UPDATE: The protest was huge, as we called it. Here is how the AP reported it:
Thousands of people from all over the US have marched on the Arizona state capital to protest at the state’s tough new crackdown on illegal immigration.
Marchers carrying signs, banners and flags from the United States and Mexico filled a five-mile stretch of central Phoenix on Saturday. Dozens of police officers lined the route and helicopters hovered overhead.
Police would not estimate the size of the crowd, but it appeared at least 10,000 to 20,000, braved temperatures forecast to reach 95 degrees Fahrenheit by mid-afternoon. Organisers had said they expected the demonstration to bring as many as 50,000 people.
Game on! Mexicans are fighting back in Arizona. The video above invites activists to a rally taking place today, in Arizona. We will post the rally protest videos when they become available.
Video produced by Naui Ocelotl Huitzilopochtli.
Click here to learn more about the protest movement in Arizona.
WHAT A BUNCH OF RACISTS – LOVE THE SIGN THE STOLEN CONTINIENT – IT WAS NOT STOLEN, IT WAS SOLD BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING YOUR GOVERNMENT TODAY!
Naui if you don’t like this county made up of all races go live in Mexico!
Really the more you listen to these nut cases, then more poeple are determined people are to save this country from the same whack jobs that have destroyed thier’s!
Keep marching, its pointless. People are tired of seeing their communites become third world gang holes.
There is nothing racist about wanting Mexico to take care of their own citizens. If Mexico actually educated their children and told people to not have kids they can’t afford and provide health care and livable wages, illegal immigration wouldn’t be a problem. The Mexican government creates refugees because they make a lot of money from it. It’s not the Catholic Church, it’s the government. It’s also not racist to love your fellow American (black, brown, white, yellow, etc.) and be against people coming here illegally. Most people love Mexico and Mexicans. However, I don’t know of anyone that thinks the government is good. Take the fight to Mexico. Fix Mexico and all of this goes away and Americans and Mexicans can live in harmony. I don’t like brown supremacists that run the OJ Blog anymore than I like black or white ones. I think you are all messed up and missing the most important point.
No more racists,
Mexican schools are actually quite good. The problem, as I see it, is rampant poverty. Much of that is due to the monopolitics economy in Mexico and laws that do not protect property rights and that assume you are guilty until proven innocent.
Mexico likely encourages immigration not because of money but rather to avoid civil war.
I am not sure why you brought up the Catholic Church, but they are to blame as well for not allowing their members to use birth control.
This has nothing to do with brown supremacy. I am as white as you. Rather, I am pissed off that Mexicans have become scapegoats here. It isn’t fair. It is a political strategy of hate that is going to doom the GOP.
And our government isn’t exactly perfect either. We routinely start wars that cannot be justified. And here in California our state government has allowed unions to rip us off. The public employee pension crisis was created by politicians! Mexicans had nothing to do with it.
Likewise our recession is also due to bad government – first under Bush now under Obama.
I would argue that we should clean up our own house before accusing other countries of having crappy governments.
This backlash against immigrants IS racist. It is xenophobic. If Mexicans were white, blond and spoke English you would welcome them at the border. This is all about hating short brown people who speak Spanish. I get it. You ought to be honest and recognize the hatred you have embraced.
“This backlash against immigrants IS racist. It is xenophobic.”
Mq says:
Their is a differnce in an Immigrant and an illegal alien!
If Mexicans were white, blond and spoke English you would welcome them at the border.
MQ Says:
IF they were blond and spoke english and were on Welfare, creating a gang problem, producing drop outs, etc….
No, they would not be too popular with the Citizens!
The fact that Mexicans (66%) of all illegal immigrants are brown, has nothing to do with people wanting countrol of their borders. Its the fact that we can not afford such a needy, uneducated population!
YOU DON”T LIKE WHITE PEOPLE ART, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE YOU WOULD BAN THEM FROM YOUR WORLD!
MQ,
I am white. Whiter than you probably.
What I don’t like is a bunch of Euro invaders slamming the people who first settled this continent.
And your assumption that all Mexicans are trouble-makers and criminals. That is simply not true.
