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Talk about dripping incrementalization.
At the last OCWD meeting Feb. 3, long-suffering hardworking staff did as they were instructed to by the politicians on their Board, coming back with and reporting on eight different schemes for distributing Poseidon’s expensive, unwanted, desalinated water across various swaths of the north county.
Ranging in price from $107 million to $305 million – because we the taxpaying ratepayers will be on the hook for building the distribution system – options 1a, 1b, 1c, 1d, 2a, 2b, 3 and 4 involved scenarios ranging from:
- building new pipelines, injection wells, and pump stations, all the way up the Aquifer from HB to Anaheim, to yes, pump all that expensive desal water back into the ground …
to …
- selling directly to water “producers” (the smaller districts across the county) – who have not yet shown much interest in this overpriced water, except in development-crazed SOI (South Of Irvine), and will also need plenty of taxpayer-provided pipelines and pumps.
“Incrementalization,” we call that, when we tell the authorities, “No, we don’t want to get screwed,” and the authorities respond “Yes, yes, we hear you; now let’s have a dialogue on exactly HOW you will be getting screwed – this way or that way, or would you prefer this other way?” And the “whether or not” disappears by design.
Several speakers (all but two of whom were anti-Poseidon), and one of the three anti-Poseidon OCWD members, decried the lack of an Option 5 – a “Hey, how about we take care of our water needs WITHOUT Poseidon’s dubious help?” option. The establishment’s strategy is to treat this boondoggle as a done deal, and make opposition to it seem fringe, nutty, irresponsible. But a funny and dramatic thing happened on the way to the end of the slide show:
“Dude, where’s my Demand?”
Director Dewane now has a special toothy sneer he uses while listening to speakers he thinks little of, but we haven’t caught it on camera yet. Has he had dental work that he is showing off?
Suddenly board member and Poseidon dead-ender Shawn Dewane (left) was up in arms, soon to be followed by his equally zealous colleagues Steve Sheldon and Cathy Green. What were these worthies so upset about? They were upset about the second purple column, on the right, on the two charts below, showing what our water agencies estimate to be the area’s water demand twenty years from now. And they were upset because it was so LOW! Much lower than they had always thought! 435,000 Acre Feet? They wanted to see at least 448,000, even 500,000 would be great!
Wait, shouldn’t it be a GOOD thing that our future water demand is lower than many expected? No, not for water officials who have somehow equated their own interests with that of Poseidon Resources; it’s hell of BAD for them, because it makes it MUCH HARDER to convince the public that this desal plant is necessary. So they bitched and bellyached and remonstrated with staff, but to no avail – 435,000 was a solid well-founded figure taken from MWDOC (Municipal Water District of OC.)
Debbie Cook has been pointing out for years – and wrote about it on this blog last March – that due to laziness, habit and a general bias in favor of endless growth, most water districts including our own have nearly always estimated future water demand WAY on the high end. Wrote Deb, “nationwide, urban water consumption is responding to practices that are driving down per capita consumption, including the price of water, frequency of billing, changing demographics, housing types, the extent of adoption of efficient technologies, conservation, and the effect of education and public attitude.”
The two charts below, the first leaving out Poseidon’s water and the second including it, make it clear that we don’t need Poseidon now, and while we’ll probably need a little more water by 2036, better solutions will be available by then.
And yes, San Diego IS dumping Poseidon water.
Many of us, including the three Poseidon skeptics on the Board (Anthony, Yoh, Flory) have made the commonsense suggestion that we at least wait a few years to see how things shake out with Poseidon’s comparable plant just recently come on line down in Carlsbad. Not so much to see if the mechanics works out to convert sea to fresh water, as the many other things that could go wrong, economically and environmentally, that could make San Diego regret its decision and give us pause.
Water-glutted San Diego has been dumping its expensive Poseidon water into this lovely reservoir near Chula Vista, where it’ll someday have to be treated again.
Sure enough, as the Voice of San Diego reported last week in an article called “San Diego’s Oversupply of Water Reaches a New Absurd Level” (which we also discussed here), our unfortunate, suddenly-water-glutted, neighboring county has been dumping Poseidon water into the Otay Lake reservoir, where it’ll have to be treated again some day – and they can’t tell Poseidon to turn off the spigot because they signed a “take-or-pay” contract with them, where they have to pay for the water when they need it and when they don’t – the same sort of contract most of our OCWD Board is eager to sign US onto!
