I have just sent an email to OC Supervisor Janet Nguyen to inform her that I am resigning from the O.C. Public Facilities Corporation. I appreciate her faith in me, but it has become increasingly obvious to me that serving as a County Commissioner will make it difficult for me to write about the actions of our O.C. Supervisors.
I am also concerned that I might hurt Supervisor Nguyen’s reelection campaign. She needs support from area Republicans, and I have major bones to pick with the OC GOP Machine, including many friends of Supervisor Nguyen. I want to be able to write about them without any restrictions.
I also wanted to be free to write about Supervisor Nguyen’s actions without regret or constraint. I don’t know how Matt Cunningham, over at Red County/OC Blog, is able to do what he does while serving as a Commissioner for OC Supervisor Bill Campbell. Then again, Cunningham never writes anything negative about his machine friends.
It has also become obvious to me that I am spending too much time away from my family. I plan to resign from just about every committee I am on to focus my spare time on my family and on my blog. I believe that I can accomplish more as a writer than I can on a dozen committees.
By now I hope most folks realize that I don’t care about titles. I don’t care about power. I don’t care about money. What matters to me is making Orange County, particularly Santa Ana, a better place.
I will continue to support Supervisor Nugyen. However, I hope that she will do the right thing and vote to take away OC Treasurer Chriss Street’s investment authority. I will be very disappointed if she does not and will say so here on this blog. I realize they share the same attorney, but she needs to either vote against Street or recuse herself from voting due to an inherent conflict of interest. A vote for Street will be a slap to the face of the good people of Orange County, who were obviously fooled by this man.
Flowerszzz,
I’ve found myself disagreeing with Art a lot lately. Why do you think I left?
Perhaps… soon… he’ll start calling me a tool for the GOP, lol.
Flowerszzz,
Janet did not ask me any such thing. She is on vacation. My decision was mine and mine alone. As usual you are resorting to lies.
And no, not everyone who disagrees with me is a tool of the OC GOP machine, but you are.
Ryan,
I hope that someone else posted that.
Many years ago I held a part time job in Weehawken, NJ. That city is located adjacent to the Hudson River across from Manhattan between the Lincoln Tunnel and the GW Bridge. As I drove to work I often passed a famous park that “triggers” my suggestion for resolving this post. Aaron Burr, who earlier had left the Republican Party, and challenged Alexander Hamilton in a race for governor of NY, challenged Republican Aexander Hamilton to a duel. On the morning of July 11, 1804, that famous duel took place in that park in which Burr fatally wounded Hamilton.
Perhaps we can end this long thread by staging a duel between Art and Matt.
To avoid any bloodshed let me suggest using water pistols before an OCGOP Central Committee meeting where we can have almost 100 witnesses to the outcome.
“I don’t know how Matt Cunningham, over at Red County/OC Blog, is able to do what he does while serving as a Commissioner for OC Supervisor Bill Campbell.”….. writes Art.
If you read closely the above statement you will read that Art is actually complaining about Supervisor Nugyen: “I don’t know how..” is the key element of the complaint.
In essence Art is asking: “Why was I fired by Nugyen if Matt is doing same and he was not fired by Campbell”
It is clear that Art did not voluntarily resign!
He was told to do so and now is in a shock.
Art and Matt.
Could you two please get a room and spare the rest of your foreplay.
Much appreciated.
Nice one Larry!
I’ll buy the water pistols. 🙂
LOl I am a tool eh? You are to much Art. Don’t forget to accuse me of liking cross dressers as well. (wait how would that work if I am a gal?)
Musta hit a nerve and hit the point right on the head! He was asked to resign. I may have to think differently about Janet fromnow on…you go girl!
Ryan,
You’re kidding right? I doubt that anyone will ever mistake you for a tool of the GOP, they screwed you in your feeble attempt at public office. However if this comment by you was meant to be taken seriously there is no doubt you are simply a tool.
Sean,
Ryan wrote “I’ve found myself disagreeing with Art a lot lately. Why do you think I left?”