That said, if I could ban you racists from the world it would be my pleasure to do so.
You’ve declared the rally “huge” before it even took place. You clearly have a future in journalism.
Rick,
Called it. The AP is reporting that there were ten to twenty thousand protesters. Might be some kind of record actually.
VIVA SB 1079
Well put, Eddie. Tell us what SB 1079 does, again?
It’s SB 1070.
VIVA SB 1070
(And while we’re at it, “Remember the Alamo” too!)
And remember the Maine too, and the Gulf of Tonkin, and Saddam’s WMDs. All wars started on the basis of lies.
And thanks for reminding us that you guys consider this a war on Mexicans.
MQ,
“Their is a differnce in an Immigrant and an illegal alien! ”
LIES!!!!! this is what MQ previously wrote:
“Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much? It’s really not about the legal status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!”
“The fact that Mexicans (66%) of all illegal immigrants are brown, has nothing to do with people wanting countrol of their borders. Its the fact that we can not afford such a needy, uneducated population!”
LIES!!!!!!!!!! Not all of illegal Mexican immgrants are brown……see the xenophobia.
From Wikipedia:
Illegal immigrants arriving in recent years tend to be better educated than those who have been in the country a decade or more. A quarter of all immigrants who have arrived in recent years have at least some college education.
Mexico is home to the largest number of U.S. citizens abroad (estimated at one million as of 1999),[161] which represents 1% of the Mexican population and 25% of all U.S. citizens abroad.
The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007.[2] According to a Pew Hispanic Center report, in 2005, 57% of illegal immigrants were from Mexico;
Projected immigration 2000, 2004 and 2010:
Top Ten Foreign Countries – Foreign Born Population Among U.S. Immigrants
Country #/year 2000 2004 2010 2010, %
Mexico 175,900 7,841,000 8,544,600 9,600,000 23.7%
China 50,900 1,391,000 1,594,600 1,900,000 4.7%
Philippines 47,800 1,222,000 1,413,200 1,700,000 4.2%
India 59,300 1,007,000 1,244,200 1,610,000 4.0%
Vietnam 33,700 863,000 997,800 1,200,000 3.0%
Cuba 14,800 952,000 1,011,200 1,100,000 2.7%
El Salvador 33,500 765,000 899,000 1,100,000 2.7%
Dominican Republic 24,900 692,000 791,600 941,000 2.3%
Canada 24,200 678,000 774,800 920,000 2.3%
Korea 17,900 701,000 772,600 880,000 2.2%
Total Pop. Top 10 498,900 16,112,000 18,747,600 21,741,000 53.7%
Total Foreign Born 940,000 31,100,000 34,860,000 40,500,000 100%
FROM ABOVE: Mexico contributes 23% of all immigrants to the USA. THIS IS EVIDENCE OF ETHNIC DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MEXICANS.
Mexican American
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Mexican Americans are Americans of Mexican descent. They account for more than 12.5% of the United States’ population: 30.7 million Americans listed their ancestry as Mexican as of 2006, forming about 64% of all Hispanics and Latinos in the United States.[2]
Immigrants from the USA to Mexico accounts for 1% of Mexico’s population. Immigrants from Mexico to the USA is 12 % of the USA population.
If Mexico had jobs you can be sure the percentages would be closer. WHAT YOU SAY MQ?
i see the racist went to a z . hope they have their papers . oh and mexico encourges immigration not beacuse of money but civil war . oh im sure good old felipe just loves all the money that is sent back over there . . hope that bus ends up in maricopa.. home of you know who . i say that with a big smile on my face .
the great one,
“hope that bus ends up in maricopa.. home of you know who . i say that with a big smile on my face .”
99.9% of the protesters are legal and most are citizens. What is “you know who” going to do ……violate their right to protest, that is, their first amendment right !!!!!.
Your heroes want to destroy the US constitution. Fabulous work guys.
well dr . their is saying that if you go looking for trouble you will find it . these so called activist are going to go down there hoping to STIR UP TROUBLE . im sure a few of them will get out of hand just to hope someone crosses the line to get them on film and scream RACIST , RACIST , . they are smarter than that . oh i hope you feel the same about the tea parties when they protest too . i know a few on this site that like to take their shot at them too .
