Sometimes you can have too much of a good thing! In this case our 2009 SAUSD thread has so many comments on it that it is now running too slowly. So we are starting this new thread for the second half of 2009.
So far this year we have had plenty to write about. The State budget cuts have had a devastating affect in Santa Ana. Layoffs have ensued.
To top this all off, the SAEA cut a weird deal with the SAUSD that essentially cut benefits for all the younger teachers. And then the SAEA held elections.
Now more budget cuts loom…and all the other issues remain. I expect this thread will fill up too before long…
#98
As far as I know you haven’t missed anything. Someone (#86)asked about how secure this blog was. #91 reported that Chavez, the ITC dude at SAUSD as well as president of CSEA could in fact search down someone posting on this blog, which of course is not true.
Anyone can ping this blog and get this blogs general information, which I proved, and as you can see this blog is pretty secure.
No one that I know of believes Chavez is trying to obtain anyones information but the implication posted by # 91 needed to be addressed. If CSEA members believe the president of the union can search them down, obviously they would be afraid to comment here, and that is just wrong and untrue.
Jill, I don’t see where you’ve offended anyone. What you and the RIF’ed teachers have been through is horrible. I hope your lawsuit is successful.
#100 –
Kindly explain your position that .. “you’re tired of being fired year after year.” I find it peculiar that the State of CA would place the State in the position of such liability. Where you aware of this year after practice of firing and if so, why did you sign on?
Thanks for the clarification.
103- You are clearly a newcomer to the education field.
“I find it peculiar that the State of CA would place the State in the position of such liability,” umm the district is our employer not the state.
“why did you sign on?” Well, teachers work in a district for a variety of reasons. If a teacher leaves a district, they lose all seniority and job security. Secure employment is supposed to be assisted by our union, but the SAEA- that’s the Santa Ana teacher union-is both corrupt and incompetent.
I suggest you read the posts before this one. You can go back 2 years if you really want a barrel of laughs.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/teachers-school-cuts-2457560-layoffs-education
Tuesday, June 9, 2009
200 protest Santa Ana Unified budget cuts
The group marched in front of school district offices prior to tonight’s school board meeting.
By FERMIN LEAL
The Orange County Register
SANTA ANA – About 200 teachers, parents, students and other school employees marched in front of the Santa Ana Unified School District offices today to protest layoffs and other cuts to education.
The grouped march along Grand and Chestnut avenues around 4 p.m. carrying signs that read “Give the teachers back their jobs” and “Schools should come first.”
The group protested prior to tonight’s school board meeting, where officials plan to discuss further budget cuts. Marchers wore black and blew whistles, while several motorists honked to show support.
The protest, organized by teachers and classified employee unions, and parent groups, was aimed persuading the school b’voard and district administrators to restore cuts to education programs and rescind the nearly 500 layoffs of teachers and other employees approved in May.
“We are outraged,” said Susan Mercer, the teachers’ union president-elect. “We want the layoffs rescinded so we don’t have huge class sizes when school begins this fall. They have funding to make this happen. There is the federal stimulus money.”
In a written statement, Santa Ana Unified spokesperson Angela Burrell said, “We believe today’s teacher protests should be directed at our legislators due to the state’s ongoing fiscal crisis affecting education. The Santa Ana Unified School District Board of Education and staff do not want to cut the budget any further than we have… We have tried to keep cuts as far away from the classroom as possible. Since ninety percent of our budget consists of salaries and benefits, essentially people, we unfortunately have had to make some tough decisions that have included issuing layoff notices.”
Santa Ana Unified officials have said they had to cut about $130 million over the past five years because of declining enrollment and the state budget crisis, and that layoffs and cuts to services and programs are unavoidable despite federal stimulus funds.
Countywide, districts have already said they need to slash nearly $300 million and eliminate almost 3,000 education jobs. Cuts are likely to be more severe as the state continues to slide into a deeper deficit.