This is not what Ryan told me Sean. He told me that Scott Baugh told him our blog was a Democratic Party blog. Apparently Ryan wants to be liked by the machine now.
I stood buy him when no one in the machine would. I don’t expect him to agree with me now, but I certainly did not expect him to backstab me so he could look good to the machine.
I guess I won’t be having him over for dinner anymore. Maybe his new machine friends will feed him once in awhile.
Flowerszzz,
Bad enough that you are at tool. For you to propagate this lie that Janet asked me to resign is simply abominable.
Let me be very clear about this. I resigned of my own volition. If she had asked me to resign I would have said as much.
I don’t skulk behind anon names like you do. And I am not in the habit of lying. I am being straight with you about this.
You can wallow in your lies if you want to. Unlike Matt I won’t delete them. Instead I will let my readers see how ridiculous you are.
Jubal: Give it a rest. You are figting with a man who always has one hand tied behind his back. He’s smater than everyone else, just ask his mom and his high school guidance counselor.
If you haven’t figured it out, Art is known for presenting innuendo and gossip as fact. Just ask his pajaritos.
A couple of parajitos confirmed that Art does in fact have a verified pattern of “falling outs” with groups and individuals and that usually takes about six months for Art to implode. That totally explains the high turnover of individuals on Orange Juice. Agree with Art or else…
Now on top of being relieved by Janet, he’s turned on Ryan Trabuco simply because he disagrees with him and refuses to be spoon fed any longer. LOL! Hopefully this is a new leaf for the young lad. Get far, far away from Pedroza real fast!
Anybody taking bets on how long the lovefest between Art and Sean lasts? I say it’s over before March 3, 2008. C’mon everybody, make a prediction. Ryan Trabuco will buy the winner a large beer at Original Mikes!
6:24,
And how long have Claudio, Larry, Luis and Thomas been part of our blog?
As for Sean, we disagree from time to time but I invited him to join our blog and I enjoy working with him.
As for Original Mike’s – I have never stepped foot in there and I never will. I don’t support ANY of Mike Harrah’s ventures.
I am not lying art nor am I I spreading a lie. One of my parajitos told me the story….but they wish to remain anonymous.
Art, Scott never talked to me about the blog.
I appreciated your support when no one else within the party helped me out, but I still think it was selfish of you to leave the Central Committee and left me as the only one against Tim.
You wanna complain about Sal and Claudia selling out and leaving Michele as a lone vote against Miguel, but that’s exactly what you did to me on the 69th.
As far as resigning your commission, I disagree with you there too. You can get things accomplished by serving the people on there.
Take me for example: at ETAC I told city staff about an intersection south of 17th that was riddled with cracked pavement and overall looked like crap. Within (at the most) 2 weeks later, that area was completely redone. I felt proud of that, but I believe I accomplished that by being on a commission. Had I not been, I probably could’ve called the city for weeks trying to get them to look at it but to no avail.
I don’t think I “backstabbed” you. There are things we have agreed on recently like the ouster of Harald Martin. In fact, I talked to both Dr. Coronado and Jordan Brandman yesterday about their success up in Anaheim.
But to get things accomplished, as I see it, is to not back down from a fight. Resigning central committee, commissions, and other organizations to do it is essentially that.
At least, that’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it. 🙂
Although, I do think you and Matt need to have a water pistol fight. I think it’d be a great photo op for both blogs.
Ryan,
Yes, you did backstab me. You left my blog under one set of circumstances and then turned around and said that you left for a different reason. Which is it Ryan?
You told me that you could not blog anymore because Scott told you our blog was a democratic blog. Are you now saying that you never said that – when you clearly did?
I was one of two people who visited you in the hospital when you took ill last year. The other was Paul Lucas. None of your machine friends showed up, did they?
I have had you in my home and fed you what a dozen times? I treated you like family and now you are throwing me under the bus in order to try to ingratiate yourself to the machine. That is so sad I can scarcely put words to it.