Thanks for the reply Art,
Have you looked at Italy? It’s a Catholic country. Italians have a negative birth rate. That is if you only look at Italians. That’s because the government doesn’t encourage unsustainable population growth. Why doesn’t the Mexican government do the same?
Art, yes, you make a good point about your race. I’m guessing you are of Spanish descent? Spain is a European country with a majority of Caucasians. I would have to agree with your statement that you are white. Not that it matters.
The ruling class of Mexico seems to be of Spanish descent. They seem to be very adamant about keeping the poor people poor. I know of many of these family’s that have a superiority complex. They think their Spanish blood somehow makes them better than everyone else.
Now, as far as your statements go. It seems to me that all people should follow immigration laws except brown people ie. Mexicans. Yes, that is a racist view.
Just as you shouldn’t suggest poor people have more kids they can’t afford, you shouldn’t encourage the government to do the same thing. Most third world countries overpopulate. Look at China. They had to resort to encouraging abortions because their population got so out of hand. If you care about the quality of life of Americans regardless of race, I think you would change what you write about and your racist views.
I love Mexicans. I even love Mexico. It’s sad to see you write about sensationalist stuff that doesn’t do anything one way or the other. If everyone shared your view about immigration, the situation would stay the same and Mexico and America will suffer.
There was a time when Mexico wasn’t run by drug cartels. I miss that Mexico. If Mexico was like most other Western countries like Japan, Germany, Canada, etc. the border would not be an issue. It would also help if Americans didn’t buy so many drugs from Mexico. However, blaming America for 30 per cent of the problem means that 70 per cent of the problem will continue to go unnoticed.
Lastly, do you always guess that everyone who reads this is white? Are there no yellow or brown or black readers? I’m guessing there might be a few.
no more racists,
The drug war is our fault. If Americans didn’t take so many drugs, there would be no market for them. Mexico should send us the bill!
Art, can you define “Our Fault” in the context of your use in the post.
(The drug war is our fault.)
If you mean the USA and its people (Our Fault)
Then I say again.
Send in the Marines and make the country of Mexico safe for its citizens just like the USA did for Iraq and is trying to do for Afghanistan. A safe a decent Mexico should be a much higher priority considering the large shared border.
Yep send us (USA) the bill and the Commander and Chief can pay it with US armed forces. AND with a large percent of the USA armed forces being Latino’s , they would be see as freedom fighters and saviors.
I think you’re going a wee bit loopy Dr..
You keep revering to the law as an Anti-immigrants law… I know it a bate and twitch try, but legal immigrants are just that immigrants, illegal legal aliens are illegal Aliens… big dif!
“Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much? It’s really not about the legal status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!”
MQ says:
Where is the lie above… You only need to visit Santa Ana, and hope the population is contained, but illegal immigrants are poring into surround cities… Orange is the next Santa Ana! You only need to go to tustin/wilson to see that!
Doctor, the truth is this countries law can not be broken to board Mexico’s poor and with the amount we are boarding right now they have wreaked havoc on the neighborhoods…
The proof is in the pudding!
Americans are angry because the population coming out of Mexico illegal into this country are very poor and needy and America has enough of its own poor to help!
If you want to take Mexico’s poor start building an Ark!
“If Mexico had jobs you can be sure the percentages would be closer. WHAT YOU SAY MQ?”
MQ says:
Why would Mexico’s ruling class develop jobs for people they would rather see leave to come here….. They don’t want to be concerned with peasants!
Let me make my self clear… 66% of immigrants in this country are hispanic the largest majority of them are from Mexico!
Most of them cannot read or write in their own language, have no money, low-skilled labor. This = Welfare recipients.
PLEASE STOP TURNING THIS INTO A MEXICANS VS WHITES ARGUMENT.
ALSO STOP WITH THE “NO YOU’RE RACIST” ACCUSATIONS, COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.
