When Barack Obama visited Iraq last month with Senators Hagel and Reed, it was uncertain whether or not he should visit the wounded troops, given that his trip was at least in part a campaign event.
So his Republican opponent John McCain, not wanting to be without an attack ad ready on the topic, created two: one ripping Barack for visiting the troops on a campaign trip, and another attacking him for not visiting them.
As it turned out, the Obama camp decided it was more appropriate not to make the visit (although Barack had visited wounded troops on numerous other occasions without the press in tow.) So McCain duly released the second attack ad.
What can we say about this sort of damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t, damned-whatever politics? It’s unseemly to complain about the inescapable attacks, but it really does reflect on the integrity and character of the attackers, who really don’t have a position on what is right or wrong, but only a roomful of little Roves who spend their days calculating how best to negatively spin any move their opponent might make.
I was reminded of this phenomenon recently as we watched the Republican spinners react to Obama’s eminently sensible choice of Senator Joe Biden as a running mate. You just know they had snide analyses prepared for whether the choice turned out to be Bayh, Kaine, Clark, Hillary, Richardson, or whoever. (We can speculate what those were in the comments section) But the best line they could come up with for the Biden choice was: “His choice of a running mate with lots of foreign policy experience PROVES Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience!”
HUH???
But a wondrous thing it was, to hear ALL of them immediately spout this same bizarre line in unison – from the Fox / talk-radio demigods all the way down to our own Larry Gilbert. Do these people have conference calls every morning or what?
The ever-scheming Matt “Jubal” Cunningham chimed in on his new personal blog [which he calls “GUNS & ROSARIES: Clinging Bitterly to our Conservative Principles” No I am not making that up. Click on it!] “Time to excavate all the Democratic criticisms of George W. Bush picking Dick Cheney to add foreign policy heft to his ticket.” As I responded to Matt, I don’t think there’s anything to “excavate” there. Across the spectrum as I remember, everyone just thought it made good sense for this callow Texas governor to pick an old foreign policy hand to help guide him in his decisions. (Of course this is before any of us could guess how deranged and power-mad Cheney had grown over the decades, but that’s another story.)
Was our political discourse that much more reasonable and civilized eight years ago? Or do Democrats just not spend all their time calculating how best to put the worst light on any decision of the Republicans? Um… the latter. And in any case, compared to the indifferent and incurious W. of 2000, Barack’s knowledge of foreign affairs is encyclopedic; with the addition of Biden it’s just grown by “an order of magnitude.”
My first choice of Obama running mates was, for various reasons, General Wesley Clark (who quite sensibly pointed out last month that McCain’s record as a POW, while making him a hero, does not necessarily mean he has the judgment or experience to be Commander-in-Chief.) But in retrospect Biden is a better choice. For one thing Clark has a sort of otherworldly, unblinking, genius quality. Which Obama shares. We needed a lovable “regular guy” on the ticket to bring it down to earth. (Click here for all the Biden regular-guyness you can handle.)
And perhaps most important for the campaign, Biden brings his storied pugnacity, his love of and skill at political battle. Obama, whose goal is famously to “bring all of us together,” needs an attack dog at his side while he faces the rabid wolves over the coming months. As TPM puts it,
… Biden brings another key strength: He’s extremely effective when he goes on the attack on foreign policy. Rather than whine about how mean Republicans are when they hit Dems on national security, as so many Dems do, Biden has a real talent for responding with an appropriate mixture of mockery and contempt… When Biden takes aim at Republicans on foreign policy, he exudes a strong sense of authority on the topic that tends to shrivel his target into a cartoonish figure rather quickly.
The most famous recent instance of this is his lampooning of Rudy Giuliani as “a noun, a verb, and 9/11.” After Rudy rashly shot back that Biden lacked foreign policy knowledge, Biden demolished him WHILE CHEWING FOOD AND WALKING TO HIS CAR. (hat tip Ezra Klein)
(Note: If you don’t know why that’s so absurd, don’t feel bad; YOU’RE not running for President based on supposed national-security credentials like Rudy was. The answer is, North Korea had already successfully tested a couple of nuclear weapons; Iran by most estimations is ten years away from a weapon.)
TWO STRIKES
Senator Biden has done two very disappointing things in recent years:
1. He voted in favor of the Authorization to Use Military Force in Iraq, which Bush used as a green light for his disastrous and illegal invasion (also guilty – Hillary, Kerry, Edwards, and many other disappointing Democrats.) On the other hand, at the same time with Senator Lugar, “he pushed a compromise bill that would’ve slowed the president’s rush to war in Iraq, and maybe derailed it entirely… Since then, he’s been considerably more outspoken, and has pushed some smartly strategic approaches, including calling for the repeal of the 2002 Iraq War Resolution.”
