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Gustavo Arellano before becoming OC Weekly's Editor (left), his apparent official photo (center), and at right an artist's conception of how Gustavo may look when he finishes his tenure as the Weekly's Editor. Best of luck, AskaMex!
The news has come forth from the horse’s mouth that Ted B. Kissell’s almost five-year tenure as Editor of Village Voice Media’s OC Weekly will end at 5:01 Friday, at which point police may or may not declare his editorship illegal and remove his tents from the building. Kissell will be replaced by Gustavo Arellano, who was last seen (by this author, anyway) in a video from PBS explaining why, even though he is a fiscal conservative and his parents are both fiscal and social conservatives, he would not be voting Republican in the 2012 elections, no way, no how, just because the Republican Party apparently thinks that he and “his kind” (I’m adopting Republican usage there) are what is wrong with this country and must be stopped, stopped, stopped! (Seriously, it’s a good video. Check it out.)
Arellano, depicted above in his celebrated role as the Gestapo officer with most of the instructions for building an Ark of the Tabernacle burned onto his palm — and THE Orange Juice Blog admits that the discrepancy in ages makes this a bit hard to believe, but take a look, the evidence appears to be absolutely compelling — is inter alia the redoubtable author of the Ask A Mexican! column, for which he has achieved both local and possibly interplanetary acclaim. (And we gabachos like it too!)
Our website has its own “Ask a Mexican” commentary — mostly from commenters who want to Ask Mexicans why they don’t leave the country and those of us who are aghast at them — but when you climb into the mosh pit of OC politics you don’t have a chance to ask each other for proper ID, let alone a passport. So we will continue to enjoy our wealthy cousin publication — or so we presume, as after all a movie star like Arellano can’t come cheap — from our own digs and look forward to providing the best political and cultural commentary of any OC blog not owned by Village Voice Media. Yet. Hopefully ever. We look forward to reading the competition and to providing our own.
Yours for better journalism, real and imagined,
Gustavo Diamond, Imaginary Managing Editor, THE Orange Juice Blog
P.S. Your comments on the OC Weekly, its coverage, and the accession of Arellano are welcome below.
P.P.S. ONE MORE DAY to enter the free t-shirt competition! ONE. MORE. DAY.
I remember when the Sex Pistols came over to New York in 77 or so to play a concert with their idols the Ramones. After the show, the Ramones all said the Pistols were “pathetic,” “they couldn’t play their instruments.” When Sid Vicious heard that he responded, “Oh well, we still think they’re great.”
The Weekly (which once crowned us the Best Blog in OC) and Gustavo (who used to come on here with friendly comments, for months after Art left and I was in charge) NOW likes to pretend we don’t exist, EVER SINCE I wrote a piece ripping Scott Moxley for his worshipful, credulous Righeimer article.
(My piece is here if you haven’t re-read it recently:
http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2011/03/the-once-great-r-scott-moxley-fluffs-jim-righeimer/ )
Oh well. We still think they’re pretty great! (Most of the time.)
Exhibit F of the long Weekly OJ-diss:
1. I break the news that Deborah Pauly is running for supe, in the morning of Oct 17 (thanks to the quality of my pajaritos) :
http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2011/10/deborah-pauly-probably-running-against-todd-spitzer-and-mark-bucher-for-3rd-supe-seat/
2. The NEXT DAY, the dull Red County Blog posts Deborah’s press release:
http://www.redcounty.com/content/surprise-deborah-pauly-jumps-3rd-district-board-supes-race
3. Later that day, Weekly writer Matt Coker introduces his little take on the story with the words, “The Red County scoops the free world by passing along the following from the Villa Park city councilwoman…”
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/10/deborah_pauly_supervisor_orang.php
Just one example of the abuse we have to endure because of me taking on the sainted Moxley…
We know how to play some of our instruments. Frankly, I think that in the local political blogging context that still puts us ahead of the curve.
Why couldn’t they give Marisa Gerber the job, she’s awesome.
I think Moxley would’ve been a far better choice. I realize he’s not well liked on here but I don’t think it can realistically be said that Arellano is better qualified – or has contributed more – than Moxley.
We love Moxley on here. I just really hated one article of his … and maybe a couple others.
He shouldn’t be distracted from the investigative journalism he does, by the drudgery of editorism.
Agreed. I love Moxley’s column — except when he’s wrong, and then I become sad. Usually he’s not wrong, though.
And yes, having your best writer as an editor is not necessarily smart.
