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This is a special Election Day Open Thread in which you can report on recent developments in the election, anything worthwhile you’ve recently read about it, anything you have to report, any rumors you’ve heard (anonymous attacks, as usual, may not survive the cut), and so on.
And remember: Hold Your Place in Line!
Various chismes and such will follow below; add your own in comments.
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(1) From Glenn Greenwald:
“This is the perfect symbolic ending to the Democratic Party primary. The nomination is consecrated by a media organization, on a day when nobody voted, based on secret discussions with anonymous establishment insiders and donors whose identity the media organization – incredibly – conceals. The decisive edifice of super-delegates is itself anti-democratic and inherently corrupt: designed to prevent actual voters from making choices that the party establishment dislikes. But for a party run by insiders and funded by corporate interests, it’s only fitting that their nomination process ends with such an ignominious, awkward and undemocratic sputter.”
(2) From our friend Andrew Weber:
*at girlfriends poling place*
Helper girl: You can vote here even tho your names not on our list!
Me: Ok, as long as the ballot doesn’t say “provisional” (won’t get counted)
Helper girl: yeah that’s no problem *points to stack of ballots*
The second word on the friggen ballot is “provisional”…
Me: Yeah, I’ll go to my actual polling place.
(3) Oh Yeah … This Happened
On the eve of the California primary and six other contests, the Associated Press and NBC News shook up the Democratic race for the White House last night by announcing Hillary Clinton had reached the number of delegates needed to capture the nomination, beating challenger Bernie Sanders. Both news organizations reached that conclusion based on unofficial polls of unelected superdelegates. If the projections stand, Clinton would become the first woman to ever be the presidential candidate of a major political party in U.S. history. Sanders criticized the move. “According to the Democratic National Committee, what they should not be doing is lumping pledged delegates, i.e. real delegates, with superdelegates, who may or may not change their mind, but who do not vote until July 25th,” Sanders said.
(4) This One is Big — YUUUUGE EXIT POLL on local legislative races!
This is worth reading. Many surprises — and a focus on OC. (Could Issa really lose his primary?)
(5) Have Orange County’s Voting Problems Been Out of the Ordinary?
I’m on record as being a big fan of our local Registrar of Voters office, and it’s leader Neal Kelley, so I’m hoping that the explanations for all of what’s reported here are benign. Kelley has blamed staffing problems, with fewer than five volunteer workers available for each polling place, but told the Register that “at this point, it seems like workers are showing up and voters are voting.”
And I’m especially hoping that some of the stories on my Facebook feed — like a purported eyewitness report that almost have of the voters in her Aliso Viejo precinct are voting on provisional ballots — are either made up or misconstrued.
The Register’s story is entitled “What Orange County voters are saying after casting their ballots” — here are some of the problems being reported:
- In one Tustin precinct, the paperwork was not prepared by 7:00 and voters were sent away. The “setup was completed shortly after polls opened, and by 8 a.m. both precincts were taking voters without trouble.” Still, that’s often a very busy hour and we don’t know that pre-working-day voters will have been able to return.
- A polling station in San Clemente was without power.
The Register story includes another quote — attributed to no one beyond the writer, that raises concerns:
In case any other issues pop up, remember that voters registered in Orange County who can’t cast a ballot at their assigned polling station for any reason are able to vote at any polling spot in the county by requesting a provisional ballot.
Y’know, we’re telling people the opposite of that — that provisional ballots are NOT an adequate substitute for being able to cast one’s normal ballot at one’s normal polling place. They may not allow votes for races outside of one’s district; there are questions as to whether and when and how they are counted. Some voting rights activist assert that provisional ballots are not counted for two weeks – or even ever — and I’m not sure that that’s largely wrong. (I’ve been waiting for the provisional ballots in New York primary to be counted for weeks now — and I don’t have any indication that it has happened.) I’d like to know a lot more about the verifiable proper treatment of provisional ballots before I would recommend them in any but the greatest emergency.
More to come!
