It’s a Mt. Rushmore of hate! Pictured: Joe Arpaio, Barbara Coe and Bill Hunt (Picture courtesy of the OC Weekly)
Are you wondering what happened yesterday at Republican candidate for O.C. Sheriff Bill Hunt’s reception? As we disclosed earlier last week, Hunt invited notorious Mexican hating Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio to be his keynote speaker. And the O.C. haters showed up in droves!
Red County blogger Allan Bartlett, who is also an OC GOP Central Committe member, wrote about the event over at his own blog. Bartlett, like most Republicans, appears to be clueless about how offensive these people are – and his own coverage teeters into hater talk too. Here are a few excerpts:
So I’m pulling into the parking lot before the event and sure enough there are lots of protesters and media outside the Phoenix Club. It looked mostly like La Raza types and local spanish media. They were all speaking spanish over the bullhorn. I still will never understand that. We speak English in America guys.
Bill Hunt was next to speak, but before he spoke, he was given about a ten minute introduction by Tim Whitacre for all the viewing audience at home online. The event was streamed live on Bill’s website. Tim gave everyone who doesn’t know Bill the cliff notes version of Bill’s life the last six years. So Bill got up and spoke for about fifteen minutes. His best line of the night really hit home….
Next up was Arpaio, and our friends at the OC Weekly provided his “best” 18 lines. Here are just a few of them:
1) “I apologize for the protesters outside. They go wherever I go, If you know a good Mexican restaurant, go and tell them where it is. I know in Phoenix I can’t go to a Mexican restaurant. When I walk in, most of the workers run out the back door or spit in my food.”
5) [Looking around for Hunt while talking about the candidate] “Where’s Bill? Is he trying to get votes outside? I hope he speaks Spanish.”
6) “We got Army tents from New Mexico. We made a midnight requisition. We set them up at a waste disposal plant. A half million people have gone through the tents. We only put the convicted people there. The 8,000 innocent people are in jail.”
8) [After being informed Bill Campbell was the member of the Orange County Board of Supervisors who’d recently visited his tents] “Why isn’t he here? I’m here. Your sheriff [Sandra Hutchens] did not come. A captain did. I told the captain, ‘Why are you here? Where is the sheriff?’ He said, ‘I dunno.'”
13) “I spent 25 years in drug enforcement. I’m one of the people who knows what a border is. Most politicians wouldn’t know where to find it.”
14) “Nine [federal] attorneys came after me, investigated me, because I enforce all of the laws. Sad, very sad. So I kicked them all out. I gave the FBI director pink underwear. They got very quiet.”
15) “These guys outside have signs of me with Hitler, Nazis. They brought some of their signs. They hold them in front of my office in Maricopa County. I could pay them to do it every day. I had Al Sharpton come out [to protest]. I raised a lot of money from that. I should have paid for a first-class ticket for him.”
16) “I’ve been sheriff for five terms. . . . I could be governor, but I don’t want to be governor. I want to be sheriff. I get more press in one day than the governor does. And, two: I can lock up the governor.”
17) “I’ve stopped human smugglers heading for California. You people should thank me. Why doesn’t The Terminator call?”
18) “If they don’t like me, don’t insult the uniform. That’s what they do: insult the uniform. One thing they know is I’m elected, they can’t get rid of me. That’s why I’m running again. I have a book titled America’s Toughest Sheriff. My next one is going to be America’s Oldest Sheriff.”
Click here to read the rest of the OC Weekly’s article.
Anti Joe Arpaio protesters (Picture Courtesy of the O.C. Register)
Even the O.C. Register’s coverage noted what a scumbag Arpaio is:
Self-proclaimed “America’s Toughest Sheriff” Joe Arpaio of Arizona brought some unusual baggage Thursday to Orange County.
In town to bless the campaign of sheriff’s candidate Bi ll Hunt, Arpaio was dogged by reports that he was being investigated by the FBI for engaging in vendettas against political enemies.
The O.C. Register also noted that about 50 protesters showed up to the event. So did CCIR founder Barbara Coe, who is perhaps the Queen of the O.C. haters.
“We’re going to put (Hunt) in the chair,” gushed illegal immigration activist Barbara Coe, as she flung her arms around Arpaio.
I remember Bill from when he came to a DFA meeting – yes, he actually came to a Howard Dean, left wing, Democracy For America meeting to get support for his insurgent candidacy against the corrupt Carona. We liked him too, at least in comparison to Carona. Good thing he didn’t succeed back then, imagine what a monster he could be by now.
Sherrif Hutchens is fine by me!
I thought it was really funny!
A bunch of foreginers, speaking a foreginers lanuage, calling Americans racist for enforcing American laws.
I did not get to go, but i will be a fund raiser for Mr. Hunt.
As far as kids having kids in Santa Ana, it is on the increase, because of the welfare and services that they can receive. I blame the local government for this problem, because they do not discourage it they promote it!
They were all speaking spanish over the bullhorn. I still will never understand that. We speak English in America guys. Continue reading OC’s top Mexican haters showed up for Bill Hunt’s reception.
