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I know that a lot of us, for reasons ranging from legitimate and urgent to far-fetched and wacky, have had problems with Attorney General Eric Holder — but at long last he just went up quite a few steps in my book. He is unilaterally getting rid of the most unjust aspects of civil forfeiture.
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without proving that a crime occurred.
Holder’s action represents the most sweeping check on police power to confiscate personal property since the seizures began three decades ago as part of the war on drugs.
Since 2008, thousands of local and state police agencies have made more than 55,000 seizures of cash and property worth $3 billion under a civil asset forfeiture program at the Justice Department called Equitable Sharing.
The program has enabled local and state police to make seizures and then have them “adopted” by federal agencies, which share in the proceeds. The program allowed police departments and drug task forces to keep up to 80 percent of the proceeds of the adopted seizures, with the rest going to federal agencies.
Again: these are confiscations in the absence of convictions. Read Vern’s piece on an absurd (and ultimately reversed) seizure in Anaheim, by someone who could afford a good attorney. Most victims of the practice could not. This reform was well-overdue. Yes, it will chop into police department budgets. Maybe they can take a tip from NYC at the beginning of the year and not go after people for the ticky-tacky stuff. Not spending on the municipal paramilitary programs would also be a nice and cost-saving gesture.
This, as I burrow out from a very busy (and more recently very ill) few weeks, is your first reasonably-on-time official-from-the-start, Weekend Open Thread. Talk about this story, or anything else you’d like, within broad bounds of decency and discretion.
*Love it…..
Yeah, it will bite into their budgets alright. Too bad it won’t cut back on the military toys.
Why drag Debussy into this matter?
Because Debussy makes everything better! And also it’s an OPEN thread.
And the Mayor of OC’s largest city called me late last night to tell me he and his wife enjoyed it.
It’s not Vern’s fault that Holder eviscerated a Debussy prelude; we just report on it.
I was under the impression that it was clearly spell out in the 4th amendment.
So he is giving us back what him and his boss took from us by use of the executive orders (presidential memorandums)…. Huh?
What a clown!
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.” Fourth Amendment, U.S. Constitution
One might well think so, but under reigning Supreme Court precedent, you would be misinformed. The 4th Amendment has taken a serious beating over the past few decades.
Also: this practice long preceded the Obama Administration, so it’s not something that “him and his boss took from us.” I vaguely recall that it may go back to Nixon, but I’m not sure.
“this practice long preceded the Obama Administration”……. Hmmmmmm
Sure!
That is why the Obama administration is using every agency IRS, FBI, EPA, etc, etc. etc. to harass conservative applicants for the nonprofit status…… Huh?
That is why he was indicted for perjury (lying to congers)…. Huh
That is why he personally sign an unlawful order to hares investigative reporters like James Rosen (journalist)…… Huh?
He is clown!
*Actually, one of our CA Supreme Court Justices pointed out that we had virtually lost all of our 4th Amendment protections as far back as 1986. The court decision that allowed police the ability to search your car or residence without a warrant…..based upon “probable cause”. Sorry, sir …you probably missed the memo!
“one of our CA Supreme Court Justices”……. Hmmmmmmm
One opinion does not make a lawful ruling…. although I would go even further, to 1913, when the IRS was established and given unprecedented powers to violate everything.
But those days we were lawfully lunching people like Holder on the street.
*Canards aside…..we did have a few nasty Trusts back in 1913 that needed pee pee slapping. The Railroad, Oil and of course Boss Tweed all needed a little corrective action, but as with everything government, the abuses soon began and here we are today. It is much akin to putting the Highway Trust Fund and Social Security payments into the General Fund and then flushing the giant toilet at the Federal Reserve. Hey, we are only $18 Trillion down, but it didn’t happen over night….did it?
“Hey, we are only $18 Trillion down, but it didn’t happen over night….did it?”………. Hmmmmmmm
No it did not!
However, it took six (6) years from 7 Trillion to 18 = 11 Trillion per 6 years. So rounding it up for easier calculation 2 Trillion per year which = about $5.5 Billion over a night.
That is how much progressivism cost us….. halleluia
” on Friday barred local and state police from using FEDERAL law to seize……” so doesn’t that still leave STATE and LOCAL laws (and perhaps some court cases on the interrelationship among the 3)? Much as I despise civil forfeiture, I’ll HOLD off on chilling the champagne just yet.
Please see link how we can help to stop the flogging of blogger Raif Badawi :
http://livewire.amnesty.org/2015/01/15/five-ways-you-can-help-raif-badawi/
“(…)help to stop the flogging of blogger(…)”…………. Hmmmmm
I like the idea to flog bloggers…… especially these bloggers who believe that the blog belongs to them and in constitutional antithesis.
It’s all politics. There are ways around his cuts at different levels of government. It’s all a big smoke and mirrors show. Watch and see.
“However, it took six (6) years from 7 Trillion to 18 = 11 Trillion per 6 years” Stan our man, please get the right grip on the broom….otherwise you could get blisters. We are still bailing out the Global Economy, by the Fed kicking in another $15 Billion a month, down from $35 Billion a month…which goes directly into the coffers of the Global Investment Bankers, as you well know. Heck, when was the last time you heard about Greece? This whole Do Dah Parade takes both parties and even the Tea Party to buy off on……in order to keep going. Just be pleased as punch that gas prices are down and holding transportation, construction, food and medical costs at bay….for the time being. Meanwhile, your buddies in the Boehner Brigade are trying to take cash out of Social Security payments…..for SSN Disability….guess that $15 Billion a month from the Fed doesn’t approach taking money away from the little people….eh?
“Stan our man, please get the right grip on the broom….otherwise you could get blisters”…………. Hmmmmmmm
I am CEO type of several corporations since 1972 having as much as 25 employes at one time, therefore, I never get blisters because I never broom. The IQ is my working tool.
However, you must separate cause from facts or you may slip in lalaland, neverland and comma Winships.
The fact: From a conception of the USA til 2008 (220 years), under all cause of wars, crisis and political winds, the USA accumulated about $10 trillion debt.
In contrast, since 2008 until today (6 years), under ending all wars, crises and progressive regime, ruled by one African American man and his adviser Al Sharpton the USA accumulated about $8 trillion debt and Al Sharpton about $5 million Tax debt.
So stay in the coma it is more comfortable than lalaland.
*Ralph Kramden did you say? No, you said Al the kiddies pal, Sharpton….right?
We are talking some pretty serious credit lines here. Al was having business difficulties only about six years ago. Wow, we are impressed…..but then he did know James Brown personally. Was Michael Jackson in on that too? We love to find out the true inside story on stuff. So your pals at the Bliderbergers and Rothchilds had nothing to do with this? Really? What about Krupp Steel? Is that still in business? How about Bayer Aspirin? What about your other pals at Shell and BP Oil? Call Dave Haliburton and have him dust off one of his old Tuna Club Jackets …..so you can look good on his yacht too. We knew that whole Global Economy crap…..was just that. We knew Mitt had all of the money stuffed in his sock and placed in a Bahamian or Seychelles Bank. Of course, he put a little in his private Cayman Island account that the feds could more easily follow. The real money is in Belize and Turks and Caicos…..but heck, we know you know all this stuff. Just good to know someone else ….that really knows the truth.
How did you got out of coma, Winships?
Just found this from Yahoo-
http://www.ibtimes.com/chinese-spies-stole-f-35-fighter-design-edward-snowden-reveals-1787092
So now we will probably double down on domestic data surveillance and airport groping?
Yet ANOTHER reason I REFUSE to have ANYTHING to do with BookFace-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6A1Lt0kvMA