Turnout is YUUUUGE for a June primary, at least here at St Anthony Claret church. Long line in the middle of the day. Goob sign!
Gosh, those nefarious super-delegates — supporting the candidate who has received over 56% of the actual votes.
As someone who grew up in the South and has spent the last quarter century as a Republican, I unfortunately know a bit about politics and racism. Let me make this clear:
If you think Bernie should be “winning”, you are saying that white votes should matter more than non-white votes in the Democratic primary.
The math is inescapable.
I call bullshit.
“If you think Bernie should be ‘winning’, you are saying that white votes should matter more than non-white votes in the Democratic primary.”
Hasty generalization not supported by the facts on the offense. Fifteen yard penalty, repeat first down.
what are you calling bs on?
That Hillary hasn’t won 56% of the vote?
Or that Bernies voters – or those that claim the will of those 56% voters should be ovterturned — are overwhelmingly white by Democratic party standards?
Or are you just as mathematically challenged as Greg?
Dude, did something crawl up your urethra? You’re jabbering!
I’ll attribute this to Trump rubbing off.
I attribute this to you substituting your own bias for the judgment of a few million voters you dont really understand or agree with.
Specifically, I call bs on your assignment of a racist motive. That actually has nothing to do with math, but thanks for the insult all the same.
Anyway, these aren’t our people. I say let them have themselves.
You must be very familiar with voter suppression and manipulation.
^^^ mandatory study. We’re very good.
Another flavor of “Math Problems” FWIW-
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And when more revelations start appearing in HUFFPOST, perhaps, the (presumptive) Emperor’s New Clothes have started to disappear ?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeremy-kuzmarov/damning-report-on-mexico_b_10364942.html
Stay tuned.
At this too-early-to-really-say-anything stage, a rare bright spot is Josh Newman ahead of Sukhee. If that stays that way we’re having a big party! And then Josh is going to want a LOT of Party support – the supermajority rides on it!
Meanwhile that prick Chemical Lewisnky’s been texting me “Have you seen the early exit polls from 46th CD?” which I’m sure show Correa way ahead of Dunn. Dunn’s campaign HAS been frustrating. If Bao makes it to #2 I’m immediately converting to Baoism and apologizing for doubting him. Oh, I should also finally block that prick Chemical Lewinsky like most people have.
Who the hell is the guy who’s running second to Correa? I see the (R) next to his name, so great, but I heard absolutely nothing about him.
Republican Bob Peterson, yeah, doing TWICE as good as the Irvine lady whom we all THOUGHT would be the front-running Republican, Lynn Schott. Let me look him up….
“Husband, father, friend, and neighbor, he has called the 46th District his home for over 40 years. Growing up in Anaheim and currently living in Orange, Bob Peterson, a Republican and Commander with the Orange County Sheriff’s Department, is running for U.S. Congress for California’s 46th District.” Old-looking guy. http://www.votebobpeterson.com/#bob-peterson
And that unkown Democrat Panahi is looking good so far to run against Choi or Sidhu in AD 68 … just cuz he’s the only guy with a (D).
Well, again, good for him.
Hillary gave a really good speech an hour ago, devastating to Trump and magnanimous to Bernie. Now Bernie’s talking.
Again like in Irvine, he is emphasizing that his message overwhelmingly resonates with young people. Meaning “our vision, our vision of social justice, economic justice, racial justice, and environmental justice must be the future of America. Our vision WILL be the future of Amecia!”
It looks like, thanks to new Janet puppet Phat Bui, the Supervisor race between Andrew Do and Michele Martinez will continue to November.
I’d say that I can’t believe that Scott Steiner is going to keep his seat, but jeez. How ridiculous.
Not as ridiculous as Derek Johnson getting re-up’d, but darn close.
Sharon Quirk-Silva just shot up above Young Kim – good sign for November! (To us Dems who like Sharon anyway.) I did a big interview with her last week; it may turn into a long piece or several short ones.
Sharon and Josh in West Anaheim and Fullerton? (He’s still 3% ahead of Sukhee.) That’s pretty cool!
