Day 21
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On February 12, O.C. Register editorial writer Steven Greenhut posted an article on the Orange Punch Blog revealing that former State Senator John Lewis, a supposedly conservative Republican consultant, is backing Democrat Tom Daly instead of either of the two Republicans thought to be running to replace outgoing Supervisor Chris Norby. One of those Republicans, Fullerton Councilman Shawn Nelson, is a favorite of the county’s conservative establishment. The other, Anaheim City Councilman Harry Sidhu, also has a following in the OC GOP. Yet Lewis chose to back County Clerk-Recorder Tom Daly, a Democrat who used to be Mayor of Anaheim.
We wrote about this story on February 14 – and since then Red-faced County blog Editor Matt “Jubal” Cunningham, has posted dozens of comments on our original story, defending Lewis’ decision. But Jubal has NOT opted to tell his own readers about what Lewis has done.
Why is Jubal keeping his readers in the dark? Will Jubal’s handlers ever allow him to post this story? It is now February 17 – five days have passed since Greenhut broke this story. When will Jubal post this story over at the Red-faced County blog? The Countdown has begun…
Matt/Jubal,
A challenge? I cannot imagine how challenging it was for you to stay by Carona’s side even as everyone else jumped off the sinking ship. Or to start the Urell Amigos even as everyone else was disgusted by him. Or to work on the Huffington campaign…he may have been the emptiest suit ever in California politics!
Poor Matt. Oh well. At least you are paid well to be a professional shill.
Matt,
I don’t care whether you respect me or not. I only need to look at some of those that you have heaped praise and respect upon in the past, folks like a pedophile enabler and a corrupt and morally bankrupt law enforcement official.
Yes you respect people like Monsignor John Urell and convicted felon Mike Carona, so I could care less what you think of me, Art or anyone else at the OJ.
You kill me. You get so worked up if anyone says anything remotely disparaging about you, but have no problem attacking others. I swear I don’t know who’s the bigger diva, you, Prevatt or Bacerra.
The three of you together has to be worse than when Mariah Carey, Diana Ross and JLo are in the same room. There must be one heckuva a battle to see who going to be the “Queen of the Divas”.
Sean, out of all the various bloggers and commenters in the wider OC blogosphere, I only talk like this to you and Art.
Should we go re-post here your LiberalOC posts where your characterizations of Art were worse than anything I’ve written? Or has that been dropped down the OJ memory hole? Back then you said Art was a liar, and worse. Were you lying then?
Listen: it’s not my fault that OC Blog grew and grew and grew, and OJ stagnates. Its not my fault Red County is taken seriously and has influence, while OJ is considered a crack-pot venue by all but the crackpots. If that frustrates you, then make this a better blog, which would be more productive for you than channeling your energies to obsessing about someone who actually has succeeded where you guys keep failing.
Art,
The folks at “Green County” will likely have to wait quite a long time for Matt to report this.
After all I think people are still waiting to hear from Matt who gave him the unredacted documents that had the names of the clergy sexual abuse victims on them and that was back in 2007.
Matt,
I doubt that the clergy sexual abuse victims that you callously outed view you or your blog as influential or credible.
OC Blog is nothing more than a propaganda tool of some local political insiders. You get paid to shill, good for you.
You can call us whatever you want Matt, but this blog has never done anything as despicable as the releasing the name of sexual abuse victims.
My only question for you Matt is if we are so irrelevant why do you spend so much time here commenting on this blog?
Since you refuse to publish your readership numbers I can only believe that OC Blog is frequented by a handful of GOP operatives looking for attaboys from Matty and his fellow shills.
As an outsider to the world of blogging I have to say it took a while to figure out what all this was about. Two things become obvious:
1) This Jubal guy (Jerbal in one post) obviously cares about what is said here based on nothing more than the time e has invested in responding. Its like the callers to a radio show that say they cant stand the host but are familiar with every bit of content for the last month.
2) John Lewis supporting a democrat is absolutely news that any writer of political content in this county would find highly relevant. The fact that Jubal (Jerbal) writes for a blog based on local REPUBLICAN political information rules out the chance that omission of this John Lewis endorsement is an accident.