“We just don’t want to lose our teachers next year,” said Richard Perez, a student from Villa Intermediate, who participated in the march. “We really need them to help us learn.”
Hmm. Lets see. The union blames the district. The district blames the state. Too bad no one will put the blame where it really belongs. Special interests..which hey..brings us back to the union again. Now that’s a circular argument!
It’s the union, the union, the union. The district is no model of good management, but these are extraordinary times for even well managed districts and businesses. Instead of 500 teachers taking a 100 percent pay cut, why couldn’t all the teachers take a 10% pay cut at least temporarily. This would benefit students, who we are all here to serve. Of course even a 10% pay cut would be painful, and nobody would like it. But the burden needs to be shared in tough times. Unfortunately, I don’t think the union would ever consider this option — even though it would help the district save 20:1, help maintain student learning and progress, please parents, and please many teachers, even many teachers who are not being fired and who either care about the students or just don’t want to teach large classes. The union is only interested in preserving its pay scale, notwithstanding the price to society, students, and any teachers that have to get completely knocked off the pay scale because of the union’s greed. This system sucks. Until the public wrestles away the stranglehold that unions have on public education, it will be very hard for us to ever compete with Japan, Germany, or even China. Our educational system is a laughingstock in those countries, and the unions are to blame.
Jill, I am all in on your lawsuit against SAEA. Please keep us posted, and let us know how we can help.
Rif- have you ever examined teacher’s unions in any other country? How about US labor history? Our union stinks, but a good union is a thing of joy. Without teacher’s unions, we would be getting paid 24 g a year and living under a strict morals code overseen by school boards. History is a cruel mistress, try reading before you warm the air.
#104
If your smart remark is an indicator of what type of teacher you are, then it’s perfectly explainable why SAUSD is always at the bottom of the academic performance scale.
I don’t need to scroll back two years for a barrel of laughs – your comment is sufficient.
Best laugh – at last night’s board meeting the superintendent announced she was dressed in black because she was mourning the finacial woes of the district. Ain’t that a hoot. All admins, teachers & classified staff should be permanently dressed in black mourning the district’s failure to meet NCLB goals.
Better laugh – watching Jose Hernandez cast the evil eye on so-called dissents.
Good times.
Sooooooooo….. How was the big rally last night? Anyone go and want to share their observations?
Thanks for any insights!
#111
i was there. it was sad… so many teachers pacing up and down the street. some talked to each other because they were not wearing ear plugs to protect from the noise. others carried their signs and whistled like maniacs in a frenzy. some tried to get the cars passing by to honk. i saw a driver adamantly say “no,no,no” to a teacher urging the drivers to honk. after that, the teacher shut down, he just held his sign in silence. i had tears in my eyes. i haven’t been fired, but i will be displaced. i walked with my ear plugs on… i didn’t wish to talk to anyone. i just blew my whistle. this morning my arms ached as did my cheeks. there were more than 200 people there. i heard a teacher ask a union guy how many signs they had brought. he said 200. i know that there were more than 200 people there because the union ran out of signs… i am glad to have gone because i couldn’t imagine leaving all these teacher alone at a time like this…
I’m a classified employee that is being displaced. However, the district saw fit a few days ago to send us all letters of assurance that we will be returning to our same jobs at our same schools. Found out it was all a sham to keep us quiet. Truly disgraceful.
http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/06/laid-off-santa-ana-teachers-have-to-pay-8-to-see-the-sausd-fire-them/
I attended the Board Meeting although I wasn’t able to attend the rally. The rally looked successful based on the photos.
Those who wished to speak – certificated, classified, parents, students, community members – were all limited to 1 minute rather than the usual 3 minutes because some 240 cards had been turned in, so each person’s name had to be called even though they weren’t there. Nevertheless, many people were able to communicate very powerfully in one minute about the importance of keeping class size reduction – about the value to the students of smaller classes in first, second, and third.
