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Over the weekend, California Governor Jerry Brown signed AB 131 into law. The legislation joins AB 130, which was signed earlier this year. Together, the two bills authored by Gil Cedillo will allow AB 540 students to apply for and receive scholarships at private and public colleges and universities starting in 2012 and 2013 respectively. Undocumented students now how a greater means to finance their educational aspirations. Unlike the federal DREAM Act, the California DREAM Act does not provide a pathway to citizenship and where future graduates will go with degrees in hand remains an open question. Still, it is a great victory for all those student activists and allies who have worked hard to arrive to this day.
“Going to college is a dream that promises intellectual excitement and creative thinking. The Dream Act benefits us all by giving top students a chance to improve their lives and the lives of all of us,” Brown said in a written statement. This is welcomed, given the fact that the Governor could have cowered to xenophobia and deny the public college portion of the legislation.
For more information, the following is a California Dream Act Fact Sheet on the legislation provided by the Dream Resource Center:
Background
AB 540, a California law passed in 2001, allows students to pay in-state tuition rates if they meet all of the following requirements:
1) Attended a California high school for 3 or more years.
2) Graduated from a California high school with a high school diploma or attained the equivalent (GED).
3) After getting accepted to a California public university or college, if undocumented, the student must file an affidavit with the intended college or university stating their eligibility under AB 540 and intention of applying for a lawful immigration status as soon as they are eligible.
Before AB 130 and AB 131, AB 540 status holders who were undocumented did not qualify for financial aid administered by the state or their respective institutions.
AB 130
What does AB 130 do for undocumented students?
In the past, California public colleges and universities were bound by the state to withhold financial assistance to their undocumented students. AB 130 gives California public colleges and universities the opportunity to allow undocumented students to apply and compete for scholarship awards. These include scholarships funded through private donors, alumni contributions or individual departmental efforts.
How can an undocumented student access funds made available by AB 130?
Students must apply and compete for available awards as outlined by their respective college or university. Provisions of AB 130 will not go into effect until January 1, 2012.
AB 131
What does AB 131 do for undocumented students?
In the past, the State of California did not administer a financial aid program for undocumented students. This bill allows undocumented students who qualify for AB 540 to participate in state funded financial aid programs:
- AB 131 calls for California’s community colleges to allow students to apply for the Board of Governor’s Fee Waivers, which waive the educational fees of qualifying low-income students.
- AB 131 also calls for the establishment of procedures and forms that would enable current AB 540 status holders to apply for, and participate in, other student aid programs administered by California’s public colleges and universities such as institutional aid derived from tuition revenue.
- Lastly, AB 131 calls for the State of California to allow AB-540 status holders to participate in any state-administered financial aid programs such as Cal Grants. However, funds for the Competitive Cal Grants will not be made available to undocumented students unless funding remains available after their California resident counterparts have received theirs. Please see http://www.calgrants.org/ for information on the different types of Cal Grants that California administers. According to a statement released by the Office of Governor Jerry Brown, “The California Department of Finance estimates that 2,500 students will qualify for Cal Grants as a result of AB 131.
How can an undocumented student access funds made available by AB 131?
For institutional-based awards, students must apply and compete for available awards as outlined by their respective college or university. For Cal Grants or other state funded assistance, the California Student Aid Commission will develop a system for applying to aid, given that undocumented students cannot apply for FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid) in order to determine their income level and need. Information on new processes will be disseminated as soon as it is available. Provisions of AB 131 will not go into effect until January 1, 2013.
A sad day when law breakers are officially rewarded.
Such animus to innocent, hard-working young people brought here by their parents who in turn were just trying to make a living. Unseemly for a Christian.
He needs to read the Good Samaritan …….
Read it many times and live my life by that credo. That has nothing to do with providing government benefits to those violating the law.
What law are they violating, Geoff? Please be specific. This is a test.
Or Leviticus 19: 33-34
A happy day when hard working and very deserving kids get the opportunity to better themselves and THEIR country.
Onanster,
THEIR country….. waving Mexican flag?
Every so often Stanley makes sense.
Really? You liked that one? What percentage of Mexican-Americans do you think go around waving the Mexican flag? And you really think any of these Dream-Act kids are going around waving the Mexican flag?