He’s five points up. Newman is a huge boost for SQS, namely in that he’s not a giant anchor.
How do I not breach confidence…
Sharon talked the other day of how much she likes Josh. I ribbed her for endorsing Sukhee instead, and she was sheepish. She did say she is always uncomfortable with carpetbagging.
And it was a little before or after that that she talked about how both Tom Tait and John Moorlach had told her that they thought the world of her and wished they could endorse her, but they both felt they “had to stick with their Party,” and do what the bosses say. There, connect all that.
Five points up in the OC – don’t forget, he’s running in three counties. For Newman news you gotta click and refresh here:
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/state-senate/district/29/
3.4 points up right now with 55% reporting. I’m-a feeling like calling it for him.
A fine GFY to the establishment.
Looking like Young Kim has a serious problem in CA65.
WAIT, what in Andrew Weber alluding to about provisionals? When we went to vote (just making it in before 8 pm) there was a line, but machines were wide open. People were being given provisional ballots for pretty much anything. NPP but voting a party ticket? Here. Vote by mail but want to vote here? Here ya go, fill this out. Scariest of all was a woman who was trying to vote for President and tried to get the volunteer to help because she did not see the candidate she wanted on the ballot they gave her, and was told it was “too late” to give her a new ballot, although it did not look like she had completed the voting yet.
Of course since we were in the right place, voting our actual party ticket, we got to use the numerous open machines and blast out of there. Note, the stupid dial thingy took FOREVER to spell out C-O-N-D-O-L-E-E-Z-A but it was the only name that came to mind that is a registered Pub and still has my respect. Choice number one was Margaret Thatcher, but being dead and not from one’s party (or even from one’s nation) kills that buzz. And with the Queen unwilling to let bygones be bygones and take back the rebellious colonies for our own good; Make America Great Britain again.
But then I pop over and read this from Andrew Weber, and wonder if that big ol’ stack of provisionals I just watched volunteers plaster on my neighbors at the American Legion Hall might not be properly counted. What are the rules, please? I am clueless on this, never had to deal with it.
(2) From our friend Andrew Weber:
*at girlfriends poling place*
Helper girl: You can vote here even tho your names not on our list!
Me: Ok, as long as the ballot doesn’t say “provisional” (won’t get counted)
Helper girl: yeah that’s no problem *points to stack of ballots*
The second word on the friggen ballot is “provisional”…
Me: Yeah, I’ll go to my actual polling place.
Kamala is kicking Loretta’s butt all over the place. At least Greg can rub that in Dan’s face. Unfortunately I preferred Loretta too.
AD68, which we had thought would work out to be Choi v. Pauly or Sidhu (while holding out faint hope for Chuchua) looks like Democrat Panahi v. Repuglican Sidhu, of all the exotic things!
Gotta find out more about Panahi I guess. Sidhu is so unacceptable from many points of view.
*Insider trading is our bet. Deb Pauly got blindsided by some downstream candidates, so that she couldn’t beat Sidhu. It’s OK though….she got on the RNC Central Committee……yeah…sure!
Check your email, Ron. I won’t get upset about your comment here — yet.
The frame of mind. The paranoia. The sort of person who feels endangered and under attack by all minorities, also feeling certain that there are conspiracies going on between everyone who’s not her.
Dodged a bullet I guess…
Taking down my Joe Dunn ad. It was a freebie anyway.
Still hoping Bao can leapfrog past this Peterson, so there’ll be SOMEONE I can root for in my Congressional district. Hell, someone I can VOTE for.
For anyone in need of it, the number is 1-800-GO-UHAUL.
*Two new candidates that are running strong this year: “None of the Above” and “I already gave at the office!” People are putting in their name changes as we speak.
*No we didn’t say Ocho Cincho or Meta World Peace!
Voter suppression in CA? Nyah, we file suits over that ! That’s crazy talk !
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-08/how-californias-primary-was-rigged-against-independent-voters?
And I they didn’t even go into “top 2” !