If you cant understand why they speak Spanish, instead of English, then i will tell you. It is their way of saying F#$% Y&*. Hispanic Activist,s are causing more harm to illegal immigrants than Barabra Coe is! Mexicans are becoming the opposition in the minds of the American people. A population that is a real problem in communitties. I am sure their is alot of hate, anger, and bitterness at the fact that foregin hispanics have brought alot of crime, low preforming schools and socical problems ie.. underage and single mothers into American communitties. But really Can ya blame, Americans?
This photo is pure gold. I hope Hutchens camp will be smart enough to use it in mailers to Latino voters.
A comment on the OC Weekly got it right, Bill Hunt is the next Bull Connor.
Yeah, we all could not wait to read the fair and balance new’s form the OCR and OCW.
Bunch of stupid wankers!
And the reason Bill Campbell was not there, is because illegal immigrants make him and alot of other scumbags rich!
The problem that Bill is going to be up aganist, will be that the Orange County supervisors are not going to vote for a guy, who will enforce the law’s, they want a puppet!
michell take a bow . i love it these people screaming in spanish and expect the majorty of the public to understand what they are saying . i will put this in a pedroza like statement but in other terms . the american hating hispanics protesting in the lanuage they want us to speak were outside demanding that they do not enforce the law . wanting free health care , drivers lincense , and amnesty for all on your tax payer dollar .
Michelle and Greatone, I love it almost as much as the senior housemember of the minority (GOP) party did’nt know the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the constitution.
I was a believer in 2005 and still am today. Yes, it will have taken five years to fumigate the Sheriff’s office of the Carona stench. Another hurdle is politely showing the door to our interim Sheriff. Our community is just not the right fit for her. Sheriff Hutchens was not selected by the voting citizens of Orange County. It would not have taken rocket science for the County Board of Supervisors to have placed Bill Hunt as Sheriff in the wake of Carona.
There is a fresh crowd of enthusiastic Hunt supporters today. When Tim Whittaker introduced Bill Hunt to speak last evening he provided a little bit of Hunt 101 and background. Hunt did not decide to be a candidate for Sheriff on a recent whim. This grass roots effort by Hunt has not been without personal struggle to serve. His deserving behavior has clearly labeled him as “the People’s choice.”
I’m so thankful to Tim W. for all he has done to help our country and county. Tim is helping Mr. Hunt because he wants our County to prosper. God Bless America and Mr. Whitacre.
This is getting interesting —–
The State shall not discriminate against, or grant
preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of
race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of
public employment, public education, or public contracting.
(b) This section shall apply only to action taken after the
section’s effective date.
480 schools were given 3 billion dollars for class size reduction, all of the schools had a majority of hispanics. Schools in Santa Ana did not suffer many of the cuts to programs, other school district had to endure. There were no school closures in SAUSD also the district received a grant this year from the CDE for a free meal program to every child in Santa Ana schools whether they qualified for free meals or not. It was the only school district to receive the grant. Most schools that have a majority of hispanic receive: free daycare, after care ect….
I would say, the above is unconstitutional. But i am sure the Dean of UCI law school and his dream team would say it is not, because it is Social justice!
I think i know a bit about the American constitution. The GOP and DEMS are a bunch of idiots distroying the very foundation of this country, which is, “The Constitution”.
It is not a living, breathing document, it is the foundation, that has made this country great. The constitution will save this country from, racical poltical correct maddness!
“Why won’t Mexican parents teach their daughters to not spread their legs for every Juan, Dick, and Harry who comes along?”
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Family value dude, I wish you’d stop talking about Juan’s dick and focus more on the issue. Fat chance of that though.
On the other hand, Art, Sean and others, you seem to avoid answering the simple question of enforcement. Why is enforcing the law makes one a racist?
Lam,
simple, they avoid commenting on the truth, because you cannot debate the truth!
Lam Pho,
I’d be willing to bet you have a much different take when it comes to those immigrants coming from Vietnam.
Michelle,
Or perhaps Friday night is our family night and I was busy?
As to Lam’s question, have you both forgotten who signed off on our last Amnesty? That’s right – Reagan. He knew the truth.
The truth is that this continent was not empty when the Euros arrived. They proceeded to kill twenty million natives, via disease and bullets. They enslaved the rest, or drove them off their land.
Today we have the temerity to tell the descendants of these wronged people that they cannot come here?
And don’t tell me that they need to do so legally. It is almost impossible to come here legally. Why else do folks pay coyotes to bring them here?
We cannot right so many historical wrongs but another Amnesty would be a step in the right direction.
As for enforcing the border, I never hear about our northern border. Why is that?
Let’s be honest – Republicans are RACISTS. They hate brown people who speak other languages. So they don’t worry about the north because Canadians are generally white – and most of them speak English.
Why you expect our arbitrary borders to matter to these immigrants is puzzling. This land was theirs – and your Euro ancestors stole it.
And Lam, it is ridiculous for Viets to complain about this when they were given a FREE ride to come here. And why? Because after thousands of us died to protect them – and after we gave them military training and weapons, they were unable to defend themselves. What a crock. Why is it OK for them to come here while you malign Mexicans? Ridiculous.