Stanley sometimes makes sense, but this was not a case of it. This was a case of him throwing out such a dumb and cliched red herring that everyone else just ignored it till now.
Although really you and Stanley are both impugning the patriotism of good young people that you’ve never met or seen or know anything about, and that’s reprehensible.
Nelson you should learn how to play violins instead of piano.
I would shed a tear with your crapola.
For students who came here as children, brought in by their parents, what is the mens rea? You do realize that unauthorized presence in the U.S. is not a criminal act, right?
“You do realize that unauthorized presence in the U.S. is not a criminal act, right?”…… Mmmmm
Prove it!
If the parents rob the bank would the children be eligible to keep the money?
The pro Castro communist Brown said yes!
I should add that Brown’s visit of Cuba and talk witch Castro was illegal too.
So it is not surprise to me that a criminal would support criminality.
Hang on their, Camarillo — don’t you claim to be a lawyer?
You want me to prove that there’s not such a law? How about you trying (in vain) to prove that there IS such a law?
You can also try to prove that there’s no law saying that after your first 100 spelling or grammatical errors in a one-month period, you owe the owner of the blog where you comment $10 per error.
FYI, moron mongoloid from Encino, I control language as I am the writer.
It is your responsibility to understand my writings.
However, I doubt that my improved spieling would made any difference since your cranium is occupied by the brown rater than gray matter.
FYI, it is Camaro not Camarillo you are spelling it wrong.
When you look at any criminals other good acts that goes to sentencing mot liability. There may be “good people” committing all sorts of crimes, that doesn’t forgive the crime.
Vern, cheap shot – enforcing the law of the land does not impact Christian belief. Just because you disagree with the law, that doesn’t make me insensitive by wanting to respect the rule of law.
Yes, terrible, terrible criminals these kids. It’s WEIRD that you people find their transgressions so severe. It really makes the rest of us wonder about you guys.
First I speak for myself and not this amorphous “you people” (which liberals use even though if conservatives used a phrase like that it would instantly be viewed as “ist” [racist, sexist, etc]). Second, give me another example where promoting something illegal is touted as virtue and then we can talk. I find it unbelievable that you are called callous and unchristian if you simply want to follow the letter of the law.
It’s more than just following the law at this point. Even Tustin schools are now going down the tubes. With Mexican illegal immigrants (And I say this because not all illegal immigrants bring such burden to American Society) comes a population that brings their complete disregard for educating themselves.
With Mexican illegal immigration comes mostly the worst of the worst parents as far as caring that their children are educated. Illegal immigration has always been a part of this country and the American people have not really cared, until it really started to effect the quality of their daily lives.
This dream act is despise because the American people don’t want to invest any more with a population of people that not only has destroyed their own country, but is bringing this countries education system, quality of the communities and over all American culture of self respect, family, education, and love of country to a halt! But this country has only themselves to blame because for decades they have allow people in power to allow this to happen.
So as my name says so, I’m Illegal. I was brought to the U.S. 8 years ago by my parents. My mom Has been great at helping me with my education. They are very involved, so for you to come and give such a general statement about immigrant parents is just disgusting.
I’m in the top 10 rank of my class, I have all AP and Honors classes. In those most of the kids are of some “non-American” descent. Most of them are first generation “Americans” or immigrants.
And i quote Americans because, according to your beliefs, I don’t qualify as an “American.” But you know what? I AM AN AMERICAN, A PROUD ONE!!! Because The United States of America is my nation. Because I can proudly say the Pledge of Alliegance and sing MY National Anthem.
Yes, I am Mexican, but I am MORE of an American. Because I love this country, and although I was born in Mexico I have grown up here. I speak English perfectly and Spanish the same, and I’m on the process of speaking French. But MY language is English, like the one of any other American.
I’m no criminal, my parents brought me here so i could get a better education, because alot of “American” kids have it on the palm of their hands but chose to throw it away. Some smoke it away, shoot it away, or just simply don’t take the opportunity because they don’t want to continue on with school. Since I am an American I chose to fight for My oppotunity because I have earned it!
