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Chuchua and Chumley: the one who better understands his city is wearing the hat.
Anaheim map-maker Oscar Reyes, whose submitted map is now the official recommendation of the panel of judges, has a post up on Chumley’s painful blog; I’m happy to break my usual practice in this case and link to that site. Give the guy his props!
Sadly, the dim walrus impersonator went beyond his usual flailing attacks on me and also went after our good friend Brian Chuchua.
Happily, this gives me the chance to set the record straight. Here’s a call-out from the text below for you to enjoy:
Brian Chuchua knows more about Anaheim than Chumley does about Irvine — and is both able to see what he sees clearly and state his observations frankly and honestly.
Chumley is literally not in the business of doing anything of the sort. It’s all spin.
Go the the ChumBlog and you’ll see what Anaheim Insider (generally believed to be Todd Priest) and Chumley have had to say thus far:
Anaheim Insider
September 17, 2015 at 1:40 pmWait until you see the video of Greg’s last stand. Priceless! You so have to do a post on that Dan.
Dan Chmielewski
September 17, 2015 at 2:27 pmI heard the judges made some kind of comment about Greg having to have the last word. I’m convinced Diamond uses Chuchua as a puppet so he can do whatever he wants. The bigger question is does Diamond use sticks and string or does Diamond open and close Chuchua’s mouth like Jim Henson used to control Kermit. (emphasis added)
I’m pleased to be able to say this here publicly: Brian Chuchua knows more about Anaheim, its politics, its interest groups, its past, its present, its planned future, and what is going on behind the scenes in both politics and commerce than pretty much anyone else I know, except maybe Tom Tait and the thralls in Curt Pringle’s office. (Denis Fitzgerald has some great insights about the City, as well as distemper, but little actual behind-the-scenes knowledge. And it shows.) One of my big regrets is that I can’t get Brian to write it all down. He and Cynthia Ward and probably Zenger should write a real history book of the city someday.
As part of the work that we’ve done with CATER, Brian has driven me all around most every region of the city, helping me understand the layout and what it affects in what ways, and offering a master seminar in everything I needed to make the maps except the statistical and logistical parts of the process, where I have substantial prior experience.
Chumley has made clear in the past his contempt for clients, whom he thinks need to be carefully guided (i.e., controlled) by PR Professionals, which is probably why he suggests the image of a puppetmaster with a hand up the puppet’s ass. (I guess he’s the kind of guy who likes to get his hands dirty.) This is more than just incredibly offensive: the comparison put Chumley’s attempted puppetmastering in an extremely harsh light.
Brian Chuchua knows more about Anaheim than Chumley does about Irvine — and is both able to see what he sees clearly and state his observations frankly and honestly. I have known for years now that, despite his affable and cherubic appearance, Brian’s intellect, perceptiveness, and willingness to act on his convictions where it comes to local politics deserve nothing but admiration. I often disagree with his views on state and national and international politics, but at a local level he’s been indispensable. He earned his co-authorship of the maps — which he reviewed and on which he commented — more often and more well than I can express. Sometimes I ended up relying on things he told me well before Measures L and M passed to better understand how best to divide up the city.
In contrast, Chumley helped to erect a bullshit-saturated smoke screen about the Great Park. He was not so much a faithful servant less of politicians, leading up to the 2011 massacre of Irvine Democrats, of than their PR consultants. I remember when he first called me out of the blue and started courting, lobbying, and “instructing” me. It took me a while to learn that Vern did have him pegged. Unprincipled and willing to browbeat his way to access and punish those who disagreed with him, he greased the path that people like Arthur Forde, Stu Mollrich, and George Urch could use to convince Larry Agran, Beth Krom, and Sukhee Kang that everything was hunky dory with the Great Park that and that they were preserved from political blowback despite KLAXON HORNS going off that should have suggested to intelligent people like the targets of the snow job that this was not even slightly true.
