One of our readers has been trying to post comments of late ripping me, even when those comments are irrelevant to the post in question.
And he wonders why I keep deleting his posts.
Another reader likes to use a plethora of anon names to give the impression that a dozen people are saying the same thing when it is really just one guy.
He too wonders what is up.
And yet another reader likes to clog up our spam box with comments laden with expletives. Then he too wonders why we won’t approve his filthy comments.
So are these guys blog trolls?
According to the Urban Dictionary, a blog troll is “A depraved individual who sits in front of a computer all day and posts flames of an idiotic or pseudo-intellectual nature on public forums and private websites. Many of these people actually become emotional about what is said on the afore-said mediums and feel it is their duty to punish those who disagree with them. They too may pursue this object in an obsessive-compulsive manner.”
I am not inclined to provide a forum to people who want to rip me and my fellow bloggers gratuitously. If that is their goal let them start their own blog. Nor am I given to approving crazed comments that have nothing to do with the posts in question. If a blog troll has an axe to grind, let him do so elsewhere.
So if you want to come on here and call me, for example, a racist on every single post I write, guess what? You are a blog troll and I am deleting your comments. And if you want to hijack every single post we put up to rip Sean Mill, guess what? I will put you in our spam folder.
And if you insist on using a half dozen different anon names at the same time, you will be banned.
If that is not to your liking, please feel free to visit another blog. We will not let the trolls take over this one.
I agree 100%. These folks should start their own blogs or go visit the other local blogs to rip us and spout their venom.
Perhaps they choose to stay here because we actually have a readership. Those other local blogs are a ghost town.
Whatever happened to Sunny D?
I would have thought with two blogging “legends” like Gallegos and Gordon they would be the kings of the blogosphere by now.
One word: Pravda.
I am proud to be a blog troll.
junior
SMIZFE
#2,
Free speech is one thing – being a blog troll is quite another.
We won’t let blog trolls ruin this blog, period.
junior,
All I can say is you work hard at it and you have mastered it.
For someone who was never going to come back to this blog you sure spend a whole lot of time here.
I would have thought a self-proclaimed “community leader” such as yourself would spend most of their day saving Santa Ana.
However you just “troll” around here posting garbage nobody cares to read.
irrelevant to the post i anwsered the question to your constant ripping of g.o p .i ripped you for your views . not once did i use any cuss words . so much for your we always let people express their views on here . B.S . like i said before if you post this or not at least you will read it . i belive you are a racist . a race baiter and i belive you have more people that disagree with you than agree you . you call people haters and racist if they have a different point of view on subjects . and use the race card on everything .
#6,
One could say the same for you.
Stick to the point or your posts will be deleted.
Hey Mike or do you prefer “junior” or one of the many other names you post under?
I know you love you using cute little initials like “FOAD” or your new favorite “SMIZE”. That’s so clever. No wonder you fancy yourself as a self-proclaimed “community leader”.
I have a set of initials that I think you should really look into, P.T.E.D.
They stand for “post traumatic embitterment disorder”.
You appear to have a textbook case of this mental illness. Watching as your symptoms get worse with each passing day has those of us that care about you worried.
The hatred will consume you and destroy you. It already is.
See a doctor soon and tell him that you may be suffering from P.T.E.D.
Do it today. Do it for yourself. Do it for your family. Do it for the blogosphere.
God bless and good luck with surviving P.T.E.D.
Art: I say let people say racist, inane things. But sock puppets like “junior,” the coward who can’t bring himself to use his own name now that his homophobic, Mater Dei-apologist nature is out in the blogosphere for all to see? Block them until they man up.
Gustavo,
Believe me, we let most stuff post here. But the ridiculous attacks on me and Sean don’t add anything to the conversation.
This great one character keeps comparing me to Al Sharpton – a race hustler who makes money “defending” his own.
I speak up for Latinos – in a county where so few do that. That does not make me a paid hustler like Sharpton.
art first thank you . but i do stick to points when i disagree with often . i have never cussed on here because i know that rule . the reason i compared you to sharpton is that he does the same thing you do . now i know you dont get paid . but he is a race baiter AND IN MY THOUGHTS i belive you do that . now just like sharpton who does not speak for all blacks , you dont speak for all latinos . now i am shocked that you posted this on here . but i will give you credit for at least not taking it off .
Art,
First freedom of speech is not freedom of speech, if you delete post’s that offend you!