Without getting into the pro’s and con’s of these two bills (DREAM Act at the State Level):
it is interesting that MQ states that she fears and hates Mexican’s because “[their] comes a population that brings their complete [DISREGARD FOR EDUCATING THEMSELVES] “, when this bill and the federal DREAM Act is about Mexican kids and their Mexican parents WANTING TO BE EDUCATED, and also for the opportunity to also SERVE in the US military which is the only country they have known and pledged their allegiance to it continuously.
These kids want the opportunity to EARN LEGAL status, and to then contribute to the DEFENSE (through US military service) and betterment (through their education) of the only country they really know.
Often, we have made the investments in their K-12 education, on which the US Supreme Court has ruled many times, and this might be a way for CA & the USA maximizing their talents for our benefit in the long-run.
Illegal Student
Francisco Barragan
Both please notice that calling me a hater will only solidify my determination that the Dream Act will be overturned.
I am sick and tired of your stigmatization.
You have pushed wrong button this time.
Careful, everyone! Camarillo might use his “intellect” to scuttle the law!
First of all I can say, “Good for you for doing well in school”. Your parents must have put in some effort and you must have had pretty good teachers. You are both lucky and one of the very few that is hispanic (mostly Mexican) that is doing well in school. I am not berating you, I am telling you the truth.
The fact is, that a lot of mostly Mexican parents are NOT doing their job and that is why Santa Ana schools are failing miserably! Not to mention the fact that schools treat hispanic children like welfare cases instead of students. There is no accountability in schools that have mostly hispanic students and that is another reason for the massive academic failure.
If you are illegal you are breaking the law and if you were to try to travel outside of the country, you know that getting back in would be difficult. If border control was to question you and find that you were trying to stay here, or you have been living here without permission, you would be deported.
I understand your love for this country, I too, came here from another country and became a citizen. I know that Mexico is not the country you want to belong too, but you do. Your best bet is to do well in school wait to see what happens. I feel for you, I really do, but the reason why people like myself are so upset, is really to do with the fact that you are the type of hispanic student everyone what their child to go to school with, but atlas you are one of a kind when it comes to your population. You only need to look at mostly all of the schools that have a mostly hispanic majority.
And you don’t fight for it because you feel that you are an American, you fight for it, or better yet actually take the time to learn because you want it! Good luck to you and if you live in Santa Ana, move out ASAP!
@FromTheExile:
Look at your comment at 6:10pm.
You are imagining some slights against you.
Please, Tell us where I called you hater, or how I was stigmatizing you, or how I “pushed your wrong buttons” this time on this post?
“it is interesting that MQ states that she fears and hates Mexican’s because “[their] comes a population that brings their complete [DISREGARD FOR EDUCATING THEMSELVES] “, ”
MQ says:
I have NEVER stated that I fear or hate anyone? I have stated that for everyone’s sake Mexican parents need to turn off their spanish TV, try to learn the language and respect the fact that the school is a place to learn, not an opportunity for them to get their nails done or to watch their favorite Mexican soap opera! ( I think Obama said some of the same!).
Hate only has its palace it seems, in the hearts of a lot of Mexicans, as they massacre each other for money! Hate only has a place for groups that call themselves THE RACE (La Raza). I am pointing out the problems that makes the Mexican illegal population not favorable replacements for legal immigrants that come here to actually learn, educate their kids well and bring to the American table virtues, not vices!
Mexican people are very like the Irish catholics in Northern Ireland, expect the Catholic population in Northern Ireland now know from experience, that an education is the most important gift you can give your child, instead of that nice fat creamy bun bought by welfare money!
As I have said before, you Mr. Barragan have made a living of the illegal immigrant population misbehaving and you are not about to tell them, ” An education is their ticket off government or Non -Profit dependence”…..That is bad for business!
As far as the “Dream Act”, its just plain stupid that illegal Aliens would get aid, were an out of state citizen could not!
Stupid, and the reason it will not take effect until 2013….They will scrap it! Thats another thing that bothers me about illegal immigrants, they really think liberal Americans have their back, when black Americans have voted them in for 40yrs and look what thats got them….Never, ever trust an American liberal, they are not the people you want to follow or take advice from!
