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This time, it IS time, Anaheim!
The Recommended Plan — also known as the People’s Map and the Reyes 2 Map — has a new name tonight: It’s the Approved Map. The Council approved it on a 5-0 vote, effectively without further debate on its merits.
And what a long strange trip it’s been! Remember this one?
First there was the Moreno v. Anaheim lawsuit, then the election, then the hijacking of the districting process … and so much more!
And this one?
Not the actual final map, although a majority did seem willing to go with 3-1/2 districts in Anaheim Hills.
Then there was this.
And this:
And this:
The Anaheim Committee on Electoral Districts retired Judges James Jackman, Nancy Wieben Stock, Edward J. Wallin (Chair), and Stephen Sundvold (Vice Chair). Not fitting in the frame: Judge Thomas Neal Thrasher. Photo courtesy of Nancy West.)
And we can’t forget this, much as we’d like to:
Arghhhh.
And we won’t even talk about this:
But then there was this:
And tonight there was this:
… about this for now I will only say this:
… about which we will find out more in due time! (It’s going to take a lot of work — but there’s plenty of time left now to do it that the People’s Map has been approved!
Greg should stick to posting with pictures instead of words.
And no one with a brain thought the council was going to do anything else than what it did.
Dear anonymous ignoramus,
You’re absolutely wrong. After the trickery pulled last time the second reading of the district ordinance came up, no one was taking anything for granted. And you don’t get much credit for making “predictions” after the fact.
Come back under a real name if you have more opinions to express.
Brevity, nobody expected a different outcome at the meeting AFTER Council had unanimously approved the People’s Map the FIRST time in 2015. After not only seeing them hijack the sequencing, but then taking the entire MAP out of circulation, to double down on stupid, I would put NOTHING past this trifecta of self-dealing. Certainly some in the crowd last night were optimistic, I was holding my breath until the last vote.
It gets especially hairy when Murray begins poking at staff with her faux Socratic method inquiries of “concern” because they so often precede some thinly veiled excuse for not doing the right thing/AKA doing what they wanted to do all along and blaming some outside force for the action. And yes after Greg’s gentler-than-usual-and-highly-respectful-but-poking-nah-the-less of the demographer, which Murray could NOT let go without opposition, I truly wondered if we had just offered her the ammo she needed to pull the whole damn thing until we solidified the reason for changes in the numbers.
But I cannot blame Greg for trying to pin down the demographer, since he was not asked to provide reasoning for the shift to the numbers PRIOR to Public Comments, which denies us the right to speak to the issues before the Council and has become status quo for Anaheim, Greg was forced to GUESS at what the demographer would say, and forced to GUESS at whether an objection would be needed later if it came to a legal battle, should Council not pass the whole thing. If there was any uncertainty about last night, our 3 vote leadership majority needs to look to themselves for that environment of contention.
Sorry Brevity, but your view was anything but guaranteed last night.
I wouldn’t have spoken at all had they had him explain what he thought had really happened.
I don’t accept his explanation, but I (and others) have plenty of time to settle that score. The more people build up the argument that this was a legitimate change in District 3, the bigger the noise when it crashes down. No hurry.
Some large aquatic mammals seemed impressed by Murray’s colloquy with him. That’s probably because it came after I spoke, with no opportunity for rebuttal (which I had yearned for, but the Mayor was right not to call me up to the podium — for multiple reasons including that it was a poor time for a bloodbath.) Completely one-sided and unfair — just like how some people prefer their government proceedings to be.
If they hadn’t approved the ordinance last night, what I said could have turned out to be consequential. And the Council majority has earned no right to be trusted on anything anymore; indeed, they tend to flee from doing the right thing. They get treated accordingly.
How ironic to quote Tyson and then choose not to believe the demographer. You were wrong. He explained why. Own up to your mistakes.
You’re an idiot, which is why you hide your identity so that you can be an idiot without consequences. You presume that he is on the side of science and I am not. That’s an unwarranted — and also in this case WRONG — assumption. What Science actually demands, given a well-established record, is an attempt to use that record to reanalyze and examine the discrepant results. I tried to do that quickly before the meeting; now I have the luxury to do it slowly, and as time permits — so long as I finish at least a couple of months before the November election.
I was raring to go to rebut his remarks, but of course that was procedurally impossible (unless they decided to make an exception, which Kris Murray clearly would object to after having gotten the chance to put on her show.
One thing about which I’m VERY confident is the main thrust of my argument, which is that the change in the census figures were NOT what caused District 3 to drop below 50%. I know this for reasons that are extrinsic to the data set itself, but the data set will cough up the rest of the truth in time.
If anyone who actually has a name and a reputation to lose for being wrong wants to argue with me on this, they’re welcome to pipe up and do so here. But I’m not going to argue with shady political operatives who can lie and attack without consequences. Find another identity, if you must; this one is banned..
Now we can move ahead and enjoy the BEST benefit of district elections: the opportunity for head-to-head contests in which incumbents like Kringle and Brandman will have to answer to challengers directly. Campaigns will necessarily become more issues-based and less “gee I hope I can be one of the top three so no point in offending anybody.”
The kleptocracy will still pour hundreds of grand into to prop up their puppets, but they will start having to answer questions that they would rather ignore.
The best benefit is watching Cunningham foam at the mouth every time he uses the word leftist or Moreno.
Oh, you probably meant actual benefit to the electorate. In thought we were talking about entertainment.
Anaheim David Zenger, here.
Foaming at the mouth is not “intellectually honest.” And it is not “reasoned debate.” Unless it is directed at Mayor Tait. Then it’s okay to foam away.
What else was there?
Oh, “straw man argument.”
That is all.
Oh man, makes me weepy.
Watch out for The Stalker! He’s outed you!
Needs all the help he can get!
Bravo to all those who made this happen. Cheers.