I’m used to people laughing at what Chumley has to say about anything outside of Irvine. I’m used to them getting pissed about it. But this is one of the few times that what he wrote, in conjunction with Todd Priest (or whoever other than him the less funny “Anaheim Insider” is), should really make people of good intelligence and good will vomit on his shoes.
Rotten, contemptuous, avaricious people who can only get cooperation in their efforts from people who won’t write under their own names (or are, well, like Matt Cunningham and Mike Tardif) can’t imagine that anything better is possible, so they think that everyone else is like them. Every once in a while that cynical biliousness comes through in Technicolor. Alas for us, today was one of those days.
My response to Chumley’s fantasies of using mechanical means to make someone do exactly what you want them to do, posted here because I certainly can’t trust him to leave it up:
I’m having more fun here than I should. Lucky thing that I napped and so can stay up this late! This was in reply to the bad “Anaheim Insider”:
Greg Diamond
September 18, 2015 at 1:23 am
Hey, Anaheim Instigator! I almost left you out!
I asked our host to make this pledge:
I somehow doubt that Anaheim Insider will promise to defend the Judges and Oscar Reyes’s work to the bitter end — at least not without getting permission.
Nope. I’d think that you were lying here, but it’s possible that it’s brain damage or that you’re blinded by rage. Let’s fisk your comment.
1. You’re a lousy publicist. If you make the claim enough, it must be a fact doesn’t work. Be honest please.
I’m not a publicist at all; you’re the one who gets paid to spin and lie. And “making the claim enough that it becomes fact” is your strategy, not mine. Anyone can note how often you just repeat the same terse assertions over and over. It’s “weak tea.”
2. You are desperate to have your name attached to the final plan.
My names not even on there. I think you mean “to author the final plan.” Nope. At this point I think that the Council should stick with the Recommended Plan. Do you agree? Because Kring and Murray are liable not to vote that way — so maybe you can influence Brandman.
3. You sought out Oscar for some sort of fusion plan and the kid was smart enough to stay away from you.
Did he tell you that? Or are you making it up? I don’t believe that I ever sought out (or talked to) Reyes about collaborating or anything else. I think that I’ve said “good job” to him once and once (when I was sitting behind him when he was at the podium) tried to slip him my phone, which had some records on it that he was being asked about and didn’t seem able to find. I did talk to people around him about what I considered to be weak points of his plan — nothing that bad — but I did my own revision of his plan on my own. See Chuchua 9 and 10.
4. The city council won’t support any plan that has your name attached to it because I’m sure they still remember your finger puppet play (which explains Chuchua).
Putting aside that my name’s not attached to it, I hope that they don’t! They should approve the Reyes plan. (Although Lucille Kring seems to like Chuchua Map 4. Will you attack her if she goes for that one?) I sure hope that the four who were there do remember the finger puppet play!
5. Go ahead a file a lawsuit. Everyone else managed to figure out the software except you.
I have no intention of filing a lawsuit if they accept the Recommended Plan (from Reyes.) It’s a fine map. As I have said repeatedly, including last night. If the Council chose a map that didn’t create substantial Latino pluralities in at least three districts — the rationale for what the judges chose — then I might volunteer to be part of a lawsuit, but more likely to push the Recommended Plan than my own.
6. Tell me Greg, why couldn’t you answer the judges honestly when they asked where you live in Anaheim ( it’s on video)? Your response, “meet Brian Chuchua.” Too bad he never uttered a peep.
I couldn’t say that I live in Anaheim because I don’t. (I’d told them before that I’m from Brea.) But Brian’s the co-author of the map — which is why I introduced him — and he does live there and is extremely knowledgeable about the city. (Residence in the city was not a requirement to submit maps, by the way — unless you also want to slam Zeke Hernandez and Art Montez, which I hope you don’t.) And Brian DID speak, addressing a question asked by the judges right after me. Did you stop watching the video a bit early? (It’d be sort of embarrassing if you did.)
7. Let’s give credit where it’s due…to a smart kid who though things through and did research, garnered support and won people over without trying to bulldoze them.