In my minute, I reminded the Board that CSR does not cost 19 million as they were told at the last Board Meeting, but that it probably costs the district less than 5 million after they receive the 14.4 million from the state in reimbursement for the program. It seems to me that the Business Services Department wants to make the cost seem higher by of not telling the real cost to the District which is the difference between the cost of the program and the money the District receives from the state for CSR.
In my minute, I told them that they could choose to either load primary classes at 30 and get 6.7 million in CSR money for not even implementing it, or they could take the 14.4 million from the state, add another 5 million to it and implement the program the way it was intended to be implemented.
I started telling them my ideas of where to get the money starting with the 8.5 million budgeted OVER the required reserves (and it may be higher depending on what they’re planning to leave in some of their other funds). I’ll submit some of my other ideas – of which I have plenty – in writing and hope they read them.
I KNOW this District can afford class size reduction. Five million out of a 500 million dollar budget – c’mon. It all depends on where your priorities are. Not only does it mean students are better served, but it also means the jobs of 232 CSR teachers plus a number of QEIA teachers.
While the Board might look at the cost of bringing back 20:1 in first, I think they need teachers and parents to help them also see the impact it has at second and third for their students and children. There’s a Board Meeting on the 23rd where they’re supposed to approve the 09-10 budget. Hopefully, there will be a study session or something in-between where there will be another opportunity for community input.
Just like MEGAFed-Up, I can’t imagine not trying to do something at a time like this.
Is it just me or does the board just seem totally derelict in their duties? Above is about the 3rd or 4th comment by Patricia O’Neil pointing out where unused money is. For the sake of argument I’m going to assume she is right and even if she is not why can’t the board simply reply to her and say no we don’t have that money in that account? My guess? Either the board doesn’t know, won’t admit the money exists, or is completely being bamboozled by a scurrilous district administration. An administration, by the way, that hasn’t cut any top administrators, taken a pay cut, and keeps flying six figure administration job openings. (Below are just a few of the current postings on Job-Ed)
One would think, at this late date, that the board, if it is truly unbiased would be taking a real hard look at the administration and wondering what the hell is up with this bunch of self serving bureaucrats and be up to speed as to where every nickel in the district is located. One would think.
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Director of Elementary Student Achievement/Charter Schools ( 214 days, 12 months)
Posted: 6/3/2009 – Deadline: 6/16/2009 4:30 PM PST
Certificated Staff
6/3/2009 Santa Ana Unified, Santa Ana
Orange County As listed on the administrative salary schedule. Level 52 $110,232.00 – $123,432.00 per year with Bachelor’s Degree Level 54 $112,824.00 – $125,832.00 per year with Master’s Degree Level 55 $114,096.00 – $127,428.00 per year with Doctorate Degree
Assistant Principal IV – High School
Posted: 6/8/2009 – Deadline: 6/19/2009 4:30 PM PST
Certificated Staff
6/8/2009 Santa Ana Unified, Santa Ana
Orange County Level 46 $95,755.00 – $107,943.00 per year with Bachelor’s Degree Level 48 $98,351.00-$110,484.00 per year with Master’s Degree Level 49 $99,506.00-$111,826.00 per year with Doctorate Degree
Principal – High School (214 days, 12 months)
Posted: 6/8/2009 – Deadline: 6/26/2009 4:30 PM PST
Certificated Staff
6/8/2009 Santa Ana Unified, Santa Ana
Orange County Level 46 $95,755.00 – $107,943.00 per year with Bachelor’s Degree Level 48 $98,351.00 – $110,484.00 -$110,484.00 per year with Master’s Degree Level 49 $99,506.00 – $111,826.00 per year with Doctorate Degree
Associate Superintendent-Business Services ( 245 duty days, 12 month)
Posted: 6/3/2009 – Deadline: 7/17/2009 4:30 PM PST
Certificated Staff
6/3/2009 Santa Ana Unified, Santa Ana
Orange County $184,629.00 per year
does anyone know what classified positions were laid off?
