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Under California law children who are U.S. citizens by birth, but who have immigrant parents who are not here legally, are eligible for CalWORKS and other welfare programs if the family, including the parents, lack assets and adequate income to care for the family. In other words, if they meet the CalWORKS eligibility criteria. This results in the bizarre situation where the undocumented parents of some children report their wages to the county welfare department on a monthly or quarterly basis so the benefits the children are entitled to can be determined.
Setting aside for the moment that this is a situation in which people who theoretically are not legally entitled to work in California are reporting their wages to the county welfare department on a regular basis, the reality is that the CalWORKS program helps support working poor families, and some of these families have children who are U.S. citizens but parents who do not have legal status here.
County Supervisor Michael Antonovich of LA County has been a proponent of curbing the eligibility of children of undocumented parents from receiving welfare assistance. Most recently, according to a press release from Antonovich, the monthly tab for these kids hit $53 million in Los Angeles County alone. His press release says the $ 53 million is a combination of CalWORKS and Food Stamps and is a $3 million increase over the month of November. It also states that this $ 53 million is 22% of the total monthly expenditure in LA County for CalWORKS and Food Stamps, and of course the total tab for 12 months will be about $600 million. This growing cost is labeled as unsustainable by Antonovich.
Of course Los Angeles County is but one of 58 counties in California. But, it is a big county and that makes the issue and its cost increasingly visible.
Government at all levels is faced with costs that exceed available revenue. The 011-012 fiscal year that starts July 1 is likely to see serious cuts to government services at many levels. As communities lose services, including the layoff of police, firefighters, teachers and others that provide essential services, welfare costs – especially those for citizen children of undocumented parents – will increasingly be a hot button issue in the political arena. Maybe even in Orange County.
It’s long past time to stop this entitlement to illegal families. Cut them off? No, not immediately, but reduce their benefits by 10% per month until they reach zero and force their parents out of the country. There’s also no legal reason not to report the source of their parents’ wages to the “authorities” and get their butts fired. Maybe real Americans can have those jobs.
Life’s hard. Illegals make mine harder and it’s not up to ME, a legal citizen, to feed them.
The gravy train’s turning cold and greasy. Time for these people to go.
good points there. So tired of the heartless arguing against the bleeding hearts.
It is much worst than you think:
I have spoken to people at the Orange County Social Services and it was stated to me that it is MUCH easier for illegal parents (mostly Single mother’s who have gotten knocked) only need to show their face. If you are hispanic and don’t speak English there is practically a red carpet at the door! It is a fact that an American family has to show all sorts of documentation including cars, home’s etc… If you are an Illegal Alien your mate can give you a paycheck with $50 on it and medical, calworks etc… is set out for you on a silver platter.
Why? Being brown, hispanic and illegal is the best thing in the world as far as California welfare entitlements go!
I have been to the local Anaheim office and spoke with idiots that work there! Their take on it is that they are helping the underserved and the vulnerable, no matter their origin and it’s not their money anyway…They get a job out of it!
It is beyond ridiculous, it is all a huge fraud for expanding government and spreading the wealth around to illegal aliens, public workers, non-profits, and developers!
And there is NO ONE who can deny this fact!
Don’t have a US Passport or a Drivers License or legal ID? OUT!
And get the hell out of our schools if you don’t speak English. You’re holding MY kid back. And I can’t afford to send her to a private school because I’m feeding and schooling yours.
I totally agree with you. Dream act is not okay. I’m latina and I am absolutely againstmy people! Why? because they think the world owes it to them. The more yu give the more they want. It so ridiculous! All they do is have babys for their own benefit. They are so rude no manners. They get welfare? Its rewarding them for doing illegal shit.
Under US law if the Child is a citizen then that Child regardless of is the parent status legal, illegal, foster, adopted, etc are all eligable for the same programs.
You cannot just cut the program for someone based on who their parent or legal guardian is or what languarge they happen to speak.
The payouts may have to be reduced to balance the budgets and staff may need to be reduced also, but it will have to be applied equally to all.
Under federal law immigration law it is unlawful to be here in this country without permission. It is also unlawful to harbor or help an Alien in this country. So the moral of the story the parent and the us children should and would be deported if the Americans who are elected by American people did their job.