Several speakers brought this up at the meeting, and when Poseidon VP Scott Maloni – one of the only two pro-Poseidon speakers – came to the stand, he dismissed the story in a disingenuous and nonsensical way, by pointing out that San Diego still continues to take their water. Which of course San Diego is required to do.
Let us not go down San Diego’s path.
The Vast Distance from Democracy
A decision this big, like, say, whether or not to build a billion-dollar plant on our shore, near an earthquake fault and right in the path of expected sea level rise, tearing up six to ten miles of HB streets for the new gargantuan pipelines at hundreds of millions of taxpayer expense, and committing to buy this expensive water for fifty years when we need it and when we don’t, while killing 80 million fish larvae a day, creating a dead zone of brine along our beach, and pumping epic amounts of greenhouse gases into the sky … do you think a decision that big should be made by We The People of HB and OC, or by our trusted representatives behind the scenes?
Just sayin’, cuz you should really check out some of these “trusted representatives.” I get the argument for representative democracy, but these men and women are not all the impartial, publicly-minded “experts” you might assume, and to a large extent most of them don’t give a damn what you and I think. A little bit of time and study and most of us could understand as much about water policy as these politicians and water officials do. Main difference being, you and I never got campaign contributions, wined, dined, and our butts kissed, by Poseidon Resources, which has spent $50 million on lobbying for this project over the last dozen years. (Just assume that every politician listed below has enjoyed the company’s largesse, it’s hard to find a pro-Poseidon politician that hasn’t.)
HB council true believers Hansen, Bohr, Coerper and Green.
EXHIBIT ONE – the Huntington Beach City Councils of 2005 and 2010. By 2012 and ’14, Surf City voters had wised up and elected more honest and accountable councils which would have given the water pirates their walking papers, but by then it was too late – kleptocrats like Keith Bohr, Don Hansen and Cathy Green (now on OCWD) and clueless GOP followers like Joe Carchio, Devin Dwyer and Gil Coerper had given away the keys to the beach for campaign contributions and a few promises to the town that are now reneged on.
EXHIBIT TWO – the California Coastal Commission – all appointees, whom we had thought of as possibly our last line of defense, as it’s up to them whether or not to okay Poseidon’s sealife-slaughtering open intakes when they come back to them in May complaining that the preferred subsurface intakes are “infeasible” (i.e. will eat into Poseidon’s profits unacceptably.) This Commission is tasked with protecting the coast, NOT with encouraging development and construction jobs, but Governor Brown’s four appointees have made a mockery of their environmental mandate, and it’s got to be a bad sign that the Commission has just fired its very conscientious and independent Executive Director Charles Lester, over great public outcry. And nobody doubts that Poseidon’s lobbying accomplished that coup.
EXHIBIT THREE – four of our five County Supervisors (all but Andrew Do, whom I have to thank and question) who just had to take a break from their regular regimen of misrule when they heard about the drop in anticipated water demand discussed above, and, at the behest of the most un-rocket-scientist-like Supervisor Michelle Steele, re-affirmed their support for the boondoggle at last week’s meeting. Gee thanks Shawn, Todd, Michelle and Lisa, now BUTT OUT.
OCWD’s Poseidon Seven, who approved last year’s term sheet. Top row – 2014 campaign lucre recipients Nguyen, Sheldon and Dewane. Bottom row – fellow travellers Bilodeau, Sidhu (now replaced by Brandman), Reyna and Green.
The OC Water District, fulfilling the essential role of “who will actually agree to BUY this unneeded water.” is an especially frustrating group. And I fear the feeling is mutual – they have had to get accustomed to being mobbed by angry citizens the last couple of years. FOUR of these directors are APPOINTED by the city councils they sit on (or sat on at the time of their appointment.) We got lucky when Fullerton sent us Jan Flory; much less so when Orange sent us the VERY in-Poseidon’s-pocket Denis Bilodeau or when Santa Ana sent us the painfully out-of-his-depth Roman Reyna. Anaheim just recently replaced Poseidon dead-ender Harry Sidhu with Jordan Brandman (Mayor Tait would have preferred the honest conservative James Vanderbilt, but as usual he was outvoted by Anaheim’s kleptos.) It’s hard to have higher-than-abysmal expectations for Jordan, for those of us who have watched him for a number of years, but Ms. Flory councils patience and forbearance, and says she will explain things to him. (We hope she is more persuasive than Sharon Quirk-Silva was when SHE tried to talk sense into Jordan on district sequencing.)
