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“Planned Parenthood shouldn’t receive county funding for its health outreach programs because it also performs abortions, which are morally wrong. That’s what the Orange County Supervisors said Tuesday when they voted unanimously to suspend a contract with the nonprofit organization, after an hours-long debate about abortion rights and county contracting policies,” according to the O.C. Register.
I hope the Jannies are happy. Supervisor Janet Nguyen did not stand up for her constituents. Instead she voted right along with the rest of the Talibani Republicans on the O.C. Board of Supervisors.
Nguyen also was the key vote against proposed County health ratings for local restaurants.
Our entire Board of Supervisors appears to be anti-public health.
I don’t buy the deranged argument advanced by Supervisor John Moorlach, that funding these programs somehow leads to more abortions. I think that what is really going on is that Assistant County CEO Rob Richardson, who is a Republican, wanted revenge because a PAC run by Planned Parenthood mailed out a number of hit pieces against Richardson’s campaign for the SAUSD School Board last year. This move by the BOS was nothing more than political retribution.
And I am sure that the Supervisors were peeved that Planned Parenthood also backed me, for the Santa Ana City Council, against their boy Carlos Bustamante, who is a very lame County manager.
I was surprised that the O.C. Register’s editorial board bought into Moorlach’s crazed scheme. What exactly is Libertarian about advancing a Talibani cause?
As for the Jannies, I hope they are happy now. I spoke to Claudio Gallegos yesterday and he said that Nguyen was going to explain herself to him. What is there to explain? We all know how she voted. As usual, she is worthless.
The irony is that a recent study shows that by far most California voters are pro-choice. And other studies show that abortions are dropping, and have been doing so for some time. But the OC BOS appears to be in a bubble – or behind an Orange curtain…
Well,
There you go. The chickens have come home to roost. Claudio is speraking to janet Nguyen personally to hear her explain herself to him? I thought Claudio wasnt a Jannie? At least thats his position.
Planned Parenthood is a non-profit charity.
You can take money out of your own pocket and give it to that organization. If you choose.
Why is it so important for the county taxing authority take the money by force from others to give to Planned Parenthood?
The county needs to work on getting funds and using the taxes forced from us, to pay their employees and the valid services that the government is suppose to provide.
Ever hear of “United Way“? They collect money to distribute to charities, that is their business. And that is not suppose to be the business of the county (of Orange).
Giving money to Planned Parenthood a non-profit charity is a special interest loophole that needs to be closed because it is costing the tax payers money, not part of the main purpose of county government, and there are other entities who’s business is to handle that kind of support (United Way, Gates Foundation, etc)
Again, Planned Parenthood is a non-profit charity. Cut them a check out of your personal funds to cover the costs of their services that you support.
Pro-choice should not get a penny of the counties tax monies, and neither should the pro-life organizations.
Cook,
The money was for services rendered. It was not a donation.
“…Our entire Board of Supervisors appears to be anti-public health…” Says Art Pedroza.
Quite the contrary. Aborting the life of an unborn baby is as “anti-public health” as a society can get!!! Planned Parenthood spent 6 figures alone in SAUSD to get a idealogue candiate elected so they can push forward with “health clinics” in all schools. Why? So they can further undermine the authority of the Parents and coax the girls into abortions so the greedy machine can continue to make its millions on the slaughter of innocent children. Where’s the “non-partisan” or “scientific” cause there? In the case of SAUSD, that would be hundreds of Hispanic babies, Mr. Pedroza. What about your precious La Raza? Where’s your outrage if for no other reason than that? You are a sell-out to the liberals on this issue. Shame on you! There are plenty of legitimate health clinics and local churches to help out young ladies in distress that will provide them with healthcare as well as find a home for that precious innocent child they choose to let live. The young lady can then go through life knowing she didn’t murder for convenience sake and have the mental piece of mind of knowing she did the right thing out of something bad that happened to her.
Here to unmask liberals hiding as Libertarians!
Abortion funding is NOT a Libertarian position.
Read libertarianwiki.org and you will find that, in fact, there are only two positions for Libertarians. One is to prevent government funding, a LIBERAL cause celebre, as it is not in the acceptable sphere of government, and TWO is to prevent abortion in most cases as it violates a central Libertarian principle – LIFE.
“Most libertarians are in favor of legalized abortion. The official U.S. Libertarian Party platform calls for the withdrawal of government from the issue. This includes legalizing abortion, leaving it up to individuals to decide, and a complete prohibition on government funding of the practice. Funding would cease not only because it is outside of government’s appropriate sphere of activity, but also because that would constitute using people’s tax money for activities they morally oppose.”
“The minority view of libertarians in favor of government prohibition of abortion is expressed by Libertarians for Life. Disagreement exists as to whether exceptions should be made for certain situations like rape or incest, although it is almost universally agreed exceptions should be allowed to save the life of the mother.”
Read Ron Paul, the poster boy for Libertarianism, for more details…
http://glassbooth.org/explore/index/ron-paul/12/abortion-and-birth-control/16/
This poster will be further vigilant about the rampant abuse when it comes to representing TRUE LIBERTARIANISM!
