To understand fully what happened at tonight’s Santa Ana City Council meeting you have to first go back to last December, when Councilwoman Michele Martinez tried to get enough votes to put a mayoral term limits measure on the ballot. She failed then on a 3-3 vote when Councilman David Benavides broke his campaign promise by voting with the Mayor against the proposal.
Then in August of this year, the Council brought back the mayoral term limits issue. But this time they tied it to an extension of Council terms by four more years. And their idea of mayoral term limits was an astounding 4 four year terms, for a total of sixteen years. At the time I could not help but ask “What did King Pulido promise Tinajero?“
Fast forward to tonight’s meeting. Councilmen Sal Tinajero and Vince Sarmiento decided to change the ballot measure they voted for in August. This time they took out the mayoral term limits altogether. And, to add salt to our wounds, they kept their Council extension in the ballot measure. And they voted to place a separate measure on the ballot regarding a “Code of Conduct” for elected and appointed officials. This measure is clearly an attempt to silence the Orange Juice bloggers who are also Santa Ana City Commissioners.
Tinajero, in particular, was unbelievably venomous tonight. He sat there quietly while Benavides and Martinez spoke. Then he pounced like a diseased troll. And Benavides was his unsuspecting victim.
It was painful to watch. Tinajero, who was later joined by Councilwoman Claudia Alvarez, beat Benavides to a bloody pulp. It reminded me of the infamous prison rape scene in the film “American History X.” It was beyond ugly.
Tinajero stated that “Benavides had the opportunity to vote then (in December) but he voted against it (mayoral term limits).”
Tinajero then took Martinez and Benavides to task for not supporting the former proposal, of 4 four year mayoral terms. Never mind that the proposal in question was a stupid one. Who in their right mind would consider sixteen years to be any kind of term limit?
Then Tinajero said that because the Council did not have a united front last time around, presumably in August, he was now voting for the new measure.
It was quite a performance, even by Tinajero’s low standards. This man has a long history of betraying his associates. He betrayed the pendejo Republicans who paid for him to join the Santa Ana Unified School District’s Board of Trustees. Then he betrayed his new pals, Nativo Lopez and John Palacio, when he got on board with Tim Whitacre and Mayor Miguel Pulido, in the Lopez recall campaign.
You simply cannot trust Tinajero. Ever. Tinajero is for Tinajero. Period. He does not care one bit for what happens to our city or to our people as long as he comes out on top.
Councilwoman Alvarez is the equal to Tinajero in overall vapidity. Tonight she screeched about how unfair it is that the mayor has no term limits, so really the solution in her warped mind is to give the Council Members four more years to stick it to the people of Santa Ana.
Alvarez then ripped Assemblyman Jose Solorio, without naming him. Solorio beat her like a drum in last year’s Assembly primary. She said that we don’t know who is running the California legislature. That because of term limits, the legislators who have zero experience end up chairing important legislative committees. She asserted that the people who really run the state are the lobbyists and the staffers.
I guess Alvarez still can’t believe that Solorio punked her last year. And yes, he now chairs a number of committees. It is obvious that Alvarez wants his job. And really, that is what the Council extension is all about. It puts her in prime position to run for Solorio’s seat when he terms out.
Alvarez then told us that she agreed with Tinajero, which sent chills up everyone’s spines. She said that Benavides had a chance previously to support mayoral term limits and he did not. She then said that part of the reason that Benavides votes against the limits was because he wanted a raise. Ouch.
And Alvarez closed her comments with a plea for parity. But it was inadvertently funny. The only way we can deal with city staff is to have more years in office, she said. You know, they could always FIRE the bad staffers, couldn’t they? Alvarez, like Tinajero, is a lost cause. Her only goal is to advance what is good for her.
Councilman Sarmiento then jumped in with his own ridiculous spiel. The essence of his comments was that term limits are bad because politicians have a learning curve and they need more time to figure out what they are doing. Really? Most Santa Ana Council Members spend four to eight years on City Commissions before they get elected to the Council. And despite that they still need twelve years to figure out the job? They must not be very bright to begin with.
Then Sarmiento said that because of short terms (it is hard to believe anyone would refer to eight years in office as a short term) politicians end up doing the expedient thing. Their projects are not sound, intelligent or thoughtful. Really? And what would one call the Pulido agenda, which appears to be to sell out to any and all developers of luxury homes and high-rise condo towers, even thought he real estate market has crashed?
Then Sarmiento said we need a Code of Conduct and he referenced what is going on with the O.C. Treasurer and Sheriff. But don’t their mutual troubles point to the fact that the system, such as it is, does work? Carona is looking at YEARS in a federal penitentiary.
Why do elected officials in Santa Ana need an extra Code of Conduct? Don’t they already promise to follow the law and uphold the Constitution? It’s not like Pulido and company are paragons of virtue. Far from it!
Councilwoman Martinez then jumped on Tinajero’s case, as she defended her record. She was after all the Council Member who originally, last year, tried to get the Council to vote for a mayoral term limits measure. Not Tinajero. He has NEVER been a leader in this, or any other, regard. Tinajero’s solution to this issue, back in August, was to introduce the mentally impaired sixteen year mayoral limits.
Then Tinajero went berserk as he accused Martinez of grandstanding for the people “she brought” to the Council meeting. He was quite perturbed by the massive applause that Martinez received.
Ironically, the only two people who got up to defend Tinajero’s position were failed Mayoral candidate, and convicted wife-beater, Stanley Fiala, and Alex “Swap Meet” Vega, who said that this issue was all about race. I don’t know how anyone can say that the Pulido cabal cares about immigrants, but that is the stupid point that Vega tried to make.