The other SIX of these directors are ELECTED every two years to four-year overlapping terms; in 2014 despite the efforts of us Davids, the Goliath Poseidon got all three of their candidates in soundly – Shawn Dewane, Steve Sheldon, and Dina Nguyen, the latter who’d promised to keep a skeptical mind about Poseidon, but immediately fell into line after being elected MOSTLY with Poseidon money laundered through Dave Gilliard’s CA HOA. How many of the tiny minority of OC citizens who bothered to vote on these races knew they were voting for Poseidon, or knew much about that issue? Surely not most.
This year three more are up for re-election, and two of them are Poseidon skeptics who can probably expect the company to run someone against them – the honest Roger Yoh (representing Buena Park, La Palma, Placentia, Yorba Linda & parts of Cypress) and good old Phil Anthony (representing Seal Beach, Huntington Harbour, Westminster and western Garden Grove.) Phil, whom we interviewed here last year, has been a public servant in this county since the 1960’s and isn’t sure if he’ll run again. But we can’t afford to lose another Poseidon skeptic from the Board, WE NEED TWO MORE.
Finally, Poseidon has no better friend in government than former HB councilwoman and current OCWD chairwoman Cathy Green, who has had the opportunity to roll out red carpets for her patrons several times and has never let them down. While OCWD was assuring us that their approval of a term sheet was just “tentative” and “not set in stone,” Chairwoman Cathy was out at Coastal Commission assuring them that Poseidon DID have a buyer, OCWD. Somehow this lady just keeps getting elected, but we can only hope that somebody brilliant runs against her this time around.
From the talk at February 3’s meeting, this incrementalization will continue till a year from June before it really hits a point of no return. Let’s hope that Jan Flory is right that she can change two minds on the board, and let’s do our best to get Roger and Phil re-elected and Cathy defeated. Any other brilliant suggestions? We are all ears.
OC Weekly’s depiction of the deity.
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Some of our previous coverage:
- HB Council Respectfully Asks Coastal Commission to Shitcan Poseidon. (July 2013)
- Poseidon Runs Headlong into Infiltration Gallery (report on Nov 2013 Coastal Commission hearing)
- Poseidon’s Water Boy: Matt Harper Quietly Pushes Desal Scam Past Ratepayers. (May 2014)
- OCWD’s Sheldon Clams Up on Poseidon Vote, Flory Shakes Things Up! (June 2014)
- Who owns the OCWD, you or Poseidon? YOU DO! Remind them, tonight! (June 2014)
- Unpacking Poseidon’s Latest Propaganda Blitz with Debbie Cook. Pt 1: The CNN Puff Piece. (June 2014)
- Recent Poseidon-Probolsky Push-Poll Threatens Candidates and Misleads Voters. (Nov. 2014)
- Sheldon’s Unethical Culture Challenged by Legal Complaint (Dec. 2014)
- Poseidon & OCWD Bring their Snake-Oil Show to the Pumpers Tomorrow (Dec. 2014)
- Surfin’ Sheldon, Little Lost Dina, Righteous Flory – What You’ve Been Missing at OCWD! (Jan. 2015)
- Poseidon Update: OCWD “just sticks the tip in…” (Jan. 2015)
- Sheldon Says “Suck it Surf City!” The Poseidon Shill is also Behind our High Density Development. (Feb. 2015)
- OCWD’s Forecast for the Future: Cloudy with a Huge Chance of Error. (March 2015)
- Pat Bates Baits Us with Bogus Doomsday Drought Scenario. (March 2015)
- Swan Song for Poseidon? A Blast of Truth from Irvine’s Peer Swan. (March 2015)
- Cage Rattled Hard, OCWD Dons Fig Leaf Before Marrying Poseidon. (April 2015)
- Our Celebrated Groundwater Replenishment System Steals Poseidon’s Lunch Money. (April 2015)
- OCWD profile #1: Phil Anthony, the Quiet Skeptic. (April 2015)
- Showdown at the OCWD Corral Nears, R4RD launches Volley. (May 2015)
- The Poseidon Adventure Sails On! (May 2015)
- Dina Nguyen Stands Up Garden Grove, Skips Fascinating Poseidon Forum. (May 2015)
- Will OCWD be Shipwrecked by Mermaids? (June 2015)
- Cathy Green Falsely Carries Poseidon Water to Coastal Commission (June 2015)
- Watch Poseidon Joke over Proposed Property Tax Increase to fund their “Privately Funded” Desal Project. (July 2015)
- Bao Stands for Garden Grove Against Poseidon, the rest of Council Waffles. (July 2015)
- Phan is the Man – who Stopped this and Needs to Start it Again! (July 2015)
- OC Can Do Desal Better – Use Salt to Lock Up CO2 Emissions. (August 2015)
- San Diego Has Too Much Water – but is Paying $1 Billion for Their Poseidon Plant. (Dec. 2015)
*Thank goodness they have and had actuarial tables that explain what the projected tidal rise for major projects….including Three Mile Island. Remember the Standard Government Funding Formula: Build it today for $1 million dollars. Build it next year for $2 million dollars or Build it in 5 years for $10 million dollars. You might want to recheck the price of the JWA expansion initially…..and what it cost at the end…..because of electeds sitting on their hands. Shovel ready? If not, Edison is going to have the same rising tide problems coming much sooner than later. Then what? Move the entire Edison Plant? Just asking?