I give him credit for doing a good job. He certainly seems like a smart kid. Did he “think things through” himself? Of course not — he was part of a huge community data-gathering project, and that’s BETTER than if he’d done it himself. I don’t know what research he did personally, nor do I think it matters. (By the way: do YOU know? Do you care whether a statement is true when you state it definitively like that? Of course you don’t.) As for garnering support, unlike you I was actually there to see what went on, and that’s an area where I think that BY FAR most of the credit has to go to OCCORD, OCCCO, UNITE-HERE, and other groups he mentions. And there is nothing wrong, and in fact everything right, with them getting the credit they deserve for their wonderful community organizing effort. (I can’t believe that Reyes EVER said to you that “he garnered support” to the exclusion of others who were involved. Where do you get that?)
As for “bulldozing” anyone: I presume that you’re not serious and that this is one of the “say things often enough and they become true” PR tricks you mentioned at the top, but while I argued aggressively for my points I was clear from the beginning — and this is on the videos you haven’t seen and in the posts and comments that you haven’t likely read — that the purpose of the Chuchua Maps was simple: it was to put a check on the City Council (whose majority you generally support on contentious issues.) It was to come up with a map that met the criteria SO WELL that they would have to fear a challenge in court if they screwed around. I am thrilled that, if they choose the Recommended Plan, as they should, that will never become necessary. But I am HAPPY that Brian and I did what we could and thought we should to keep the Council responsible.
And let me remind you again: Lucille Kring says that she wants to reject the Reyes map and choose one that would put her into a better — meaning, from her perspective, whiter and less Latino — district. I’ll come down like a ton of bricks on her if she does. But if Jordan agrees with her, which I estimate as maybe a 40% chance, YOU’LL SHIELD HER, won’t you?
If you won’t — if you’ll rip Jordan a new orifice if he joins his coalition partners in mucking with this map — then take that pledge now. I already have done so. Get permission, if need be.
I don’t understand any of this.
If Chimpanzeeski hadn’t got cut from his high school freshman basketball team because he was a clumsy non-athlete, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
He has those 30 year old AYSO trophies to fall back on. And a lot of bitterness.
“Everybody plays.” Just like on the blogs.
Hey there mister I’ll have you know that “Coach” let me serve as team manager to the freshman squad after cutting me. That training served me well in my later years. At 14 I was getting water and towels for the guys and at 54 I’m getting coffee and pastries for Jordy and LoGal.
So he did me a favor by cutting me from the frosh co-ed intramural PE basketball team buddy. Look at me now. HAHAHAHA!!!
By the way: THAT is the difference between obvious satire and defamation.
(No offense intended, DDS.)
I’ve got on my “big boy pants” or as mommy called them, “husky” pants, so I am not offended.
Mr. Stalker, a Husky is a sort of dog, not a type of pants. Please explain.
Mr. Stallker, sounds like you and Coach had a rewarding relationship. Was he a bit of a father figure?
Greg, I get it, they have figured out who in our circle is the brains of the operation and decided to take him on. Yeah, you got us, Brian is smarter than all of us combined. I am not even ashamed to admit it, it is obvious.
No, nobody is pulling Brian’s strings, if anything he pulls the strings on those around him, and gets away with it somehow. I have given up counting how many crazy schemes he has “Lucy and Ethelled” me into, including CATER, and I have not regretted a single one of them, because everything he has ever asked me to help with needed to be done. He is tenacious when he believes his beloved city has been wronged and will not let up until others listen and help him make it right. That takes a whole lot more testicular fortitude than hiding behind phony web names and throwing mud pies. But then Brian used to race through jungles in places these weenies wouldn’t visit with an all-inclusive pamper-me resort package and bodyguards, so it isn’t a very fair comparison.