2. He was one of the prime movers of 2005’s horrific Bankruptcy Bill, which made sense given the power of the credit industry in Delaware; since then we have sometimes snidely referred to Biden as “the Senator from MBNA.” Maybe ensconced in the White House he won’t be such a credit whore? We can hope.
On the other hand he voted against the horrible recent anti-privacy FISA upgrades with their telecom immunity, and for twenty years he’s been a great voice on the Judiciary Committee – I first remember him as being one of the fighters keeping the psychotic Judge Bork off the Supreme Court!
And any red-blooded American knows you can have two strikes and still hit one out of the park!
The Supposed “Plagiarism Problem”
One thing that’s bothered me about Biden since his Presidential run in 1987 was how (allegedly) he stole several paragraphs from an inspirational speech from the great British Labor politician Neil Kinnock; and recited it verbatim without credit, including a reminiscence of his childhood in Wales and his coal-miner father. This sure made Biden look flaky and maybe drunk, and I still hear people bringing up his “plagiarism problem.”
Well, finally I hear the whole story in context thanks to Keith Olbermann! Biden had been using that passage for weeks or months in his stump speech and had always credited Kinnock. ONE TIME he accidentally skipped the creditting part, and Mike Dukakis, who was running against him in the primary, got it on film and sent it off to all the media, creating the first modern “media feeding frenzy.”
Gee, thanks a lot, Mike. As I recall, you won that primary. As I recall, that turned out real good. Now I don’t feel so bad about those Willie Horton ads.
In Conclusion
I think Joe Biden was the best possible choice, and I say that both as someone who considers it a matter of life and death to defeat John McCain, and as someone who wants to be entertained while doing it. Your move, McSame!



And unlike your presidential candidate, Biden actually fills out a suit.
AH, “JC,” the anonymous commenter who likes to call me an idiot. Manly men make you drool huh. Well whatever it takes to get you on the good side.
I’m still voting for McCain, but Biden is a reasonable choice. Its an encouraging sign that even if Obama wins the country will not go completely to Hell. Constant, knee-jerk partisan sniping and heckling is immature and boring.
St John, where have you been? I try not to engage in partisan sniping or heckling, and it’s never knee-jerk, but I’ll tell you the two main reasons I’m really worried about McCain:
1. His foreign policy over the years has consisted of nothing except belligerence. He would be happy keeping us in Iraq indefinitely and invading Iran, and during that recent little Georgia kerfluffle, he seemed eager to restart the Cold War with Russia. His advisors are the same people who pushed Bush into Iraq in the first place and now consider Bush too wimpy. He is EVEN MORE EXTREME than Bush in his militarism.
2. And I worry about the Supreme Court. The next President will get to name two or three new judges who will be on for life. The court is already extremely rightwing, anti-civil-liberties, anti-the-little-guy, and in favor of ever-expanding executive power. McCain has promised his followers more appointments in the mold of Scalia, Alito and Thomas. YOU don’t seem that extreme, is that what you want?
I agree Vern, a good old Pennsylvania son from Scranton is just the kind of working man Senator we need in the White House. Joe Biden is one of the great public servants in this country. He knows how to attack and he knows how to make a deal. We are electing a negotiations dynamo team in Obama-Biden and things are going to happen. The days of Republican bullying and obstructing are soon to be over. To quote another of Montana’s sons, “Four more months!”
Vern –
Conventions bore you but Joe Biden excites you? I’m going to have to ponder that for a while.
SMS
“A man I’m proud to call my friend. A man who will be the next President of the United States — Barack America!”
Joe Biden, at his first campaign rally with Barack Obama
… with more good quotes to follow.
this is the biden who said to enter a 7-11 you have to learn how to speak indian . we dont want nobama to appoint far left judges . we dont want a.c.l.u. judges from s.f. taking on cases . AMERICAN CRIMINAL LOSERS UNION .
I like Joe Biden. Too bad he isn’t at the top of the ticket. If Oprah had endorsed him then maybe he would be.
