We had a pretty good Liveblog for the first Presidential debate — even though (or perhaps especially because) I (Greg) was not there — so we’re going to try it again. This story goes up at 11:00 a.m., leaving plenty of hours ahead of time for trash talk. Within reasonable bounds of trashiness, go for it.
The debate starts at 6:00 p.m. and ends at 7:30 p.m. or, more likely, a few minutes later than that. Then, the network analysis begins, until at least 8:00. It will be tempting to listen to the snap polls. Remember: it is very important that you not pay attention to the snap polls! Specifically, beware of the CNN/ORC snap poll — and not simply because it is apparently the work of orcs, who may be masters of crafting the cursed dagger (or, frankly, whatever) but who seem to be lousy at survey methodology.
The results of the CNN snap poll will come from the remaining members in a “panel study” — same group being surveyed more than one time, so that we can see how the same people respond to different events. The problem is that, however the original panel came about, it seems to be far more white, southern, old, conservative, and — well, there’s no other word for it — Republican than one would expect if one were trying to get a sense of, say, debate watchers, let alone likely voters (let alone registered voters) overall.
CNN finally told us (in tiny type on a page that no one reads) that the sample, was, in fact, eight points more Republican and eight points less Democratic than the usual samples they’re getting around now, so you could take the precaution of subtracting eight points from Romney and adding eight points to Obama’s score, but that is not really how things are supposed to work. Even then, after all, you’re dealing with much older Democrats and older Republicans than most voters — and who knows how that affects things? The best thing to do is to flat out ignore it.
CNN’s going to make that hard for you to do, though, because when they announce it they’re going to say “this is how voters reacted to today’s debate” or something like that, giving no indication that this sample is nowhere near representative of the voting population —as CNN well knows! — so you will just have to be strong. Trust your own impressions, if you happen to have any.
*It will be interesting to see how many lies Mitt comes up with tonight. We should do a Super Bowl Contest…..How about 22 to start? Who is going to take the overs or unders?
ONCE NOBAMA DOES HIS SPINNING HIS NOSE WILL GET BIGGER BY THE END OF THE NIGHT 600 BIRDS WILL BE ABLE TO LAND ON IT .
*Oh goodie….you mean Romney is going to release all 14 years of his tax returns and tell us in vivid terms what money he put into those Swiss Bank Accounts, those Cayman Island Savings Accounts and those Bermuda Triangle
Tax Dodges! Finally, the Goose will get cooked!
ARE YOU REALLY SURE ABOUT THAT GRATE ONE!?!?!?
As SoOn As BaRrY o TeLlS tHe TrUtH aboUt LiByA , rEv WrIgHt , BiLl AyErS , aNd LAST TIME I LOOKED ITS NOT ILLEGAL TO PUT YOUR MONEY AWAY THERE , YOU HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST RICH FOLKS OR HAS DIAMOND BRAINWASHED YOU WITH OCUPOO STINK
(got tired of redoing caps. back later maybe. -gad)
Yes, putting your money offshore to avoid paying taxes is not illegal. It’s just selfish and it shows Romney’s lack of concern for the country at large. It’s economically unpatriotic. He wants OTHER people to pay for more defense spending. And he’s not the only person doing it.
*Smoking guns……look in the Caymans….and you will find all the dirt you
ever wanted to find. Look on Bahnhof Strasse and ask a mogul or two about
Mitt…..they will tell you. Look at Government House in Bermuda and you will
find some outsourced Bain Capital jobs and a plaque with a Mitt resemblance
a True Horses Ass!
Hey, maybe the Winships can teach the Grate One how to use the reply button! And how to turn off his CAPSLOCK.
nice try verno you stupid far left libs , here some caps for you goose STEPPING IN PACE FOR NOBAMA
HEY VERN #$*#%e$(^_&+_*+8 OH sheee cant type had too many fell of my chair gusano rojo
You’re not helping the team, buddy.
The Tigers have Justin Verlander on the hill.
The Yankees are down 0-2. A-Fraud is hitless, and the wine cooler queen, Jeter is out of the high heeled crossdressing scene for the year with a busted ankle (he does his best work on his knees). The HUGE LOSER, Robinson Canoe, has fewer hits than a Chmilewinski blog post.
And you want us to watch these two doltz’s (VN- Is that a word?). I’ll wait, watch Savanna Guthrie finish her report on Boyz-2-Men and then see who I should vote for based on that.
Greg, are you willing to expouse a little humility, I have a great joke……at your expense.
Sure, go ahead — but can I erase the homophobia up there?
Up where?
Erasing anything is hard in my experience, especially around here. But be my guest. The white board is yours.
*Life is unfair. Our hero Derrick Jeter went down and now our beloved Yankees are on the Bridge to Nowhere! Detroit will lose again to St. Louis…..and again we will fail to watch anything but the last game of the World Series. The SD Chargers had their hats handed to them and so we had to change a Quarterback selection in our Fantasy Football teams. So far, we 4 and 2 and 3 and 3. Injuries!! Blah!! How about Lance Armstrong being dusted by Nike! Nike never loses any athetlic performers…..sorry Lance…wear more pink…OK? The Lakers are looking more and more like a bad example of the New York Nets or the Orlando Magic. We have to lose that dumb coach Mike Brown….nothing about this guy is good. He ain’t inspiring anthing and is looking more like a black Norv Turner….every day! Lastly, it was great fun to watch Mitt Romney sweat through his shirt during the debates. He can wined up doing Right Guard commercials – if he plays his lies just right.
Romney wears a blue tie, Obama wears a red tie, but, Romney had a bigger American flag lapel pin….so I guess he wins?
It’s funny how GOVERNOR Romney kept going on about he has been working in the private sector his whole life. I guess that Governorship thing was an effort to further himself in the private sector.
Dang, I missed it again.
This is a terrible picture, Dr. D. Clearly biased, unfair, and just untrue.
EVERYONE knows that Governor Romney’s death-money ray is green. Gold is just slander.
I know — I changed the color! That’s how I can get away with it without committing libel!
Sneaky sneaky.