I remember one time he was ADAMANT about some item on the agenda for that night’s Council meeting, and Greg and i were blowing him off because we were in the middle of litigation. He would not let up, and hearing the anger starting to rise in his voice we figured we better wise up and listen. To be honest neither Greg nor I understood what the issue was, it was so buried in wonk-speak about fund transfers, but we knew from experience to trust Brian. So Greg and I brought it up, asking for more info, and staff couldn’t actually assure anyone that the move was LEGAL! Gail Eastman was going on and on…and ON…about how the city had been doing this for YEARS (oh, then it must be OK, how long did Bell play hide the cannoli with their budget?) and ultimately the Mayor refused to sign the documents until the City Attorney could show him proof that what staff wanted him to sign was legal. You know, staff NEVER brought one of those items to Council again. Now how much money do you think Brian saved the taxpayers if the State challenged Anaheim over the State funds they were playing fund transfer games with?
Yes there is puppetry at work here, we all follow the Pied-Piper of Anaheim as he seeks to rid the city of rats. And I am damn glad to have him pulling the strings around here, because his moral compass, backbone of steel (that likely has a few pins in it from flipping Jeeps in God forsaken places) and absolute passion for justice and helping Anaheim be the best place it can be has been one of the best things to happen to Anaheim since…well since the guys commenting on Anaheim chose not to live here. Thank you for that at least.
I know that you and I have laughed about this many times, but it is shocking how much of what we’ve ended up doing have started with an observation from Brian that we couldn’t get out of our heads. One of them was where he convinced to offer that his business group was willing to lease the stadium under the exact same terms that Arte Moreno enjoyed under the 1996 lease. (This was before the “Labor Day Massacre” when the new lease was unleashed on the public.)
I forget whether it was you or him — could have been someone else — who had been watching Kris Murray as I went on this riff. She reported turned bright pink, face frozen in horror, eyes popping most of the way out of her head. It was like she was afraid that someone had leaked all of her emails to us. No one had; it was just Brian’s good sense of suspicion that something was up. Right there was when we realized that we needed to be ready to follow this closely. I wonder if that was the day that they decided to try to make it a sneak attack.
It has been so much fun. And Chumley is such a total scum stain for suggesting that he’s anyone’s puppet.
One more thing, now that I am in a “mood.”
“unless you also want to slam Zeke Hernandez and Art Montez, which I hope you don’t”
I will. Their maps SUCKED, and Montez has some nerve to make demands as an activist at Centralia, and then select the preferred map that benefits HIM complete with the “Montez bump” around his own house, as a newly elected board member, carving up a school district with NO case of disenfranchised voting precincts, when he was the one who forced the district to carve it up.
But worse, he SKIPS most of the Centralia board meeting he begged to be part of, staying only for the photo ops with cancer kids and then bailing so he could come interfere in a City where he neither works nor lives, with his sidekick I usually like but who blew it big with this partnership. Their participation added nothing to the process, did not get others to work harder at sharpening their maps, and only brought a level of animosity and resentment (and reverse racism) to the table that wasn’t needed. Other than that I have no opinion, really.
I meant “attacking them for not living in Anaheim.” Their map was designed along lines that, ten years ago (and probably fewer), would have been standard “common knowledge” as to how to proceed. But it’s really bracing when you realize that “packing Latinos into two majority seats” implies — barring the sort of extreme and unjustifiable contortions seen in LULAC Map 2 — that you’re designing six seats in which whites (about half of the city’s voting pool) have the plurality. And that just doesn’t seem right.
I have coverage on this going back to the initial proposal by Kris Murray to create “fake districts” (like those in Santa Ana and Newport Beach) where the whole city votes on districts that are supposedly (*cough* *cough*) the homes to the different council members. She lost that battle, but not until after I first came to appreciate that she was truly Nixonian. More than anyone else, she’s who got me not just interested in Anaheim politics, but determined to stay and fight.