@ MQ:
You state, “As I have said before, you Mr. Barragan have made a living of the illegal immigrant population misbehaving and you are not about to tell them, ” An education is their ticket off government or Non -Profit dependence”…..That is bad for business!”
My Response:
1) I have NEVER earned a penny from any not-for-profit organization…Michelle Q…but you have a tendency to MISCONSTRUE, so your statement is as expected.
My involvement and that of others has been to volunteer, except for the not-for-profits that do require the paid staff to run the programs that teach self-sustainability. Some have their own paid staff, which is necessary, but I have never earned a penny from any of them.
My involvement has “cost” me thousands of hours and thousands of dollars….and just like before, I invite you again to join me and “profit” like I have.
You can reach me at barraganfj@gmail.com / (714) 605-2544 cell
You can pick from the various organizations that you can “profit” from by volunteering with:
A) Homeless veterans.
B) Domestic Violence / Human Trafficking Survivors
C) Affordable dignified housing for low income families & the college academic advising component.
D) Tutoring or Mentoring kids.
E) Speaking/teaching youth about college & entrepreneurial opportunities (Youth Motivation Task Force; High School inc; Junior Achievement)
F) Setting up professional growth workshops for college students & other professionals.
G) Advocating for our returning veterans with their TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) / PTSD; mental and medical healthcare; job/entrepreneurial training (by setting up some job fairs for them by reaching out to Corporate Sponsors; Recruiters etc.
H) Helping citizens and residents with issues: Advocating for them with the labor commission when someone is not paying them their just overtime compensation; when a city is trying to have their secondary house torn down (although they are entitled to an In-law unit);
I) advocating against police brutality issues. Unfortunately, sometimes some bad cops misuse authority which can undermine the great and courageous work that most police officers do. A young man recently, almost lost his life; another accused of a crime that evidence indicates he had no involvement with, and there has never been a record of any misconduct by this young man.
take your choice…again you have my email and my phone # above.
Quinn, ignorantly slandering good people as always.
Quinn: really? oiut of state students don’t get aid???? Do you know the definition of an AB540 student? Please do me the favor of educating yourself before you say something you not know of. thank you
“Do you know the definition of an AB540 student?’….. Hmmmmm
There will be amendments!
The AB540 is gateway law, ambiguous and broad.
Quinn, you are saying that out of state students don’t get help, please illustrate us in what an AB54o student is. Because according to what i know, it is clearly stated that AB540 students are out of state students.
“A) Homeless veterans.
B) Domestic Violence / Human Trafficking Survivors
C) Affordable dignified housing for low income families & the college academic advising component.
D) Tutoring or Mentoring kids.
E) Speaking/teaching youth about college & entrepreneurial opportunities (Youth Motivation Task Force; High School inc; Junior Achievement)
F) Setting up professional growth workshops for college students & other professionals.”
MQ says:
1. If our government would stop wasting money on left wing socialist programs, there would be no homeless vet’s. Most vet’s who are homeless, tend to have mental issues and most don’t want to live in a home. That is a fact, and the fact is our government cares more about making kids fat off cal fresh, than giving the mental health help that many vets need.
2. There are victims of violence all over this world that I would rather lend my time and money too. Too many families are abandoning their value of taking care of their own. No woman should have to go anywhere except to her family if she needs help. This country is packed with all sorts of programs that aid women, who knew the man that they were marrying was a jerk. Its take for women in this country to start getting a grip. Stop bringing children into a violent home!
3. if you can’t afford your own home to bring your family up in, don’t have a family until you do! This is one of the worst excuse for people to get a roof over their head because they made a bad choice in having children without planning for it. Unless a family has had a medical or family crisis like death…pay for your own bloody home!
4. And as far as helping community with issues, illegal immigrants for south of the border is one of the biggest problems we have within our communities. I believe that letting the illegal immigrant population know that they need to either start improving their attitudes towards education, teen pregnancy and child neglect (which strongly leads to gang involvement) or they will continue to decrease the quality of life in many neighborhoods, and become the new black population, that has for decades destroyed their communities and the chance for their children to have a better life. By voicing the problems is the best thing I can do for my community and country!