I didnt know there was a beef between the weekly and the oj blog. I like Moxleys stuff. And most of gustavos. Gustavo is a cool guy. Anyway, Im happy for Gus in a way but I hope it doesnt run him into the ground. Thats not an easy job. I wish him and Becca would bury the hatchet so she can bring back commie girl. Is the war between OJ Blog and Lib OC still on? Does gus still hate Dan?
I don’t think that there’s a beef on this end. We have a tendency to call it as we see it, which can create problems on occasion, but we’re pretty thick-skinned.
So long as people get to continue asking a Mexican and the Weekly doesn’t endorse Ron Paul for President (not sure of the odds there) we should be fine.
I sort of like Ron Paul…
oh wait, now i sound like moxley in ’06 with his McClintock for Governor shtick.
sorry can’t stop
Vern,
You never updated me on the Lib OC/OJB feud. And is there a beef between you and Art now? Dan thinks he saw me commenting on his blog the other day but it was someone else using a similar screen name. Ive not paid much attention to these things for a while now.
Eww. E-mail him about that. Not here in my beautiful story’s comment section!
We hate everybody, Paul.
Win lose or draw, I hope Ron Paul never runs again after this cycle.
I mean, I first recall hearing him talk of running in 1988 for eff’s sake. Enough already
Third party Paul candidacy. This is the year, I predict.
Oh, please let Diamond be right. I think I MIGHT even vote for the guy then.
Even though I wouldn’t want him as President. But I DO want him to be the soul of the Republican Party.
Vern: Stop being a drama queen! There is no beef between us and ustedes on our end; report relevant shit, and we’ll link ya (case in point: FFFF).
Greg: Everyone knows my celebrity doppelganger is Marc Anthony.
Marc Anthony?? WOW! ME TOO!!!
I can’t find a face-melting pic of him online, though, so for the “after” shot you’re on your own. (And, seriously, good luck!)
Yeah right, YOU are an A hole, or in Irish a Wanker! YOU are a racist and the reason the Orange Register is a failure.
Ha ha ha! Gustavo is the reason the Orange Register is a failure. (sings) “Our lowlifes’ lower than your lowlifes…”
I am confused, which idiot paper does he contribute to? The Lousy Angeles Times or the OC ridiculous? Which one?
Same type of people, same ridiculous weepy so called immigrant sad stories, right?
Everything sucks, doesn’t it, dear? You don’t deserve the pain of being in California.
No, Vern, it does not suck for me but It does for many who don’t have the means to get out of areas were they have no choice but to send their kids to gang infested holes, or can’t get help at social services, cause they are American Citizens, or they can’t get the grant they need to go to college because this state invests in thousands of idiots instead of productive students. It sucks for a lot of people, thats why so many are leaving and no one is coming in, except of course the welfare crowd.
But thats not going to last too much longer, the people that are leaving are the taxpayers.
So, who’s on first – and, who cares?
LOL – you beat me to the punch. Dumb ass Quinn; she doesn’t even know she’s a joke. That’s especially sad!
WTH do my comments not land where they’re supposed to? Editor, you need to fix this. This format sucks, to be frank. Speaking of Frank, everyone should check out Colbert tonight with excerpts from Stephen’s satirical interview with Mr. Frank back in the day. Very fun!
Yeah, LAURA, I sure it does not take much to make you laugh, I’m sure as a pot head, you laugh ALL the time.
Make up your mind occupoo, I am either sad or a laugh?
As for the Mexican wonder, yep, he is one of the reasons the register sucks. He and his Occupoo crowd have turn the register into a JOKE!
By the way, is fullerton going to ever get rid of the stupid Chicano Studies program that teaches idiots like Arellano, that the world owes them something?
Part of me would like to just let you wallow in your ignorance…but I’m feeling charitable this holiday season. So let me help you out;
Gustavo doesn’t work for the Orange County Register. He works for OC Weekly, a publication unaffiliated with The Register.
You WOULD say that, your just a liberal Union TEACHER!!!!!!
Like I said, “He is one of the reasons the register is going under”. An occupoo crowd of idiot liberals vomiting out c&&& that no one with any sense would read. The OC weekly really is a joke, lets not go there.
Did you hear the fantastic news liberals? California now ranks 50th in the nation in the quality of the public education. Write about that Mexican wonder, cause most of the idiot students that are failing, helped no doubt by numerous overpaid liberal idiot gringos and of course not helped at home by their over served and non participating parents. And billions with a B sunk into a failing system of illegal immigrants, their children and American parents cramming into one or two schools in their area that have a low minority of Mexican wonders! I have a question Mr. Gustavo, how long will the gringos continue to pay for a entitled group from south of the border? This State is now the joke and of course it is run by real jokes.