Umm… hard to follow most of that, but I don’t think you realize that the Edison plant (known as AES) is scheduled to be shuttered; which is why Poseidon came around in the first place, wanting to use as much of that old archaic infrastructure as possible to save money.
Just curious about your choice of photos, above. Why is Steve Sheldon represented by what appears to be a pomegranate?
The pomegranate drew the short straw.
Because the actual photo likenesses we took of him were too red.
Yes but pomegranates are not permanently oleaginous. Every Sheldonian pore seems to ooze some sort of oily substance.
Sigh, always the critic…
Well, jeez, couldn’t you have used a picture of a sweating cheese or something?
Oh good…I feared perhaps the Internet had run out of professional images of the players involved and we were now left to invent our own avatars as stand ins. So glad to see my fear was misplaced. Sigh…..Now…it is entirely possible that empty nest syndrome is setting in, and I feel a need to redirect my motherly instincts to correct oh-so-gently the overgrown children over here at my home turf, and if you perceive such a disposition, feel free to ignore my critique, as so many are prone to do. It’s OK, it’s not like your father and I are going to be around forever, and someday when we are gone, maybe you will appreciate the wisdom we tried to share with you, while you were busy living your lives without us, never calling, not stopping by…I’ll just leave some notes around the house for you to find when your father and I are gone, so you can remember we tried to show you how to communicate effectively and make us proud to be associated with this blog. Sigh…
But does it not occur to anyone that the use of seed-bearing fruit to depict public officials might possibly be connected to the fact that so few adults in Orange County cite OJ Blog as the credible source they turn to for reliable news and information during election cycles? Now don’t get me wrong, there is a time and a place for levity. Certainly the Bushala era comic genius of Sidhu-as-assclown was a classic favorite that will go down in history, when someday our children’s grandchildren look back on this generation and wonder where the United States disappeared to. Because the world saw the truth of Harry in a Bozo wig and failed to send him the message he was done for, and some foolish mortals encouraged the moron to run for another office, we will justly rise from our graves to say we tried to warn the world, but they simply weren’t ready to hear it. Yes, there is room in blog-land for levity. But now and then some self examination might be In order, asking if this is how WE wish to be seen by those who read our work, either by deliberate action to come find us online, or by accidentally tripping over us on the Internet while searching for porn. Not that I want to think about what kind of porn someone is looking for using terms like “Steve Sheldon” and “pomegranates.” But I digress. My point is, as I sometimes sit in a darkened room, semi-discouraged, NOT searching for porn, but agonizing over what often feels like failure to my everyday American activist type effort to make a difference in our mutual stand against corruption and self-dealing, is it really necessary to force me to factor into the equation my choice to sometimes align myself with a website where juvenile, produce-based cartoons replace thought-provoking illustrations and media-approved head shots in articles regarding very real issues that could impact our world and it’s livability for decades to come? Gee, do ya THINK that might be an obstacle to others perceiving this information being presented with even a shred of professionalism in order to take it seriously? Never mind me, I am going to help your Father clean out the gutters before this next rain storm comes in, and maybe go through some boxes in the garage. I’d hate for you kids to have to deal with our clutter when it’s time for you to sell the house and settle our affairs. You needn’t trouble yourselves listening to me, after all I am only your mother….what do I know about things like driving social media traffic, and faceplace and pinteragram and such that you youngsters are into. Carry on, as you were…
“Mom” signing out…
Sorry mom, but Sheldon As Pomegranate is an OJ tradition going back two years; I’m surprised you hadn’t noticed it before.
So the depiction of Cathy Green as the late Divine didn’t bother you so much?
Well as long as there is a tradition, by all means, have at it. Someone let me in on the joke please.