I do really like this site and I think all the people that post and blog their view’s are intellengent and well meaning people.
I do think that some people like sean, and Junior do not like each other much, so both their post’s reflect that, but i really don’t think it is wrong for people to air their aguments on this blog, infact i think it is wonderful to see two people having an honest banter. Its enjoyable and it is fresh!
Since when does few people speak up for latina’s, In Orange County alone, i have found over 200, groups,non-profits,activist’s that speak only about latina’s as if the rest of us do not exist. In all cities of Orange County schools are closing except Sana Ana, please explain to me, why that is?? Or shall i explain to you why it is:
“Non-English speakers make the district more money than English speakers”,Latina’s have alot of support for the wrong reason’s.
I don’t think you are a bad man Art, but i do think your race is as a priorty over all other’s.
Thankyou Art, for allowing me to voice my views without censoring them.
Michelle,
You are most welcome.
I guess it appears that race is a top priority but honestly my priority is to defend Latinos when they are scapegoated.
In the local blogosphere there really are few such defenders involved in this effort. I would count Gustavo and myself and that’s about it.
On this very blog in fact I am one of only two Latino bloggers.
There are plenty of voices on the other side, indeed Red County is chock full of Latino bashers.
At the same time, you know that I always hold my own to account as well. No one has ripped Jose Solorio, Miguel Pulido, and Carlos Bustamante etc. as much as I have.
That is why I find these racist charges to be ridiculous. I do rip my own, often. What I won’t tolerate is Latinos being scapegoated by folks who simply do not know better. I will continue to represent the unrepresented.
Art,
I believe that the unrepresented in this country have become the American people. I will represent the American people of all races, not just one!
Again Art, this is not Mexico and the American (this mean’s all races and creeds) people should not have the burden of the people of a corrupt nation. It only allow’s the corrupt nation to continue being corrupt. If you really want to defend the scapegoated, then become active in stopping the Mexican governement from using its people as its scapegoat!
Thankyou Art:)
And the reason, latina’s are not more active on these blogs, is because the are english speaking blogs, they like the segregtion of their own race with latina media,radio,blogs.
There are lots of latina speaking out there,except they are speaking as a culture and not as a community of all races and cultures.
Michelle,
I am a white male and at no time do I feel as if I am not represented.
I never feel like I have to worry about being pulled over by the police for “driving while white”.
I never have store personnel follow me around as if I were going to steal because I was “white”.
I have never had a women pull her purse in closer and tighter when I got into an elevator because I was “white”.
I have never had my citizenship questioned simply because I was “white”.
I have never been denied entrance to a club or told that there are no more reservations at a restaurant because I was “white”.
No, in America, being “white” ain’t so bad.
This fallacy that “white” folks got it so bad continues to be perpetuated by folks such as yourself.
I guess you’d prefer that things would go back to the “good ol’ days”.
Well let me tell you things weren’t so good for blacks, Latino’s, gays or women in them days.
Forgive them if they seek equal footing now.
Toothless old troll —–> me too
michell good points . do you have a private email i can send you something that i dont want to post on here .
Its not bad for you Mr.Hill because you use the fact that your white to attack other whites and use the fact your our white to misguild peole who are not white.
This country is a country that allows all races and greeds to meet their potentical, just ask any black or hispanic or white that is successful.
You remind me of the polticals in Ireland that spouted off the victim mentialtiy crap, that allowed many of my friends to see themselves as nothing but victims instead of viablie human beings.
I would love to see the opinions of police officers regarding your statement that you think all police officers are racist. even black and hispanic officers. I think they would tell you that they pull people over and arrest people for violation’s.
If they are targeting people just because of their race, then what type of ticket are they going to give them “not acting white”??
I can not believe you sit in public office. I am sorry Mr. Mill, but you are a bit of a head case!
I dont know how old you are, but i think you need a reality check regarding race relation,s 2009.
Art,
Its a pity that the dynamic duo of Thomas Gordon and Phil becerra have to resot to trollism. but what ae you going to do? They obvioulsy dont have the guts to represent themselves and their views becaus people would finally realize who and what they ae.
case in point, do you remmeber when Phil had Chris prevatt post that crass picture of Aloha with the carlos Bustamante ass kicking for food sign? Chris prevatt was fooled into posting that atthe bhst of Phil becerra who did that on bhal of Thomas Gordon.