*The Whole Country of Anaheim…..is truly amazing. Dr. D., your passion is all consuming. This is just politics you understand and offensive people are hanging out on every street corner, much less if you really want to seek them out at City Council Meetings and Free Luncheon invites. Good grief sir……we know how right you are, but remember….you live in Brea, we live in Newport Beach…..and we even used to live in Fullerton in the 1950;s when they still had an active Fox Theater and Fullerton Tribune. Maybe we should all just meet in Orange at the circle, break some bread and chat it up at one of those great restaurants and talk about the good old days. Yeah, whatever happened to Judy Olson anyway? Nevermind, Anaheim still has Lucille Kring and Tom Tait and a few more that can kind of guide the grist in the mill. Waht about ARTIC? Just to change the subject. How about Arte Moreno, the Disney Mega-Expansion, the potholes on Harbor Blvd. and the lack of free parking everywhere.
Making the case for the recommended map at Dan C site may indicate that Brandman is supporting the Judges’ recommendation.
Remember when Dan C was going to ask Brandman for a clarification of his support for Amanda Edinger, the Trump-like anti-immigrant appointed by Brandman and Kring to the Districting Committee?
My bet is that Jordan hasn’t decided — and that he will ask to be lobbied in coin including wanting people’s endorsements for Congress. Anyone who who talks to him about districting and gets that sort of a pitch, drop me a line.
No one takes Dan C seriously in Irvine except Larry Agran, Beth Krom, and Suhkee Kang and look what that led to. You would think at some point that he would stand down and admit what a total disaster his advice has been, but we’re happy that he would like to keep doubling down on stupid.
I usually ignore the fever swamp, but I have a hard time putting up with anyone poking at Brian, he is simply one of the most decent human beings I have ever known and anyone who has something ugly to say about him brings out the worst in me.
Dan wouldn’t know an honest man if one punched him in the face.
Paging Chris Prevat . . . any day now, son. Any day.
Aw, now, why did you have to mention punching?
Now he’ll have to remind everyone about the time he got all aggressive on that little dude in the wheelchair after 6 AM “bootcamp” got his testicular fortitude all amped up.
Aw, I understand Mr. C is bent out of shape about this obviously satirical comment about his alleged manhood.
Apparently this delusional character thinks I was deliberately making up a lie about him because he is, you know, so worth lying about.
Of course if he ever cuts out the comical uber-masculine masquerade the satire would go away, too.
(This is probably the best place to park this comment that I’ve just tried to place on Chumley’s page — moderation, y’know — as Zenger’s sardonic jape here is what he continues to use to justify his sheltering anonymous attacks on his site, despite that what Zenger said was neither anonymous nor (as noted in the above comment) intended to be taken seriously.)
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This won’t surprise you, Vern, but everything that “David Vasquez” says up there is false. I don’t know who Fake Vasquez really is and where to find him; if I did, I’d be in court (as it would be quite straightforward) and I’d have subpoenaed this blog’s records to see *who else* he also is.
While we both know that one of our friends *did* have someone contact their employer to cause trouble for them — which seems to be what inspired Fake Vasquez’s lie — I have never contacted any person or entity with the intent of finding out whether they employed a David Vasquez who comments in blogs.
I word that so carefully because Fake Vasquez likes to make accusations that might be defended as being *literally* true while their implication is entirely false. I can’t rule out that I have ever contacted his employer because I don’t know where he works.
If he works for the federal, state, county, or one of a number of City governments, or local colleges and universities, for example, then it might well be true to say that I had “contacted his employer” — I’ve contacted various of them — but the implication that I had contacted them ABOUT HIM would be false.
That’s the kind of puerile game that Fake Vasquez likes to play. A while ago, in listing my sins on this blog, he said that I had called Jose Solorio’s mother a “bitch.”
“Huh?,” I said to myself? I don’t know anything about Solorio’s mother and have never said anything about her at all. But then I remembered encountering a snotty little attack of that sort from eighth or ninth grade: the idea is that when you call someone an “SOB,” i.e., “a son of a bitch” — a term obviously meant to be construed figuratively — one is calling their mother a bitch.