#116 derelicit in their duties? That’s an understatement.
Noji & Richardson have served on the board for nearly four decades – combined years of elected service. Why does the SAEA, Santa Ana Chamber of Commerce and Mayor Pulido, continue to support their re-election? And what have Noji & Richardson done in their near 40 years to improve the quality of education in Santa Ana? Their tenure merely hits home the need for term limits.
As I sat during last Tuesday’s meeting and listened to the Measure G gang cheer on their efforts to pass this bond, I was reminded how adpet they are at using the parents. Wouldn’t it be swell if they channeled their energies into helping the parents form an organized parent organization group?
At my son’s elementary school, we haven’t had a librarian all year long. Parents volunteered to go in and run it, but according to the union, we would be taking “jobs” away from qualified teachers. So our library has sat all year long, unused.
It’s the lack of common sense that is doing the whole state in.
At one junior high in SAUSD, all kids receive free meals, no matter their income. It’s just a given – no forms necessary. The state mandates that the kids get a full meal. If the student wants only a juice, employees are forced to hand out a full meal anyways. The kid picks out the juice and throws the rest in the trash. At the end of the day, if there’s any cafeteria food left, it goes in the trash and gets bleach dumped on it so no one can dig it out and eat it.
Hi Concerned Parent! We are still waiting to hear about those Classified postions! All of us are still in the dark! I tell you this much what left of our office staff is waiting to know too! If anyone knows please post..I don’t know how long they expect us to hang out and wait. Teachers keep telling us at our school that they are sad about us leaving.. one even came in and cried about it. Sweet to know they will miss us if we are gone.
Concerned parent!!! Is that true about the bleach? Oh my gosh! What a waste! Your library goes unused! Another waste! Teachers are important but that is not saying Classified is not either! They are getting the crap end of the stick! We will all pay for this come August when school starts!
rumor is that over 100 classified staff will be laid off, including bi-literate assistants and office staff. library techs look like they’re staying as well as registrars.
Thank you, Patricia, for being a voice of reason and truth to compete with all of the hysteria being presented to the board by the district administration. I hope the board listens to you. I also help the SAEA will jump on the bandwagon with you to show the district how it can save jobs. But I doubt it will.
By the way, I have heard that the district received about 40 million dollars in stimulus money and will receive another 15 million next year but that it is choosing to put it in reserves even though it was intended to save teachers’ jobs. What an outrage! If SAEA won’t fight this injustice, I hope the teachers can organize themselves to fight it without SAEA.
Heres where you can find out about Classified layoffs. http://www.sausd.us/1443102812408810/blank/browse.asp?A=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&C=56079 Go to the second board report page 11. I do believe the phase 2 is going to be rescinded. There will be a rally before the board meeting on the 23rd. It would be great if we had a nice turnout. Bring your friends, family, extended family, etc.
Saddleback High School finally rids itself of one of the most notorious pedophile protectors, aka Vice Principal, Evelyn Carrigg, to McFadden Intermediate School next fall. Evelyn Carrigg has protected now-convicted and plea-bargained, child abuser and child endangerment employee, Alonso Gonzales for the past 4 years at Saddleback High School. She was responsible for harassing and displacing a mandated reporter teacher out of her position in order to cover for the misdeeds and predatory actions of Gonzales. Evelyn leaves a dark stain of abuse and enabling a problem employee in her wake. She is unrepentant and continues to be a serial liar.
Good luck to the teachers of McFadden. You will need it. The Roadrunners wish you the best in dealing with this terrible administrator.
Robert Laxton just relieved himself of a huge burden.
WOO HOO. Ding Dong the witch is gone! V.P. Evelyn Carrigg is tranferred to McFadden Intermediate School where they are likely to eat her alive. Do not let her near your students!
Now all Laxton needs to concentrate on is Jennifer Tyo Skelton for her continual abuse of disabled students and Leonardo Ramirez for his inexcusable pardon for sexual assault that gave him back his job under now-fired ex-Principal Esther Jones.