And why do you think Supervisor Janet Nguyen opened an office in Westminster? It turns out our Viets love American handouts…and many of them make ample use of taxpayer provided benefits.
Dear Art,
There is an article in the O.C. Register Local section today entitled, “Public Servants enjoy rich Benefits”. They profile a council member from Laguna Hills but say they are going to request similar information from all O.C. cities. Finally, someone is going to “crack the code” and expose these local politicians. When she does request the information I hope she also looks at all boards and commissions most council members sit on in addition to the council. I have a good friend who is on the council of a large O.C. city and I can tell you that some are making LOTS of money and have many perks and other benefits. Other boards where they can make more money are the OCTA Board, Sanitation board, Toll Road Board, Water Boards, and many, many more. Some get medical insurance from the councils and other boards. Most travel around the U.S. and some travel abroad. When they do travel with these boards (Check out the budget for a League of Cities Conference in Washington D.C. or other U.S. cities) they eat in the finest restaurants (They say the Lobsters run scared when the elected officials arrive in Washington and New York) and go to shows and live a life style that many could never afford apart from politics. Lobbyists will also often pick up the tab for the dinners and shows. It would be fun to profile several council members total take home for a period of years and I can assure you that readers will be shocked. It’s not just large cities(although Anaheim and Santa Ana are the worst) either. In Lake Forest for example you have council members who have been on there forever, are big time League of Cities guys and sit on many boards and they clean up in the world of benefits and stipends. You will also find that some of the biggest rah rah Republican stop Government waste guys are the some of the worst offenders. Don’t expect Red County to report on this either.
Art, a strong immigration policy by the natives might have saved them from the illegal whites. That is what happens when you cannot secure your borders. Anyone who helps expose Nativo Lopez is a hero. Shouting out obscenities in Spanish will cause a backlash as did telling us in 1994 to “wake up and smell the beans” and all the marchers with Mexican flags protesting prop 187 back then. Illegals chanting that they are here and are going to stay is just asking for a fight. Step up your game.
face it reps are racist . no art is racist towards anyone who thinks we should deport these people . when you have nothing.. like art always use the race card . only a true racist uses that and we see here on this site when it comes to that subject .
# 18,
I saw a t-shirt the other day that depicted a group of armed natives with the slogan “fighting terrorism since 1492.”. Funny but true!
But today’s immigrants are not a conquering force. They are people just like us who want to succeed and provide for their loved ones.
As for the protesters, I always advise them to use English and not to carry flags of other countries. That is common sense.
Below is the history of one immrigarnt group of the many that make up the human fabric of the USA.
No one group is better than the other in experience colonizing this country. In fact we are are all the same.
Some, based on hate and prejudices, ignore their ancestor’s similarities with current immigrants legal or not.
The point is how they were perceived and persecuted for seeking a better life not unlike the subject group of this discussion.
Division within communities is a political tool to manipulate. That is what the Hunt event was about , pure and simple.
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At the beginning of the 19th century the dominant industry of Ireland was agriculture. Large areas of this land was under the control of landowners living in England. Much of this land was rented to small farmers who, because of a lack of capital, farmed with antiquated implements and used backward methods.
The average wage for farm labourers in Ireland was eight pence a day. This was only a fifth of what could be obtained in the United States and those without land began to seriously consider emigrating to the New World.
In 1816 around 6,000 Irish people sailed for America. Within two years this figure had doubled. Early arrivals were recruited to build canals. In 1818 over 3,000 Irish labourers were employed on the Erie Canal. By 1826 around 5,000 were working on four separate canal projects. One journalist commented: “There are several kinds of power working at the fabric of the republic – water-power, steam-power and Irish-power. The last works hardest of all.”
In October 1845 a serious blight began among the Irish potatoes, ruining about three-quarters of the country’s crop. This was a disaster as over four million people in Ireland depended on the potato as their chief food. The blight returned in 1846 and over the next year an estimated 350,000 people died of starvation and an outbreak of typhus that ravaged a weaken population. Despite good potato crops over the next four years, people continued to die and in 1851 the Census Commissioners estimated that nearly a million people had died during the Irish Famine. The British administration and absentee landlords were blamed for this catastrophe by the Irish people.
The Irish Famine stimulated a desire to emigrate. The figures for this period show a dramatic increase in Irish people arriving in the United States: 92,484 in 1846, 196,224 in 1847, 173,744 in 1848, 204,771 in 1849, and 206,041 in 1850. By the end of 1854 nearly two million people – about a quarter of the population – had emigrated to the United States in ten years.
A census carried out in 1850 revealed that there were 961,719 people in the United States that had been born in Ireland. At this time they mainly lived in New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Illinois, Ohio and New Jersey. The Irish Emigrant Society tried to persuade immigrants to move to the interior but the vast majority were poverty-stricken and had no money for transport or to buy land. They therefore tended to settle close to the port where they disembarked.