As for the OC GOP Central Committee, if you cannot fight your own battles, you don’t belong there. Blaming me for your inability to conduct politics is lame.
What does it say about the City of Santa Ana that they only fix streets when commissioners complain? That is gross negligence. You should be ashamed to be party to that. You were a blogger at the time. You COULD HAVE put up pictures of the street and shamed the city into fixing it. But instead you wrote movie reviews.
I don’t back down from anything and you know that. I left the Central Committee because it was pointless. The GOP has become the party of hatred against Latinos. I did not want anything further to do with that. And I certainly did not want to see your machine friends anymore.
Finally, I am not interested in a water pistol fight with Matt, but I would be happy to debate him anytime, anywhere.
Art, I left the blog under a mixture of both circumstances.
At the time, I was debating moving and setting up shop elsewhere… a thought that still crosses my mind daily. At the same time, it was not Scott who talked to me about the blog. I haven’t had a decent conversation with him in months. George was the one who talked to me about it.
You are right though, that you two were the only ones who visited me in the hospital. None of the other people showed up or even called me and it’s not like I’m the most difficult person in the world to get in contact with.
I don’t find the Central Committee pointless. The only way to change that organization — or any organization — is to get involved. That’s what I chose to do and assuming I’m still here by the new year, I’ll run for it again.
However, you and Sean are right. They screwed me over in my race which is why I don’t see leaving the party as a positive for eventual change. If the GOP is going to change, it’s going to take individuals getting involved and changing the party from the inside.
Have the Greeks taught us nothing? It’s the Trojan Horse approach to politics.
Leaving the GOP is not the right thing to do. Having a Reep talk about the ills of the party has more clout than someone who chooses to not belong to a party or a Democrat — because their ultimate goal is to beat us.
If the GOP wasn’t anti-Latino we could be a force up and down the state, but change like that isn’t going to happen over night. It’s gonna take time to rebuild. The only way to do that is to get more like-minded people on Central Committee and/or elected to office to be flag waving party electeds.
By simply not being engaged and bitching about it doesn’t solve anything. Hell, if that was the case, Mexico would’ve been fixed economically and politically a LONG time ago.
“Finally, I am not interested in a water pistol fight with Matt, but I would be happy to debate him anytime, anywhere.”
C’mon… a water pistol fight would be awesome! Think of the publicity.
I am truly disappointed in Ryan’s actions. Art Pedroza was one of the few people who had your back Ryan and you chose to spit on him in order to look good to the very same people who turned their backs on you. Do you actually think that these people will ever do anything for you?
A man has very little in this life, but his word and his honor is something he does have. Your actions here have proven that you have neither. You will learn, probably sooner than later, that your stabbing Art in the back was a bad move. When things get tough he would’ve been there for you, your new found “friends” never will.
As to the so-called “lovefest” between Art and myself, if that is what you want to call my respect and admiration for him then so be it. Art and I disagree on many issues, more than most of you know. But I would never stab him in the back the way he was here by his alleged “friend” Ryan.
Place your bets now. Art and I will be disagreeing on a lot of issues between now and March 3, 2008. As far as my money goes, Art will still be my friend and I hope he feels the same.
I have to agree with Pedroza regarding the backstabing from Ryan. Pedroza was the ONLY one who took him under his wing after Ryan lied about living in Santa Ana and everone else pulled away. Pedroza’s right again about opening his home and feeding him dozens of times – and going to the hosptial to see him. That’s common knowledge as well.
Maybe now Pedroza will see Ryan for who he is – an all around self-serving backstabber!
As for Ryan’s comments regarding central committee and being left alone against Tim (Whitacre), that’s too freakin funny. Nobody in central committee cares for Ryan, especially the members of his own caucus and the executive committee, including Baugh. They’re minimally polite to him in public – that’s it. Ryan knows it’s true but he won’t take the hint. Instead of being honest to Pedroza, he’s trying to buddy up to Baugh and his two-faced crowd of whimpy lawyers on executive committee.
