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The raging fires in Arizona, besides consuming thousands of acres of forest and countryside, are also fanning the flames of debate about immigration.
The Huffington Post, AOL News, reports this morning that after touring one of the massive fires on the Arizona- New Mexico border U.S. Senator John McCain stated that there is “substantial evidence that some of these fires are caused by people who crossed our borders illegally.”
“They have set fires because they signal others, they have set fires to keep warm, and they have set fires in order to divert law enforcement agents and agencies from them,” McCain said. He added that this is yet another example of why we need a secure U.S.-Mexico border.
The story goes on to report that Latino groups sharply criticized McCain for his remarks. “With the lack of evidence, he might as well also blame aliens from outer space for the fires,” Angelo Falcon, the president of the National Institute for Latino Policy, told CNN. Randy Parraz, whose organization Citizens for a Better Arizona, is trying to recall the senator who sponsored the state’s controversial anti-illegal immigration law, called McCain’s remarks “careless and reckless.”
What do Orange Juice readers think about McCain’s remarks?
Also,
“On Sunday, Tom Berglund, a U.S. Forest Service spokesman, told ABC News that there is no evidence that undocumented immigrants had caused the Wallow fire. ‘Absolutely not, at this level,’ Berglund said. ‘There’s no evidence that I’m aware, no evidence that’s been public, indicating such a thing.’”
Not that he is aware of. Our leaders are the last to know and the first to speak. Beer Summit comes to mind.
Your headline is patently misleading. McCain said NOTHING of immigrants. His accusation, if quoted correctly is that ILLEGAL boarder crossers have started similar fires in the past. Please recognize the difference between ILLEGAL boarder crossers and legal immigrants.
What McCain is doing is LYING and trying to blame illegal immigrants for starting the fire in order to justify terrible laws like SB1070. Either way he is promoting hatred and ignorance.
Who knows, the fires mighta been started by Minutemen or other vigilantes out there in their zeal to chase down the Meskins.
Vern. The list is endless. I am surprised that no one has blamed the Boy Scouts at a campout.
“Please recognize the difference between ILLEGAL boarder crossers and legal immigrants.”…….. Hmmmmm
This is a clear example why I do distinguish between Intellect and Intelligence
Leftists are mostly intellectuals, meaning that their knowledge is acquired from others mostly from other Leftists.
So Leftists have a tendency to recite someone else knowledge without been able to see if that knowledge makes any sense because they are lacking their own genetically acquired intelligence quotient (“IQ”)
So do not expect that OBNO will ever figure out on his own IQ difference between legal and illegal immigrants.
That is also why leftist promote human unity because many brains with diminished IQ can always function better then a humble individual with high IQ like me.
Leftists and religious people can exists only in the flocks and unions so they can produce most stupid social condition for others based on their limited IQ but promoted by grate power of unity.
Stupid and many.
He has no evidence so he should not have made the accusation. That said, illegal immigrants is the correct term he should have used if I read him right. A few years ago there were terrible fires in San Diego County that started in areas where illegals camped and even had little stores set up. Can’t prove they started those either. But when you have these illegals who trash our desert, grow pot in our forests and poison it with meth labs there is a good chance they start the fires in the wilderness. There is no proof of course but there are more illegals in those areas than other people. Secure the border anyway , whether they start the fires or not.
Secure the border anyway , whether they start the fires or not.
Well, there we get to a more basic problem, DWM. How can we make the borders any more secure? The Feds under both Bush and Obama have increased personnel on the border about twice as high as it’s ever been, and it’s really adding strain to our budget. What’s your solution? A 4000-mile electrical fence surrounded by a moat with crocodiles?
DHS has a 57 Billion dollar budget, of which only 10% goes to ICE. That 5.7 Billion is barely a hair on a pimple of the Federal budget’s backside. It employs under 22,000 agents.
Compare the ‘Defense’ Department as a whole gets over 550 billion, and has I believe more than a million active duty service members.
Anyone who thinks Obama (or Bush or Clinton before him) are serious about border security and immigration enforcement needs to keep those figures in mind. If ICE had one tenth of the ‘Defense’ department’s resources, and employed them semi-effectively, the illegal alien problem would shrink to insignificance.
But then ethnic activist politicians and the cheap labor lobby would be out of luck.
Vern, the “immigrants” probably had documents, they were just fake.
There use to be a border called IRON CURTAIN which I have personally crossed in the1968.
There is no border you can’t cross. [trust me]
That is why I do not believe in the borders.
I believe that we should not provide welfare to these who do not follow the rules.
A minute I have crossed illegally border from Yugoslavia to Italy I was documented and checked by the Interpol. Should there be something wrong I would go to jail.
http://ocsatire.com/images/Refuge-Pass2.jpg
Remember that I was a Military officer and had legally issued gun in the old communist Czechoslovakia but left it at home when crossing the Iron Curtain.
Because of my impeccable IQ, I have figured out that if I shoot someone I will go to jail for long, long time whether in the West or East.
That is why I am legally here, prosperous, high IQ and free spirit individual
This couldn’t conceivably be Stanislav Fiala, could it?
No, that guy’s in permanent self-imposed exile, whereas this “From The Exile” commenter practically lives here.