“California now ranks 50th in the nation in the quality of the public education.”
According to who? Or what? Where’s your source on that?
Here’s a recent study that puts California at #30.
Dumb ass Quinn (thanks Laura) has no idea what she is babbling about, again. Her mental litter is a waste of everyones attention.
http://www.edweek.org/media/ew/qc/2011/QualityCounts2011_PressRelease.pdf
“By Douglas A. McIntyre, Michael B. Sauter, Charles B. Stockdale, Ashley C. Allen, 24-7 Wall St.
How well run are America’s 50 states? The answer depends a lot on where you live.
For the second year, 24/7 Wall St. has reviewed data on financial health, standard of living and government services by state to determine how well each is managed. Based on this data, 24/7 Wall St. ranked the 50 from best to worst. The best-run is Wyoming. The worst-run is California.
Comparing the 50 states can be a challenge because they are so different. Some states have abundant natural resources while others rely on service or innovation. State populations also can be more rural or more urban. Some had booming industries that are waning or that have disappeared altogether. Border states with large immigrant communities have populations that are growing rapidly. Many states in the Northeast are not growing at all. All of these factors affect the finances and the living conditions in in each.”
MQ says:
Oh, wait your right, it did not pertain to education, but the whole state being the WORST in the nation. California ranks 48th in the nation regarding education. MY BAD!
Now why are we the worst run state in the nation? What dumb a## wants to go first?
“Now why are we the worst run state in the nation? What dumb a## wants to go first?”
I’ll take a crack at that…look at the ridiculous legislation by ballot initiative process that Californians are so enamored with, and much of the blame falls squarely on every single Californian who has ever voted.
Knowing who you are, I am assuming you mean that Brown is asking the voters to increase taxes and 5 times now they have said no. So what you want is for your whores and unions to run the show instead of the voters?
Next dumb a@@!
And who voted in Mr. Brown? Who voted in the State Legislature? For people to sit around and ONLY point the finger at them, like you do, is absurd. Get some freakin’ perspective.
As long as people continue to support the ballot initiative process, there is far less incentive for the State’s elected officials to do their job…the one we apparently elect them to do.
California did screw up when they voted in Brown, but they are not that stupid. Only an idiot would want to be taxed more in this state, or someone who benefits from raping the tax payer. Ie…Public Union Workers or leeches!
By the way, what are you Anon, a public worker or a leech?
And how about Mr. Schwarzenegger? Did Californians screw up when they voted him in?
He was all talk, but did not walk the walk. And no, they did not screw up because they thought he would be actually good for the state but of course he ended up being just a big RINO. The voters have got to stop voting people on party lines only. They have got to look at the guys/woman’s voting history etc…. I did not vote for Brown because he has no ba**S the Unions are very powerful in this state and there is a lot of corruption. We need a conservative/Libertarian in charge and we need to get rid of the RINOS and the far left libs, who bye far, are beholden to the unions. Until that happens, this state is going to keep going down the tubes.
We have way too many weak people in this state now and the strong ones, can no longer continue hold up the dumb and the ignorant, that is what is bringing this state to its knees.
“And how about Mr. Schwarzenegger? Did Californians screw up when they voted him in?”
The Reader’s Digest answer: YES!
It’s a really good thing Gustavo A. throws a word of Spanish of two into most of his posts.
I mean, someone might forget (or not know) he’s of Mexican ancestry otherwise.
I won’t get mad at you if you throw in a Viet word here and there. That would be fun.
I can throw around various Ojibwa or Lakota words as well. In essence, these varied indigenous dialects, not English or Spanish (European based languages), should be the “native” or official language of this country if you really want to get technical. So take that, “English Only” advocates!
Gakina Awiya Biindigeg
Vern, may cu choc tao hoai, se co ngay may biet tay tao.
I didn’t find out what “may cu choc tao hoai” means, but I am pleased to report that according to Google Translate “se co ngay may biet tay tao” means “You know your hands will be just me.” And the oracle is never wrong!
Greg D:
Google translator doesn’t work well with Vietnamese.
What I said loosely translates to, “You keep teasing me, there will come a day when you know my fist”.
Doesn’t exactly translate, but the threat of an a**-whooping is jokingly made.
Or more properly “You persist in riding my ass bare-back, prepare for me to open up a can of whoop-ass on your ass!”
My version is funnier — and that is all that matters. (Note to Quinn, Grate Juan, etc. — this rule does not apply to you.)
By the way, I forget if I’ve asked you this, but do you prefer to be addressed as “Le” (which I presume is your patronym), Dai, LDK, “Fist,” or what?
