Did the SAPD have to shoot Susie Young Kim?
(Picture Courtesy of the O.C. Register)
“The parents of a woman shot and killed by a Santa Ana police officer after a high-speed pursuit in April have filed a claim for damages against Santa Ana, the Santa Ana Police Department and the shooting officer, claiming wrongful death,” according to the O.C. Register.
Susie Young Kim, 37, was shot and killed just after 1 a.m. April 10 at 17th Street and Grand Avenue near a Food 4 Less supermarket in Santa Ana after a 30-minute pursuit through Buena Park, Anaheim, Fullerton and Santa Ana.
Did the SAPD have a good reason to shoot Kim? Her attorney says the angles of the bullet holes are all wrong. He claims that the cop that shot her had to have been on the side of her car, not in front of it.
We still don’t know why Kim fled the Buena Park police who tried to pull her over, or why she ended up in Santa Ana.
But I do wonder why they shot her. Couldn’t they have deployed nail strips or used a car to stop her? Why shoot her? If indeed a cop on foot was in harm’s way – why the Hell was he standing there? Why would he try to stop a speeding car on foot?
And why didn’t anyone see the baby in her car? Apparently the Buena Park police did advise that the baby was in the car.
Santa Ana is broke. Imagine if we have to pay out $20 million to Kim’s family because of this shooting?
The Orange County D.A. is investigating. Good luck with that. Santa Ana Councilwoman Claudia Alvarez is a Deputy D.A. You think she might run interference on this one?
She ran from the Police and deserved to get shot. Especially in densely a populated city like Santa Ana where many other could have been hurt or killed by her actions. There are illegal aliens crawling all over Santa Ana 24/7. Imagine if the Oriental chick killed one or more of your hommies who can do no wrong, Art; you would be outraged!
I’m glad she got blown away. Maybe others will think twice before racing through our city.
#1,
I never celebrate needless death. This is a tragedy and it will cost us big. What a waste…
WELL WE DONT KNOW ALL THE FACTS SO LETS WAIT N SEE BUT TWO THINGS STAND OUT AGAINST HER 1 . 1AM NOTHING GOOD HAPPENS AT THAT TIME . ALSO SHE RAN FROM THE POLICE . BUT I AGREE IF THIS WAS A ILLEGAL THAT GOT KILLED ART WOULD BE ALL OVER IT .
Have no fear Art. The D.A. takes care of its own.
Case in point: The Sheriff Lt. D.U.I. arrest a few months ago. Despite the fact she crashed a police car and had a blood alcohol of nearly double the legal limit, she pled no contest. Her punishment was the minimum sentence of school, $390 and 3 years probation. The sentence for her high blood alcohol content was suspended. (BTW it just happened to be one 100th of 1% below what would have caused enhanced penalties. Probably why they waited two hours before taking her blood test.) She had no lawyer of record so she had legal advice and saved all those pesky lawyer fees too.
Before this shooting lawsuit is done, the DA will find a way to protect this cop. It’s OC tradition.
I am the only one who is pushing this issue in Santa Ana Mr. Pedroza while you care about legality of some stupid horses.
Please notice that according to the article the investigation is not over and COPs were not cleared of anything. That makes Mr. Mill liar as he published lie in prior articles.
Shame on you Pedroaza that you publish liars.
I hope that my letter to Obama will bring FBI to rein in SAPD13.
Shame on you all that you romanticizing SAPD13.
The COPs in SAPD13 are bunch of could blooded killers because non of them condemned this killing. That includes Chief Walters and deputy Chief Harelson and Magnificent Seven Mexicans.
I am sure that if the same would happened in Iran Red would be all over it.
If the city will be find liable, I will personally sue Pulido and foreclose on his hacienda to reimburse the city.
——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Stanley Fiala is asking: “Should we foreclose on Mayor Pulido’s Hacienda?”
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:30:13 -0700
From: Standa
To: Walters, Paul
CC: Pulido, Miguel , Harrelson, Anthony , Bustamante, Carlos , Alvarez, Claudia , Benavides, David , Tinajero, Sal , Sarmiento, Vincent , Martinez, Michele
References:
Dear Chief,
Should Susie Young Kim’s family prevail in the $20M suit, it would far exceed all Santa Ana Taggers’ vandalism damages to the city since its incorporation.
As I have stated in my prior email, I thought that you would made excellent sheriff.
However, after killing of Susie Young Kim and your inability to publicly condemn this execution stile murder by your SAPD13 gangsters, I have realized that, I maybe gravely wrong.
To be a Sheriff one must be tough and fair alpha male whose subordinates can’t get away with a murder.
Unless you stand tall and publicly condemn actions of your out of line gangsters in uniform you will be for ever remembered as Police Chief with out of control department regardless of what good you have done for the city in the past.
[Sarcasm ON] Maybe you should put these water bra on as Carlos suggested to show your true gender.[Sarcasm OFF]
Furthermore, I believe that the city should foreclose on Mayor Pulido’s Hacienda to partially reimburse itself for damages he caused to city by his puny leadership.
Respectfully submitted
-Stan
The only person responsible for the death of Susie Young Kim is Susie Young Kim herself.
She put herself in harms way and endangered the lives of police personnel as well as the community at large.
The court should throw this lawsuit out and bill the family for the time they have wasted.
In fact perhaps the family should be billed for the bullets used and all the officers time wasted because of Kim’s wreckless actions.