Thousands of Irish labourers worked on building the railroads in the United States. Some were able to save enough money to buy land and establish themselves as farmers along the routes they had helped to develop. This was especially true of Illinois and by 1860 there were 87,000 Irish people living in this state.
Other Irish immigrants became coalminers in Pennsylvania. Working conditions in the mines were appalling with no safety requirements, no official inspections and no proper ventilation. When workers were victimized for trade union activity, they formed a secret society called the Molly Maguires. Named after an anti-landlord organization in Ireland, the group attempted to intimidate mine-owners and their supporters. The group was not broken-up until 1875 when James McParland, a Pinkerton detective and Irish imigrant, infiltrated the organization and his evidence resulted in the execution of twenty of its members.
The Irish tended to support the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. They had little sympathy for slaves as they feared that if they were given their freedom they would move north and threaten the jobs being done by Irish immigrants. One leading Irish-American politician, John Mitchel, wrote in his newspaper, The Citizen in 1856: “He would be a bad Irishman who voted for principles which jeopardized the present freedom of a nation of white men, for the vague forlorn hope of elevating blacks to a level for which it is at least problematical whether God and nature ever intended them.”
However, on the outbreak of the Civil War general an estimated 170,000 men born in Ireland joined the Union Army, whereas only 40,000 were in the Confederate Army. One Irish immigrant, Thomas Meagher, became a highly successful general in the war.
After the Civil War some cities in the United States such as New York, Chicago and Boston, over a quarter of the population had been born in Ireland. It was now possible Irish voters were able to get their candidates elected to power. Irish mayors such as Richard Croker of New York and James Curley in Boston were accused of corruption by investigative journalists such as Ray Stannard Baker and Lincoln Steffens.
However, as the historian Carl Wittke has pointed out: “Reformers have often overlooked the fact that the same political boss who bought votes, stuffed ballot boxes, and brazenly perpetuated naturalization frauds was also the warmhearted leader who got the immigrant his pushcart license, “fixed” arrests for petty violations of the law with the police and the judge, and sent the poor their Christmas turkeys and coal in winter, paid their rent when the landlord threatened eviction, and sent flowers to their funerals.”
Several Irish settlers became successful businessmen. Michael Cudahy started a highly profitable meat-packing business in Milwaukee, John Downey made a fortune in real estate as well as being governor of California (1861-62) and William Grace ran a steamship company before becoming mayor of New York City (1880-88). Second-generation businessmen included James Phelan (banking) and mayor of San Francisco (1896-1902), Thomas Ryan (financier), Franklin Gowen (railroads and coalmines), John Francis Fitzgerald (investment banker) and mayor of Boston (1906-08, 1910-14) and Patrick Joseph Kennedy (wine and spirit importater).
In 1890 there were large numbers of Irish born immigrants in the states of New York (483,000), Massachusetts (260,000), Illinois (124,000) and Minnesota (28,000). There were also significant communities in New York City (190,000), Chicago (70,000), Baltimore (13,000) and the textile town of Lawrence (8,000).
During the period 1820 and 1920 over 4,400,000 people emigrated from Ireland to the United States. Only Germany (5,500,000) and Italy (4,190,000) came anywhere near these figures. In 1840 Ireland had been the most densely populated country in Europe. By the 20th century this situation had been completely reversed.
An investigation carried out in 1978 revealled that since 1820 over 4,723,000 people emigrated to the United States from Ireland. This amounted to 9.7 per cent of the total foreign immigration during this period.
Irish immigrants arriving in the United States in 1902.
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(1) A farmer from Ulster who settled in Missouri wrote to a Belfast newspaper in 1821 comparing life in Ireland and the United States.
In Ulster I could go to a fair, or a wake, or a dance, or I could spend the winter nights in a neighbour’s house cracking jokes by the turf fire. If I had there but a sore head I would have a neighbour within every hundred yards of me that would run to see me. But here everyone can get so much land, and generally has so much, that they calls them neighbours that lives two or three miles off. I would sit down and cry and curse him that made me leave home.
(2) In 1849 a Health Committee investigated a cholera epidemic in Boston. The committee reported that the disease had badly affected the Irish population in the city.
The average age of Irish life in Boston does not exceed fourteen years. In Broad Street and all the surrounding neighbourhood, including Fort Hill and the adjacent streets, the situation of the Irish is particularly wretched. During their visits last summer, your committee were witnesses of scenes too painful to be forgotten, and yet too disgusting to be related here. It is sufficient to say, that the whole district is a perfect hive of human beings, without comforts and mostly without common necessaries; in many cases, huddled together like brutes, without regard to sex, or age, or sense of decency: grown men and women sleeping together in the same apartment, and sometimes wife and husband, brothers and sisters all in the same bed.
(3) In 1850 an Irish settler who had been living in Wisconsin for twelve months wrote a letter to The Times in London (14th May, 1850)
I am exceedingly well pleased at coming to this land of plenty. On arrival I purchased 120 acres of land at $5 an acre. You must bear in mind that I have purchased the land out, and it is to me and mine an “estate for ever”, without a landlord, an agent or tax-gatherer to trouble me. I would advise all my friends to quit Ireland – the country most dear to me; as long as they remain in it they will be in bondage and misery.