As a side note I notice the one post Jubal (Jerbal) did not respond to was Robspierre (sp?) Well? Jubal (Jerbal)? Are you backing a democrat or not?
“OK, genuises: who pays me?”
Heh-heh. As you would put it, Jube: facts not yet in evidence.
Good Morning:
“We need an unwavering, extraordinarily focused commitment to an agenda of limited government,” Baugh told Steve Greenhut after this past Republican ass whooping election. “When Republicans effectively behave like Democrats, there’s no use for a Republican Party….”
Sean, “Green County…..” I say name it Blue County. 100% Red County/Joobal is behind the Daly/Lewis “dream team”. I’ll repeat what Baugh told Greenhut, “THIS IS WHY THERE’S NO USE FOR A REPUBLICAN PARTY”.
Scott Baugh, “…..there is no use for a republican party”, at least not here in Orange County. And remember…. you heard it on The Juice.
BTW, I used to give $$$ to the GOP, but, once I realized what the “party” was doing with my money, I quit giving.
Now, off to work I go to make more money than ever to pay for the new tax’s that the Dems (Daly’s buddies) are foisting upon us as I write. http://www.sacbee.com/1098/story/1627728.html
CC:http://www.ocgop.org/
Correction to my thread #58:
I’ll repeat what Baugh told Greenhut, “WHEN REPUBLICANS EFFECTIVELY BEHAVE LIKE DEMOCRATS, THERE’S NO USE FOR A REPUBLICAN PARTY”.
DZ:
Well, smart guy, don’t you think a person ought to have at least an iota of evidence or information before asserting something as fact, as your pals here do? Don’t toss your own credibility overboard with these clowns.
My only question for you Matt is if we are so irrelevant why do you spend so much time here commenting on this blog?
Because it is an easy, low-impact intellectual work-out jousting with you and Art. And this way, I can avoid polluting Red County with any mention of this toxic blog dump.
But for a guy who is “just a paid shill” you two guys sure expend a lot of time, energy and vitriol and dishonesty on me.
Since you refuse to publish your readership numbers I can only believe that OC Blog is frequented by a handful of GOP operatives looking for attaboys from Matty and his fellow shills.
I’m sure you would, since you and Art deal in assumptions and imagination, rather than facts.
Take a look at OJ’s Sitemeter numbers, Sean. They about doubled last summer only because Sarah optimized OJ so the search engines could “see” it (for which she gets thanked with a kick to the curb). I looked at your Sitemeter earlier this week — lots of visits to a post about a teacher having sex with a students. Congrats on getting a bump from guys looking for porn.
The first sentence of my comment to Zenger should read:
“Well, smart guy, don’t you think a person ought to have at least an iota of evidence or information before asserting something as fact, as your pals fail to have?”
Some here (not DZ) have reading comprehension problems, so I wanted to be clear.
Matt/Jubal,
Credibility? How much of your credibility has been flushed away as you continue to disrespect your readers by not telling them what Lewis did?
There is no good reason for you to ignore this story on your blog.
You yourself called Nelson a conservative hero. And that he is. But your boy Lewis is backing a Dem instead. Shameful!
Matt/Jubal,
Exactly – you can see our data and judge us accordingly. The point is, we cannot see your data.
And if I were you, I would refrain from talking about pervs. Your boy Urell covered up for assorted pederasts, and your boy Postmus is now a pervy legend. And what about the “Little Sheriff?”.
Face it Matt – a lot of your former homies have been total pervs!
Matt/Jubal,
Here are our top ten exit pages (last story read before readers went elsewhere). Note that the Harkey scandal is #2 and our Lewis stories are #’s 5 and 7:
1. 152 http://orangejuiceblog.com/200…accused-of-sex-with-a-student/
2. 129 http://orangejuiceblog.com/200…ys-husband-run-a-ponzi-scheme/
3. 122 http://orangejuiceblog.com/200…-2009-sausd-corruption-thread/
4. 105 http://orangejuiceblog.com/200…ago-neighborhood-catches-fire/
5. 83 http://orangejuiceblog.com/200…lewis-has-endorsed-a-democrat/
6. 61 http://orangejuiceblog.com/200…dleback-college-mission-viejo/
7. 58 http://orangejuiceblog.com/200…democrat-tom-daly-for-the-bos/
8. 53 http://orangejuiceblog.com/200…-is-no-hero-but-brian-doan-is/
9. 44 http://orangejuiceblog.com/200…-cox-to-vote-for-tax-increase/
10.43 http://orangejuiceblog.com/200…lus-package-return-of-the-nra/
I’m not too worried about my credibility. I’m not in the credibility business. People in the blogosphere often find me uncredible (incredible?).