As for your threat to Vern, pal: “You know your hands will be just me”!
I don’t do Vietnamenglish. 🙂
http://jbtamayo85.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/ca-education-ranks-4850-in-the-nation/
MQ says:
In keeping with holiday compassion, I am giving you the liberal view of why California ranks 48th in the nation in education out of 50.
http://www.academia.org/california-education-reform-meltdown/
MQ Say:
No can’t do it! Sorry, we need the truth, not compassion!
You quoting right wing think tanks doesn’t fool anybody.
Do you remember the Govenator smoking Cubans in the tent outside the State House ? I suppose he had no influence over the education system.
I quoting exactly what I think, someone just wrote it down!
If your’e talking about the idiot RINO, of course he had no interest in changing things. Just as the Now superintendent Torks who is the CTA whore, who was the one who developed the QEIA AND HPSG, yeah know, NOTHING good is coming out of his office.
In the end, people listen to the corrupt unions and their whore’s our voted in, and the taxpayer and the CHILDREN lose!
“I quoting exactly what I think, someone just wrote it down!”
Aha! I think that we’ve found the problem!
So did Mathew, Mark, Luke and john?
There is a lot of great writers that I agree with, since they use facts not liberal fiction. Yes, you have found the problem, you can’t take facts, like most liberals.
Have a nice day Mr. Diamond.
Mr Diamond, I also hope that you had a nice day.
Now, DAQ (dumb ass Quinn) writes “So did Mathew, Mark, Luke and john?”. Area you referring to that big fairy tale called the Bible ? That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day!
DAQ, are you still supporting Herman Cain ? You might want to check your ticket because the Cain train is getting ready to jump the tracks and get back to selling books. That’s all he was ever trying to do. He just duped you into thinking that he was Presidential. You’re not alone, there are a lot of other dumb asses that bought that bullshit too.
You think that you are all about the truth, but you believe in the biggest lies ever told.
Why don’t you tell everyone again how much you admire Ayn Rand .
That always makes me laugh….dumb ass.
How do you know the bible is a fairy tail? Its incredible detailed. I am unlike you, i don’t follow anyone, I follow my gut, that’s the bottom line.
And I do admire Ayn Rand, she is very much like me. So laugh, does not quite fit in. So what makes you laugh?
If Ayn Rand weren’t already dead, that right there would have killed her.
“How do you know the bible is a fairy tail? Its incredible detailed.”
MQ,
By simply using your great powers of logic and deduction you have single-handedly given hope to millions of Harry Potter fans, who can now say that Harry Potter is “the boy who lives” and are frantically bumping into walls all over Kings Cross Station looking for Platform nine and three quarters (there could be a lot of injuries, so you might want to lawyer-up).
Of course Quinn admires Ayn Rand. Rand’s philosophy of pursuing self-interest above all else fits perfectly. Of course, how Quinn reconciles that with her so-called “Christian” beliefs, we’ll probably never know.
Probably what Quinn is trying to say, so inelegantly, as usual, is that she admires PART of Rand’s philosophy. The part where the free market (you know, the free market that Rand never acknowledges is partly infested by greedy, corrupt individuals who need to be restrained from their own worse impulses by an authority more powerful than they) can run amok, completely unfettered by any oversight.
A Quick reminder to those who choose to waste their time arguing with Dumb-Ass Quinn: She does not pretend to be a Christian – her one bit of honesty. So you gotta leave that part out.
But then I guess, if “anon” is a union-loving teacher, Quinn can be a Christian, huh…
“How do you know the bible is a fairy tail? Its incredible detailed.”
Words of DAQ….. sounds like somebody’s reading big books and believing them. Or maybe that’s where she hides her drugs from her kids.
I don’t know if Ayn Rand would have liked me but I have a gut feeling, she would have and I her.
And I am honest all the time, nothing that I write is dishonest. That is why I really get to liberals, they can’t stand honesty, It sometimes leads to not being politically correct.
As far as the bible is concerned, I really don’t know if it is a fairy tell or not. The fact that the life story about one man can impact so many is amazing to me. I don’t know if god exists. But I remember a quote from a movie line, that was quite profound. The preacher asks, “Do you love your father” the girls say’s ” of course I do” and the preacher replies ‘Well you can’t see love, you can’t feel it, but you just know that it is there”. I feel the same way about God, I just know that he or it what ever it might be is there. I know that Ayn Rand was an atheist and I would have loved to had a conversation about that.
And as far as hiding drugs from my kids, you are right, I don’t drink in front of my children, my kids don’t even know what a beer is.