These two have an alliance with the usual suspecs junior, stroud, etc. but they can never come out of the shadows to let themsleves be seen in the light. Kind of like cockaroaches dont you think?
Ms. Quinn,
Almost every comment you have posted on this blog has racist undertones to them.
I am quite comfortable in my grasp of “race” today. I have always been comfortable with it.
It is you that portrays themself as some sort of victim. Poor Michelle having to deal with this “Brown menace” that she has concocted in her head.
It is white folks like you that you that give the rest of us a bad name. You like to claim you don’t have a racist bone in your body, but your frequent pontifications give the world a good look into your real feelings.
I wouldn’t have a teaching job (in the past) if it weren’t for the hispanics in santa ana (the nicest people that I know). They are the most generous group of people who have accepted me into their family once I have taught their children. I may not have a job right now due to the budget or the sausd mismanagement, but that will change eventually (my number is low to get rehired back) not worried at all. Now illegals are a different story (they are wonderful folks, too) I’m sure, but we can’t afford to house them right now. If things change financially (sure) let them all in…they will contribute to our economy. I chose to work in santa ana for reason…the people (not for the district that’s for sure). Hispanics are the most appreciative (unspoiled) group of kids who are loving. I have taught in all white schools (Montana) …the kids are brats and very spoiled (unappreciative). This is the place for me. By the way….illegals come in all colors/races….so this is not about race…right now it is about money (what we can afford). But then again, if you allow them in…the district would have to rehire me so it could be a win/win situation for me (but not for CA taxpayers).
Sorry for all the misspelled words, its hard to type while breast feeding.
And Ms. Quinn please show me where I said “all police officers are racist”.
I agree with you jill whole heartily. That’s why i said to fiala that i think the hispanic people have alot to offer America. They are the nicest and warmest people that i have met. But i am white and my children are neither brats nor spoiled, so we can not generalize about any one race.
Mr. Mill, you spout the usual political correct nonsence because it allows you to keep your job in Santa Ana, as Art states, not many people other than hispanics are in public office in Santa Ana.
It is white/brown/black folks like me who are not running for any office, I don’t need to pander to any race.
A good saying: The devil may offer you riches, if you tell him what he wants to here, but then again he is still the devil and while you gain riches, you lose your soul!
Art, what happen to my last post??
There it is!
thanks Art:)
I never feel like I have to worry about being pulled over by the police for “driving while white”.
I assume you ment only white officers pull people over because they drive “while brown/black”,
Please don’t go into a big speal regarding this countries history! I know what happen to people of colour in this country,because it was happening to people because of their religion in mine!
And their is nothing poor, or weak about me, i only strieve for the best!
strive!
And i take constructive critism while, hense trying to spell better!
Ms. Quinn,
My statement regarding “driving while white” is a far cry from calling every police officer racist.
And yes it does happen that some folks do get pulled over for “driving while black/brown”.
That does not mean all police officers are racists.
Again I have never worried about being pulled over for “driving while white”. However many of my friends who are black/brown have been pulled over for “driving while black/brown”.
If you believe this is something from the past and is not happening today you are just ignorant to reality.
Art, can you give the great one my email, so i don’t need to post it! I might get a few emails, that are a wee bit nasty:)
Jill, what about the coalition? Does bannishmnet include all of the multiple personalities?
David, yes we have his IP so it doesn’t matter what name he posts under or multiple personality. We do not want him back simple as that. If he continues to return and post…he will regret it…he has been reported and we are documenting everything (not just me, but all members of this blog) the entire team. We don’t want any problems. He was welcome to post here in the past, but has continued to post over 20 times (the same demeaning messages with the f word) which violates our posting policy. He has been warned, yet he continues to do it. We had to put a stop to it. He could not post his point once or twice without calling the entire team at oj f****** a**holes 20 times a day. We got his point, now leave. Art Pedroza is the owner of this blog. He allows others to debate with him and disagree with him without any problems or issues. It is just this person (and one other) that do not contribute to debates in a constructive manner with valid points. This blog does not want to be “politically correct” so we do allow name calling to some extent (not 20 times a day) to the entire team at OJ. He needs to leave now…no longer welcome here. We don’t want any problems. He can leave now and save face or return + harass the team and end up in trouble with the law. That is his choice. I have been very nice to Stan, but he is now harassing me as well and I have never done anything to this man in my life…in fact I don’t even know him. I just moderate his posts which are too awful for you folks to see. Now, everyone…sorry for this small interruption…please continue to post, bug Art (not harass) in a fun, debating manner.