Sadly, Fake Vasquez thinks that he is more clever than he is. Defaming me by publishing the charge that I called Jose Solorio’s mother a bitch could not be defended against on the grounds that it is true — because even if you took the figurative term literally it could have been Jose Solorio’s *father* that I would have been calling a “bitch.”
Also, for the record: I don’t recall the Weekly ever using the term “Crazy Greg” for me (although who knows); Doug Pettibone never punched anyone (at least in any situation resembling anything claimed here); he, Jose Moreno, and CATER have been as transparent as required by law; and the “David Vasquez” persona here has not always been transparent, or I *would* know who he was and would be in earnest communication with him.
Transitioning slightly: one thing that I like about this site’s use of avatars, by the way, is that you can see how many different accounts Fake Vasquez and others use.) And you can see when the email address associated with a given avatar also appears associated with some other person’s name.
But what other readers may not understand is that the use of these fictitious personas in designed to leave the target of their attacks wondering who is behind them — and ideally to poison the target’s social relationships by raising the possibility that anyone may be the source of such attacks. It’s a cruel attempt to intentionally inflict emotional distress in the target, to use a term of art.
The host of this site often harks back to a statement once published in Vern’s blog where David Zenger, in a sardonic comment on our host’s hypermasculinity, japed in response to Ryan Cantor’s assertion that our host “wouldn’t know an honest man if one punched him in the face”: “Aw, now, why did you have to mention punching? Now he’ll have to remind everyone about the time he got all aggressive on that little dude in the wheelchair after 6 AM ‘bootcamp’ got his testicular fortitude all amped up.”
Zenger clarified a few days later: “Aw, I understand Mr. C is bent out of shape about this obviously satirical comment about his alleged manhood.” Not a polite retraction, but enough to clarify that he was not asserting that our host ever assaulted anyone in a wheelchair. Nevertheless, our host has continued to cite Zenger’s remark as a way of justifying all sorts of vicious (and un-retracted) ACTUAL defamation on this site — despite that if he felt that Zenger was serious he could have easily located him and either sued him for defamation or challenged him to a fistfight, depending on how well boot camp was proceeding.
Zenger continued: “Apparently this delusional character thinks I was deliberately making up a lie about him because he is, you know, so worth lying about.
“Of course if he ever cuts out the comical uber-masculine masquerade the satire would go away, too.”
Compare that supposed *casus belli* (over which I have no control, because it’s not my blog and Vern is not inclined to censor Zenger) with the sorts of attacks that regularly appear here against me and others, which are not sardonic, but have a surface plausibility (someone in my position *might well* try to contact employers to find out who among people with a common name like “David Vasquez” is defaming them — I just don’t happen to have done so because I don’t want to disturb the innocent) and are never retracted.
Our host is a member of his party’s central committee now, and other members of that committee might want to state their views on someone providing shelter for these sorts of scurrilous and defamatory attacks.
(Note that there’s no “takedown notice” here, so — given his customary practice — our host may not feel the need to publish this.)
“or challenged him to a fistfight”
Now THAT would be fun.
We could make it a fundraiser for the families of detained immigrants … who play baseball!
I did not follow the boundary map process very closely. In one of the meetings where Oscar’s map was mentioned as one of the possible selections, I couldn’t stay for the entire meeting and meet him.
In my way out Claudio Gallegos was standing by and I asked him about Oscar. It was my first time talking to Claudio. He gave me a very good opinion of Oscar and mentioned that he is a leader of the Young Democrats. I remember saying to Claudio that that was not a good sign….knowing the recent questionable positions taken by this group.
You may remember in my post about Dan C and Cunningham, that Dan C advertised himself as an advisor to the Young Democrats…..(http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2013/09/chmielewski-and-cunningham-dios-los-cria-y-el-diablo-los-junta/
I trust that Oscar’s map is a sound one. I had expressed my reservations in a previous comment in a related map post that a Chuchua map would have a much harder time being accepted by the council majority.