Well, right now I really can’t tell which i would side with, but i am leaning towards obama for some reason,why? Because the GOP base is not even warming up to mccain (of course, i could be wrong) and even though it’s still early in the game, this just proves to show how we see our candidates to-date. i know i will get burned for this, but i think mccain is a warmonger. i get the impression that he doesn’t care to what happens to our troops in the middle east and the other parts of the world. Furthermore, the Presidential campaign TV ads is getting a little nasty, if you happen to see the “McCain’s New TV Ad on Obama’s ‘Celebrity’ like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and The Democratic TV Ad on McCain: Are We Better Off?” videos being clash in Well, sooner or later you knew it had to start! The media is begging for it and the people want to see some fight in their candidates. So here ya go…and I am sure this is only the beginning. So, if I’m going to ask this question, which one is more believable?
http://clashorama.com/index.php?id=191
Great one! So racially sensitive, and all of the sudden!
Sean, my friend, as Supertramp sang, “You’re coming along.”
“I say that both as someone who considers it a matter of life and death to defeat John McCain”
Now that is a tad bit over the top Vern. Do you really think that you will die if John McCain is elected?
If you really think that is the case a few of my Reep friends said they are willing to go volunteer for the McCain campaign.
Just kidding Vern, though I don’t know if they were.
Sean, if you want to make light of the dire consequences of a McCain presidency, we can begin that argument. It does help explain why you feel free to so cavalierly trash his opponent.
Vern,
You trash folks all the time. Sorry that I won’t kneel at the altar of Obama and kiss his feet.
“Dire consequences”? I doubt that. We survived 8 years of Bush.
I feel that it is more important that we elect sound leaders locally. The election of Janet Nguyen to the Board of Supes will have a greater impact on my life than whoever is elected POTUS.
Did you come out and support the Dem running against her? Did any of your loony pals from the DPOC help out? Let me answer for you, NO!!!
So before you get on your high horse and think you are the authority on being a good Dem, remember what you and the rest of the “good Dems” did regarding the First District race.
Again, as long as you continue to call John McCain, a certified war hero, names, the majority of Americans will just tune you out.
I am no fan of McCain’s politics but I am no fan of your antics either.
Vern. Sorry for the late comment. Busy getting ready for our vacation while blogging about our city council.
If you wish to join our morning RNC conference calls why didn’t you ask me?
Brother Vernon. Your news guru is whom? “Keith Olbermann”
Enough said.
Vernon. After re-reading your post you are questioning my integrity and character?
Calling me a demogod. Is that a badge of honor?
Did I miss the awards ceremony?
Do you live on a ne way street where you can toss grenades at your neighbors but we cannot respond?
“Dire consequences”? I doubt that. We survived 8 years of Bush.
Mastercard, Sean Mill version.
3-Trillion Dollar War, 4000+ US troops dead, 70,000 wounded = NO BIG DEAL.
Executive Power Grown Until Congress Will and Can No Longer Challenge It = No BIGGIE.
New Orleans a depopulated wasteland and useful monument to Government Inefficacy? = NOTHIN’ BIG!
Hapless Hoa and His Hinky Homeys defeated = UNFORGIVEABLE.
People liked my phrase “morally unmoored” the other day. But I think it was not appropriately attached to anyone until now, when I attach it to you.
Larry, you are SUPPOSED to be on vacation somewhere, out of this country. You can toss things at my house next week. And … OK I’m not questioning your character but … well OK maybe I am. Re-read it one more time. And then let’s discuss:
Is there a problem with a young-ish Senator running for President choosing a more experienced Senator for a running mate, to add heft to his foerign policy cred? If you think so, did you say the same thing about Bush and Cheney in 2000? Ball is in your court. And it is not a grenade.
This was an informative post, but I’m still not sure about this Biden guy.
In yesterday’s Eugene Register Guard, I read an editorial weighing Biden’s good/bad points and a couple of things bothered me, if true (I’m counting on all of the experts reading here to set me straight).
After Obama announced his presidential candidacy, did Biden actually say that he was “the 1st mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and a clean and nice-looking guy”? Now that’s a big yikes.
And, this piece also referenced Biden having admitted to plagiarizing in law school and exaggerating his academic record, albeit 20 years ago.
It seems Biden brings a lot of good things to the table; Vern enumerated several, as did this editorial, but they sure do seem to be attenuated by a few, uh, “pecadilloes.” I wish Bill Richardson had been tapped for VP, but I’m hoping he’ll be a phenomenal secretary of state!
“Hapless Hoa and His Hinky Homeys defeated”
Vern,
“Homeys”? That sounds a tad bit racist. Is that what you call young Latinos? How “progressive” of you. Maybe your hyper-support of the Black man running for President is just an attempt to compensate for your racist feelings toward young Latinos.
So what type of first hand knowledge do you have about Hoa’s campaign? I’ll answer that, NONE!!!!