And Mr. B, when you lied about the fact that I have stated that I fear and hate hispanics, makes me only think, anything else you might say to me is suspect!
I am not slandering anyone, just making them aware that the mostly Mexican population, especially in California need to get off the welfare, start learning English and take the time to go to a PTA meeting. Too many don’t do this, and this is why their children are failing in school! And I might add; making a healthy lunch would be a good idea, too many of their children are on free school dinners and the food is awful and is one of the reasons the hispanic kids are looking huge these days!
wow!!! MQ “the new black population”
I say:
Can you get anymore racist than that??????????????????????????
and your #3. What about rape victims? the babies, although not planned, don’t deserve to no be brought up in this world. But sometimes the victims need governmant help to raise the kid.
And immigrants are also from other places other than south of the border.
Yes, the fact is that the black population followed the same idiot socialist dream that the demorats have fed them, and now have a nearly 88% single female home with the males leaving their families to be taken care of by the government. And now the hispanics with the huge growth in single women having children and more and more dependence on welfare, then yes the hispanic will become the new black population. It is not racist to state a fact!
Ah, you are a budding liberal using the old RAPE taking point….If someone is raped, have the child adopted out or go home to your family to help raise the child. Or better yet use the 24hr abortion pill! Most people who use section 8 are not rape victims, they are people who have no business having kids, and in most of our communities are illegal immigrants, using their American born child to get benefits, like housing!
You said it yourself ” some shoot, some take dope etc…that is also a big problem within the black community. And it’s not a race problem, it happens with many white europeans; it is a welfare caused problem.
Well then next time, please dont use a prejudist expression.
Now you are saying that these women and in some cases girls, should take away the right to be born from these kids or throw them into the foster home system? why not try their best to race them? I understand that not all people will do this successfully, but you are denying them the chance to do so!
Vern, can you start printing Mitey Quinn’s comments in a clear font?
The “this comment is probably racist” tag can be fire-engine red.
Call it an intervention for all races who need a reality check.
As far as the 540 idiot Davis bill..with that you have to be here three years in a California school. So with the stupid dream act, a foreign national could go to school here and get finacial aid for college, but a citizen family who move here could not get aid for their citizen child, because they did not go to school here?? Very stupid! Anyway, I nackered..nite:)
@ Michelle Q:
PART 1:
1) So far I have not seen how you are helping out or will be helping out homeless veterans.
2) Domestic Violence is about control and manipulation. And it is extremely difficult for young and older women (who are the primary victims to escape this), especially because there are NOT enough emergency shelters or services that a victim can escape too, while they are transitioning out of this violent environment.
How are you helping?
3) Also, runaway teenagers tend to be forced into prostitution because they are deceived into it, kept against their wills, raped, beaten, or denied food and water or all of the above. And it is also difficult for them to escape this because many times there are NO shelters to put them into temporarily while law enforcement attempts to rescue them from this situation.
How are you helping?
4) Voicing problems…any one can do that. Working on solutions and implementing these, takes real effort and real involvement.
PART II:
You state, “And Mr. B, when you lied about the fact that I have stated that I fear and hate hispanics, makes me only think, anything else you might say to me is suspect!”
Okay . . . let’s see how you consistently show your “love” of Mexicans.
MQ says on September 26, 2011 at 10:56 PM, “Just wanted to remind people, not even the muslims cut off their women’s heads…..Just Mexicans! OMG….What a fuc** society!”
My Response:
This after well-publicized cases:
“Syria – Zainab al Hosni believed to be killed in Custody” Sept 23, 2011 – “A young woman was found BEHEADED and mutilated, apparently by Syrian security agents”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/syria-zainab-al-hosni-died-custody_n_977550.html
“After BEHEADING, Indonesia bars maids from Saudi Arabia” June 24, 2011.
http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/06/24/after-beheading-indonesia-bans-maids-from-work-in-saudi-arabia/
Muslim Woman brutally BEHEADED (Feb 19, 2009) Buffalo NY,
http://www.care2.com/causes/muslim-woman-brutally-beheaded.html
“Serbs BEHEADED Bosniak Victims, and played soccer with chopped-off heads”
http://bosniangenocide.wordpress.com/2011/03/27/serbs-beheaded-bosniak-victims-played-soccer-with-chopped-off-heads/
And finally, look-up Rwanda Genocide and others.