What you labour for is sweetened by contentment and happiness; there is no failure in the potato crop, and you can grow every crop you wish, without manuring the land during life. You need not mind feeding pigs, but let them intothe woods and they will feed themselves, until you want to make bacon of them.
I shudder when I think that starvation prevails to such an extent in poor Ireland. After supplying the entire population of America, there would still be as much corn and provisions left us would supply the world, for there is no limit to cultivation or end to land. Here the meanest labourer has beef and mutton, with bread, bacon, tea, coffee, sugar and even pies, the whole year round – every day here is as good as Christmas day in Ireland.
(4) Gustav Unonius , A Pioneer in Northwest America: 1841-1858, (1861)
Often we had found notices nailed to some tree close to the public road announcing such meetings, and had had private invitations to attend them, especially from zealous partisans of the Democratic Party apparently eager to convert us to their political faith. Notwithstanding these solicitations, we had not as yet even applied for United States citizenship. This would not have prevented us, though, from taking pan in various communal affairs and from voting in the local elections. But we did not consider ourselves well-enough informed in these matters to be willing to take active part in them. Who were to become justices of the peace, road inspectors, constables, tax collectors, and so forth, did not much concern us. We were protected as to person and property and felt fully satisfied with our government, or, rather, we hardly noticed that we had any.
Foreigners are generally inclined to engage in political disputes long before they know what things are all about, and the rashness with which they make use of a citizenship they have gained all too soon is without question harmful to the country.
The American republic will no doubt sooner or later find it necessary to change its naturalization laws. The Germans and especially the Irish have hardly had time to get a roof over their heads before they begin to busy themselves with political affairs of all kinds, become eager partisans, get their hands into everything, and cause no end of trouble and disorder – all of which could be avoided if Americans were left to govern the country alone.
Accustomed perhaps to being of little or no importance before, in a more liberal social order they feel all-important, and the spirit of opposition that led them to political radicalism at home now induces them to oppose almost everything proposed by sane and wise Americans for the good of the country. Many a time I have heard Germans who hardly understood the simplest English sentences say, “We are not going to let the Americans rule over us.” Their false conception of liberty and citizenship and that of the Irish gave me an absolute distaste for all politics, and neither then nor later did I meddle with it except in questions where my duty bade me appear quietly and calmly at the ballot box.
I love the democratic social order where the majesty of the people really is a majesty before which a man can stand with the same veneration, yes, with even more, than before a royal throne; and I believe that the American people, left to themselves, will one day reveal that majesty to the world.
(5) Alice Hamilton, Exploring the Dangerous Trades (1943)
Another happening which is stamped on my memory concerns a young Irish girl of sixteen, gentle and shy, with the natural good breeding which one finds often among the poorest Irish and which makes one believe that they are right in saying that theirs was an old civilization when we Anglo-Saxons were still savages. Celia was a waitress in an all-night restaurant, for at that time a girl might work twelve hours a night seven nights a week in Illinois. for her protection I had her join the waitresses’ union, and when her place went on strike she took her turn picketing. Chicago police have never felt it part of their duty to observe the law toward strikers; violence, often needless and unprovoked, had been the rule. I felt personally responsible for Celia and made my way through the crowd outside the restaurant just in time to see her dragged along, unresisting, by a huge policeman and hustled with abusive words into a police van.
(6) John Dewey, The School as Social Centre (1902)
It is said that one ward in the city of Chicago has forty different languages represented in it. It is a well-known fact that some of the largest Irish, German, and Bohemian cities in the world are located in America, not in their own countries. The power of the public schools to assimilate different races to our own institutions, through the education given to the younger generation, is doubtless one of the most remarkable exhibitions of vitality that the world has ever seen.
But, after all, it leaves the older generation still untouched; and the assimilation of the younger can hardly be complete or certain as long as the homes of the parents remain comparatively unaffected. Indeed, wise observers in both New York and Chicago have recently sounded a note of alarm. They have called attention to the fact that in some respects the children are too rapidly, I will not say Americanized, but too rapidly de-nationalized. They lose the positive and conservative value of their own native traditions, their own native music, art, and literature. They do not get complete initiation into the customs of their new country, and so are frequently left floating and unstable between the two. They even learn to despise the dress, bearing, habits, language, and beliefs of their parents – many of which have more substance and worth than the superficial putting-on of the newly adopted habits.
One of the chief motives in the development of the new labour museum at Hull House has been to show the younger generation something of the skill and art and historic meaning in the industrial habits of the older generations – modes of spinning, weaving, metal working, etc., discarded in this country because there was no place for them in our industrial system. Many a child has awakened to an appreciation of admirable qualities hitherto unknown in his father or mother for whom he had begun to entertain a contempt. Many an association of local history and past national glory has been awakened to quicken and enrich the life of the family.
