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I feel terrible for the victims of the coordinated sniper attacks in Dallas — as I do for Alton Sterling, Philando Castile, this year’s other victims of police violence, and their loved ones.
I see no contradiction between those positions. Plenty of cops have tried to distance themselves from both the vicious thuggery that killed Sterling and the panicked prejudice that killed Castile.
The police of Dallas and the victims of these shootings of (mostly young male) Blacks and Latinos are often construed (usually wrongly, in my opinion) as being on “opposite sides.” It’s inevitable to compare them, so I won’t even try to avoid it. The deaths of the police are especially tragic because they were enlisted — generally, I expect, in good faith — in trying to suppress this sort of violence (and ideally the injustices that abet it.) But — and this is not said to diminish their sacrifices — they chose to put themselves in the line of fire. That’s why we call it “valor.” Alton Sterling and Philando Castile — both apparently beloved members of their communities, like Sandra Bland and Eric Garner and so many others before them — did not. They were not martyred to the cause of saving lives; they were martyred to the cause of TRYING TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE — and having had that robbed from them because of their race.
Which one is more tragic? BOTH, of course! And that should be the final judgment of any such comparisons.
I want to give my perspective as someone who has been involved in these anti-racist, anti-police-violence, anti-war, and economic justice movements off and on for four decades, and whose life changed almost five years ago when Occupy Wall Street laid bare the stakes demanded that people like me put more time and effort into activism than into career.
If I thought that activists in Black Lives Matters had anything to do with the massacre in Dallas — and I don’t, for even a moment — I would tell them that these actions have doomed countless more young persons of color to early graves, because this event will haunt even the best officers in their future interactions with innocent people whom they encounter.
I would tell them that, even if they thought that vengeance or deterrence was somehow appropriate, they had killed the wrong people — or AT BEST those who they had no way of knowing were part of the problem. That they had killed people protecting their right to protest. That they had hurt their own cause.
But, of course, there’s no need for me to do. This did not come from Black Lives Matter or, I’d think, anyone even sympathetic to their cause.
This highly organized paramilitary attack came from people who wanted to stir up hatred between such protesters and the police — as well as between the supporters of both. This is white supremacist Charles Manson trying to fuel the fire of a race war again.
What passes for violence on the part of anti-racist, anti-police-violence, anti-war, and economic justice protesters in the U.S. is nothing like this. It’s not even THE FANTASY of those groups. Rather, the so-called “violence” is usually passive resistance, violating noise ordinances, illegal (unpermitted) marches, or daring the police to arrest us with THE FANTASY that such injustice will awaken those around us and bring them to our cause. In some cases, over the objection of most of those in such movements (myself included), it will include (usually minor) property damage, or at most ineffectual rock throwing; when our non-police counterparts — Neo-Nazis, KKK — are present, some extreme (and usually fringe) people will try to prove their mettle with person-to-person fighting.
NOTHING like this. NOTHING so commando-level organized, so murderously violent, so … cowardly. No wonder protesters in Dallas have been reported to be both terrified and revulsed by these violent events.
This was the work of people who wanted to fan the flames of hatred between police and the dispossessed, who wanted to add a sour tinge at the margin of every future image of peaceful anti-racist protest by suggesting that a ticking time bomb might go off at any moment. This is an act of terrorism aimed at conciliators on all sides,
The only proper response to such terrorism, beyond the paying of respects, is to be moved emotionally — but not physically. Our hearts go out to the victims; our feet go out to the streets.
In my case, that will mean an anti-police-violence rally at Anaheim City Hall at 4:00 on Sunday. I do not, not by a long shot, have time to go. And yet my country — the good prevalent within it and the bad that would destroy that good — call me to be there. I hope that you’ll show your your rejection of both violence and counter-violence at whatever similar protest and commemoration. It will probably look a lot like what that rally in Dallas did, before vicious and violent forces upended it. But yours and mine will probably end far better. And not only justice, but also patriotism, demand that we come out this weekend and say no to violence of all kinds. NO!
Ive been waiting for something like Dallas to happen. Its been building up for a long time.
*There is something pivotal that is missing in all these discussions of Black Lives Matter.
The recent video revelations of the cop, with the guy down on the ground and he pulls
his sidearm and pumps four bullets into the defenseless so-called perb. Where is the
Mandatory Drug Testing that each Officer Involved Shooting needs to have within two
hours of the event? Police Officers suffer from PTSD, severe depression and in many
cases are proscribed mood altering drugs to deal with the symptoms. We need to make
immediate Drug Testing after an Officer Involved Shooting a National law…….right now.
They are Heroes. Don’t you watch the news?
*Do you understand that drugs like Xanax and Wellbutrin help people experiencing anxiety and depression FEEL BETTER?
The problem you’re describing isn’t a prescription drug problem; it’s a HIRING problem.
Agreed.
I’m not sure why Ships is so obsessed with Depression, but this is about lack of self control, which has nothing to do with Depression or medication.
There is no blood test for asshole.
But I’m working on devising one.
True, but there’s plenty of oral and written tests. Judging by TV news and Yahoo comments, we’re in a pandemic.
Wrong. It has EVERYTHING to do with depression and anxiety and the drugs people take to a lieve these issues.
Do the research Catnor, before spouting off.
“[C]oordinated sniper attacks”? It was one guy, a guy no doubt with clotted brains yet still able to buy a gun. Who did he coordinate with?
I think that that “coordination” characterization (which I and many others credited based on media and government reports) was eventually retracted.
Guess it was hard for them to accept that one person could do so much damage to cops.
