What language did Ben use when he approached these very young ladies, at a No Doubt concert?
The Amezcua campaign was out in full force at last night’s Santa Ana City Council meeting. We have already chronicled how they resorted to lame miming and then refused to take the podium, as they had nothing to say.
I wonder if Amezcua will now step up to the defense of Alex Vega, a Santa Ana resident who commented last night, in Spanish. When Vega was leaving he was accosted by Ben Grabiel, a member of the Apartment Owners Association of Orange County. Grabiel cursed at Vega and demanded to know why he did not speak in English.
For the record, our residents have the express right to speak in whatever language they want to!
I wonder if Grabiel forces his renters to speak in English only as well?
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“For the record, our residents have the express right to speak in whatever language they want to!”…….. Lies, Lies Lies.
Same happened to me. Vega is provocateur and is using Spanish to insult Americans. I was speaking after him once and have started in Czech. Pulido told me that he does not understand and told me to speak english or get lost.
So I do not know where you getting your info from Zorro
I heard his comments. They were not insulting at all. He was quite eloquent actually.
I am not talking about the substance of the speech I am talking about insensitivity to others.
His English is as good as mine.
He can use it.
I was polite in my Czech too.
It is offensive, and if you do not understand that then I gave up.
Just remember that for these reasons and other poking into the eye Florida is cumming up with even tougher law than Arizona…… is Obama gone sue all 52 states?
Just because of people like you and Vega all Mexican will get screwed.
Some women in the front row wanted an English translation of what Alex had said.
The Mayor said “NO”
Then quickly a very shorten version of what Alex said was told.
I don’t think those ladies were happy.
If it is true that Alex speaks Spanish as an insult to non-Spanish speaking Anglo’s, the council should take appropriate measures to stop this insulting practice.
cook,
He wasn’t insulting anyone. He has a right to speak in Spanish. If folks don’t like that, let them learn Spanish.
I wonder what would you say if the supervisor Janet Nguyen allow Vietnamese only without a translation during the supervisors’ meeting?
Would you give same advise?….. “If folks don’t like that, let them learn Vietnamese”
Caveat Art: Kill that roach, the ganja was not legalized yet!
Fiala,
I have no issue with folks speaking in Vietnamese.
“I have no issue with folks speaking in Vietnamese.”……. interesting.
So if Vietnamese ask Janet Nguyen for money to build new memorial in Vietnamese language, and Janet ask public for any opposition and you do not know what was said and she approves it because you did not object…….. that would be a OK with you?
Fiala,
If she is stupid enough to do that it will surely backfire on her. Besides, she barely speaks Vietnamese. I on the other hand speak fluent Spanish.
Art, you are not responding to my concern about your illogical statement…… “If folks don’t like that, let them learn Spanish.” (meaning at the City open public meeting)
Obviously your statement is indefensible so I am not going to push it. However you should try to act more intelligently next time.
Well we might not have to put up with all that language silliness much longer.
With the owner of the Fiesta Market Place pouring money into it. (the 4th street business district)
To rework its demographics and refocus in from a mono-culture attraction to a multi-culture attraction, it is only a matter of time before the White inflow will push out the slums of the old downtown and prepare the 66 blocks for a miraculously turnaround.
And the entire council is behind him 100 percent.
I also noticed that Mr. Rush was featured in the presentation, But not Mr. Mill or Mr. Pedroza.
Apparently no manner how hard you slap down the “usual suspects “ they just keep bouncing back to the top of the heap.
cook,
Why would we be in the presentation? For the record, I have met with the ladies at Downtown Inc and am working with them to promote their activities on my New Santa Ana blog.
And it won’t be white folks who will change our city, but rather Asians. Should make for great neighborhood potlucks!
“working with them to promote their activities”
…………. Glad to hear
” it won’t be white folks who will change our city, but rather Asians. ”
……….. you may be right about that.
Sean, I am just giving you a hard time. (With Rush comment)
Cook,
Did you also notice that Mr. Rush is a convicted felon and was featured in a prison cell, but not Mr. Mill or Mr. Pedroza?
No matter how hard people try and promote the “usual suspects” you can’t seem to clean off that stench.
Since you brought up Alex Vega addressing the council in Spanish, why don’t you also post what he said? Or is your Spanish as bad as “Viva La Raza” Pedroza’s?
Vega stood up and requested the council to show more respect more citizens who take the time to attend these meetings and address the council. He reprimanded the Mayor and Council members for their reaction towards Castillo.
When the majority of the audience applauded his speech someone asked for an interpretation. Pedroza who by this time had taken the microphone was not about repeat Vega’s reprimands against his Papi Pulido, he instead blatantly misinterpreted Mr. Vega’s words as “He just said ‘Can’t we all just get along?’”
As a certified Interpreter I am appalled that Mr. Pedroza would stoop to such level just to please Pulido… He not only broke the Interpreters Code of Ethics by not protecting the rights of the Non-Spanish speakers in the audience, he also disrespected Mr. Vega by blatantly misinterpreting his eloquently addressed speech.
ñoño,
Sorry for the late reply. Am out of state at the moment.
If you were at the meeting surely you noticed I was the next speaker, following Mr. Vega. I NEVER use notes when I speak. As such, while he was speaking, I was gathering my thoughts and preparing myself for my three minutes. I heard some of what he said but to be honest I was not paying attention to the extent that you were. I did however hear him excoriate Mr. Castillo and his organization.
I didn’t break any damn interpreter code as I was not there as an interpreter. I was there as a resident for one reason – to speak on item 13C, the removal of Tish Leon from the Parks and Rec Commission.
Lastly, the only one who openly disrespected Mr. Vega was Mr. Grabiel, who rudely accosted him and used the “F” word in the process, screaming at Vega for using Spanish. This was witnessed by several people who were there.
Take your lies elsewhere. They are not welcome here.
Now the council knows how teachers feel I suppose!
You’re back LOL. This whole banning thing reminds me of that scene in Fellini’s Satyricon where…
oh yeah, you wouldn’t have ever seen that movie. Anyone here seen Satyricon?
Nope. Great One remains on my banned list.