Today we have an environmentalist theme with a little science and religion and art tossed in. I saw one video in an online magazine today — an animated version of a Louis CK riff on environmentalism and religion. Then I saw one through facebook, also with an environmentalist theme. I think that viewed together, the whole is even a little more than the sum of both quite enjoyable parts.
This is your Weekend Open Thread. Talk about this or anything else you’d like, within broad bounds of decency and decorum.
And this is a very special brea drip — read about it here but don’t watch it on Slate unless you want to suffer through Walmart’s obnoxious recent ad campaign — after which you’ll get the weekly OC Register Dearthwatch.
And here’s the Dearthwatch! Things mostly seem to be leveling off. It was tempting to leave ours up so as in be able to include what is, for us, quite a busy day.
Louis CK is AWESOME! He won’t fill George Carlin’s shoes but he comes close.
Note: OJB enjoyed its 4,000,000th view last Wednesday. We estimate that it came shortly before 2:00 p.m. and was possibly someone reading this comment: http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2013/07/gustavo-arellano-cantinflas-and-the-babosos-blogueros/comment-page-1/#comment-444051
inge, we agree on something, love the CK
Did you watch President Obama today weigh in on Trayvon Martin?
http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/president-obama-weighs-in-on-trayvon-martin-outcome-racism-stand-your-ground-video/
why can’t there be a express bus (OCTA) from Santa Ana, Laguna Hills to Long Beach University – VA hospital?
Do you need a ride to the VA hospital for drs. appt. Cook? I will take you if its not on a Mon or Wed.
no, but thanks. What I can really use is a liver.
But it would be nice to have a fast bus as a back up. I spend Fridays at the VA.
Ran into Vern outside of CSLB and gave him a ride into SA and he said it saved him an hour of time. That is what got me to thinking about the lack of an express route.
A landmark federal study on hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, shows no evidence that chemicals from the natural gas drilling process moved up to contaminate drinking water aquifers at a western Pennsylvania drilling site, the Department of Energy told The Associated Press.
After a year of monitoring, the researchers found that the chemical-laced fluids used to free gas trapped deep below the surface stayed thousands of feet below the shallower areas that supply drinking water, geologist Richard Hammack said.
A Federal study? You mean one conducted by that government you trust so much.
Ahhh Skally, I’ll give you one thing…you wear your inconsistencies on your sleeve!
Skally left this out of Washington Post article quote.
” He cautioned that the single study doesn’t prove that fracking can’t pollute, since geology and industry practices vary widely in Pennsylvania and across the nation.”
One study on one well does not make a consensus.
Credit to Demagogue for addressing the issue rather than attempt to demean the commenter as did anon.
Where is your federal study Demagogue?
This isn’t from the government, but rather from a nonprofit.
http://www.pacinst.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/full_report35.pdf
You have absolutely zero room to talk about demeaning a commenter.
Are you LITERALLY incapable of seeing your glaring hypocrisy? Or do you just tell yourself “fuck it” and plow ahead?
Fuck it all to hell.
So people’s tap water is suddenly igniting by virtue of a miracle?
uhhh …. no, by a hoax!
What possible evidence could convince you otherwise?
Peer reviewed scientific evidence.
Is your precious Federal study peer reviewed ?
Of course it isn’t !
They tested one well. Big deal.
What’s good for the fracker …..is good for the creepy ass cracker.
creepy ass fracker.
yer creepy ass frack is showing.
Urbina’s piece also echoes the unsubstantiated notion (popularized by this year’s Oscar-nominated documentary “Gasland”) that fracking somehow leaks natural gas into drinking water aquifers. After investigating the particular incident featured in the film in which a Colorado resident ignites his tap water with a small flame, scientists at the Colorado Oil & Gas Conservation Commission concluded: “There are no indications of any oil- and gas-related impacts to your water well … Methane gas is common in water wells in Colorado. It occurs naturally … as a gas in coal or black shale seams [and] as a byproduct of the decay of organic matter.”
Forbes –
Written by MICHAEL J. ECONOMIDES, a Professor at the Cullen College of Engineering, University of Houston, and the Managing Partner of a petroleum engineering and petroleum strategy consulting firm.
Gee, I wonder if he’s unbiased?
I don’t think that this is a peer reviewed study, cracker ass.
Skally…please watch Louis CK video again…it points out humans stupidity quite well. I am not calling you personally stupid, mind you…it is a ‘collective’ stupidity.
Demagogue – “What’s good for the fracker …..is good for the creepy ass cracker.”
I like that one!
So where’s your peer reviewed study on fracking ?
That’s what you’re calling for. One well that doesn’t leak out of thousands is hardly proof, or even a trend.
Chew on that ass cracker.
creepy-ass cracker to you ….
For Demagogue –
Is hydraulic fracturing — used for more than 60 years to produce oil and natural gas — safe?