As far as Cathy Green, I have never met her, don’t know what she looks like, and have no way to know that this is NOT Cathy Green. But I am relatively certain Steve Sheldon is NOT in fact a pomegranate., so that was kind of a give-away.
But seriously I do try to strike just the right balance between serious news and analysis, and gonzo humor. Apologies if the Pomegranate tipped the scales for you.
“Painfully out of his depth”
Thats putting things kindly!
Great article Vern!! I’m beginning to believe the staff is not so happy with this project. They get their marching orders from the board, but do they really believe desal is the answer? This is the same group who designed and had build the first reclamation plant in the world in 2008. Now this plant produces 2x what Poseidon will produce in two years and the build it for half the cost. They could have build a desal plant instead, why didn’t they?
Maybe instead of building the desal plant we can just buy the water from the San Diego plant, they seem to have extra!
We all want more fresh water. Would Poseidon have needed to spend $50 million (and countig) on Lobbying if the project made financial sense?
Poseidon is a slam dunk: it will never make financial sense in our lifetime. Even if the current drought becomes permanant.
This is isn’t rocket since: it’s simple arithmetic.
Exactly. This is basic math. This project is absolutely ridiculous.
The price has gone up to 2 BILLION with a B with the requirement of a subsurface intake. Hence the jihad on Dr lester to get him fired as ED of the Coastal Commission.
Im in communication with the OC Sanitation district setting up tours of the facility. Who is interested in tagging along? Im bringing reporters from the OC weekly and Im hoping Vern or other OJB bloggers can join us.
Do you mean the Groundwater Replenishment System? We made that field trip last year, highly recommended…
http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2015/04/our-celebrated-groundwater-replenishment-system-steals-poseidons-lunch-money/
I mean all three. The OCSD OCWD and Irvine’s sanitation and water districts to show the difference and why we do not need Poseidon.
*There you go again “drinkiing the Jonestown cool-aid”. GWRS? Just ask your pals at OCWD or the Irvine Ranch Water District….how far down they can draw water from. How many feet of well water is totally unuseable any time of year. In the summer….totally worthless….all of it. But we have argued this point before…….talk more about the great Seawater Barrier Dump they do everyday…..to keep the Seawater out of the water table. Ask how many acre feet are used annually. Just ask them….if they will tell you.
^^^ nonsensical rubbish
“^^^ nonsensical rubbish” Good answer…..what is Peer Swan’s telephone number again? Don’t bother to answer anything…..learning
from the Trumpster again….are we?
^^^ Ibid.
Two paragraphs from two different stories at the Governing web site that should spark some more comments here:
The President’s proposed budget would provide $267 million in funding for water security initiatives, helping states in the South and West deal with a historic drought. Obama’s proposal would also fund a national research center to study ways of making desalination – the process that makes seawater drinkable — more affordable and efficient so it could be used on a larger scale. Another program would give money to the U.S. Geological Survey to help develop real-time water data so consumers and utilities can monitor their usage and learn how to consume less.
The Charles Meyer Desalination Facility in Santa Barbara is a cautionary tale. During the 1987-1992 drought, the coastal Southern California city built a plant as a hedge against an ongoing drought. But as soon as it was completed, the drought ended. Since there were cheaper options available, the city shut the facility down and it remains closed to this day.
Every single large scale desal plant built is a cautionary tale, especially those built under the auspices of drought.
Unless you’re in the Middle East or some other arid area completely devoid of natural water resources (like an island), desal will never, ever, make fiscal sense.
Santa Barbara was a cautionary tale to Poseidon, as was their own debacle in Tampa.
Thus, their current insistence on “take or pay” contracts, so that we are forced to buy their water for 50 years when we need it and when we don’t.
Thus, their reliance on bribery, to get local officials to agree to such a shitty deal and sing its praises.
And thus, the spectacle of San Diego currently dumping excess desal water into Lake Otay.
You forgot about San Diego and Australia those are also bondoogles that turned into public liabilities instead of the benefits they promised.
So has anyone asked Roman Tenya and Jan Flory what their position is? Has anyone lobbied them? To be sure Roman is a vote/attention starved young Dem. He has twice run for higher office so maybe he needs the cash but Jan is to old and too shrewd to sell out.
If these two faces of OC DEMS sell out, then forget it we should fire Henry and hire Scott Baugh.
You may want to read the story. Jan is the best on the board, staunchly against Poseidon. Roman has been voting in favor, with the majority, and seems somewhat confused. I’ve tried to talk to Roman, maybe I’ll try again. When Democrats favor Poseidon it’s usually because the building trades are telling them to.
She’s doing an outstanding job opposing this project.