I am touched (and I’m not being sarcastic) by Michelle’s heartfelt statement here. A few notes:
First, you stated not that you like Rand, but that you are like her. That’s where I think you’d get some pushback from her, were she alive.
Second, for the most part I think that you are honest in that you say what you really think. The problem is that sometimes you are deluded. And another problem is that you won’t concede that your ideological opponents are also honestly saying what they really think.
Here’s an example. I can, I promise you, explain very clearly the argument that “illegal aliens” (or as I prefer to call them, “those present without authorization”) harm the economy. I don’t agree with it, but I don’t think it’s a stupid argument. I just think it’s factually wrong.
Now, can you do the same in reverse? Can you explain the argument that “illegal aliens” actually help the economy?
I don’t think that you even understand the argument — that, in fact, you don’t want to, because it complicates your world. That is what I find objectionable (and sometimes laughable.) But almost everyone can be salvaged, so go ahead and take the challenge: what is my argument for why these people are not a drain on the economy?
Bullshit. Your honesty has nothing to do with what liberals think of you. It’s all about the quality and “rightness” (not to mention accuracy) of your arguments. And as far as accuracy goes, you’ve been shown to be falling short on that mark several times.
When it comes to whether or not we think you’re right, we may disagree with you frequently, but can you point to even ONE liberal on here who has made a comment as asinine as the one Grating One made to Demagogue, namely, “you’re always wrong”?
Like I said, when you look at most liberal views, common sense and intellectual honesty seems to left out mostly because liberals either have no common sense and cannot be honest with themselves or that honestly and common sense get in the way of their ideology. I think it’s both.
And please quote ANYTHING that I have been wrong on?
I have to say that no one can be wrong all the time, but being that liberals are only 20% of the population, I would say that most people are not liberals because their ideology completely makes no sense and that is proven in the states that are failing when they are run by liberals.
I’m not going back into the archives and pointing out your inaccuracies. You know damn well they’ve been pointed out, and you’ve even conceded them at times.
Mr. Diamond,
Your easily toughed I see.
I don’t know who she really was, I like her books. But as I said, ” I have a gut feeling that I would have liked her but I won’t ever know that, since she is dead.
I will give you one reason why illegal immigrants harm the economy. They make it hard for small businesses to compete with a business that hires dirt cheap labor under the table. Therefore it is much easier to hire an illegal immigrant, than to pay the taxes, insurances etc…for an American worker.
I was touched — or toughed, whichever — by your comments on religious belief.
What you originally said was “And I do admire Ayn Rand, she is very much like me.” I do know who she really was, by the way. Ecch.
I’m so happy that you raised the point about “cheap labor” that I’ll put my reply into a separate comment.
Michelle says:
This is, I’m happy to say, a legitimate concern! But it’s not so much a concern about “illegal immigrants” as it is about informal labor, violating the minimum wage and Worker’s Comp laws, etc. (That’s the subject of my post from earlier today, if you missed it.)
The important point is that this can happen even without “illegal immigrants.” In fact — take a deep breath before you go on reading, Michelle — this was the thrust of Karl Marx’s concept of the “reserve army of the unemployed.” By making sure that a proportion of the population will always be unemployed — and that, by the way, is currently official government policy, as the “full employment” that the Fed targets is below 100% — we make sure that workers have to fear being replaced by others; this, in turn, lowers their demand for higher wages and better working conditions. (This could theoretically happen even in the absence of unionization, by the way — it just rarely does.)
Now, you’re right — under the table labor, or for that matter labor from foreign sources allowed in based on trade agreements, does allow employers who pay less to gain an advantage over those who pay more. But it’s not only (or so far as I can tell even primarily) “illegal immigrants” who work for less than minimum wage or who get paid in cash. American workers can (and do) do this as well, if they think they have to. The solution is to enforce the laws against the black and grey market economy — again, the subject of my post today. The problem you identify should lead one to call for more enforcement.
I love it when I can get a client who’s an unauthorized worker here and who can point out how the boss screwed them over with a subminimum wage and such. I love it because I feel that I am doing a service not only for my client, but for competing small business who do follow the rules, as well as for the rule of law generally.
I presume that I have your support in that, right?
Now, I also asked you if you could understand the argument made by the other side, the one saying that “illegal immigrants” actually help the economy. I don’t want to let go of that question. If you don’t know the argument, please just ask!
I ask for just one, don’t you remember any of them?
How about this one, from just the other day;
“Oh, wait your (sic) right, it did not pertain to education, but the whole state being the WORST in the nation. California ranks 48th in the nation regarding education. MY BAD!”
You said, that I don’t correct myself or I am unwilling too. Well, I did say ” it did not pertain to education but being the worst run state”.