The “safe fracking” question has been asked and answered many times over by government regulators, scientists and other technical experts, and they have concluded that hydraulic fracturing is a fundamentally safe technology. Interior secretaries and EPA heads have repeatedly said that fracking can be done, and is being done, so that it doesn’t present environmental or public health problems.
LA Times –
From Science Magazine:
“Critics charged last summer that a University of Texas (UT), Austin, report—which examined the human health and environmental implications of fracking—was tilted in favor of the gas industry. And they revealed that its principal manager—former U.S. Geological Survey chief Charles Groat—had an undisclosed financial stake in a gas exploration company. Now, a group commissioned by the university has released a scathing review of the fracking report.”
When you have oil and gas guys doing the reports…..
Is fracking a safe technology? LA Times
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/21/opinion/la-oe-zierman-california-fracking-moratorium-20130621
Written by Rock Zierman, CEO at California Independent Petroleum Association.
Big shill.
Come on creepy ass fracker, where’s the peer reviewed study you demand?
More recently, Stanford University geophysicist Mark Zoback, who’s also served as an advisor to the Obama administration, confirmed that fluids used in hydraulic fracturing “have not contaminated any water supply,” and with more than a mile of rock separating deep shale formations and shallow drinking water aquifers, “it is very unlikely they could.” In California, it is worth noting, more than 80% of hydraulic fracturing occurs in parts of Kern County where there is no potable groundwater
LA Times –
Mark Zoback, a geophysics professor at Stanford and senior advisor to Baker Hughes, Inc., a Houston-based oilfield services company engaged in hydraulic fracturing. Zoback is chair of GeoMechanics International, a consulting firm that advises on various oil and gas drilling problems and that was acquired by Baker Hughes in 2008.
Shill.
Protests, Pickets, and Vigils Planned for First Anniversary of Anaheim’s Unrest
By Gabriel San Roman
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2013/07/anaheim_unrest_2013.php
Thanks Gabriel for this informative article, and thanks Cynthia for calling our attention to the proper context of these activities.
sounds like a good time and place to get Anaheim voters to sign off on a peoples initiative for a competing district ordinance for June 2014.
hmmm… good idea actually… a little late to get that set up though!
What the city did made that unlikely to succeed — quite intentionally, in my opinion. They intentionally constructed their charter amendment to be one that would be incompatible with a citizen initiative, meaning that only the one that got more votes would be enacted. The judge should either re-form it so that it’s not incompatible with a voter-residency charter amendment or just toss it off the ballot entirely.
This is discussed in my series, cook, if you’re interested.
The only difference between the city councils charter amendment and your recommendation is whether the districts are elected at large or by district only.
Even after reading so many words you wrote your argument boils down to one thing. “Your way is better than their way”, in my opinion that is a weak an argument.
For those that think voting “district only” is better the “at large” then they should put that single issue on the ballot.
Well, yeah — and the only difference between water and hydrogen peroxide in one additional oxygen atom. And my argument on which one of them to drink could, I suppose, be boiled down to “it’s better to drink water than hydrogen peroxide.”
You know that there are legal requirements at issue here, right?
You are correctly, though, that a change to voter-residency districts should be on the ballot. I think that it should be on the ballot separately from a change to candidate-residency districts — and in such a way that the two potential changes do not conflict.
Did I mention to you, Ricardo, that I got Gabriel and Jose discussing education policy, in a friendly way, for like half an hour, after the police roundtable last night? Thought you would like that, as a kumbayah kinda guy.
Hey, what did you mean calling us bloggers babosos the other day? Were you actually insulting me and Greg?
Babosos? What babosos? Remember the great Bob Marley :” who the cap fit, let them wear it…” I re-appropriated this word (the term re-appropriate is defined in another thread…) baboso from Gabe. He used it in the thread that made the OJB explode with irate parents…I hope I am not opening a can of worms again….anyway, I am glad that GSR and Dr M spent time talking about boring stuff, after all the desmadre created around Dr Baeza. BTW we may have our own OC “Stand and Deliver” Jaime Escalante in Dr Baeza. Who would be our “vendido” Edgar J Olmos? It has to be a celebrity…chingado, I’d better stop…
You see Vern, you are not only a “stalker” but also an “agent provocateur”, according to the NSA. They have all your phone calls you are making from the OCTD buses. I hope you carry plastic bags with you, as Gustavo is keeping track of your pukes…
The biggest babosadas you have done was to remove the tag about Cunningham in the Mahoney article. That is why I am the biggest defender of Gustavo, he has the huevos to rub it in his face, even in Dan Chmielewski’s blog, that Cunningham outed sex-abuse victims by releasing their names online. On top of this, you shook hands with him…ouch! You see I am not a kumbayah kinda guy all the time…
This has got to be Ricardo after a little tequila – Orale cabron!
Tequila and Pisco.