Keep it up, Jane Russo. You are getting closer to cleaning up the Saddleback High School campus.
And btw: cast out Jones’ crony Marilyn DeYoung as Special Education chair. She replaced the incredible Susan Spackman when SHS was at the peak of Special Education leadership, because Susan had the spine to report Alonso Gonzales as a predator. Jones immediately demoted Ms. Spackman and drove her from the high school site. Jones positioned the incompetent Marilyn DeYoung as the defacto department head and DeYoung was instrumental in making harassing phone calls and using intimidation tactics to keep teaching staff from reporting further incidents. The recorded tapes of the calls were collected and sent to attorneys for the case. Marilyn DeYoung was a special education student, herself, yet was promoted by Jones to oversee the department as a weak toady to control decisions.
This is a good day for disabled students. SAUSD has turned a difficult corner. Keep It Up. You are getting there.
Lisa Hinshaw WILL eat her alive. I’ve worked with both, I don’t think Lisa will put up with an AP who doesn’t do anything.
#124
Thanks. On my Adobe the list comes up on page 20 but you were in the ball park.
You can bet Lisa has been told to cut the witch no slack. Evelyn’s clock is ticking.
Hehe Hinshaw….. Its more like hee haw! Anyways it must be a big relief for Saddleback. 128, they must have changed it since yesterday. I was curious if anybody here got a letter of “reassurance”. I have been told it lists some furlough days and I want to know if its true or not.
Wow! What a lot of twisted thinking. If Carigg is as bad as you say, why is she being transferred to a school with much younger prey? If all you say about her is true, this person should be removed from any and all school sites.
Why is this permissable? And why aren’t our children being protected?
#131
You must not be familiar with the way things are done at SAUSD. Younger students are less likely to report the abusive treatment fostered under their new VP. Get it now?
Who is even sure if Alonso Gonzales is off payroll yet?
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS175836+11-Jun-2009+PRN20090611
Nicholas Academic Centers to Honor Santa Ana School District Graduates Who Are Headed for College This Fall
Nicholas Academic Centers to Honor Santa Ana School District Graduates Who Are
Headed for College This Fall
NEWPORT BEACH, Calif., June 11 – Santa Ana high school graduates who are
heading to college after being tutored and mentored at the Nicholas Academic
Centers, will be available for interviews Thursday at a special graduation
event at the Newport Beach home of Dr. Henry “Nick” Nicholas.
Many of the students will be the first person in their families to go to
college, and will be attending Thursday’s event with their parents.
“In most cases, these kids heading to college is a landmark event for their
entire extended family,” said Dr. Nicholas. “Now that the Centers have
established a successful track record, we want to expand the concept to other
schools, other school districts and other counties.”
The launching of these college careers is even more significant because Santa
Ana USD has the highest dropout rate in Orange County and the City of Santa
Ana ranks lowest among the county’s cities in percentage of adults with
bachelor’s degrees.(1)
With the help of Henry T. Nicholas Education Foundation grants, two NACs have
been established in Santa Ana in the past 15 months to help students who have
college potential improve academically so they can get into college.
The centers, located in downtown Santa Ana and at Valley High School, are open
to students from high schools throughout the district.
“These are highly motivated young people who need that extra bit of help,”
said retired Juvenile Court Judge Jack Mandel, the NAC director. “I think our
first year has shown we can make a major difference in the lives of these
young students.”
The buffet celebration, sponsored by the Henry T. Nicholas Education
Foundation, is open to members of the media interested in covering the event.