That is it, very simple and cost effective!
When the kids grew up they can come back!
And Jesus looking upon him loved him, and said to him,
“You lack one thing; go, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Oh, Please a Christian Country is a country that helps themselves and then their neighbors!
Christians rely on God and themselves not the bloody Government!
One of my biggest problems with MK!
Sounds like a lot on money, where does the money go? The kids being talked about don’t look wealthy to me, so who is getting the money?
The Corona Company, eye brow threaders and big hair people! Really, who do you think? Oh, and the BMW!
I was kidding, I know who the beneficiaries of the government largeness.
It filters all the way UP the food change to the fat cats on Wall Street and their government and bureaucratic Henchmen.
The mexicans have been getting screwed over pretty good for the last 150 years so if they’ve found a way to game the system good for them – tit for tat – learn to take it as well as dish it out.
I find Mexicans are always looking back and never forward….They will educate you all day on their Aztec ancestor’s, but are incapable of basic math and english!
They could not care less about math because Chicano’s studies is so much more ethno hip!
I have never been more sick and tried of hearing about a ethnic group in my life…I use to love going to Taco Mesa…now I can’t stomach going.
They have found a way to game a system that allows them to be as corrupt here as they are in their own country!
Michelle.
While we appreciate your many contributions to the discussion of issues on our blog you know the rules as it relates to personal attacks. In this case you are attacking an entire ethnic group which I find offensive.
If that is offensive to you, then you might not like the fact that I have been constantly referred to as a drunk, as in drunken Irish and that I need to get lxxx, as in the fact that I am a woman and women are only good when on their backs.
My comments however are observations based on facts: It is a fact that hispanics have the lowest (next to our blacks friends) graduation rates, the lowest english/math proficiency scores and is it not true that we have been inundated with Mexicans culture and how great it is, when the truth is that Mexico is and has always been full of corruption. Chicano studies is a ridiculous ethnocentric load of crap and it is a waste of our taxpayers money!
And Yes, I cant go to Mexican restaurants anymore because quite frankly I don’t what to support a population that has a lot of racists with in their ranks! And because I am white I am only good when I bring my wallet!
MQ.
As I do not read every comment on the Juice, especially when they are not tied to my posts, I have witnessed your bashing of Latinos. I’m certain that you can make your point without the need to slam everyone that happens to be of Mexican descent
Hey, If you are going to dish it out, join the big boys and girls for once!
As I do read a lot of other posts written by mostly Mexicans I have witnessed a trend of bashing anyone past and present that have come to these shores from Europe and I will defend my ancestors just as passionate as the so called Native peoples to these shores! If I appear to be slamming, it’s just what I call tit for tat!
” I’m certain that you can make your point without the need to slam everyone that happens to be of Mexican descent”
MQ says:
I hope I don’t need to be slamming EVERYONE that happens to be of Mexican descent, because that would differently be a lot of racists and fools!
Lets just hope that is not the case!
And Larry, you are getting a little NBC/CNN are you not? Just an observation!
MQ. No, I am not being “politically correct” with my comment to you.
Ask anyone who has known me for the past 20 years. I do not sugar coat any of my posts or speeches at city council meetings. This is not a popularity trip for me nor is it the National Enquirer
And I am not running for any political position. I am stated what most people are thinking because it is obvious all around us! Today I was given from a Dr. Friend: Section 1011 fact sheet for federal reimbursement of emergency health services furnished to the UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS. http://WWW.trailblazerhealth.com/section1011.
If I was not already pissed off enough before I read the fact that I can’t even afford to pay for my employees families and the fact that are healthcare cost are going to sky rocket because the US government has obviously become so PC and unable to distinguish between their own citizens/foreign nationals!
So excuse me if I get a little testy with hispanic who BASH my ancestors who obviously today are paying up the ying yang to feed, clothe and pay for unsustainable healthcare cost for them and their children….
And If you have read any of my posts it is absolutely not a popularity trip or a need for your approval Mr. Gilbert. I speak from my head, not my heart!
It is only the truth and the truth may not be very PC or warm and fuzzy!
Section 1011 was signed into law December 8 2003 as part of MMA.