“Pisco is a colorless or yellowish-to-amber colored grape brandy produced in winemaking regions of Peru and Chile.” Peruvians and Chileans fought a war in 1879, Peru lost territory to Chile, and then they have been fighting about who produces the best Pisco. The dispute about the territories was taken to The Hague international tribune, a verdict is expected soon, and may not be accepted by one of these countries. I hope that this does not trigger another war.
http://www.santiagotimes.cl/world/chile-abroad/26474-chilean-and-peruvian-generals-meet-amid-rumors-of-military-build-up
If memory serves, Vern has gone after Jerbal for that repeatedly since the time I’ve been here — just not continually.
The vendidio is Jose Moreno. He sold out to his greed and thirst for power!
The first experimental use of hydraulic fracturing was in 1947, and the first commercially successful applications were in 1949. As of 2010, it was estimated that 60% of all new oil and gas wells worldwide were being hydraulically fractured. As of 2012, 2.5 million hydraulic fracturing jobs have been performed on oil and gas wells worldwide, more than one million of them in the United States.
Wiki –
One million frack jobs in the US and not one of them can you point to as having had devastating consequences to people or the environment.
Is that the standard? It has to be “devastating” consequences to be a negative thing?
Turn the channel off Fox News and open your mind.
Google “fracking ruined my property” and hundreds of devastating stories come up. The drilling companies know this technique ruins water wells of the locals, and they start bringing in the drinking water trucks while their lawyers try to get them to sign nondisclosures.
A lot of them have taken the money to keep their mouths shut, but more and more are fighting back.
http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/pdf/201108/20110804ewg_cracks_in_the_facade.pdf
With the new petroleum fields discovered up in the Central Valley, for the first time in 60 years, California may be moving to pass a law to regulate the controversial practice of hydraulic fracturing.
This has DEVASTATING results if done wrong, and we all know that the oil companies make big mistakes.
Even the frack heads know this, ass cracker.
If Obama had a city, it would look like Detroit.
He has a country.
yeah …. that’s the scary part …..
Yet the country doesn’t look like Detroit, does it?
Are you scared of the black man?
“I watch Fox, and I’m scared of everything.”
You big sissy.
Sissy Ass Cracker
Sissy Ass Fracker Cracker
Fox News Headline: BREAKING NEWS !
Skallywag, a.k.a. creepy-ass cracker….some people say, is really a Sissy Ass Fracker Cracker !
What do you think, Douchey ?
I think your skirt is too long, Gretchen.
You guys are acting like 8 year olds. Is it possible to have a ‘grown up’ discussion? I mean seriously…
Lighten up. It’s the weekend open thread, cracker.
When our role model is Gustavo? I think we’re doing him proud here.
so, the Weekend open thread is about acting juvenile? No wonder we lose readers…
If you’re losing readers, I don’t suppose that could have anything to do with your overgeneralized, not-very-deep rants on religion? Nahhhhhh.
Anon, please point out where I rant about religion? If you mean I want religion out of politics and my bedroom and you consider that a rant…if you want to hear a rant, try tuning into Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh… oh, yes they see themselves as ‘good’ Christians and have very deep thoughts daily.
Inge – Tune into VOC for real serious juvenile caca talk.
The Obama appointee implicated in the IRS targeting scandal met with President Obama in the White House two days before offering his colleagues a new set of advice on how to scrutinize tea party and conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status.
IRS chief counsel William Wilkins, who was named in House Oversight testimony by retiring IRS agent Carter Hull as one of his supervisors in the improper targeting of conservative groups, met with Obama in the Roosevelt Room of the White House on April 23, 2012. Wilkins’ boss, then-IRS commissioner Douglas Shulman, visited the Eisenhower Executive Office Building on April 24, 2012, according to White House visitor logs.
On April 25, 2012, Wilkins’ office sent the exempt organizations determinations unit “additional comments on the draft guidance” for approving or denying tea party tax-exempt applications, according to the IRS inspector general’s report.
Daily Caller –
There’s no there there.
California newspaper defies industry wisdom to stay alive – and prospers.
Orange County Register shocked the crisis-stricken industry with an ambitious experiment. One year later, the paper is celebrating.
http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013/jul/23/california-newspaper-industry-wisdom
Anthony Wiener. Now THERE’S one creepy-ass cracker.
Skally, you’ve just been out-creepy-assed (but not out-crackered).
Nor outfracked.
Brea Olinda High School teacher Michelle Johnson is being arraigned today: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/07/24/brea-high-school-math-teacher-to-be-arraigned-on-child-sex-assault-charges/. Six counts oral, three counts coital, both on-campus and off. Possible 76 months in prison.
Previous OJB coverage includes this http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2013/06/disturbing-reactions-to-michelle-johnsons-arrest-for-sex-with-a-student/ and that http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2013/06/michelle-johnson-case-teaches-lessons-about-torches-pitchforks-rumors-and-racist-jerks/. Yes, they have been getting a lot of hits today.
Seriously, how weird is this?
If the Lite Gov really needs something to do this badly, he can help me transcribe the bilious ramblings of Kris Murray. Maybe he’ll learn something important in the process.