What we want is to see the school, every public school, doing something of the same sort of work that is now done by Hull House Settlement. It is a place where ideas and beliefs may be exchanged, not merely in the arena of formal discussion – for argument alone breeds misunderstanding and fixes prejudice – but in ways where ideas are incarnated in human form and clothed with the winning grace of personal life. Classes for study may be numerous, but all are regarded as modes of bringing people together, of doing away with barriers of caste, or class, or race, or type of experience that keep people from real communion with each other.
(7) Studs Terkel interviewed Bill Bailey for his book, The Good War (1985)
My family came from Ireland and I was born in the slums of Jersey. Went to school up to fourth grade. When I was making my communion, the nuns sent my mother a letter: “This boy is not going to make it unless he has a pair of shoes and a little suit of clothes” My mother said, “If you want him to wear shoes and a little suit of clothes, buy it for him. We haven’t enough food to feed him, let alone shoes. He’s going to make his communion if I have to bring him up to the altar naked. The Good Lord ran around with a potato sack wrapped around his ass, and if it’s good enough for him, it’s good enough for anyone else.” Two days before communion, they bought the shoes and suit.
I’d go for days and days eating bread with salt on it or lard. The greatest thing I remember about wintertime, you’d reach out on the fire escape and pull in some snow, put condensed milk on it, and you had great ice cream. When you come from that type of setup, you start questioning every goddamn thing.
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You guys are blind. Hunt WANTS the pro-illegal immigration activists against him. Like Arpaio said he would give Sharpton airfair, Hunt would probably absolutely love the fact that you guys continue to bash him on the issue. It’s the credibility you guys give him that will allow the republicans (a vast majority) to bowl over the democrats (e.g Hutchens) in the next election. Great job!
Fact Check,
Your facts are wrong. Hutchens is a Republican.
Is she Art? My bad. I heard somewhere she has been a democrat for the last 10 years and I know she has upset the gun people. I also heard she has some big democrat money people. If she is a repub then she is about as republican as Dierdre Scozzafava. So it doesn’t matter. She should get the Dem vote.
The truth is that this continent was not empty when the Euros arrived. They proceeded to kill twenty million natives, via disease and bullets. They enslaved the rest, or drove them off their land.
Million’s of Irish Men, Women, children starved to death, because the British took the main source of food, the potato. But it is the past, not a very nice past, but the past. One of the reason’s i left Ireland, was the fact that i was sick and tried of people constantly living in the past, and not looking to the future. This world has had a very dark past, but i look only to the future. Today Mexico with all its resources and wealthy, do not educate their people, because they send the uneducated here. If there is going to be a future in Mexico, they need to build it, not rely on their neighbour for it, like an entitlement.
And Lam, it is ridiculous for Viets to complain about this when they were given a FREE ride to come here. And why? Because after thousands of us died to protect them – and after we gave them military training and weapons, they were unable to defend themselves. What a crock. Why is it OK for them to come here while you malign Mexicans? Ridiculous.
Are you kidding me? I have no beef with the viets, because i am not paying for them or their kids in huge numbers. And i think Lam feels the same. If Santa Ana was full of viets/Irish, both lam and i would be saying the same thing. You are all about your race and their needs. What about the needs of everyday working people of all colours to not be taxed to death to cover jail, healthcare, education of your culture. This is about the burdern of hispanics not the colour of them!
Dr.L,
Thankyou for the great post’s about Irish immigrants and how hard they have had to work.
And at no point in any of your post’s from Irish immigrants did you hear them demand an education, healthcare or welfare. The difference with Irish, Italian, ect… immigrants of the past is that they made it or did not. Work ethic not welfare supported my people and other immigrants of the past.
Race is not the issue that concerns people about illegal immigrants from Mexico and other third world latin countries. The concern is social decay, horrible educational preformance and welfare use. These three problems have become a huge burden on the working class American.
Race is your issue Art, Dr.l, Sean, not mine and I think i speak for lam as well!
Pedroza, like Gustavo Arellano, is WILFULLY ignorant. That’s different than just being ignorant which we all are about some things, sometimes.
Bill Hunt will be the Sheriff for ALL people – as he’s supposed to be. When you call him for help, he’s not going to ask if you’re Black, White, Male, Female, Democrat, Republican, Barbara Coe or Arellano supporter etc. He will treat everyone respectfully and fairly and enforce the law the same way.
There were literally hundreds of pictures taken that night yet Pedroza and Arellano select this one to crow about and frame Hunt’s entire campaign around. LOL!
Newsflash, La Raza Soldados: There were more Hispanics inside the building in the 300+ crowd then there were outside and they weren’t even bussed in – they PAID to come hear Arpaio speak! ROFLMAO!!!
…A minor fact you and your fellow biased La Raza buddy, Tony Saavedra at the OC Register, managed to omit – and Saavedra was allowed inside the event…
Holy crap Michelle. You read that whole thing? But ya know it really pisses me off that race even enters the picture. Race is not the issue. Illegal immigration is. There will be at some point real reform for the hard working,tax paying, english speaking illegals just waiting for a program for legal residency and as it should be. The welfare queens should also be given the chance. The problem will be for them is that they will not go with the program after every opportunity and that will be their ticket to deportation.