“Don’t spit into the wind….don’t pick on the old Lone Ranger and don’t mess around with Jim!” This much energy against progress shows why our Homeless answer hasn’t been solved. Why our 405 Freeway Toll Road nonsense is still in play and why when the extension of the 241 was stopped – nobody celebrated. The Closing of San Onofre Nuclear Edison took an act of Congress and Dana Rohrabacher. It sometimes is surprising that anything gets done. Desal, like Time Shares …..is here to stay folks. Stomp those feet, jump up and down and scream on a street corner. If these turns out to be a remake of the “Poseidon Adventure”….it doesn’t matter. What did the guy say: “We are wasting too much money here!” and the other guy says: “Build an expansion bridge to the moon!” the other guy says: “What?” and the other guys says: “Yep, just keep turning the money……just keep turning the money! Hell, the Government will buy anything anyway!” The message is clear, if you get anything for your money when government is involved – you end up miles ahead. When even a $300 dollar toilet seat….allows someone the opportunity to take a serious dump….when they need to!
Are you nuts?
It’s here to stay?
Tell that to Santa Barbara.
Tell that to Australia.
Tell that to San Diego.
Billions and billions of dollars wasted to build desal plants that are either completely shut down or are dumping unneeded produced water.
Screaming “it’s here to stay!” Doesn’t make it so or the concept of building a new plant in HB any less wasteful.
It’s a stupid project. Accept the basic math and the very expensive lessons learned elsewhere. Poseidon has never built or operated a successful desalination facility. This project won’t charge history and is far from inevitable.
*The Octagon House…phrenology. Here to stay. Orson Fowler! Did we say how much we love Kobe!
*Let’s be blunt. Will Desal be an ongoing issue in February of 2017? Then shut up!
So will Bernie Sanders.
I don’t think your point is particularly relevant.
No.
We live in a semi arid zone which produces less precipitation than we use. Importing has destroyed the Owens Valley eco system and diminished the Colorado River, even in good years. Population rise throughout California and the Southwest is projected to continue. I like desal as part of a mix of solutions to our water shortfall. I like planning and preparing for the future. I like the idea of utilizing the space currently occupied by the Edison plant for this purpose.
This snarky article makes personal attacks on proponents while throwing every possible objection at this project, hoping something will stick. In the end, all the arguments sound like nimbyism. If nea Sayers win the day (they often do in this increasingly back asswards nation of ours), then our children will one day wring their hands and wonder how will they ever have enough water while they stare out at the Pacific Ocean.
“I like desal as part of a mix of solutions to our water shortfall”
Do you like bullets as part of a mix of solutions to headaches?
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
There is no water short fall. That’s a lie.
There’s plenty of water. Let’s live with what we have.
*Yeah, Ryan looks out the window of his car driving by the HB Pier and says: “See..there is plenty of water out there…who says we have any shortage?”
No, I look at the fact that during an unprecedented drought, the tap still runs and they’re dumping ridiculously expensive desalinated water in San Diego for the simple fact it isn’t needed.
They are dumping 100 million gallons a day of fresh water INTO the ocean every day from the OC Sanitation district. We could just use that as source water to expand the GWRS and actually make a profit instead ofg going into debt for 50 years.
*The GWRS…..serves a purpose: Holding back the tide! Of reasonable solutions to residential water shortages. The Fountain Valley facility uses reverser osmosis to create water that is then sent to wells in Newport Beach….which then pour into the Seawater Barrier Reef. In the meantime, the level of water in mid-OC fall to 10 to 20% of applicable water value….all water at that level holds heavy metals, rocket fuel and other bad stuff….which the Cows in Corona were ingesting and then feeding that milk to mom’s with babies…..Rocket Fuel…..folks….and you are worried that Desal Water is going to cost extra cash. If you were a mom and had the choice to feed your babies rocket fuel milk or mother’s milk…..what would you choose?
^^^ unintelligible nonsense.
Doubt this will help, but typing “can reverse osmosis remove hydrocarbons ?” into Google yielded this item, among others – feel free to retrace the steps.
Is Reverse Osmosis the Right Tool for First Nations Water …
globalhydration.com/…/reverse-osmosis-right-tool-first-nations-water-tre…
Dec 1, 2011 – Contrary to its reputation, reverse osmosis does not remove 100% of all contaminants. Reduction rates vary widely depending on the contaminant in question with some such as Benzene, Cyanide, hydrocarbons, Mercury and pesticides not being removed at all…….
How about more reducto and less absurdum ?