What: Nicholas Academic Center Graduation Celebration
When:Thursday, June 11, 2009, 6:30 – 9:00 PM
Where: Home of Dr. Henry “Nick” Nicholas, 5 Masters Circle,
Newport Beach, CA
Contact:Tony Knight – 310-788-2850
(1) 2009 Orange County Community Indicators Report
/PRNewswire — June 11/
SOURCE Judge Jack Mandel, director, Nicholas Academic Centers
Does anyone know if there is any truth to the rumor that SAEA’s premisses are being used for private business? Someone said Scott Miller was involved in this scandal… is this true? Who is the other person? Also, is there any truth to the rumor that someone from the district got a $20,000 dollar raise? Please explain this to the rest of us. I keep hearing about it but I am not sure if it is true…
I’m sure you are talking about rumors about the anger management deal. I don’t know much about it but I do know that it is related to the union. Know one seems to be able to get a handle on what is really going on with that. The rumors or whatever you want to call them started on this blog, I haven’t heard a word about it anywhere else.
I can definitely tell you that Juan Lopez received a $20,000 raise this year, why, I really don’t understand.
Mega Fed up,
You teachers are going to have to start paying attention here. You can’t expect posters like Anonplus to continuously keep posting the same things up.
Well, the anger managment deal was covered on several threads.
Anonplus did a good job of recapping the situation on post number 9 on the Par-tay hits a speed bump thread: http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/06/saea-union-elections-jam-down-par-tay-hits-a-speed-bump/
However, when you go to the link of the managment services, somehow, mysteriously, Jennifer Isensee is not listed there anymore. and Miller has a new address and phone number.
http://www.angercertification.com/Certified-Provider-City.aspx?state=CA&city=Santa+Ana
Previously they were both listing the SAEA offices as their physical address for business and Scott was also using the SAEA office phone as his business phone.
YOU TEACHERS are going to have to ask those clowns about all that. I would think the fact that they modified all that information speaks volumes. And in case they think they are going to get away with saying it never happened, we’ve got captured screen shots of all that.
These “rumors” exist b/c your stupid union gave everyone at the last rep meeting only one minute to ask questions about “transparency”. You teachers are being had by a group of racketeers using your resources, shunning your phone calls for help and stonewalling you out of deserved information and answers.
And you pay about a THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR for this “service” by a bunch of goons.
When you folks get nice and pissed and force answers from Gladys, come back and tell everyone if those are rumors or if that kind of crap has been going on and for how long.
Scotty Miller is now your TREASURER. Isn’t pristine ethics a requirement for that kind of job?
Red,
Thanks. I didn’t have the fortitude to hunt down and repost for late bloomers or someone I believe is a 3rd type of union visitor to the blog.
However I’m glad you did and I double checked what you found. Sure enough Jennifer is MIA from the website, but Mr. Pristine Scotty Miller apparently is a wise ass! It would seem he replaced his phone number and home address on the Century website with ARTS information!
If you ever needed proof of the unethical in your face type of union hacks that are running SAEA this is it. This guy Miller must be a real gem.
http://snipurl.com/comingsoon <–coming SOON
Keep in mind this is a sneak peek and many of the links are NOT working yet. Keep checking back all weekend!
Red Vixen, I can’t believe what you are saying about the Union officers- Can you post the screen shots? I am amazed that these people would be so brazen as to use the our union in this way. Why isn’t anyone calling them on it ? Where are the rep.s ??? How could this okay? Aren’t things like this supposed to make people step down ? Why do Scott Miller & Jennifer Insensee still have a position? How is can this corruption go on ….PLEASE POST THE SCREEN SHOTS ! I’m disgusted –
Anonplus,
He’s a dope to do that. Art has already sent out a notification that he is aware that Scotty is using Art’s personal information and identity in advertising his “Anger Management” services.
teacher99,
Did you bother to click on any of the links that people have been posting? You could see the screen shots as they occured. Here’s the latest link with YOUR TREASURER, SCOTT MILLER, misrepresenting Art Pedroza’s phone number and address as his own:
Scott C. Miller
2309 N. Spurgeon St
Santa Ana, CA 92706
Phone: 714-606-7622
csmiller@pacbell.net
http://www.angercertification.com/Certified-Provider-City.aspx?state=CA&city=Santa+Ana
Talk about a total lack of judgement. And it smacks of extreme incompetence – Scott Miller is supposed to be helping others manage their anger, for very steep prices, according to the website, yet he’s HUGELY PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE. When confronted with the facts that he was initially using the SAEA phone number and the SAEA physical address to advertise his side business, he REPLACES the phone and the address with OJ’s Art Pedroza’s address and phone number. He’s a loon. He’s using the most base of intimidation tactics.
