm also and witnessed the same exact issue. I voted in the first table, and the one to the right of that one had a HUGE line. My friend Tony idly commented “why are there so many people with that last name?” It was obvious something was wrong. I wish I had investigated more into it.
We have a case of identity theft here that I thought that you all would enjoy — because it is absolutely ENDEMIC in OC’s political blogosphere.
Here’s a post that purports to be from my brother-in-law, Jeff LeTourneau, whom I love like a brother but whom I am not talking to right now for fear of exacerbating an already tense situation, given that he is one of Bauman’s close friends and absolutely strongest supporters.
That’s Jeff’s official email address for DPOC purposes, but that’s not an IP address from which he writes. It is part of a small family of IP addresses from which much of our most venomous anonymous attacks come, though.
It’s possible that Jeff wrote it from someone else’s place, but for technical reasons I’ll go into it is highly, highly unlikely. (If it was him, he can come here and own it, and at that point I’ll take its contents seriously. Suffice it to say that it’s wrong about pretty much everything and appears to be written by someone who didn’t vote in Sacramento.)
I just want to share it with others to offer a sense of what we are up against here: the sorts of people who would steal a family member’s identity to write something like this — and think that they are clever and effective operatives, not realizing just how badly sunlight can burn denizens of the underworld.
Am I one of those venemous attackers? or maybe it was Henry “Paul” Lipton or David “I Love My Boys” Zenger, or maybe Art “KenLay” Pedroza.
Have you ever stepped back and looked at how silly you appear? Even if you were to save the world, I am not sure listening to you brag about it would be a world worth living in.
Take a break dude, keep your family dirty laundry off the net and look around.
From what I can tell, this is the ninth time you’ve posted here (at least under that name), so honestly you hadn’t made what much of an impression on me. Reading the totality of your work, you strike me as an asshole who is trying to be venomous but usually not succeeding. Some of the handful of posts under the IP you used for a while, though, were legitimately venomous.
The notion that I’m airing “my family dirty laundry” by noting that someone is stealing my brother-in-law’s identity to make anonymous personal attacks is just weird and sad and (if intended sincerely) stupid.
Thanks for bringing yourself more sharply to my attention.
I used to be a democrat when I thought they were a party that represented working people’s issues first. The gay/immigrant rights /women & people of color” stuff just turned me off. The Democratic party is about social issues and protecting corporate power. They are not about working people’s health and wage issues. Immigration actually lowers wages and drives up local rents. The California Democrat party is a fraud. The Republicans are at least honest that they are for screwing over working people and are for the rich.
I agree with this writer of this article in that voter fraud was very possible and more likely than not. The current Democratic party is the party of Hollywood elites and my take on that self entitled group is F**K em !!!