And I believe from looking at several sources like we do indeed rank 48th in the nation as far as the quality of education.
So really we are two states away from being the worst run state and the worst education. Right?
Will you admit to being wrong about Herman Cain ?
And you are definitely wrong about your kids not knowing what a beer is, and they definitely know when you have been drinking your wine.
Focus now, focus…I didn’t say that you don’t correct yourself. I said that it’s not your “honesty” we take issue with…it’s the “rightness,” and sometimes the accuracy of what you say.
Why should I be wrong about Mr. Cain. The fact that he was cheating on his wife if it is true is between him and his wife. I still liked his 999 plan although it has a few things in it that bothered me and I still believe that he would have made a better president that OB, really anyone would at this stage. So how is BO working out for you? Do you think you made a mistake, when you made Mr. BO the head of the free world?
But then I say, you had no idea what the guys was really like until he took the reins and then he bombed. Though he did have the b@@@@ to allow the seals to go get BL. I like him as a person he seems very nice, but as the president, he sucks.
Oh, but you DID say that I don’t concede to being wrong and I do.
But really I am not wrong, that we have the worst education in the nation, 48th? Is it really that much from 50th? But as far as being the worst run state, will that fact is obvious.
Dammit Quinn, now you’re pissing me off…I DID NOT say that you don’t concede that you’re wrong. Stop misrepresenting what I say!
You misrepresented a study on the state, and admitted that you did so. It’s got nothing to do with “how far off” you were.
It is not just between him and his wife.His actions have affected a lot of other people.
Like his kids who found out that he’s a big fat liar. There goes the wonderful image of an honest man to look up to that is your dad.
His donors, who wasted buckets full of money to promote a man who wasn’t even a family man, let alone presidential.
I think 999 adds up to a big fat ZERO.
He’ll be perfect working over at Fox.
Ms DAQ……
Yesterday I posted on another thread the effects of drugs and alcohol. Here it is:
http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2011/12/obama-murdergate-coverup-highly-retaliatory/comment-page-1/#comment-178951
You should read it, and your kids should read it, if they are old enough to read.
You are doing them no favors by trying to pretend that liquor doesn’t exist, and you are doing them no favors by lying to them about your own usage. It is far better to teach them what it is and how to responsibly use it. Or choose not to use it.
When she turns eighteen and is on her own, it would be cruel not to have educated her properly. She will eventually find out.
Democrap,
My husband does not drink and I choose to (cause they are my children) not drink in front of my children. It is just a choice. I just know from my childhood that my friends (mothers and fathers) would often drink in front of us and I kind of thought it was tacky. So it’s just a choice and if my kids want to drink in front of their children that will be their choice. See there you liberals go again, thinking YOU know what is best for me and my family.
And as far as Mr. Cain, are you a fly on their walk, how do you know what the Cain’s know and do not know? And as far as working at Fox, i think he would get a job easier at CNN ect. they gave Spitzer a job right off the bat. But again men are men and they can be very stupid when it comes to power and women.
Don’t get your knickers in a twist woman!
If I am trying to misrepresent something, then why would I correct it, I did say my bad and really are we happy that we are only 48th out of 50?
Ok foes, I’m off to Disney Land, have a lovely weekend:0)
Mr. Diamond,
did you not say that you made 0 money off illegal immigration? And no I do not agree with you making money suing an American citizen for hiring an illegal worker, who most likely made more money in a week here in the US, than he would have in Mexico/central America.
The reason there is a huge illegal immigrant population is because Americans cannot hire Americans and make a profit. Especially here in California there is so many regulations that require that the employers pay ridiculous liabilities, work man comp etc…………..The fact that California makes it almost impossible to hire American Workers undercuts everything, wages, quality of life in this state. Most likely the illegal immigrant that you represented, knew exactly what he was doing when he took the job. Hiring illegal immigrants really needs to be stopped and the best way to stop it, is make it easier for companies to hire American workers and pay them well.
I am for free exchange of labor across national lines, I don’t believe thought that a foreign worker should be treated better and with more consideration than the native one. I am TOTALLY against allowing foreign workers to obtain welfare of any kind also, either for them or their children. I think you can try to make the case all you want that illegal is good for the economy, well, I say that illegal immigration is neither good for the economy or the culture as we can see all around us.
About this:
would anyone else here like to sink this two-foot putt?
As for this:
(1) Oh, I’m pretty sure that’s not true, and
(2) the fact that you cite this as “the reason there is a huge illegal immigrant population” here means that you’re now justifying illegal immigration as necessary for profit.