*Blind babies…….you guys are kissing the ass of Big Pharma……and we can’t quite
grasp why. Perhaps all of you are already hooked and couldn’t get off the stuff, if you
tried. Let’s all go down to the Drug Testing Lab tomorrow and see who could qualify
to buy a firearm the day after. Do Drugs…..no firearms. We love the comment that
Xanax makes people feel better. Better than what? Why if they miss their pill….then
they feel better than what…again? We are surrounded by a bunch of Dopers…..who
refuse to admit….they are hooked. Just in case you are checking…..you are not LAW
Abiding Citizens…….
Well, Ship, nothing happens if they miss a Xanax. Nothing. Zip, zero, zilch. Nada.
Now, what happens when you miss your morning dose of lithium?
Actually if your addicted to xanax, and if you dont get your pill, you get super dope sick thats even worse than a heroine kick.
From my wife the head nurse at a semi-famous drug rehab facility…
Heroin-needs no medical supervision. You can do it at home, get flu like symptoms, throwing up etc.
Xanax-you definitely want to be in a facility to be monitored. Worse than heroin.
Alcohol-worse than Xanax.
Wine- most dangerous substance to kick out of all of them. Hard liquor drunks that switch to wine to “take it easy” are making a mistake. Wine is the worst.
“Wine is the worst.”
Wrong. Wine is the best.
“WINE IS CONSTANT PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND LOVES TO SEE US HAPPY.”
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
The are many, many, many people who would be dead today if not for anti-anxiety and anti-depression drugs.
It’s not the answer for everyone, but to say that advocating them for people who need them and would be dead otherwise amounts to kissing the ass of Big Pharma is ignorant in the extreme.
Please just shut the fuck up.
MSNBC is now reporting that Micah Xavier Johnson was being treated for “mental illness” related to his time in Afghanistan and had recently “gone off his med’s”.
There are too many coincidencall connections among these shooters and their treatment with psychotropic medicines to continue to ignore.
We need to get the GUNS (Yeah Anaheim PDC got 656 today!). But we need to look at the drugging of America.
You’re not making sense. First you say he went off his meds. Then you blame his treatment for his behavior.
You don’t even know what his medical condition was.
Or what his treatment was.
But hey, the boogyman! And a unicorn! Look!
I was reporting what I saw on the cable news. Obviously, you two experts know more. I should have guessed, given the author of this piece.
I guess it’seems better to bury our heads and ignore the 100+ victims of mass shootingstorage of late. It’s Obama’said fault right?
Ahem? I am being slammed why?
Actually we were commenting on the conclusion you shared about “shooters” and their “psychotropic medicines.”
You know what correlation means, right?
[UPDATE: THIS DID TURN OUT TO BE AN IDENTITY THIEF. IT IS LEFT AS IS TO PRESERVE THE RECORD.]
Arlyn,
Email to the account you provided bounced. As I’m concerned about the possibility that you’ve experienced identity theft here, please post with your correct email address. I’m hiding the other comments posted here under your name for now.
Zenger, as I’m not confident that that was actually Arlyn, your comment was also hidden along with it — as was one of mine.
Confirmed: this wasn’t Arlyn Buck writing here; it was an identity thief.
That’s awfully low.
Ugh. I know one person who dislikes Arlyn that much, hope it’s not her. She is a Dem officeholder, someone you know, but has a bad family history with AB. How telenovela would that be?
No, it’s not her. It’s part of a larger problem. Call me to discuss.
Ok asshole! You’ve messed with the wrong person. Hope you understand that identity theft is a serious matter and I have already reported it to the local authorities and to my friends in law enforcement. You want to screw with people’s lives do it like a real man or woman. Don’t hide behind someone else’s name. First of all, I don’t have time to read these blogs as I am dealing with some pretty heavy life and death shit with my family.
Second point is I am sickened to death just thinking about some using my name speak crap about something they know nothing about. I apologize to Zenger, Cantor, Vern, Greg, and anyone else this POS identity thief may have said using my name.
Hope you’re ready for the lawsuit I’m filing against you when the time comes.
*You Drugstore Cowboy’s are really something: You couldn’t Google your own mother in law….
Xanax Effects | Short Term, Long Term & Side Effects – DrugAbuse.com
drugabuse.com/library/the-effects-of-xanax-use/
Some of the common side effects of Xanax include: Drowsiness. Headaches. Fatigue. Dizziness. Difficulty concentrating. Dry mouth. Changes in sex drive. Inability to perform sexually.
—————-*Makes you feel better? “Side Effects of Xanax” OK, your Google…
Note, not listed here– uncontrollable homicidal rage.
Seriously, go to sleep.
As I’ve said before, if you think that the NRA, not to mention about 99% of the gun-owning public, is going to get behind screening for prescription psychiatric medications prior to gun ownership, you are completely out of your mind.
Never. Gonna. Happen.
Seriously, is this just your weird way of trying to get behind a loony idea that you know will never happen just so you can look like you’re doing something about gun violence?
*So, when the DOJ comes to your door. Tell them that….”You can’t take my guns!” And they simply say; “You are drug abusing and domestic violence person and that’s enough for us. If only you had been drug tested…you would have never gotten that firearm in the first place.”
Your call…..folks…. Take your drugs and when the cops put you down like a bad habit…..don’t complain!
*The Never Gonna Happen File: Smoking on Airplanes….oops. Red Light Cameras….oops. Free Marijuana for Cancer Paients……..oops… Letting the Market run the Big Pharma drug cartel…….ooops. Smoking in Public Buildings and even outdoors……oops. Yeah, your record for never goin happen is pretty lame Anon.
I’m just going to leave this here: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/index.html
Not saying that it’s impossible! Saying that it’s unlikely and infrequent. Which attack would you rather face?
I’d much rather bring a gun to a knife fight.
But, I live in California. I’m not allowed to defend myself.
Oops.