The biggest problem with this law is it does create HATE against immigrants. It is also in Maricopa County where they have as lot of white supremacist, National Alliance, neo-Nazis, Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, FAIR, and other racist organizations. Members of those organization hold very important offices to include Senator, Sheriff and more. These people abuse there power as it is to give them more control of illegal’s is stupid. I wonder how many people they have killed and gotten by with it. They may be illegal but they are human beings and deserve to be treated as such.
Irvine Reporter,
Clearly the enemy is the GOP, not just whites.
So sad to see the Republican Party destroying itself like this.
Not neccesarily, but there are many Republicans who have very strong feelings concerning illegal immigration, and the figureheads are intent on satisfying them.
Irvine Reporter,
Indeed. It will be the undoing of the GOP. Their leaders must be unable to fathom what is going to happen as their voters get older and Latinos have more kids.
I am happy to say that my own kids are all growing up with a Libertarian point of view.
Art Pedroza’s racist and ignorant views in a nutshell…
Anyone that is against illegal immigration is white and racist and hates Mexicans or brown people.
Anyone that reads this blog is automatically white.
Americans are racist but no other nationality is.
If 20 million people from China, 20 million people from India, or 20 million people from Germany came here illegally that would be a problem and a sign something is wrong with their government. However, if 20 million people come here illegally from Mexico it’s ok.
Sad thing is, most people love other people. You would never know it by reading Art Pedroza articles. When the Berlin wall fell, lots of West Germans were worried that East Germans would create problems for their economy. They had legitimate concerns. East Germany at the time was quite poor and backwards because of a very horrible government. It’s a good thing Art wasn’t there at the time because he’d be writing about how it’s all about racism. That just goes to show you how silly some people are.
Luckily, most Americans love other people from all walks of life. Racist and ignorant views still belong to the minority.
Take time to love one another right now.
no more racist,
It is a common conceit of many Republicans that there is no more racism. That is simply not true.
However if you want to belong to a party that abhors racism I encourage you to become a Libertarian.
You can talk about love all you want, but the laws recently passed in Arizona and Costa Mesa are about one thing – hate.
the great one,
“oh i hope you feel the same about the tea parties when they protest too . ”
You have never read me protesting their right to protest. I have always encouraged you to state your opinion here.
MQ,
“Doctor, the truth is this countries law can not be broken to board Mexico’s poor and with the amount we are boarding right now they have wreaked havoc on the neighborhoods…”
You only need to get your racist head out of the hole in the ground to notice other Mexican communities.
La Jolla in San diego County is largely Mexican. The average income is over $100,000/year. With none of the social issues Sana Ana has . Santa Ana has a large Poor Mexican community. Do you get the economic relationship?
I doubt you will pay attention as this contradicts your propaganda of:
“Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much? It’s really not about the legal status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!”
“Let me make my self clear… 66% of immigrants in this country are hispanic the largest majority of them are from Mexico!
Most of them cannot read or write in their own language, have no money, low-skilled labor. This = Welfare recipients.”
A LIE. All available data show illegal Mexican immigrants produce more than they consume.
From Wikipedia:
Illegal immigrants arriving in recent years tend to be better educated than those who have been in the country a decade or more. A quarter of all immigrants who have arrived in recent years have at least some college education.
MQ,
“You keep revering to the law as an Anti-immigrants law…”
Give examples were I have stated this. I have said SB1070 violates human and civil rights.
DON’T BE A LIAR.
no more racists,
“Anyone that is against illegal immigration is white and racist and hates Mexicans or brown people.”
No one I have read on this blog is in favor of illegal immigration. Those like me argue for immigration reform which is not in favor of illegal immigration.
The argument is that many that argue against illegal immigration (many on this blog) advocate violating human rights of illegal residents and violating human and civil rights of legal residents.
Others argue aganst illegal immigrantion with racist views. see below:
MQ wrote,
” Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much? It’s really not about the legal status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!”
“Just as you shouldn’t suggest poor people have more kids they can’t afford, you shouldn’t encourage the government to do the same thing. Most third world countries overpopulate. ”
The USA with low birth rates has strategized to bring in this population to increase the birth rate necessary to strengthen the economy and to support the aging USA population.