MQ also likes to pretend that she herself is not a burden to other taxpayers, but as a recent immigrant who came to this country and promptly dropped a few kids, she too has been sucking up far more benefits than she has contributed.
If she has a business, which I doubt, and she isn’t providing healthcare to her employees, that is just one more way she is burdening other taxpayers.
Go back to Ireland MQ, the US doesn’t need anymore freeloaders.
“MQ also likes to pretend that she herself is not a burden to other taxpayers, but as a recent immigrant who came to this country and promptly dropped a few kids, she too has been sucking up far more benefits than she has contributed.”
MQ says:
I contribute far more than just money…. I contribute what is lost in your American birth…A love for this country, self reliance, common sense, sense of humor, and an all American beauty. And yes, a nice big fat paycheck for other americans to feed, clothe and provide healthcare to their families!
“Go back to Ireland MQ, the US doesn’t need anymore freeloaders.”
MQ says:
Why don’t you go to Ireland, you will love it you can suck up to a sh*& load of socialist!
I am an American Citizen with a cute accent… I know it boil your elitist, daddy paid for old sh(* collecting blood!
Have a nice day:)
“I contribute far more than just money…. I contribute what is lost in your American birth…A love for this country, self reliance, common sense, sense of humor, and an all American beauty. And yes, a nice big fat paycheck for other americans to feed, clothe and provide healthcare to their families!”
LOL, what you contribute is a lot of WHINING and RACIST BIGOTRY, you may think you are charming and humorous,but what really shines through is your ignorance and your very ugly self-righteousness.
YOU DON’T ADD ANYTHING to the US, you are a negative, you have taken advantage of other peoples money and contributions to this society and all you can do is piss and moan about other immigrants doing the same.
In short, you are a hypocrite.
“I am an American Citizen with a cute accent… I know it boil your elitist, daddy paid for old sh(* collecting blood!”
You don’t know jack about me or anyone else on this blog, but that has never stopped you from making assumptions about what others do or their lifestyles. You must be too stupid to be embarrassed by your behavior, otherwise you might have learned NOT to repeat your mistakes, you make Pavlov’s dog look like a genius by comparison.
Michelle,
Try some direct action – like starting a protest movement – don’t eat any foods picked, processed or cooked by illegals.
how about deporting and enforcing the law larry instead of giving them all the free stuff .
thats larry m not larry g
The Great One will take in how many foster kids?
We ought to enforce the laws against hiring the kids parents and send a few business owners and farmers to jail – whoops those are mostly Republicans so maybe its a bad idea.
hey larry i am all for arresting people who hire them . we got to stop the freebies they get . so they want to come over here in groves .. im for stoping the anchor babies . you see these people at their marches with strollers and their 4 kids . all paid by yours truly . but of course getting free hand outs is a great idea = oops for lib democrats
If you want a sustainable population, you have to end illegal immigration. We shouldn’t spend more than we make. We shouldn’t use natural resources faster then they get replaced. And we shouldn’t let Mexico dump people in our country instead of providing them with an education, health care, food, and jobs. Mexico is corrupt and one of the most unsustainable countries around.
Its hard sending your kids to school when they see their class mates getting free breakfast, lunch, and after school programs. They see it and ask “why am I left out?” We don’t make enough to offer these things to our kids, so why am I paying for everyone else?
Inoc,
I feel ya!
But at least we can sit back and watch the losers scrabble when the money runs out!
It’s going to be mighty fun to watch!
🙂
LOL, what you contribute is a lot of WHINING and RACIST BIGOTRY, you may think you are charming and humorous,but what really shines through is your ignorance and your very ugly self-righteousness.
MQ says:
LAUGH OUT LOUD? I assume you don’t take whining and racist bigotry very serious then. Of course you don’t!
When it comes to myself I try to be righteous, but really it a tough world out there, so full of brats and losers just wanting more and more. Then there is people like you who want to take from others who work their butts off to give to your CHARITABLE causes because after all you know better than the rest of us!
“You don’t know jack about me or anyone else on this blog,”
MQ says:
I know enough to know that you are die hard liberal because most likely you walked into well to do shoes, never earn them. Most likely you are a baby boomer and like a lot of baby boomer you are not like your parents!