#5 and 6,
Again, the services rendered by Planned Parenthood had nothing to do with abortion. They were being paid to conduct teen health education.
As for Libertarians and their position on abortion, I think you would have a hard time finding Libertarians who are Talibanis. And Ron Paul isn’t a Libertarian. He is a Republican.
The financial support withdrawn, as Art P. attempts to clarify, was to address teen and preteen health issues the right wing Republicans support:
– Birth control
– Abstinence
– sexually transmitted diseases
The Sups. decided to break the contract and later give the same resposibility to another clinic to give the same service they contracted with Planned Parenthood to do.
The decision is not about tax payer money used for abortions or funding a non profit entity.
It is about BREAKING A VALID CONTRACT WITH A LEGIT BUSINESS BASED ON A GROUP’S (OC Supervisors)MORAL BELIEF.
Should a public agency have the authority to break contracts or make contracts with businesses based on wether they agree with or diagree with that busines’s percieved MORALS.
More direct, in this case, should a majority right wing Republican Board have the authority to decide to do business only with businesses that have the same MORAL beliefs of a minority sector (11%) of the Republican that they apparantly answer to?
Supervisor Bates is correct to be concerned with the decision being based on a moral personal or political belief. This can open a big can of worms.
Making a decision like this to only gather political strenght will cause more harm than good to the Republican party.
It is or can result in moral intimidation.
Travis,
The problem is that banning abortion puts women at risk. And it does nothing to stop irresponsible men from impregnating women.
Men should not be able to tell women what to do with their bodies.
Art Lomeli,
What about the deceptive lengths Planned Parenthood went to to obtain the contract in the first place? (Just like they are with the innocent young girls that think they’re there to be honest and help them out – they tried to push me to have one!) That would make the contract voidable regardless of the “morals” of either side. Please!!! Don’t try to play us all for fools by claiming none of Planned Parenthood’s money is used to fund abortions! Everyone knows that’s their ulitimate goal because that’s where the big money is for them. Just look at the answer they give on http://www.teenwire.com to a teen who asking what to do because she doens’t want to have an abortion:
“No one can make you get an abortion if you don’t want one. Abortion providers only perform abortions for women who have made the decision to have one. Having a baby because your friends think you should, or having an abortion because your parents think you should, may not be what is best for you. You may learn from the advice other people give you, but you have to decide what’s best for yourself. A woman who has an unintended pregnancy has three options. She can raise the child, place the child for adoption, or have an abortion. Every woman needs to decide which option is best for her, but deciding may be hard to do.
Talking with a trusted adult, such as a teacher, religious adviser, or trained counselor, may help you with your decision. You may want to find out if your school has counselors, or call 1-800-230-PLAN to be connected with someone at a Planned Parenthood health center who is trained to discuss your options with you.
There are many things to think about before deciding to have and raise a child. Once a person becomes a parent, she or he is responsible for another person for at least the next 18 years. Raising a child involves a major commitment in time and money. And in general, teenage mothers do not do as well in life as teens who delay childbearing. Their family incomes are lower. They are more likely to be poor and receive welfare, they are less educated, and they are less likely to be married. Their children may also have a harder time growing up.
Here are some things to think about before becoming a parent:
Am I ready to help a child feel wanted and loved 24 hours a day for the next 18 years and beyond?
Can I talk about my feelings and other important things with the father of the child, my partner, family, and friends? Will I have their support?
Am I ready to accept full responsibility for parenting and go it alone, if it becomes necessary? Will I have enough money to support myself and a child?
Am I mature enough to keep from harming the child physically or emotionally? (I won’t ridicule, humiliate, slap, hit, shake, or threaten my child no matter what happens, no matter how frustrated I get.)
Am I ready to seek whatever counseling I need to become a better parent?
Am I ready to give up my social life with my friends to take care of my baby?
Am I ready to put my school or career plans on hold?
Even with the help of your family and friends, being a single parent is not easy. It is often complicated and frustrating. Your child’s needs will constantly change and so will your ability to meet those needs.
Hope this information helps!
Take care,
teenwire.com® Editors”
Boy! If that’s not manipulating a child’s mind towards having an abortion, I don’t know what is. Planned Parenthood has an agenda – and one doesn’t have to be a Republican to see through it and stand against it. I applaud the Supervisors for their vote and I’m seriously thinking of changing my registration to Republican because of it since you seem to imply all Democrats leaders are pro-abortion.
Oh, the religious right nut cases again…
They ARE like the Taliban.
Beliefs belong in a church, not in politics.
We have separation of church and state.
Just to clarify:
Art Pedroza was THE biggest Jannie before she back-stabbed him.
Regardless of the fact that I WARNED him that she would…
IS it education? And why is the county paying for it?
“services rendered” How is it a government obligation to pay the costs of this private non-tax paying organization showing sexually explicit sex act’s to under age children?
Art, I know this is more than a little off base, but, If I showed pre-teens and teens under the age of 18, a bunch of sex tapes and told them how to screw. Most likely I would be tossed into jail.