AND he’s in charge of your local union monies as the brand new treasurer.
You all need to contact your CTA office and demand an investigation and explanation. You all are paying big money for these clowns to rip off an election, rip off the members’ resources and rip off innocent persons with identity theft. There is an obvious criminal and unethical mindset in place at your local. Sorry for all the bad news, but this isn’t the first time that an organization would get hijacked by corrupt leaders. Now the big question is: How long until it all gets blown up and cleaned up? Which one of you beaten-down teachers will actually be incensed enough to confront the situation?
Jennifer Isensee is still advertisning her “Anger Management” services. But now she has listed her own city, Huntington Beach, as the locale. She’s dropped the Santa Ana address and the reference to Newport Beach that she previously displayed:
http://www.angercertification.com/Certified-Provider-City.aspx?state=CA&city=Huntington+Beach
Jennifer Isensee
PO Box 7122
Huntington Beach, CA 92615
Phone: 714-317-6636
jennisaea@hotmail.com
Scott C. Miller
2309 N. Spurgeon St
Santa Ana, CA 92706
Phone: 714-606-7622
csmiller@pacbell.net
I am asking for Jennifer and Scott’s resignation because they abused their privilege in their position. I think they need to step down….BOTH of them. We need to take this to the next step if they choose to stay.
http://snipurl.com/runrepsrun
They can RUN, but they cannot HIDE from Google’s cached pages and we all saved the pages anyways…so give it up Scott and Jennifer…you’re sunk. Everyone is watching you by the way.
Yes, they used this for DISTRICT business…
http://snipurl.com/anger1
Red,
I didn’t venture around looking for Jennifer’s new location but I assumed it was on one of the other city sites somewhere.
When this matter first came to light I was waiting to see how the response was going to go. As soon as Isensee and Miller removed the SAEA headquarters address it was a clear admission they did not have authorization to use either the address or phone number. Miller, though, continued to use the SAEA phone number as a business number until it was mentioned here again and it was removed. This furthers his admission of guilt and lack of union authorization. By adding Art’s personal information he has completely exposed his maturity level.
While Art’s information is public on the net due to his business and previous run for office that doesn’t mean that Miller or anyone else has the right to put it up as their own. The obvious intent was to harass, annoy and interfere with Art’s own business, which may or may not be a legal issue.
It might be interesting to contact the owner of Century Anger Management and outline this crap and see what that response is. They claim some serious credibility along with an outrageous price so I wonder if they would want their business ethics questioned with the OC probation department and other Orange County public agencies which they claim approval from.
Jill: I don’t know what is up with your new server (snipurl) but it triggers off every spyware program I have in my computer. It might just be my system but you should be aware of the possible problem.
Several teachers at my site have been railroaded by Isensee’s incompetent, and as it turns out unethical and collusive “representation.” Who do we call to complain? Is there a CTA ethics committee or e- mail address so we can memorialize these complaints?
You can count me in if a lawsuit is ever filed.
Jill,
This event will be something that will help destroy a corrupt organization as it stands today.