As usual Michelle you purposely ignore the message that is not in line with your agenda.
Self preservation is an instinct embedded in DNA, all living organisms have it. The history of immigration to America legal or not is about the instinct of self preservation. Prejudices by past arrivals towards recent arrivals is part of history to the present.
The more contact a native-born American has with immigrants, typically the more positive view of immigrants one has.[73] The less contact a native-born American has with immigrants, the more likely one would have a negative view of immigrants.[73]
Benjamin Franklin opposed German immigration, stating that they would not assimilate into the culture.[74] Irish immigration was opposed in the 1850s by the Nativist/Know Nothing movement, originating in New York in 1843. It was engendered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by Irish Catholic immigrants. In 1891, a lynch mob stormed a local jail and hanged several Italians following the acquittal of several Sicilian immigrants alleged to be involved in the murder of New Orleans police chief David Hennessy. The Congress passed the Emergency Quota Act in 1921, followed by the Immigration Act of 1924. The Immigration Act of 1924 was aimed at further restricting the Southern and Eastern Europeans who had begun to enter the country in large numbers beginning in the 1890s. Systematic bias against Japanese and German immigrants emerged during and after World War II. Irish and Jewish immigrants were popular targets early in the 20th century and most recently immigrants from Latin American countries are often viewed with hostility. Some Americans have not completely adjusted to the largely non-European immigration and racism does occur. After September 11, many Middle Eastern immigrants and those perceived to be of Middle Eastern origins were targets of hate crimes.
“And at no point in any of your post’s from Irish immigrants did you hear them demand an education, healthcare or welfare. The difference with Irish, Italian, ect… immigrants of the past is that they made it or did not. Work ethic not welfare supported my people and other immigrants of the past.”
Public social services were not available in the point in history cited above. If they were the Irish immigrants most certainly would of used them. USA immigrants and natives, not undocumented because the law prohibits it, of all races and nationalities currently use social services now because they are available.
“Race is not the issue that concerns people about illegal immigrants from Mexico and other third world latin countries. The concern is social decay, horrible educational preformance and welfare use. These three problems have become a huge burden on the working class American.”
It is a race issue with you Michelle because you constantly ignore facts that contradict you belief above. Many disagree with your ignorant beliefs. Please read below:
At the June 13, 1998, Commencement Address at Portland State University, president Bill Clinton said, “new immigrants are good for America. They are revitalizing our cities…building our new economy…strengthening our ties to the global economy, just as earlier waves of immigrants settled on the new frontier and powered the Industrial Revolution. They are energizing our culture and broadening our vision of the world. They are renewing our most basic values and reminding us all of what it truly means to be an American.” [12]
Opinions vary about the economic effects of immigration. Those who find that immigrants produce a negative effect on the U.S. economy often focus on the difference between taxes paid and government services received and wage-lowering effects among low-skilled native workers,[49][50] while those who find positive economics effects focus on added productivity and lower costs to consumers for certain goods and services.[51] In a late 1980s study, economists themselves overwhelmingly viewed immigration, including illegal immigration, as a positive for the economy.[52] According to James Smith, a senior economist at Santa Monica-based RAND Corporation and lead author of the United States National Research Council’s study “The New Americans: Economic, Demographic, and Fiscal Effects of Immigration”, immigrants contribute as much as $10 billion to the U.S. economy each year.[53] The NRC report found that although immigrants, especially those from Latin America, were a net cost in terms of taxes paid versus social services received, overall immigration was a net economic gain due to an increase in pay for higher-skilled workers, lower prices for goods and services produced by immigrant labor, and more efficiency and lower wages for some owners of capital. The report also notes that although immigrant workers compete with domestic workers for some low skilled jobs, some immigrants specialize in activities that otherwise would not exist in an area, and thus are performing services that otherwise would not exist, and thus can be beneficial to all domestic residents[54] About 21 million immigrants, or about 15 percent of the labor force, hold jobs in the United States. However, the number of unemployed is only seven million, meaning that immigrant workers are not taking jobs from domestic workers. Rather, they are doing jobs that would not have existed had the immigrant workers not been in the United States[55]. U.S. Census Bureau’s Survey of Business Owners: Hispanic-Owned Firms: 2002 indicated that the number of Hispanic-owned businesses in the United States grew to nearly 1.6 million in 2002. Those Hispanic-owned businesses generated about $222 billion in revenue.[56] The report notes that the burden of poor immigrants is not born equally among states, and is most heavy in California.[57] Another claim that those supporting current and expanded immigration levels is that immigrants mostly do jobs Americans don’t want. A 2006 Pew Hispanic Center report added evidence to support that claim when they found that increasing immigration levels have not hurt employment prospects for American workers.[58]
In 2009, a study by the Cato Institute, a free market think tank, found that legalization of low-skilled illegal resident workers in the US would result in a net increase in US GDP of $180 billion over ten years.[59]
Jason Riley notes that because of progressive income taxation, in which the top 1% of earners pay 37% of federal income taxes, 60% of Americans collect more in government services than they pay in. Thus, it is not remarkable that some immigrants would do the same.[60] In any event, the typical immigrant and his children will pay a net $80,000 more in their lifetimes than they collect in government services, according to the NAS.[61]
The Kauffman Foundation’s index of entrepreneurial activity is nearly 40% higher for immigrants than for natives.[62] Immigrants were involved in the founding of many prominent American high-tech companies, such as Google, Yahoo, Sun Microsystems, and eBay.[63]
On the poor end of the spectrum, the “New Americans” report found that low-skill low wage immigration does not, on aggregate, lower the wages of most domestic workers. The report also addresses the question of if immigration affects black Americans differently from the population in general: “While some have suspected that blacks suffer disproportionately from the inflow of low-skilled immigrants, none of the available evidence suggests that they have been particularly hard-hit on a national level. Some have lost their jobs, especially in places where immigrants are concentrated. But the majority of blacks live elsewhere, and their economic fortunes are tied to other factors.”[64]
If you have not noticed, using race is like a weapon. Americans have been brain washed to believe that their race is what has given them the edge. But really what allows people to suceed is: hard work, moral and ethical values. Advocates can’t use any benifits of illegal immigrantion from latin American, mostly Mexico, because their has been none. Latin illegal immigrantion, especially to this state has brought crime, low preforming schools, gangs, welfare use and corruption with tax payer money. The truth is that this state has 35% of all welfare users, because this state has the largest majority of Mexican illegal immigrants.