You got all your info from the likes of liars like Prevatt and Misha Houser. You bought their bullsh*t hook, line and sinker. Shows how gullible you are Verny.
Did you know that Shirley Grindle gave kudos to the campaign reporting by the campaign? Well she did. The reports may have been late but she said they were done ethically and above board. However your looney buddies refuse to tell that.
Did you know that Courtney Rychel asked that the court dismiss her case against Edgardo Reynoso? Why would she do that? Did all the loons at the DPOC claim he tried to kill her and yet she just walked away? Why? You’re to stupid to figure it out.
Did you know that Hoa and Edgardo still have pending lawsuits against Misha, Courtney and others to be named? If Misha and your other buddies at the DPOC are telling the truth why would Hoa and Edgardo pursue this? Think about Verny. Or did that hunger strike kill too many brain cells?
When it comes to the First District race, as with most other things you involve yourself in, you speak without knowing the facts. When the facts come out in open court you will once again be playing a role you know all too well, the fool.
Your snide little remark about young Latino’s will not be allowed to go unnoticed. You can play the “good liberal” all you want, but this slur shows your true colors in regards to Latinos.
Sean –
‘I feel that it is more important that we elect sound leaders locally. The election of Janet Nguyen to the Board of Supes will have a greater impact on my life than whoever is elected POTUS.‘
After 8 years of Bush, how can you say that? There is no such thing as states’ rights anymore, let alone county or municipal rights.
Oh, rest assured, the entire system is now more bloated and corrupted than ever from the POTUS to the local police chief.
Since you’re such a huge Carlos Bustamante fan (yeah right), you ought to appreciate that.
SMS
Sean,
Homey’s is not a racial slur. Young men of many races call each other “homey”. Sometimes it’s “Hey homes…”. There’s nothing racial about it at all.
And you were conspicuously silent when it came to Mr. Crowley’s bumper sticker ethnic slur against Obama. So please spare us all your self-righteous “progressiveness”.
It’s clear to us all that your progressiveness is situational.
Anon,
Thanks for offering your street “knowledge” to the conversation. However Vern used the term in a demeaning manner at it was directed as a put down of the young Latinos who worked for Hoa.
A bumper sticker put out by the right wing is nothing surprising to me. However when a self-proclaimed “progressive” like Vern takes a pot shot at young Latinos that’s news.
However Vern has proven himself to be like those Boston liberals who opposed busing. His slur against those young men and women may be dismissed by folks like you. However I will not forget it and I am sure the youngsters he slurred won’t like it too much either.
Vern.
Good news for some who are tired of my posts. I have one new report in process now awaiting financial data from our city treasurer’s dept. After that it’s off to the hurricane. It’s called living on the edge as we leave Monday for Grand Cayman (without a laptop or cell phone).
Therefore you will not be seeing any posts or comments by me for the next two weeks. And no, I did not consider going to the “twin cities” for the RNC party.
Larry,
Are you sure you can’t take Vern with you?
Sean,
Vern is many things, including a twit who mysteriously turns off his phone when people are trying to contact him, but he is so NOT racist that your comments are actually kind of amusing.
Anon raises an astute point about your seeming situational progressiveness. This was a post to generate dialogue about Biden and it seems to have decompensated into something boring.
Sean,
It’s impossible to use a term that has no known demeaning quality in a demeaning way. It’s like saying he used “bro” in a demeaning way. But thanks for the senseless English lesson anyway.
And we know you won’t “forget” this…we’re aware of your keen ability at making enemies.
Este baboso no vale mas atencion…
Este pinche payaso no sabe lo que esta hablando…
Vern, Sean is using that old illogical pundit ploy of “you said this, so you must mean this..” now of course you were not intending to insult all young latinos or young in general (white and black youth use ‘homey’ and ‘homes’ too). I can also vouch for your complete lack of racism.
We all can have our statements twisted by pundits using specious logic and since most are untrained in the discipline of logic its easy for them to seem correct to at least sew doubt. Its time for all Americans to reject this manipulative strategy designed to distract from the real issues.
The slick divisive tactics of the previously majority party must be removed from our public discourse because our problems can no longer be ignored and they will take all of us working together to find good solutions. We do not need obstructionist manipiulators distracting us from the work we need to do.
Well, let me say this, I do appreciate both my anonymous defenders, and I am not racist as far as I know (at least no more than the next honkie gringo) BUT Sean is right that I used the word “homey” to refer to gangbangers, and he does deny that there were any involved in the Hoa campaign, so to a degree me and Sean are on the same page.
Still he’s a baboso pendejo.