Thanks to everyone for your input. Here are some details:
In a REPOST (a post that contains communications from teachers who do NOT want to run the risk of anyone tracking them down for harassment purposes to silence them) back on
MAY 17th, 12;26 pm,
POST NUMBER 852 on the 2009 Archive thread, It was revealed that Jennifer Isensee and Scott Miller were using SAEA resources (phone and mailing address)as part of their personal advertising for “Anger Management” consultation thru Century Anger Management:
http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/01/new-2009-sausd-corruption-thread/
1. District-paid grievance chair, Jennifer Isensee, and SAEA “ChalkTalk” editor, Scott Miller may be using SAEA union offices for personal gain as “Anger Management” service providers:
http://www.angercertification.com/Certified-Provider-City.aspx?state=CA&city=Santa+Ana
Information per that site:
Century Anger Management Provider List for Santa Ana, California
Century Anger Management provides two levels of certification:
• Level 1 — Content Training
• Level 2 — Certified Anger Management Professional
Level 2 Providers
Jennifer Isensee
c/o Santa Ana Unified School District
2107 N. Broadway, Suite 305
Santa Ana, CA 92706
Phone: 714-317-6636
jennisaea@hotmail.com
Scott C. Miller
2107 N. Broadway
Suite 305
Santa Ana, CA 92706
Phone: 7145426758
csmiller@pacbell.net
Jennifer is running for SAEA Secretary. Scott wants to be in charge of union funds as the Treasurer. Both are candidates in the current and controversial election.
Since then, Jennifer and Scott have modified or removed various portions of their business advertising. They didn’t do it right away. and UNION HACK attacks continued on the threads.
Yesterday, we find that Scott Miller has been using Art Pedroza’s cell phone number and personal address in advertising of Anger Management services. Sometime this morning, the Century Anger Management site administrator removed Scott’s advertisment altogether and notified Art of his displeasure with Miller.
Jennifer has moved her business advertisment to the section of Huntington Beach providers.
A union Hack/s continued to attack our posters nearly non-stop in an effort to disrupt discussions about the elections and the unethical appearance of Jennifer and Scott’s side businesses possibly being run out of SAEA offices on Broadway.
We DO have screen shots of all the shenanigans. Teachers, assemble your documentation and demand answsers via a CTA investigation, which is your right.
Also, in other developments: The Elections Challenge was supposed to have been addressed by the 9th or 10th. So far it looks like it was not addressed by SAEA.
Stay tuned. I am sure that the elections committee will be informed of the status shortly. NOT.
But at some point, you’ll know if those election results will stand. CTA is responsible now.
snipurl is NOT my server…it is a redirection url site is all…
Jill; Got it. Just thought you might want to know in case you had a problem later…8)
Anonplus,
Thank you 🙂 the link is ok…I just used a redirect because the url was so long is all. Sometimes freewebtown makes spyware go off is all because of the word “free” on it is all…trust me I don’t even use a tracker…I have other things to worry about right now, but I wanted to let people know those links are safe to go to. 🙂
The real question I have for everyone:
Do you want these 2 (Jennifer & Scott) representing YOU when they are playing games like this? This is not funny. These two are basically in charge (since they were elected) and now they are doing things like having side businesses inside the SAEA office, hiding addresses, using other peoples’ addresses and god knows what else they are doing.
Do we want them representing us? That is the REAL question of the day? I don’t want someone in there who is abusing their power (personally) or someone who is using poor judgement. We will let the people speak. The truth is out there now for everyone to see. Please understand we are not out to get anyone, people are hanging themselves.
We will let the people speak for themselves and I’m sure we will hear from the person they send out to write for them.
MegaFed-Up (#134) Why would you post such a ridiculous question here? Do you really think that anyone here wants to find out the truth? Or really cares enough to have actually done any type of research or investigation? Did you or anyone else bother calling SAEA before these wild allegations were posted?
Well, in answer to your question, I called SAEA and asked. No one at SAEA knows anything about a business being run out of SAEA. So it looks like that, unless proven otherwise, the rumor is false – in fact, it’s a lie.
Of course, I’ll be taken to task for believing the people that actually work in the office, but it’s either believe them or believe the people posting on the OJ that never seem to provide any proof – and I don’t believe that being listed in a directory of people that have received training is proof that they were running a business.