Dave,
Good point. We are bloggers not journalists. Credibility doesn’t matter in this arena. What matters is being entertaining and posting interesting info. We certainly do that – and we are unafraid to take a stand. Moreover, no one tells me what to do.
Poor Jubal on the other hand is just a shill – but at least he is paid well to be Lewis’ blog monkey.
Matt,
I am glad you don’t to pollute your blog with talk about this “toxic blog dump”.
It is much better that you use your blog to out the names of clergy sexual abuse victims, prop up pedohile enablers, push hateful propaganda to deny your fellow Californians equal rights and shill for morally bankrupt & corrupt felons like Mike Carona and the “Little Sheriff”.
Yes Matt OC Blog is far too classy to mention the OJ. You continue to prove that with classy actions like those mentioned above.
Jubal/Matt,
Your continual contention that the OJ is not credible sounds an awful lot like the approach the mainstream media has taken towards the OC Weekly.
However it was the OC Weekly, through its tenacious reporting, that brought down the likes of your boy Mike Carona. It was the OC Weekly’s dogged determination that forced the DA to bring scum like Greggy Haidl and your amigo the child rapist Jeff
FlintNeilsen to justice.While the LA Times and OC Register were asleep at the wheel, kinda like you are, the OC Weekly was exposing corruption and taking on the scumbags, kinda like we are.
I am sure that you and the other Talabani Reeps dismiss the OC Weekly on a regular basis, so I could care less that you dismiss us.
Good point. We are bloggers not journalists. Credibility doesn’t matter in this arena.
Astonishing. Art actually admitting he has no credibility.
As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day — which gives Art a standard to work up to.
“and your amigo the child rapist Jeff Flint to justice.”
The fellow’s name is “Nielson.”
And then, of course, there’s Jeff Andrade over at Mater Dei.
But I digress…
DZ,
You are correct. My apologies to Mr. Flint, he is Matt’s gay bashing amigo.
Jeff Neilsen is Matt’s child raping amigo.
Thanks for the heads up.
DZ,
Is Andrade one of Matt’s amigo’s too?
And he says we attract the pervs.
I doubt if he knows either one of them. I was just correcting the Flint reference.
Let’s stay on subject.
DZ,
He definately knows Neilsen.
Unfortunately Matt was the one who changed the subject and decided to make this a jihad on Art and Sean rather than focus on the fact that he continues to ignore the Lewis endorsement.
How long will he provide cover for his “sugar daddy” by claiming that he simply overlooked the endorsement when he posted about the 4th District race? And how just how many people does he think are buying that load of b/s?
The facts remain the same, nothing on Red County.its obvious a deal was made between Jube and Lewis. Now what?
Charger Fan,
Well, tomorrow we will move this story up again and change the label to “Day 8.”
Jubal’s only hope is that Daly will pull out of the Supervisorial race and run for Anaheim Mayor instead.
Total digression from the issue here boys.
Jubal, I’m not interested in anything but whether or not you are going to be supporting Daly or Nelson. If Daly, then you should post that on your blog and state why so all these guy can swamp your site with their opinions. If Nelson then for god’s sake say so and all these guys can move on to something else. Your coy approach to not actually coming forward with where you stand is fueling this issue so sack up and just state where you stand please. Back up Lewis if he is deserving or kick him in the nuts (not literally). Otherwise it can be assumed you stand for the worst of things…… nothing.
It’s BAD when someone like John Lewis can be Daly’s Campaign Manager, then turn around and lobby him.
Doesn’t that put Daily in debt to Lewis? Isn’t that pretty close to over the line…collusion?
As the only Dem running worth a crap, Daly should know better than to let that happen and have a lobbyist run his campaign. Fire that guy!
