At tonight’s Mission Viejo city council meeting Vice Mayor Frank Ury was given the shaft by his peers In a prior decade we had three members controlling who would wear the crown and who would be in the second seat. After the Revolution of 2002 we thought that practice had ended. Well, it did for four years. At tonight’s meeting Lance MacLean nominated John Paul Ledesma to be Vice Mayor which was seconded by member Reavis. The vote was 5-0.
Than councilman Ledesma nominated member Reavis to be Mayor. Lance MacLean seconded the motion which carried by a 5-0 vote.
After the selection was over Mayor MacLean said the appointments were “quick and painless.” Painless to whom? Not Frank Ury who by rotation was in line to become Mayor for 2007. This was payback for Frank endorsing other candidates in the just concluded election.
It is interesting to see member Ledesma engaging in the same practice that locked him out of the vice mayor chair and mayor post for a few years.
My question for the readers. Should the position of mayor and mayor-pro tem rotate among the elected officials in cities where the mayor is selected and not elected?
It’s not a matter of rotating VS non rotating counsel members. The key to success lies in the heart, soul and mind of those serving our community.
Wait a minute, if Ury was shafted, then why were the votes 5-0?
even though lance maclean had called our citizens racists and bigots, the council appointed him as our mayor. now the council has appointed reavis and ledesma to fill the number one and number two chairs. these two are championed by and have associated themselves with the black blog, which is full of hate filled attacks against councilmembers ury, kelley and maclean. so the politics of hate will continue to be well-represented in the city of mission viejo. cathy schlicht
anonymous 12:17 a.m.
I can understand your question. Seeing that none of his peers nominated him for either post Frank probably chose to demonstate unity by accepting the inevitable.
Sounds like a pretty classy move to me.
If I recall, per Mr. Gilbert’s reference to the “Revolution of 2002” the revolutionist won and took control of Mission Viejo and City Hall. So goes the spoils! Mr. Ury and his group of
revolutionist LOST, so it is “off with their heads”. Ury and his support group did everything to remove the three from the City Council but made the mistake of bragging about how they were going to win. The group picture in the SVN, with Ury there rooting on his team may have been his down fall. So the hate mongers, Cathy Schlieht and Mr. Gilbert will just have to show up every week to continue politics of hate and disruption.
The position of mayor and mayor-pro-tem should be rotate, unless the the next in line has not campaign against the members on the city council. From what I have heard, Frank Ury got what he deserved.
to anonymouse #6: neither larry nor myself are part of the black blog, so you should be addressing your issues of hate with those folks.
i believe in the process. i believe in open debate. i believe in signing my name to my beliefs. it is unfortunate that ledesma did not trust his record or his community to re-elect him for a third term, so he teamed up with maclean to sabotage a front-runners campaign.
in the same manner that ledesma and maclean used negative campaigning to discourage voters from going to the polls, the immaturity and the loathing displayed towards public comments by council members discourages public debate. i cherish open dialogue and i will continue to voice my concerns about issues that matter to me and i would like to encourage more in the community to do the same. cathy schlicht
Anonymous #6.
Not knowing who you are how can the other readers give you any credibility regarding your accusations of my bragging about the removal of the three Mission Viejo incumbents?
Until and unless you visit the Wizard of Oz, and get some courage to identify yourself, I will not take your bait and debate what really happened in the MV city council race.
And Mr No-name. As to my appearances at city council meetings there are many that would refute your comments as to my contributions to our city.
But again. Go and hide behind your black veil so you can continue to take pot shots like the terrorist you are acting like.
I love it when you again, divert attention away from the topic. My question was simple enough for a simpleton like yourself to understand. Should the post of honorary mayor and mayor pro-tem be rotated or not? I would agree with another writer in that councilman Frank Ury took a risk in this election and is now paying the price for his actions.
i, too, strayed from larry’s original question. as a citizen, i opposed maclean’s appointment as mayor because he called our citizens racists and bigots.
so i question how can this council now justify their actions to oppose ury’s rotation based on his expression of his beliefs. i guess this council has zero tolerance for criticism of their performance. our freedom of speech is protected by the first amendment – except at city hall.
should the position be rotated or not? yes, as long as the member is in good standing with the community and is not being rejected out of spitefulness, vindictiveness or revenge.
i do believe that ury was excluded based on a personal vendetta or a feud. let’s look at the larger picture. ledesma and maclean ran a negative campaign against a front-runner candidate which will have a chilling effect on any future citizens volunteering to run for office. now the council has blackballed or ostracized ury for not playing ball, which will have a chilling effect on future newcomers expressing their views. do you see a pattern of intimidation here? cathy schlicht
Mrs. schliht, I did not see you printing your death and destruction when Mike Corona lowered the boom on Bill Hunt after Bill lost his race to Mike. Maybe you should write a blog note to Mike with your view point. And I don’t believe Mr. Ury was excluded based on a personal vendetta, but rather he can not be trusted. Since Mr. Ury is no longer with Intel and he is going to become a lobbyist, maybe it is time for him to set up shop in Anaheim.
Frank Ury took a risk. he attempted to take over the council and he lost. He is now paying the price. So what. This is the way the game is played. Does anyone think if Ury won that he wouldnt have done the same thing to Gail Reavis? Frank Ury has broken every committee or board he has ever been on. It appears his bosses at Intel feel the same way.
anonymouse # 11
why don’t you publicly stand up for lt hunt by signing your name to your post ???
at one time i had lt. hunts’ cell phone number. i found him to be a man of his word. not only have i forwarded comments to the ocregister condemning sheriff carona’s campaign retribution against hunt, i have also posted comments, questioning the use of deadly force in the violent death of 18 year-old ashley macdonald; i have opposed carona’s tax-funded survey and i have written in support of the grand jury’s recommendation for citizen oversight over the orange county law enforcement agencies; i have thanked steve greenhut for speaking for many who do not have the courage to question the policy of police services.
to those who prefer to cowardly hide behind a cloak of anonymity, you want your voices to be heard but do not want to be judged, because you are afraid to be challenged and do not want to be held accountable. if you do not have the courage or the conviction to sign your name, at least show some respect to the readers by making comments that are substantive and factual. cathy schlicht
Hey Larry, who did you elect this year in Mission Viejo?
anonymous 3:55 p.m.
Get a life. No individual elects members to any post. It takes a majority of the voters and you know it. Don’t waste legitimate contributors time scrolling through your nonsense to raise topic related valid commentary.
Your ongoing postings are a sleazy attempt to turn this respected blog into a tabloid. I won’t play your silly game much longer.
Merry Christmas,
Larry
Lighten up Larry. The position of Mayor should be rotated but in this instance, not. Frank Ury does not appear to have any support on the council and therefore would not be able to accomplish much as Mayor.He had a unique opportunity to bring people togther but he lost that with his petty bickering with reavis, then maclean, then ledesma, then kelly. Ury has proven himself a great agitator but is lacking as a leader.