The FFFF blog has posted a video making sport of Jan Flory’s comment about Travis Kiger appearing to have a problem with “strong older women.” In the interest of fairness and balancedom, I want to give it a wider distribution by reproducing it here. Show it to a voter near you! Did it, um, change their vote? (If so, how?) If you were trying to demonstrate your biting wit for voters, would you run this if you were FFFF? (Ladies, am I right?)
(It won’t embed, but you can see it at http://youtu.be/SGE3iOjT4rg or at the FFFF story itself. Go ahead, give them views!)
Poor Jan Flory, seen to be sticking up for strong older women against such a devastating humorous onslaught!
Strong? Check! Older? Check! Woman? Check! It must be a fair attack, then!
That is disturbing. Does Kiger still have some affiliation with FFFF?
He’s their webmaster and their Fullerton Council love object. Beyond that, he doth not say. (But c’mon!)
“Beyond that, he doth not say.”
That’s because for Kiger and the FFFFers, transparency is for everyone else!
A few weeks ago, some commenters on FFFF were asking Kiger if he was going to sign up for the insurance benefits available for Council members. Kiger had a conniption and refused to answer the question.
Even if he’s confronted, he’ll spout the same old line, “I can’t be responsible for what people choose to post on the blog. The First Amendment says so.” Even though his campaign was all about accountability and transparency. Hmmm….
I’d really like to kow what he considers himself to be responsible as the site’s webmaster.
Jan must really be a threat to Bushala. Kiger is only digging his own grave. He proves Jan right about his mother not breast feeding him enough, the little pisher!
It’s a really bad joke (because it’s not funny and because it’s incredibly anti-feminist). Don’t repeat it.
It’s a psychoanalysis joke, aimed at Kiger rather than his mom. Maybe you have to be over 40 these days to remember psychoanalysis. Used to be, in the old days, that early weaning was blamed for certain personality disorders. It may be somewhat incidentally “anti-feminist,” in a “blame Mom for whatever’s wrong with the child” way, but especially when uttered tongue-in-cheek like this by a mom herself, it is not “incredibly” so. It’s just not. Really.
Greg, you’ve clearly never seen a mother struggle to feed her child or seen how much pain it can cause. It’s not funny and it really is VERY anti-feminist. Don’t repeat it and most certainly don’t make it worse by defending it. This one is open and shut simple.
What? She was not talking about an inability to breast-feed, she was clearly talking about “premature weaning.”
Look, do you know what psychoanalytic theory said about premature weaning? Through Flory’s early adulthood at least, it was a “pop psych” theory about the genesis of personality disorders about which many people, including feminists, joked.
I understand that, given your youth, you didn’t get the reference. Please, though, get the explanation. Your reaction is inappropriate.
Greg, you’re beating a bush that doesn’t exist.
The comment was stupid, in very poor taste, and is anti-feminist. You’re way off base and it sounds like you’re not at all up to date with the current breast feeding dialogue. Comments like Ms. Flory’s don’t have a place in the 21st century. Perhaps they did in the 20th.
If and when I have time, I’ll give you the 1200 word version, but for now you’ll have to take a leap and understand that my comments have a very deep root in modern feminist theory, being a father, and personal experience with very real difficulties of breast feeding. My comments are very appropriate and you’d do well do not jump to Ms. Flory’s defense.
She’s speaking from the perspective of a 20th-century upbringing. The joke means something different than what you (and perhaps others) think that it would mean now.
FWIW, one of my grandson’s came close to dying as a newborn due to an allergy to breast milk. I’m familiar with at least some of the possible problems that woman and infants can have. I cannot imagine that that had anything to do with the joke. Ask her (nicely) on Facebook if you’d like.
@ryan…….sounds like your mom didn’t breast feed you at all. Please, do the feminists a favor and don’t speak for them They have bigger fish to fry.
Oh hey look! My first cowardly anonymous attack! Very exciting.
Thank you OC Citizen. May I have another?
It’s as funny as “the horse be with you.”
What goes around comes around. Travis Kiger is webmaster for a blog that specializes in personal attacks made in poor taste, where nothing is out of bounds. His “I didn’t write that” excuse is weak and pathetic.
Since Kiger runs that blog, he shouldn’t be surprised at getting the same treatment at city council meetings.