Does Jerbal have a “real” job or is blogging “it”?
Anyone who has been following this line of conversation could never take him seriously as a party blogger. It is ridiculous how much time he spends over here not saying anything of substance. The constant criticism of Art and now, Sean, is trollish. Hardly marks of a “professional blogger” who expects someone else to pay the bills. He’s just not worth sponsoring.
Just anwer the question if you are going to insist on farting around here, Matt.
To be clear I have no problems with John Lewis supporting Tom Daly just because Lewis is a Reep and Daly a Dem. It shows that Lewis has figured out that the candidates being thrown out by the local GOP aren’t worth supporting and a Dem is the best person for the job.
Kudos to Mr. Lewis for stepping outside the box and crossing party lines.
My problem stems from the hypocrisy being demonstrated by Jubal. Had some moderate Reep, say the old Tom Harman, come out and supported a Dem over a Reep, Jubal and the other Talabani-wing Republicans would be up in arms.
OC Blog would be full of talk about that person being a RINO (Republican in name only). Remember Doris Allen anyone?
But because John Lewis is one of Jubal’s “sugar daddy’s” he choses to ignore it and his excuses are even lamer than his ignoring it.
WWJD
What would Juble do…that’s a good question. I bet he’s thinking about that right now, he won’t sleep good tonight.
Notice how Cunningham shuts up whenever you mention his boy Urell?
Does anyone know why or when Lewis removed his web page info? http://www.lewisgroupllc.net
Perhaps there was a link back to Red County just like Red County has a link back to Lewis Consulting Group?
“I’ve known John and Matt (Holder) for nearly twenty years, and they are in my opinion OC’s best political consultants” http://www.redcounty.com/orange-county/2008/03/ocs-next-sheriff-john-lewismat/
Wherever there’s smoke… there’s a gun
Sean says: “When will Jubal tell his readers that John Lewis has endorsed a Democrat?”
Answer: Probably about the same time Sean Mill acknowledges the questions put to him by junior – “NEVER.”
Sean – What do you think about Art Pedroza’s openly expressed desire for SA Mayor Miquel Pulido to be murdered?
What would you think of Art had he expressed the same desire for President Obama?
junior
Sean – What do you think about Art Pedroza’s openly expressed desire for SA Mayor Miquel Pulido to be murdered?
What in the world is the matter with you? YOU are the ONLY one making that claim. You are such a drama queen. No one is going to take you seriously if you keep it up. Are you so addicted to outrage that you have to manufacture it yourself so you can work yourself up into a froth?
Gads, man. Get a grip. Really.
junior/got the answer,
It is sad that your hatred for Sean Mill has become such an overwhelming obsession that you are now attacking me.
Sean is not the problem in Santa Ana. Pulido and Dave Ream are.
You really need to get a grip. This hatred is twisting you into something you are not. I am most disappointed.
Art – There is that “hate” label again.
You throw that label around as easily as a liberal does. I do not respect him – to bad you cannot tell the difference.
I am beginning to lose respect for you Art. Now do your usual and throw some names at me – that accomplishes much.
Let’s see, right off the top – republican hack, “usual suspect”, homophobe, hater – you might as well throw in bigot as well.
junior,
If you don’t hate him, they why tell him to “FOAD?” I had to ask someone what that means. “F*ck off and die.” That is not a statement worthy of you.
And telling Red to “KMAB” is equally insulting. It is not cool to call a woman a “b*tch,” and you know it.
We ought to be able to disagree without such invectives.
I don’t know why so many Republicans are seething with such hate. I would rather resort to irony and satire than sink to such a low level.
Art said: “Sean is not the problem in Santa Ana. Pulido and Dave Ream are.”
Sean is a “Tina-puppet” – he and Tinajero are onboard with the entire corrupt SA regime. Sean is not leveling with you – in time you will see this.
I agree with you Art – FOAD and KMAB are certainly indecent remarks.
However, they pale in comparision to the indecency of your remarks on this blog openly hoping for the death of the Mayor of Santa Ana.
Talk about hate speach – I think you have hit the height of hate speach Art with your wishing for the death of any other human being.