It’s time for the counties to secede from California. The large counties should do so by themselves, the counties with smaller populations should band together. Each county — or group of counties — would become a new American state.
Some news items show why this is needed now:
* Because the state government’s budget is $42 billion in the red, it’s withholding money from local governments. Now, Los Angeles County supervisors are considering withholding money from the state. They should do it.
Los Angeles doesn’t need the California government, which is a massive parasite. Los Angeles County has 10 million people, more than 40 states. That’s more than Georgia, North Carolina, New Jersey, or Virginia. So it should be a state.
For that matter, Orange County, where I live, has 3 million people, more than 20 states. That’s more than Mississippi, Arkansas, or Kansas. So it should be a state, too.
* California’s credit rating just dropped to the lowest of all 50 states. hat means higher interest rates paid on the state’s debt, which means an even higher deficit. Standard and Poor’s wrote of the drop:
At its current level, the rating generally recognizes our view of the lack of political progress around the budget negotiations that we believe is serving to exacerbate the state’s current and projected cash position.
Translation: The state’s broke. In that case, why do we even need the state? Why can’t the counties — or groups of counties, in the case of the less populated areas — become free and independent states?
* The state still is refusing to pay tax refunds owed citizens.
John, John, John, think clearly about this. When the governor mobilizes the Calif. National Guard and leads ’em down here to Orange County to put down the secessionist rebels, who we gonna put up against him … Hutchins leading the deputy sheriffs? Only the SWAT team has any automatic weapons. The guv has helocopter gunships fer chrissakes. Maybe the OC NRA has a few surprizes tucked away, but I think this secession talk is a lost cause.
Brilliant idea. You can get Todd Palin to help you with that.
I like the idea, but good luck with that one. I’m sorry to sound so defeatist but it’s been tried, time and time again.
@1 SAHS teacher: I’m not talking violent secession. Rather, when the state government collapses, the state breaks up, like West Virginia split from Virginia during the crisis of 1861-65.
@2 anon: Tod Palin, in his past, wanted Alaska independence from the US. I’m talking about California breaking up, but the new states remaining part of the US.
@3 anon teacher: This is the biggest time of economic crisis in California’s history. Now is the time to act. When the state government collapses, let’s not bring it back. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics broke up, mostly peacefully. So can the California Republic.
@ SAHS teacher. Again, I’m talking non-violent secession. But even so, the California National Guard couldn’t do anything because most of its fighting units are in Iraq.
John. Without repeating my Letter to the Editor response to Sunday’s Guest View in yesterday’s Register, you can’t simply create a new American state and would probably have a difficult time with your proposal. I also recall the San Fernando Valley attempt to secede from the city of LA in 2002 that failed.
John, let’s have a meeting and discuss your idea further? Ideas created this country into what it is today and ideas are needed NOW to make it better and to save it from financial disaster. Count me in!
Great. We can secede. Then Scott Baugh will be in charge. How can that be good?
innocent bystander, why do you believe that “Scott Baugh will be in charge”?
Numerous counites are in the process of banding together to file suit against the State – most likely the State Controller – regarding the shut off of funds to the counties. The outcome will help determine if there is a next step, what it should be.
John,
Thank you for pointing out the Palin distinction. I was well aware of that. The principle, however, still holds.
John,
Our minds are quite synchronized. Please create a Website specifically for this, and make this meeting public. Count me in. I have been voicing this concept for quite some time-ever since the Gray Davis days. We need to move fast. For those of you that simply do not have the brain capacity to see our rationale– wake up and smell the coffee!!!!!
John,
You may know for the past 25 years (or more)the people of Northern California and Southern Oregon have strived to secede and create the “Jefferson State”.
As a hiker of Shasta and the back country around Klammath Lake, I am part of the Jefferson State border patrol.
It is time to secede from the Socialist People’s Republic of Kalifornia! Now that they past this incredible high Tax in history (which will cost me almost two weekly paychecks), it is time to leave! The Democrats have succeeded in making California a one party system and the Republicans have become nothing but WIMPS for they cave in to the corrupt one party rule! We should do recalls on ALL POLITICIANS who voted for these ridiculous taxes! If the recall fails then we should secede from California and form many different states that will reflect our common sense and views!! SECEDE FROM THE PEOPLE’S SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF KALIFORNIA! Welcome Comrade to the glorious socialist people’s workers paradise of Kalifornia! Passport and documents comrade?!!
I would like to see OC secede for racial and cultural reasons. White people in California are being swamped with mass non-White immigration, which is nothing less than an attempt to make us a dispossessed minority and persecuted people in our own land.
William
White Nationalist in Irvine
I would like to see OC secede for racial and cultural reasons. White people in California are being swamped with mass non-White immigration, which is nothing less than an attempt to make us a dispossessed minority and persecuted people in our own land.
William
White Nationalist in Irvine
Hello William of Orange. (get it?)
Though i do agree with you that illegal immigration is a real problem, it really does not matter the color, its how poor uneducated and the lack of willingness to assimulate. It is very hard to immigrate to this country legally, because of strict guildlines of education and wealth.
I also think that you forget that Americans who are not white are very much Americans like yourself.
So thank you for your comment, but it is quite nutty!
🙂
Oh brother, I love when kooky leftists comment pretending to be kooky right wingers.
if you take out the communications , the fed or state is useless
OK.
The state of California is a disaster. What would the mechanism be to dissolve the state and declare each of the 49 counties independent.
Obviously San Francisco would need to kick something into a pool for the other states/counties, as we will be keeping the court of appeals, the supreme court, and a few other institutions that are in our county, but SF floating a billion dollar bond so Sacramento having no control over our schools, Taxes, etc, sounds like a worth while investment. (Something Orange county would probably agree with, blackmail well spent.)
The deal the Democrats and Republicans cut was that the Republicans were allowed to cut services, as long as the kickbacks to the Democrats donors continued . . . the worst of both worlds, you pay high taxes and get nothing, paying taxes and getting services is OK, not paying taxes and not getting services is OK, but the state of California has to go.