” You must be too stupid to be embarrassed by your behavior, otherwise you might have learned NOT to repeat your mistakes, you make Pavlov’s dog look like a genius by comparison.”
MQ says:
My name, my true name is right by every thing I write unlike yourself. So it does not take a genius to figure out that you don’t want anyone to know who YOU are because YOU might be either embarrassed about what you right or regretful. I on the other hand stand by everything I write 110% percent. The only sly dog here is YOU!
Take a chill pill girl you’re letting your blue blood show:)
LOL:)
MQ (?), I don’t need your name (?) to KNOW that you are a nasty, racist, hate filled hypocrite.
It’s actually pathetic that you “stand by everything I write 110% percent”;
“I find Mexicans are always looking back and never forward….They will educate you all day on their Aztec ancestor’s, but are incapable of basic math and english!”
I guess you’re too ignorant to realize that you should be ashamed and I can only conclude that your “name” means nothing to you.
MICHELL we know anoster is far left of left . i can see her wearing a red beret with a che t shirt . a snot nose lib im better than you . you dont matter our way is the best .. let her live in cuba or russia or in velanzuela with her pal hugo and see how she likes her way .
MQ (?), I don’t need your name (?) to KNOW that you are a nasty, racist, hate filled hypocrite.
MQ says:
Yeah, ok! Sorry, for not agreeing with your above statement since the only hate filled statements have sprang to life from you’re lovely statements!
I should start an anger management non-profit for liberal’s, it does not seem like Dr. Phil is working for ya!
“I find Mexicans are always looking back and never forward….They will educate you all day on their Aztec ancestor’s, but are incapable of basic math and english!”
MQ says:
True….I really think it has to do with self esteem issues. I don’t really know why Mexicans are so obsessed with their culture, all I can equate it too is a feeling that they abandoned their country because they had too, and feel guilty about it!
LA County over half of all kids are failing in basic math and English, but ask any Mexican teen about the Mexican/American war and they are experts on the white invasion! If it was not serious it would be funny! But I suppose that has a lot to do with being segregated and a product of their environment!
“I guess you’re too ignorant to realize that you should be ashamed and I can only conclude that your “name” means nothing to you.”
MQ says:
The truth is nothing to be ashamed off, but calling someone a nasty, racist, hypocrite is!
And all I can say is your names means everything when you are willing to use it to introduce yourself to a world full of ignorant, horrible people!
It’s called guts and integrity and a good sense of one self!
“It’s called guts and integrity and a good sense of one self!”
You can try and cover-up with puffery that big stinking pile o’crap that you are constantly spewing out, but the smell and the mess remains and leads straight to your Irish ass.
(I sometimes wonder if I’m being too hard on you MQ and then I go back and reread your ugly, ignorant, racist rants and I think, no, you’ve earned it.)
michell can hold her own in here but anoster i have seen your rants in here too . and it stinks to high heaven . just like a typical lib who thinks her shit dont stink . i have read your post and belive me you have EARNED IT .
I use Irish spring soap my ass never smells:)
And you are most welcome to get as hard on me as you wish…it’s like scraping sh&$ off my shoe!
Though do me a favor and come up with some other character attack words..so boring!
Get barbaric on me, let your wood stock self go all out!
Smile, it’s a lovely day!
Hi TGO 🙂
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet and your imbecilic and ethnocentrically repulsive, venom filled diatribes are still a foul steaming mound of mick shit.
Oh and by the by, all the soap in the world can’t wash YOU clean.
I aim to please.
“A rose by any other name would smell as sweet and your imbecilic and ethnocentrically repulsive, venom filled diatribes are still a foul steaming mound of mick shit.”
MQ says:
Losing it our we?
Lol, Mick ah? FYI. Since I am from Northern Ireland technically I would be a limey or in Northern Ireland’s case, it would be a teg!
“Oh and by the by, all the soap in the world can’t wash YOU clean.”
Since you are hippy, I would say you stink more than me…for all sorts of reason’s! Everyone ones the old saying, “stinking hippies!”.
I am glad you are pleasing yourself; good luck, that’s a hard one I think!
You are good crack Anonster:)