As far as Fiala’s crazy rants go, just remember that he is still angry over the SAPD arresting him for spousal and child abuse. Charges that he was found guilty of.
Unfortunately, I cannot truly respond to your anger driven crapola because your amigo Pdrroza would not print it.
However, it is irrelevant what your sick brain thinks or what the court or jury will do, there are higher moral principles by which we rule.
The SAPD13 is racketeering enterprise and Walters will soon fade into a sunset as a coward unless he adheres to higher moral principles.
As for you Mill, you have lied here so you are a liar and who ever takes you seriously is a fool.
Hey cuckoos nest! Show me where I have lied.
You and your fellow “crackpot coalition” member, “junior”, like to call me a liar.
However neither one of you mentally challenged yayhoos can cite a single lie told on my behalf.
And Stanislav it is you with the anger issues as I am sure your wife and child can attest to, not to mention the folks overseeing your court ordered anger management therapy.
Mill, you stated: “The shooting was justified and it was ruled as such by all responsible parties investigating it.”
See http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/07/santa-ana-resident-attacked-by-taggers-at-2-am/#comment-93106
The today’s OC Register article clearly states that the investigation is not over.
Sean,
Fiala is nuts, but one does have to wonder how this poor lady ended up in such dire straits?
The truth shall come out eventually. Until then we can but surmise what would drive a woman to flee with her child at 1 in the morning.
Did her husband beat her? Was she mentally impaired? Did she lose all hope and elect to die by police suicide?
No woman in her right mind would expose her baby to such violence.
Her death is a tragedy and soon enough perhaps we will know why she did what she did.
Good job SAPD,
You will surely pay for your heartless comment. Do you believe in Karma? You’d better because it will come knock on your door soon. Good bye.
In response to your headline question… “no”.
I think Santa Ana needs to sue the cities of Buena Park, Anaheim, and Fullerton- for failing to efficiently handle the situation.
Need to take a proactive and offensive approach to this situation.
Santa Ana needs to retain some kick a_ _ real attorneys to get the job done.
Forget whether or not the city will be out 20 mil or not–this thing can go on forever.
Let’s think $$$ let’s sue these neighboring cities for endangering Santa Ana residents.
As for the officer that pulled the trigger
-did Susie’s car have tinted windows??
well it should have by the following morning-
Santa Ana needs to sue everyone involved – even Susie’s vehicle insurance co.- for damages to City Property.
Buena Park, Anaheim, and Fullerton PAY UP.
Your P.D’s inefficiency broke the peace in Santa Ana, and endangered the lives of many.
They could have used many a tactical procedure before letting this escalate to its tragic end.
-As mentioned above-nail strip or that fancy maneuver with a patrol car- whatever its called!
As for Susie’s family- they need to sue these cities as well.
If my suggestions are carried through- Santa Ana shall establish leadership in this legal battle and prevail with more than 20 mil.
BUSINESS!!!!
Stan –
why are you emailing those harassing remarks?
and then you post them here… I guess you are proud of your— days off your meds.
Now why would the Chief come out and rant nonsense without a thorough investigation.
Now what’s with the “Magnificent Seven Mexicans” comment. Fiala you wish you were Mexican!
Killing is not the answer to those that have done this to the young lady. The way of thinking of these police is not to serve, but to rule over the public. As they think, we are the problem, and they are the solution. So kill us, and run as out of town, and do anything against the law, as they can get away with it. Any one ever hear the words, Thou Shall Not Kill! Or Love your Enemies, or even Love your Neighbor. Where has our Country gone, and where will it end. Killing a person because of the law, as though the law justifies this over God himself. We have become a very sad country, and those that kill will answer to God himself on that day of time. Santa Ana has this idea of doing what they want, and making laws to fill there pay checks, and we here have no rights to vote on it as a majority. Well, it does not matter that she did not pull over, and scared of the police she was, and who knows what crimes the police had alread done to her from the past. We need to pray for this country, and pray before the country says by the law we can not. As this country feels we perhaps should not. However, God says, when I am for you, who can be against you. So pray for America, and all that live here, and serve this country, before we lose it as Americans.
I grew up with this family. Respectable, professionals, good hearted, caring, loveing, giving, the best neighbors and nobody deserves this. Yes, Susy had h er ups and downs, but hell, who doesn’t. SHe had already crashed the car, then they shot. IT seems as if this police dept. is trigger happy. I have family in various police/sherrif depts. and right away, they said it most likely was a female officer and that SA. is “known” for shootings. THey knew that baby was int he car. Santa Ana needs new politicians and a new police chief.
I knew the deceased woman on a personal level and I certainly agree that she endagered her child’s life, and others. However, even a simplistic logical examination of this case will be mind boggling, at its findings:The fact that (po) fired several rounds with child in the car is absurd. Therefore, both the officer and deceased endagered lifes. Only that this time the coward with the weapon had the advantage. Im sure his/hers life will never be the same, just like her family’s.
I truly believe that this trigger happy idiot, probably ex-military(infantry)was given the green-light by his superiors,based on his weapon’s handling expertise gained through military. “Trigger happy”, “Minute men” in uniform probably bullied as a child and continues to project that anger onto others whom are/were helpless like him/her, as a child.
I have the utmost respect for law, it’s the idiots who uphold it that continue to make Citizens On Patrol (COP’s) look bad. Remember our government is manufactured by “the people” for “the people” meaning, occurrences like such can and will enrange “the people”. Continue on this PD’s and you will have to declare Marshall Law. Better yet, a civil war.