I was going to write “the mind reels,” but it your case it merely oozes.
“no I do not agree with you making money suing an American citizen for hiring an illegal worker, who most likely made more money in a week here in the US
would anyone else here like to sink this two-foot putt?”
Because the American justice system does not care if your illegal activity is altruistically helping someone less fortunate.
So if the employer isn’t too wealthy, then you might have a chance. If he has real deep pockets, then you will become educated in the reality of our two-tiered justice system.
The very large employer lawyers his way out of the charges, and writes it off as a cost of doing business. The smaller operator is usually made an example of.
Justice for the rich…. and justice for everybody else.
Did I get it right?
Sorry, what I meant to say is that they make more here in a week, than a lot of their citizens do in a year.
That is fact, bye the way!
You overlook of course why I am saying that Americans cannot hire Americans mostly in this state, it’s because this state is the most unfriendly state in the union to conduct business in. The overhead is extremely costly. The reason people cannot hire American workers is because A. They can pay illegal Aliens under the table, so they cut out having to pay the corrupt insurance companies and the ridiculous pay roll taxes etc….I understand why Americans do it, I don’t agree with them doing it, because they bring down the wages, and quality of life for everyone else in this state.
Please Democrap, save the pity for the less fortune guy for someone who does not know who is very much benefiting from a corrupt system, and it’s not American/legal working class families. It is much easier to be an illegal alien family in this state than a legal one. And of course people like Mr. Diamond who is just one of many Americans who love illegal immigrants because they know that the systems seems to lean very much on the side of people who are not either legal or American citizens. How can someone who broke the law to come here, have any rights to complain about having a low wage given to them, when of course we all know that just bull. Most illegal immigrants get a fair wage. The whole poor illegal immigrants thing is dead in the water. The fact that they are here and not in Mexico or some other hell making a buck and getting social services up the ying, yang is very fortunate for them!
If you look at the legal aid society here in Orange County some of the money that the get actually comes from the feds and the Orange County Court system etc….. Even though they are not supposed to help people who are not legal citizens, they do and because they are a 501, a citizen cannot find out who they are helping. So from the ACLU to Legal Aid Society, illegal immigrants can sue their rich bosses more easily than a poor middle class American can. That is a fact! Ok, have a great week!
You can’t find out who they’re helping, yet you’re sure they’re helping significant numbers of illegals. That’s quite a trick you do.
The weatherman is right more often than DAQuinn.
Oh, But you are wrong. I went to our local welfare office in Anaheim and was told by an employee, that the have no choice but to help the parents because by law, they are able to give the illegal parents all aid and cal works money in the parents name Via, the American child. So I know who is getting the goodies but really, a lot of American public employees in California don’t care, because to them the 35% of welfare recipients is money in their pocket.
Why do you think that there is a majority of welfare offices, clinics, non-profits are in Santa Ana? Its because that is where most of Mexico’s/Central American poor reside. But of course that is changing, the poor are even spilling into areas of Tustin, MV etc… (Schools are now beginning to fail) crime is on the increase and Americans are crowding their kids into one or two local schools that don’t have many apartments around them.
But until Americans demand the Mexican Parents start making an effort to help educate their kids then schools will continue to fail because as public employee’s the teachers are not going to do it. And back to moan bag Mexican wonder, I wonder if he ever thanked the Americans that paid for his education? I bet not.
MICHELLE YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME WITH DEMOCRAP . IF YOU STATE A FACT THAT THEY DONT AGREE WITH OR ARE AGAINST . IT CAME FROM A RIGHT WING THINK TANK .
Hey Bleating Juan…..DAQuinn is quoting stories that are from 2007 and 2009, and the authors are linked to the usual righty think tanks. I am not making this up.
Put down your beer and read what she spews out. Quit being a stupid follower of her crap. Join a different flock, sheep head.
Oh, so the truth has a time limit?
Put down the pot love, TGO, does not follow me, he is not of the collective.
Do I bother you?
Bye the way, just noticed that you’re calling me DAQUINN….Where I am from, we called are teachers that:)
pissing off dope heads like democrap make my day
Sorry to ruin your day Grate Juan, but you don’t piss me off in any way.
I find you rather amusing.
You’re an immigrant who hates immigrants. Yeah, now that I’m here, shut the door and don’t let any more like me in. You and DAQuinn are in the same leaky boat on that one. No offense to how you got here.
You and DAQuinn also are hilarious because you have been completely duped by the Republicans. You support a party that doesn’t have your best interests in mind. The have you distracted with gay marriage, immigrants, unions, deficits, teachers etc., while they rob you blind.