Well may be you have shady looking brown/black friends, because none of my friends have ever been pulled over because of their race, and if they were, the police officer would have some explaining to do!
I am not agnorant to any reality, for the reality is their is rasism in every race!
But the reality is also that while a hispanic man and woman can take a evening walk in mission veijo, it would not be advisable for me to take a walk in most parts of Santa Ana at night, because i am white.
Geeze. Another food fight.
thank you michelle i will wait for art to do that . art can you please do that . i belive you have it . thank you .
Hi MIchele:)
“I am not agnorant to any reality, for the reality is their is rasism in every race!
But the reality is also that while a hispanic man and woman can take a evening walk in mission veijo, it would not be advisable for me to take a walk in most parts of Santa Ana at night, because i am white.”
You are correct their is racism in every race. More in some than others.
There are White enclaves within poor Hispanic communities in Santa Ana. Those white residents are not getting hurt why would you?
In contrast people of color are not safe in the Irish section of Boston.
While a student at Harvard I along with other students not white were adviced to keep out of Irish neighborhoosds in Boston becuase of their racism and need to express it by causing physical harm.
A friend of mine has a daughter attending Boston University in September.He told me that at the orientation he attended with his daughter the same advice was given.
You show your ignorance every time you post on every subject you post. YOU ARE CONSISTANT1111
There are 2 posters and you KNOW who you are. You are wasting your time posting. All of your posts are now going to our spam folder so we won’t even read them or see them. Have a wonderful day harassing our spam folder. Sincerely, The OJ Blog Team
A comment i made to Mr. Mill as seen above:
I am not agnorant to any reality, for the reality is their is rasism in every race!
I am consistant, every does enclude the Irish race. In fact it was the Irish that brought most of the slaves to the US. So i am consistant in my points!
And, it was a hispanic patient, that gave me the advice! In fact she sent her son’s to meet me at the gate of her apartment, because she was fearful for my safty.
Blacks cannot enter some hispanic neighborhoods, hispanics cannot enter some black neighboorhoods and yes both in some cities cannot enter neighboorhoods that are all white, i think the common denominator is a violent neighboorhood!
I think you doc, have the harvard sense, while i have common sense. It seams having a degree, does not enclude intellectual honesty.
Thanks Doc. have a nice night, Did you try the Black stone???
Michele,
“I think you doc, have the harvard sense, while i have common sense. It seams having a degree, does not enclude intellectual honesty.”
Intellectual honesty is what you lack! This is what you wrote:
“But the reality is also that while a hispanic man and woman can take a evening walk in mission veijo, it would not be advisable for me to take a walk in most parts of Santa Ana at night, because i am white.”
You are saying Santa Ana Hispanics are racists but not residents in Mission Viejo. Again White enclaves are in the neighborhood you say you were told you would get hurt in. They do not get hurt. Why would they only go after you?
Where are the police reports showing whites getting hurt in Santa Ana by Hispanics.
Another bigot comment from you. Bigots have no intellectual honesty. You are proof of that.
You are not being honest Doc,
even when you know for a fact that i would not be safe in neighorhoods in Santa Ana, because not only am i a female, but i am a white female. I would either be targeted by hispanic female gang members or male gang members.
Would you in all honesty send me to a neighborhood to be hurt, knowing that most likely i would get hurt?.
If i knew that a neigborhood in my area may target you for your race, i would be the first to let you know.
Honesty is based on fact, the fact is that Santa Ana is riddled with high crime and gang filled neighbourhoods. It is in most parts a violent place to be.
I would trust the advise of someone living in a neigbourhood that is gang infested and know’s the character of the people in the neighborhood, over you Doc. I doub’t you have gang members hanging out around your door.
I think, Doc. the proof is that i am honest in everything i write, while you doc. try to cloud honestly with your usual hit list of names.
“Art, can you give the great one my email, so i don’t need to post it!”
Art,
What the hell is this? A dating site for Mexican haters?
No WTF,
Its people sharing their view’s, without the chains of poltical correctness and censoring, you need to stop reading the newpaper’s or watching fox news or listening to Air America, “Try talking and debating with real people”, its fun and you might learn that your view point can be shared and listened too!
Your right i can’t stand Mexicans, except it not the Mexican people, its the Mexican Government and the Mexican elite that i can not stand!
Just like my government and the elite of my country i was forced out of my world into yours!