The USA has decided to do this with Mexicans because they are near.
Britain, France and other European countries with similar issues of domestic low birth rates have recruited large Middle Eastern immigrants to elevate their birth rates to strengthen their economies and to support their aging population because Middle Eastern immigrants are near to them.
China and India for example have large young populations . No need to recruit immigrants. True they discourage births. When their youth ages and no births are present to support their economy and to support their aging population then you will do what the USA, France and Britain are doing.
WHY THE ANGER? YOU ARE BEIGN PROVIDED FOR.
@MQ you state,
with respect to Mexicans you say, “Most of them cannot read or write in their own language, have no money, low-skilled labor. This = Welfare recipients.”
My Response:
What has Mexico done with respect to SPENDING on EDUCATION?
Mexico spends 5.5% of GDP VS US spends 5.3% of GDP (2005)
Mexico ranks 49 in the world and the US ranks 57 in level of expenditures (percent wise and not absolute dollars) for education (a lower number is better)
LITERACY of Total Population: Definition: age 15 and over can read and write
Mexico 91% vs 99% US
(above from CIA Factbook comparisons of US and Mexico.)
your way off again zorro . illegal immigration is going to help the g.op . the people are sick and tierd of giving illegals free handouts that the dems . and dems on a recent poll 55% favor the law . with 90% saying enough = i guess they are all racist too .
the great one,
Keep dreaming. The GOP is running a delusional campaign related to illegal immigration.
It is a campaign based on lies in order to demonize a population for political manipulation.
Does anyone get the fact that hispanic activist THINK if they keep using the words: HATE, BIGOT, RACIST… that these POWERFUL words will somehow void the truth!
“Give examples were I have stated this. I have said SB1070 violates human and civil rights.”
MQ Says:
What HUMAN RIGHT? The right to be given a free pass because your from the South of the Border?
What about the rights of the AZ people to live a safe life, or what a about the legal immigrants who have waited for at least 5 years to get their green card, what about them?
The only right illegal Aliens have in this country is a swift and easy process of deportation.
You demand and bitch all you want the truth is people are tired of illegal immigration and the fact is they want it stopped!
As far as education in Mexico is concerned it is an excellent education, if you can PAY for it!
Poor people in Mexico are not educated…Period.
ASKED UCI HABLA program!
MQ,
Please – you are the last one who should be harping about not being educated! Did you even finish high school?
ok who is pulling who on here doc the only reason the dems want them is . they are the party of handouts , freebies , and want their votes . because they will vote dem . so who is playing politics . . oh and now we have a new one you are now delusional if you want to enforce the law .. you guys are so out there .
the great one,
The majority of my Mexican friends are Republicans as I am.
“oh and now we have a new one you are now delusional if you want to enforce the law .. you guys are so out there ”
You are delusional if you think we think this argument with you and your supporters is all about enforcing illegal immigrationlaws.
MQ,
“Does anyone get the fact that hispanic activist THINK if they keep using the words: HATE, BIGOT, RACIST… that these POWERFUL words will somehow void the truth!”
THIS IS THE TRUTH:
No one I have read on this blog is in favor of illegal immigration. Those like me argue for immigration reform which is not in favor of illegal immigration.
The argument is that many that argue against illegal immigration (many on this blog) advocate violating human rights of illegal residents and violating human and civil rights of legal residents.
Others argue aganst illegal immigrantion with racist views. see below:
MQ wrote,
” Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much? It’s really not about the legal status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!”
Art just confirms what I thought was correct.
If 20 million poor and uneducated Europeans abused our immigration laws and Arizona did something to stop it, that would be ok right? At least in Art Pedroza’s racist view of the world it would be.
Or maybe he would just cry because he wouldn’t have a race card to pull. He wouldn’t be able to incite riots and hate and make people think all of America hates Mexicans.
Those laws were set to provide a certain amount of population sustainability and economic sustainability. That were not genetically specific. We don’t want America to be like China or Mexico or other countries that aren’t able to take care of their own citizens.