It’s obvious that neither one of you are in the 1%, but you support a party that is a one trick pony; “tax cuts for the wealthy will create jobs.” Oh, and one more ” let’s be involved in endless wars.” So while the left hand is holding up the shiny object of how you can hate all of these “others”, the right hand is picking your pocket.
So you think that you are oh so smart with quoting stale information ( and yes DAQ, there is a time limit on the truth. In Jesus time the fastest way to Bethlehem was on horseback. That is no longer the truth.) that your little paws can find on Google. So you have some knowledge, but you have no wisdom. I’ll explain the difference.
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put the tomato in the fruit salad.
And no, I don’t smoke pot. Look at the time stamp on this post. All the stoners are still sleeping. Dumb ass.
The republicans????? No, demacrap, I am an independent. When I vote, I do my homework. I listen to people who make sense, use facts and are NOT liberals.
TGO, does not hate anyone, nor do I. We are against illegal immigration because we can see for ourselves what it has done to local schools and communities. NOT GOOD!
I am for the working class, people who work and most likely a lot of the rich, are rich because of their work ethic. I am not mega rich but i am comfortable because I am a hard worker. I think gay marriage would become a legal nightmare, I think public school teachers are overpaid and underperform and its obvious that unions are corrupt and way too powerful in this nation. And the only ones that are picking my pocket is the government to feed, house, and cater to lots and lots of losers etc…..
There is NO time line on the truth, when the truth is a solid fact. The fact is that you don’t know every stoner and their might just be an early rising stoner, dumb a@@ 🙂
“And no, I don’t smoke pot. Look at the time stamp on this post. All the stoners are still sleeping. Dumb ass.”
***AHEM****
I proudly proclaim that I use cannabis sativa and see no shame in it (vaporization is my preferred method of delivery due to it being easier on the lungs). Contrary to some misleading myths known as “popular belief” or as they usually say on Fox News “some sources tell us” to give their stories the illusion of being accurate, not all of us stoners sleep in. Some of us are early birds.
As Willis would say…there’s always exceptions.
Do you think that you are the exception, or the majority.
Personally, I’ve got nothing against a wake and bake.
I rest my case:)
One early rising stoner, can’t be a fact, so many stoners, there has to be more than one.
And you are still completely wrong about me smoking pot.
Apology accepted.
democrap let me read you . i laughed at your post on here . you have been blinded by the what i called the nanny state aka obama generation . you dont support the laws of this country when it comes to immigration . your i am entitled mentalilly is the minority . as far best interest its the party i support i dont always agree with them . BUT I WOULD never support your views and the far left agenda . . i consired your kind the 1% . the one percent that is trying to take down this country .. union hacks are killing this state but thats ok with you . your more n likely a state employee . . your a pretender llib open minded my ass . when someone disagrees with you with a fact . you and some others on here twist it around and attack them ..YOU guys think your the smart ones well we can see your party has done a great job in this country and especially calif . knowledge is good . your knowledge is polluted . more n likely from lib teachers . so keep toking away you thought you where asleep .
You are consistently wrong Grunting Juan.
I have never worked for the state or federal government. I own my business.
According to you all teachers are libs. So what’s your point. You had lib teachers?
You’re tilting at windmills Juan Quixote.
Quixote had noble ideals.
Michelle Quinn, you really need to learn to write better.
Sheesh. Why not just ask her to cure cancer, while you’re at it?
Shhhhhhhhhhh! You’ll wake her up.
And don’t worry about waking me up, I am up at 5am, got lots to do and people to see:)
Thanks, I will try to do better.
no demo your always wrong . your side is mostly wrong. and i got my own thing going democrap . no i was able to be done with school before lib teachers brainwashed you
It all makes sense to me now.
You have no one to blame but yourself.
I weep for your future.
Yeah Demagogue, you’re always wrong and Grating Juan is always right.
Thank you for your childish simplicity, Grating Juan. You always teach us that’s it’s best to bring a third grader’s maturity level to one’s debate.
I love it, this whole thread has entirely lost its original topic, and become a showcase for Orange Juice personalities. The mosh pit.
Isn’t this worth SOME sort of honorable mention, Gustavo?
Since the topic has melted like Gustavo’s face…..
How about a new contest?
Best of 2011 memorable quotes, ridiculous arguments, richest B.S.
I’m not sure that we’ve lost our original topic; perhaps this is just our way of congratulating Gustavo!
yes i can add you to list with democrap , anon , anonster , you libs are always right with your thinking haaaaaaaa ohhhhhhhhhh OK
OH AND VERN YOUR RIGHT. WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS GUSTAVO TOPIC ..