So go play with your union girls, so you can all spout the same old poop!
Art, i said poop not sh$%
Michele,
Again, why would you get attacked and not the thousands of whites that live in those neighborhoods? The neighborhoods in Santa Ana are not exclusively Hispanic FYI. Whites have Hispanic neighbors surrounding them.
You know this and see it when you visit people that you say advice you about getting hurt by Hispanics when you visit them.
I believe you made this up like you make everything else up.
“I would either be targeted by hispanic female gang members or male gang members.”
You would only be targeted by these gangs as some one in the neighborhood looking to buy drugs or one of the white residents in the nice part of the neighborhood. You are stereotyping and showing your prejudice.
The violence you mention is directed among gang members relative to the drug business. They can care less about your presence unless you are there to buy drugs – in this case you are more than welcome.You help them make coin.
Get off your continues attempts to demonize Hispanics will you.
You only state your belief and opinion. That does not mean your opinion is true. You do need to be careful in any strange neighborhood no matter where it is. I would give you that advice the same as you claim your patient gave you.
“I think, Doc. the proof is that i am honest in everything i write, while you doc. try to cloud honestly with your usual hit list of names.”
Main Entry:
1hon·est Listen to the pronunciation of 1honest
Pronunciation:
\ˈä-nəst\
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin honestus honorable, from honos, honor honor
Date:
14th century
1 a: free from fraud or deception : legitimate, truthful b: genuine, real <making honest sto
Michele,
Everything you write is a fraud and full of deception to fit your agenda. It contradicts “honest”.
I do not have a hit list of names for you as you claim. I only have one, “bigot”.
Dr. Lomeli,
You are so correct. I am white and I have lived in Santa Ana my entire life and I have never been attacked by a Latino.
I have been in all types of neighborhoods in this city at all hours of the night and have never felt as if I was in any danger whatsoever.
In fact I have never heard of someone being attacked in Santa Ana simply because they are white. It just hasn’t happened, period.
Can you cite a single incident on which you can base your paranoid claim Ms. Quinn?
On the other hand, as recently as earlier this month a Hispanic woman was attacked by whites in south Orange County, Ladera Ranch to be specific, because she was Hispanic.
There are other cases of minorities being attacked because the color of their skin in OC. Remember the black man murdered by whites as he left Mc Donalds on Beach Blvd. in HB? They screamed racial slurs as they beat him to death.
I challenge Ms. Quinn to find a single incident anywhere in Orange County and specifically Santa Ana where a white person was attacked for the color of their skin.
This is just more of her bigoted propaganda that she regularly espouses here. Her form of racism is a tad bit softer. I mean there are no white sheets or burning crosses, but her propaganda is tinged with racist undertones.
As i am working in the wee hours of the morning, i have only one thing to say to you both, dr.lo and Mr Mill, stop watchin star trex and come into the real world. You both are a sad reminder of what made the sixites great and 2009 crap.
No man/woman with any sense is going to wonder into the depth of Santa Ana to see if they get their ass kick or not, if the police say its a violent neighbourhood and you see men with lots of violent tatoos, may be it would be a good idea not to try it!
Please stop with the crap that hispanic,s are targeted by white nerds. it is few and very far apart. Mr. Mills the only and reason why you are their, in your postion is that you pander to a bunch of elitsts that pander for money!
Maybe i need to take you on were it count
I have great respect for you Dr.lomeli, your side kick not so much!
In general politians, they usually are scum fighting for nickles.
Sean keep fighting the racial fight for you seat!
Yes, white men do jump for votes! and so do brown men
#39
Hey Art, being Irish does that make me a racist or do I have to live in Boston?? Why can’t we “ALL” just get along?
Ms. Quinn,
So then I can take it from your answer that you cannot cite a single incident in which a white person was attacked soley based on their race?
You continue to put such garbage out there as if it were fact. Surely you can cite one incident that happened here in Santa Ana that can support your ridiculous claim.
“Doc” and I are waiting.
#44Art,
What the hell is this? A dating site for Mexican haters?
I am LMAO! What a riot!
Art’s eHarmony for bigots!
Jill, the best way to deal with blog trolls is: DO NOT FEED THEM.
You delete their nonsense and you ignore them. They hate that! But it doesnt matter, because they essentially cease to exist on the blog any longer!
Lol Red Vixen, luv you dearly but you are on here feeding him with attention NOW and have been on many posts…so thanks for the advice.