I am beginning to think the only reason that the government is funding this stuff is to make it legal, in some kind of manner, so the progressive lefties are not prosecuted for corruption of minors and sex crimes.
Would not be cheaper to have the “Mitchell Bro’s” and “Pussycat” theaters return and have matinees available for high schools and intermediate schools for sex education?
Then the night showing could be for the adult trade and instead of the taxpayers funding the cost, the adult business could offer it as a public service and contribute to the tax base at the same time with the evening profits.
d’Anconia,
We either learn from our mistakes or we are doomed by them. I learned the hard way that Janet cannot be trusted. Since then she has proven time and again that she does not care about the well-being of her constituents.
Your boy Jerbal is now hacking for her consistently over at Red faced County…
how about we recall all the pendehojs in the democratic party that helped elect janet nguyen in the firstplace; Phil becerra, Claudio gallegos, melahat the Hut, Alicia Berhow, and Frank Barbaro. That would be a better start then 100 lawyers in a bus off the cliff.
Simple Hiapanic Mom,
I read what you posted as information Planned Parenthood offers.
I have given my daughters pretty much the same information with the intent of stressing the responsiblities of parenthood.
When giving this information to my daughters I am telling them how challenging parenthood is.
Teens and preteens ( boys and girls)need to know this pre pregnancy and when pregnant so to prepare for that challenge. The alternative to birth is legal. They are in my opinion offering sound facts relative to parenthood along with a service that is legal.
I would not force either of my daughters to abortion or force them to give birth. If either choose abortion I would not get in their way of a legal right they have.
What you have posted is information discussed, I believe in most open communicative families.
The information you posted I am sure is also available in the educational service that includes birth control, abstinence and venereal diseases.
Cook, if you want a situation like in Brazil, where the Catholic Church excommunicated the mother, the doctors who performed the abortion, and the child that was a victim of rape by her stepfather, say so.
To me, that is bigotry.
Isn’t it ironic that THE BIGGEST Jannie of all is blaming others for her bring there…lol.
Flowerszzz,
So I singlehandedly got her elected? Wow. Who knew I had so much power?
Phil Bacerra was carrying water for her from the start. He brought me to her table. And he is still shilling for her.
In fact I took a peek at the Sunny D and Liberal OC blogs tonight and sure enough neither one had anything bad to say about Janet’s awful vote on the Planned Parenthood contract. That figures.
Art,
Maybe because the ones who should be attacked are Moorlach and Campbell. YOu have not said a peep on Campbell’s role in this. Makes one wonder whose side you’re really on.
#22,
It goes without saying that Campbell is a Talibani. He is the guy who tried to appoint Urell to a County Commission!
All of the Supervisors went along with this plan…but only one of them serves a district with a huge Democratic population. That would be little Ms. Janet.
Joe,
I did not say the “A” word.
Also Joe I don’t think the County of Orange pays anyone in the country of Brazil for sexual services or advice, but considering what our tax dollars go for these days, I could be wrong.
And I didn’t read Dr Art’s , entire post that says the county hired some one else to do the job ( of sexual indoctrination of under age children).
My beef is our tax dollars at the county level being used to pay for services that should be in the education budget. And if the board of education has decided in a difference direction as the authorize body in education, then who do the BOS think they are?
Cook, aren’t you one of the people who doesn’t want to pay taxes? Guess where lots of the taxes go: to the education budget.
So, are you willing to pay more taxes to get this paid from the education budget? If not, you would have just exposed your hypocrisy.
Planned Parenthood is an organization that provides healthcare to women who cannot afford to go elsewhere. The money was from the Tabacco Tax. Shame on the supervisors, shame on all of them. Pushing their own religious beliefs. What happened to seperation of church and state?
Meghan,
Politicians do what they do based on their perception of who they feel keeps them elected.
The outcome can be a miscalculation on their part on election time.
The point is that voters in the County can correct their actions on election time.
Voters have all the power. The OC supervisors feel the power in Orange County is the right wing part of the Republican party. They feel safe.
In reality, nationally this sector of the Republican party is maybe 11% of Republicans. Their strength is based on the over 50 age group. Twenty something Republicans see the world differently.
OC age majority demographics will soon be this age group. Big problem for the right wing.
I am a middle of the road Republican and believe most Republicans are the same.
Maybe the OC Supervisors as a group or one member to me identified is auditioning to replace Rush Limbaugh as the minority right wign Republican leader.
From the OCR
“It funds education outreach efforts, such as comprehensive reproductive education for teens and preteens, including discussion about birth control, abstinence and sexually transmitted disease.”
I thought that this stuff was taught in schools as part of health class. Why is the BOS paying Planned Parenthood for this anyway. If one part of government has this covered, why is another part of government spending on the exact same thing?
Cook,
I believe it is earmarks-the funding was from the tabacco tax.
LOL Art I did not say you got her elected. If anything you took votes away from her. I don’t even know where you got that from what i said other then your huge ego. I said you were the biggest Jannie around. Defended her tooth and nail over many things…now you call others the Jannies and criticize them…that is the irony.