Race is just a distraction from the truth. This country is becoming a socical justice nightmare.
Michelle,
Respectful groups noted have done the studies posted that showed the benefits.
These studies blow your agenda talking points out of the water.
The truth is that you are a irresponsible hate monger presenting your personal opinions as facts in order to incite hatred.
Illegal immigration arguments do not involve race. When race is noted by your critics it is to point out that because you ignore facts a perception of you as a bigot is formed. You associate undocumented Hispanics with social problems as a genetic trait. See below:
“Latin illegal immigrantion, especially to this state has brought crime, low preforming schools, gangs, welfare use and corruption with tax payer money. The truth is that this state has 35% of all welfare users, because this state has the largest majority of Mexican illegal immigrants.”
You argument of social problems should not be about Latins as all Latin immigrants legal or not are not associated with the social problems you mention.
The social problems you mention are a condition of poverty. All poor immigrant groups in immigration history to America are similar in this regard.
Do you believe poverty is a gene in the DNA of Hispanics? Is that why you ignored post #28?
You argument of social problems should not be about Latins as all Latin immigrants legal or not are not associated with the social problems you mention.
really Doc?
I can not debate with a man that refuses to see the truth!
And being poor does not = stupity. One of the poorest people on this earth are from India, the smartest people on this earth are from India!
the smartest people in the world are from India? Then how come they cant make change for my squishy at the quick i mart?
Maybe they are not thinking about the change, but the fact a grown man just ask for and bought a Squishy:)
Most overseas jobs are going to india, because not only is it cheap labor, but skilled labor.
Michelle,
“I can not debate with a man that refuses to see the truth!”
The truth is that you are a irresponsible hate monger presenting your personal opinions as facts in order to incite hatred.
“And being poor does not = stupity. One of the poorest people on this earth are from India, the smartest people on this earth are from India!”
In may cases Michelle = stupidity, like in this comment.
Really Dr.
And you are a man that has benifited from the fact that you are brown (affirmative action) in a country obsessed with trying to right the wrongs of the past, which allows men like yourself to get entitlements based on your colour and not on merit.
Everything i have in this world, i got by being honest, hardworking and resourceful. I would never even think of using my gender to get ahead.
And being poor does not = stupity. One of the poorest people on this earth are from India, the smartest people on this earth are from India!”
What is stupid about stating a fact. India has a highly skilled work force!
Now now Doc, dont be a bigot!
The only thing i hate in this world is people who take advantage of other’s, and have no problem doing so! People with a tribel mentality, like yourself, just have not advanced enough to see the people of this world as equal and should be treated as such. In this country, all men/women have a chance to do well. If you don’t do well in this country, its because you did not try hard enough! Maybe people from India are not the smartest people, but they have a great work ethic, and the passion to suceed.
Michelle,
Blah,blah blah. Same tired nonsense.
I think Bill Sheriff is the best Sheriff there could be right now.
To whom it may concern. I am mentioned in your article as someone who streamed an event known as James S. If there is anyway you can remove me off this article it would be greatly appreciated. I am also a pastor so I can’t have any negative press. I am half South American so I have no connection in being a racist person. Please remove the name James S off the article. I also wish to say I no longer have any affiliation with person known as Bill Hunt. Thanks for your time and I hope you can help out. God Bless!
Free the name James Sugra from this article RIGHT NOW! He proclaims liberty and sets the captive free named ((Matt Cunningham)). He decrees peace friendship unity and love. He does not hate, To hate someone is evil and he is a christian pastor. Believe in Jesus with all your heart soul and mind. Peace Maker!
I’m not up on my white supremacy iconography, but with those parenthesis are you trying to tell us that Matt Cunningham is Jewish? Weird.