Finally, Pulido spoke. He said that he is constantly running for office. He said that the people can always vote him out. What he didn’t say is that it is almost impossible for anyone to compete with Pulido, given the massive amounts of money he gets from the unions, developers and other special interests.
Pulido then said he has met other Mayors, at conferences, who have served in office longer than he has. And he mentioned that part of the problem in Mexico is that their Mayors can only serve for three years. My dad used to say they only needed three years to clean out the ci
ty treasuries! But Pulido thinks they just need more years in office. In Mexico, they would just finish ruining their cities in that extra time frame.
Here is the bottom line. Pulido went to Tinajero, Sarmiento, Alvarez and Bustamante. He asked them if they wanted to serve in office four more years each. They said yes. Then he said, I would love to help you raise money to pass this measure, but why should I when it includes mayoral term limits? So he asked them to remove that part of the ballot measure. And tonight, they did.
Only Benavides and Martinez voted no. The rest of them, greedily, selfishly voted to extend their terms by four more years. But now the voters will have a chance to nullify the banality of these horrible Council Members.
And Pulido will win again in the end, because in either case, there will be no mayoral term limits in Santa Ana, for the foreseeable future. Pulido will be free to continue to add to his bank accounts, while he waits for Hillary Clinton to become President and appoint him to be the U.S. Ambassador to Mexico. You can read more about that story by clicking here.
Now it is up to the voters to vote down this abominable measure. I doubt Pulido will do much to help it win. Why should he? He already won.
Santa Ana insight has the video where Claudia elequently stated Mayoral term limits be place on the next election ballot. Her argument was that the issue whether there should be term limits on the Mayor should be decided by the voters. This, was arguged, should happen based on the recommendation of a Community Task Force, the Council AD HOC Committe and a televised Council vote. This argument by Caudia was supported by Sal Tinajero and Michele Martinez. Tonight Michele stayed consistant about letting the voters decide wheter there should be term limits on the Mayor’s office. Apparently Sal and Claudia had a change of mind and attacked David for propossing a Mayoral term limit of 12 years. Michele was attacked by Claudia and Sal for propossing the issue be decided by the voters or she would support the 12 year Mayoral and Council term limit.
The ballot as decided is self serving,unethical and insulting to the voters. In essence the Council that voted in favor of the ballot measure said to the voters, we know better than you, so we will not give you the opportunity to make the decision. Look at their justifications of their vote. The arguments are weak and self serving.
The attacks on David and Michele by Sal and Claudia were un professional. They attacked David’s and Michele’s record on this matter without justification. There is video record of Sal and Claudia arguing in Council meetings for Mayoral term limits to be decided by the voters. In their oppinion, necessary to balance the power that is swayed to the Mayor’s favor due to lack of term limits on the Mayor’s office, and the Council having term limits. The substance of this attack is severely hypocritical.
The answer tonight to the above was to a ballot meausure that removes Mayoral term limits, and extends Council term limits by four years to counter the no limit on the mayor – HUH ????? Yes this is the argument and vote to address the balance of power that was questioned by Sal and Claudia.
The ballot is to also adopt a code of ethics for the Council and Comissioners.The objective here is to have a means of removing Commisioners that critisize Council and / or staff.
Michele Martinez called for you the voter to decide how your City is to be managed. The other Councilmembers shut the door in your face.
Fiala and Vega are the Trojan horse. They are building a case, in collusion with Pulido, to take the second council meeting off camera. They’ve been recruited to create enough drama to make it appear that the broadcasting of the second council meeting is distracting from the business of the council.
BEWARE …
the pollitos are counted now.
will you know take back your benapuppet insults against benavidez?
http://www.santaanainsight.com/
Is the site for the video.
Here’s the thing with the 3-3 vote last December. It was basically a political stunt designed to put Benavides on the spot. In addition, it would have required putting the measure up for a special election, costing the city upward of 150K. Benavides voted against spending that money and FOR putting the issue before the voters during a regular election in the future when the fiscal impact is FAR less. That time is now.
In a city struggling to pay for basic services and infrastructure improvements, it was a sensible position to take back then.
His core position FOR Mayoral term limits has never changed. Attempts to spin his December vote into meaning he really opposes Mayoral term limits is simply that…spin.
Term limits should be thrown out.
These limits interfere this voters electing experienced qualified candidates in favor of a never ending supply of amateurs.
Art,
I agree with you 100%! How do we make sure this terrible extension of terms for Alvarez, Bustamonte, and Tinajero does not pass? Which groups can we unite to defeat it? WHo will support it and who will fund the yes side? Please lead us on this issue Art.
Art, your analogy that utilized Mexico is very appropriate to the situation in Santa Ana. Alvarez and Tinajero are only looking to be next in line to clean out the city’s treasury.
It is amazing that issues such as murders, gang violence, and aging infrastructure like streets riddled with potholes take a backseat to bloggers and shell games about term limits.
I guess having only one City Council meeting on television again has already been forgotten.
The Santa Ana City Council is not stupid. They are showing their skills by distracting the city’s electorate away from the real problems that they can not or chose not to solve.
Tinajero was on the Ad Hack Committee that schemed up this deal to take Mayoral term limits off the table. He sold out.
Alvarez is a manipulative b***h who schemed to get Tinajero to pull Mayoral term limits so that she could run for assembly in 2012. She sold out.