Regardless of the merits of the final maps selected, whoever made the decision to have this young man posting at the LOC may not know the history that made possible the districting process. I’m asking OCCORD and Unite leaders to come forward and disassociate themselves from Dan C’s trash talk against Mr Chuchua.
Don’t worry. Dan the Little Big Man knows less about district maps than he does about Anaheim. If Oscar’s map has any merit at all you’ll know that the Northwood Nightstalker had nothing to do with it.
[Ed. Note: I don’t know whether this is the Mike Levin who, last decade, was an Executive Director of the DPOC. If someone’s using your name and what I presume is a misspelled version of your email address, I don’t want it to be ascribed to you. If it’s really you, please get in touch with a mutual contact — maybe Chris Prevatt? — and verify this. I’ve saved your comment and will paste it in if your authorship is verified. — GAD]
What is the difference between: Junior, Pinky, Dan D. Stalker, HomelessJay, Anna heim desmadre, Jubal, Rodney Roddy, YDM or Guy Fawkes.
A coward is a coward is a coward……right??????
Just want be clear on the rules of engagement for anonymous cowardice.
Fair question! Remember, the problem is not anonymity per se, but the use of anonymity to make vicious personal attacks. Let’s go through them one by one, somewhat out of order:
Dan D. Stalker: I don’t know who this is, but I think that they’re quite funny. No one could seriously believe that this was actually written by Dan C. It’s obviously satire. The depiction of “Dan D.” skews towards the absurd and pathetic. I’m not sure where the line is that he could cross that would make me want to spike something, but I have warned him off at least once or twice and he has complied. If Chumley ever really had a problem with something he wrote, I’d certainly consider the merit of the complaint.
truck drivin’ mike: I don’t know who he is either. Again, except when he gives a heartfelt comment (as he sometimes does), mostly he’s just funny and satirical. Again, the humor tends to be fairly gentle and the “real” political critiques are usually smart and well-placed.
Rowdy Roddy: I don’t know who he is and he doesn’t post here (at least under this name.) He’s not satirical at all, but his posts are fair and have strong analytical power. He apparently stays anonymous to avoid retaliation from people who have the means and will to do so with substantial effect. Vern and I are a pretty clear contrast to that.
Guy Fawkes: along with KLND/nameless, he was probably as close as you’d get from post-Pedroza OJ to what you see if LibOC.
HomelessJay: don’t recall the name.
Anna Heim: posts here?
junior/skallywag: was more of a problem before he acknowledged being Mike Tardif. He’s an example of how someone whose positions and presentation I dislike still manages to avoid serious retaliation (beyond mere refutation.)
Jubal: Was before my time. My understanding is that this was Matt Cunningham’s “sock puppet,” through which he acting as his own cheering section. This is less cowardly than pathetic. But maybe he was cowardly too.
Pinky: engages in false-but-plausible-sounding defamation, viciously, and I have no way to find out who he is.
If the difference isn’t glaringly obvious to you (or anyone else), you’re part of the problem.
While we’re on the topic, critics of the commenting policy here need to better understand what the word hypocrite actually means.
#learntoread
What about my pal David Vasquez? Should he be included in this group too?
He promised to buy a mattress so he can say whatever he wants.
Oh, come on, Dandy — that guy is fictional!
No, he isn’t. He contacted me after Vern gave him my e-mail address. He told me he is not an advisor to the Young Democrats. He is still thinking about my invitation to get together and share a yerba mate drink.
Ask for ID. Check to see whether the ink is wet.
In other words, if you agree its cool if not……..A$$hole. Clear enough
Moron.
There should also be a pearls before swine thing, where if you explain something clearly and they’re still stubbornly clueless, then to hell with ’em. The Sandline Criterion.
Exactly.
If you’re going to answer your own question, don’t ask the question.
You can say asshole, Sandline. It’s not a crime.
You’re right — those are other words. And they have a different meaning
You are going to have to pay back the money to whoever hired you to be their ninja.