Notice how Art doesn’t write articles about how to make Mexico better which is really the root of the problem. He just calls everyone a racist or a nazi and calls it a day.
Sorry Art, I don’t hate Mexicans like you wish all Americans did. You should be ashamed of all of the hate and prejudice you are spreading.
I’d rather see less hurtful name calling on both sides. 95 per cent of illegal immigrants are awesome and, except for breaking the law to come here, are generally good law abiding family people. I’d say the same goes for Americans and most people of the world. We need fewer blogs spewing hateful words about people who have differing opinions about the number of people and immigrants that a country can sustain.
No more racists,
If you truly want no more racism I suggest you stop supporting the haters who support SB 1070.
Dr… Latinos are a race!
I don’t know why you keep getting mixed up with that one…
The reason Mexicans/central American ( illegal immigrants from South of the border) are not welcome in neighborhoods has nothing to do with their skin color, it is just a fact that they bring crime, gangs, drugs, etc. to neighborhoods…
We all wish it was a different story but it is not, even Silverado Canyon is starting to get and influx of Mexican Gang members from Orange, the same type that raped and beat up two young girls and their boyfriends a couple of years ago!
People only know what they see and I point out the obvious!
Yes, there are neighbors that have up and coming hispanic families and They pray too that illegal Immigrants are not moving in next door!
You work in Santa Ana, but moved to OPA… Now why is that?
It’s is good for the goose, but not for the gander!
There are good people in all populations, but it is a fact that the hispanic population from south of the border have become a burden on this society. The people in AZ know this very well!
The AZ law will go through and other states will follow, we can’t allow the schools to get any worse, jails to become even more crowded and welfare to drain this countries working class!
This country cannot be allowed to become a lawless country such as Mexico!
What you are Doc, is just a hypocrite!
Art,
Yes, I did finish High School, and took my less than stellar education and I am trying to stop Elitists, ethnocentric, social justice nuts from doing what happen in my country….. The poor can be controlled and manipulated, and this is very beneficial to many!
Don’t underestimate the uneducated, because an education is only an asset, it does not make the man!
I may not be as educated as some, but what i do pocess is: passion, confidence, self-reliance, determination, and BALL’s
I think I would rather have all the above, than a masters degree in ethnic studies any day!
After all I am your underserved, vulnerable and needy or does that only apply to YOUR race and YOUR culture!
I guess so!
“Clearly the enemy is the GOP, not just whites”.
MQ says:
I do not know how I missed this lovely little bit of RACISM!
Whether you like it or not the majority of this country is WHITE and the fact that the Majority is joining with different American minorities to stop hordes of people coming into this county who are causing all sorts of problems as well and being a form of cheap labor for unscrupulous companies… Does not conclude Racism!
Stating the Enemy is GOP, “not just WHITES’, would certainly be viewed as a RACIST statement!
I Don’t know if you’re just pissed off right now, but you do sound very much like a racist!
Once again, Mr. Pedroza again confirms his prejudice. Silly me for thinking this blog had integrity.
MQ,
THIS IS THE TRUTH:
No one I have read on this blog is in favor of illegal immigration. Those like me argue for immigration reform which is not in favor of illegal immigration.
The argument is that many that argue against illegal immigration (many on this blog) advocate violating human rights of illegal residents and violating human and civil rights of legal residents.
Others argue aganst illegal immigrantion with racist views. see below:
MQ wrote,
” Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much? It’s really not about the legal status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!”
All available data show illegal Mexican immigrants produce more than they consume.
From Wikipedia:
Illegal immigrants arriving in recent years tend to be better educated than those who have been in the country a decade or more. A quarter of all immigrants who have arrived in recent years have at least some college education.
where?
yes the hordes of people that are being round up in the dessert are doctors , lawyers , and are real educated NOT . i agree with michell , and no more racist . pedroza is a reconqista and has lost his mind . oh yeah we are all racist now in his mind because we support the bill
the great one,
“yes the hordes of people that are being round up in the dessert are doctors , lawyers , and are real educated NOT . i agree with michell , and no more racist . pedroza is a reconqista and has lost his mind . oh yeah we are all racist now in his mind because we support the bill”
You are racists if you support the bill for this reason:
MQ wrote,
” Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much? It’s really not about the legal status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!”