Even Janet Nguyen left Ryan high and dry in the hallway and made a bee line to Whitacre to chat with him when she saw him last week. Then Ryan sat all by himself at one end of the 69th caucus table while Whitacre and the others sat at the other – not that I blame them. Nobody wants to talk with Ryan because everything ends up on the blog whether factual or not. …Ryan is faced with a lonely year left to sit by himself and vote alone. He also now has to start feeding himself and looking for someone else to mooch off of instead of Pedroza. That’s a good thing for Pedroza since he has a big family with growing children.
The truth is the truth. Ryan burned his own bridges by opening his mouth regarding executive committee meetings and he wants to blame Whitacre for the problems he created. Now, he blames Pedroza for running a “Democrat Blog” for the reason Baugh and company won’t play with him – until he quits the blog to “prove” he’s a loyal Republican??? ROFLMAO What a joke.
Sounds like Ryan has been trying to play Pedroza and Whitacre for some time now. For different reasons, these are the wrong two for Ryan to piss off. If I were you, Ryan, I’d do one better than Pedroza – who you’ve totally thrown under the bus, and not only resign from any commissions you’re on, but move out of town to a far away place where there are bridges you haven’t burned.
Wow we are seeing Art in action as we speak (or blog as it were). Ryan did not stab you in the back….he said something that you do not like. Say one thing Art does not like and he throws up all over you, all your secrets…it’s like the high school girls locker room all over again! Really guys should you be airing your dirty laundry on a blog….how about e-mailing back and forth to each other.
And whether or not Ryan spoke to Scott about anything – one thing is true this blog leans much more to the left then to the right. Art you claim to be in the middle….but to me you went from one extreme to the other…maybe oneday you will find a balance, but I wont hold my breath.
It’s time to let Jubal live off his own paychecks. We now know who he is paid by to purge his soul, censor him. He feels free to censor comment on his blog, why let him get paid to type his spin here? He broke your link, time to break his back and leave him to his party echo chamber…way to go on staying free of influence…matt take a note, resign from your appointment if your as big as Art!
Sean,
I don’t feel that I stabbed him in the back. The only word I said was that I found myself disagreeing with him lately.
The “GOP tool” line was just a faceitious remark that you all know I make from time to time.
As far as honor goes — I’d like to think that locally we’re all working towards a common goal: to elect new and better people to Santa Ana’s council and school boards. For that, I intend to donate to said candidates and walk precincts for them.
On a national level, I can see where some of us may not be as sympatico.
Personally, I’d like to see the GOP straighten out locally so we can start electing some good people at all levels of government. On the other hand, I’m thinking you and Art would like nothing more than for the GOP to fall flat on its ass… which is an outcome I don’t want to see happen. So on that note, I can see where our own goals may interfere and where conflict between us can come into play.
I mean, honestly, if I and several others find solid Reep candidates for local Santa Ana races, while you and Art are backing Dems, then we’re going to be at odds with each other fighting Pulido and his ilk… which… ya know… isn’t good.
Ryan,
In a relationship be it business, marriage,political,or a freindship- arguments and differences of opinion will ocurr.A true relationship survives these types of obstacles.It is wrong to publically ambarrass a friend for whatever reason.Doing so indicates an intent to notify that you no longer consider Art your freind.Perceptions of this action will then be formed.A freind you will support through thick and thin.This is particularly important in the political game that you have interest in.You are young and will learn the value of not burning bridges by breaking up freindships in this manner.
Ryan,
“I don’t feel that I stabbed him in the back. The only word I said was that I found myself disagreeing with him lately.”
That isn’t all you said. You said that Art was the reason that you left this blog. If that isn’t throwing him under the bus I don’t know what is.
Ryan,
Some people do not like their glass houses exposed.
Keep a stiff upper lip, some times you must stand alone.
Art, I am glad you reached your decision. At times you were beginning to sound a little like the typical “public official” promoting their own perceived self-importance. Being a political critic and advocate is incompatable with serving as a political appointee, a “beneficiary” of the spoils system. Glad you came to your senses.