“yes the hordes of people that are being round up in the dessert are doctors , lawyers , and are real educated NOT . ”
Read the following carefully :
All available data show illegal Mexican immigrants produce more than they consume.
From Wikipedia:
Illegal immigrants arriving in recent years tend to be better educated than those who have been in the country a decade or more. A quarter of all immigrants who have arrived in recent years have at least some college education.
Maybe we need to bring Wikipedia to a local Welfare office!
Because the only thing I see illegal immigrants producing are children!
Keep up the propaganda Doc, one only needs to walk down a street in Santa Ana to see who is full of crap!
It’s not me!
MQ,
“Because the only thing I see illegal immigrants producing are children!
Keep up the propaganda Doc, one only needs to walk down a street in Santa Ana to see who is full of crap!
It’s not me!
”
The USA with low birth rates has strategized to bring in this population to increase the birth rate necessary to strengthen the economy and to support the aging USA population.
The USA has decided to do this with Mexicans because they are near.
Britain, France and other European countries with similar issues of domestic low birth rates have recruited large Middle Eastern immigrants to elevate their birth rates to strengthen their economies and to support their aging population because Middle Eastern immigrants are near to them.
China and India for example have large young populations . No need to recruit immigrants. True they discourage births. When their youth ages and no births are present to support their economy and to support their aging population then you will do what the USA, France and Britain are doing.
WHY THE ANGER? YOU ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR.
no i am not racist because i support the bill . i think your racist doc if you dont support the bill . so there we can go back and forth all day . the bill is just like the fed law but not as strong i wonder how you would react if the feds had a all out raid in az . because by their law they dont need a reason to pull you over if they think your illegal they can come up to you for no reason and demand papers and then WHAT WOULD YOU SAY . BUT since the feds refuse to do this a.z is doing something about it and me and THE OTHER 80 % PERCENT OF THE USA SUPPORT THIS LAW .
The USA with low birth rates has strategized to bring in this population to increase the birth rate necessary to strengthen the economy and to support the aging USA population.
MQ says:
Dr… Social security will go bankrupt in about 5 years, it is not going to be around for either of us or beyond… It like Medicare is not sustainable!
The poor cannot put enough into social security to save it!
I am never angry with people who are passionate about something and I know that you are passionate about this…. You are just WRONG!
I know that I am right! Not only have I been saving hard for my retirement, I already have started my children’s retirement plan!
“Britain, France and other European countries with similar issues of domestic low birth rates have recruited large Middle Eastern immigrants to elevate their birth rates to strengthen their economies and to support their aging population because Middle Eastern immigrants are near to them.”
MQ says:
That is working out well!
Stupid, Stupid:)
the great one,
“no i am not racist because i support the bill ”
It is not what I said. This is what I said:
You are racists if you support the bill for this reason:
MQ wrote,
” Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much? It’s really not about the legal status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!”
The Arizona bill is not the same as the Fed. Law.
Over 65% of the USA supports Immigration reform that includes amnesty. How do you interpret this seeminly contradiction.
” i think your racist doc if you dont support the bill . ”
How is not supporting the bill racist?
MQ,
“Dr… Social security will go bankrupt in about 5 years, it is not going to be around for either of us or beyond… It like Medicare is not sustainable!
The poor cannot put enough into social security to save it!
I am never angry with people who are passionate about something and I know that you are passionate about this…. You are just WRONG!
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How am I wrong? I did not implement this. It is our government’s plan as it is the plan of France and Britain.
You are barking up the wrong tree.
USA should be for European-Whites only. All others need to voluntarily leave or be deported to their land of origin using the new laws we shall pass. Immigration from any other nation except Western European countries should be totally halted. Vote for the White people’s party, the Tea Party. Arizona is a good start; it will help Arizonians send a clear message. We are tired of these minorities dirtying up our land and polluting our nation and white culture.