YEP Michelle Q., I can see how your statements are always completely truthful.
P.S. My references are not meant to imply that ONLY muslims/arabs or Serbs are violent and engage in beheadings, rather that there are some very evil people in this world, and they come in all shapes, sizes, nationalities and colors.
And we must be ever vigilant against this from anyone that would victimize others, or who directly or indirectly incite or imply hatred or violence against anyone of any group just because they are of a particular group.
It is only one of the things the government should actually do as far as social programs…You asked them to fight for the country, now look after them. That is what are taxes should go towards, not research on the black widow, or preserving an area where the long haired bunny rabbit lives! We have plenty of resources to take care of our vet’s…but the government is busy making people fat and lazy and preserving stupid causes!
Women are adults, not children. It is the children that are the victims of women’s bad choices in life. And, for God Sake, Mr. B. There are hundreds of women shelters. In fact Lucy Dunn has made a nice business out of it I hear. Yeah, I no that it cost just 800,00 to build a shelter…Nice little pocket money for developers like lennar development. I think they build most of the shelters?
Run away teens tend to come from either broken homes or single mother homes. I go on and on about broken homes and single mother’s, well this is what you get; Teen’s that are lost and out in a really bad world.
Family units are failing all over this world and kids are the victims. Children being sold into prostitution is in part the result of families selling their kids for money. A lot of children are abused in this world, it is up to the societies with these problems to fix it, it cannot be fixed from in the outside in.
I don’t dislike the Mexican’s, I just think that culturally they are in big trouble and with that said, they have brought with them a lot of their societies problems. No real value in eduction, children having children, single mothers, gangs, drugs, and neglect of children leading to gang involvement. I will say that it surprised me that drug cartels would go so low as to cut the head off an innocent woman, but it does not surprise me that the muslims would do it. Its there favorite way to instill fear. And now the Mexicans, have followed suit I see!
Mexican people need to learn that this country is not supposed to love them, they are supposed to love this country and do everything in their power to make it a place were all immigrants want to come too, not the opposite.
I have said many times before, Mexican people are their own worst enemy and that is evident in the fact that they would support a drug cartel leader, instead of their government, who are at least, trying to stop the country becoming even worse than it already is! Its time for the people of Mexico to step up to the plate and fix their problems and stop blaming everyone else for their countries problems, because if it was really true that Mexico is a dump because of US involvement then why is Canada doing so well? I don’t see the Canadians asking for the Dream Act?
“Quinn, ignorantly slandering good people as always.”
Not like those inciteful comments Vern always directs at Christians who say such controversial things like they support upholding the law.
For the record, I think Quinn deserves all the flack she’s getting for her shameful comments.
Christians like me and Gericault?
There are many laws, as the hot chicks in Machete like to say. There are minor, less important laws, and when some people choose to fixate on as though they were all-important ones, it makes people wonder about their real motivations.
There is more shame to bringing a child into violence, more shame that our government waste millions and more shame for a child to leave their home because they feel unloved. My comments are shameful, because the shame is, it’s the truth!
Then what are you?
Was this a reply to me? If so, I repeat my post of 8:18 last evening, as you didn’t address it.
You lot are such a bunch of plonker’s!
It does not kick in until 2013 for a reason….They don’t have the money!
This law is going to be dropped like a big rock.
Ditto!
Another smoke screen.
Bet allan mansoor is pissed off
… if he’s noticed.
To anyone else who may post anything critical of the “Dream” act:
Don’t. Unless, of course, you enjoy being perceived as a “racist,” “hate-mongerer,” “agent of intolerance,” etc.
I enjoy it cause I know it from the real racist, hate-mongerer etc….Bring it on! The truth is the truth!
The truth is immigration both documented or undocumented/illegal, have a positive impact on the US Economy and on the wages of “natives”, per the June 2007 White House Council of Economic Advisers study on “Immigration’s Economic Impact”.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/cea/cea_immigration_062007.html
I prefer the term “unauthorized,” which seems closest to the point at hand.
Good link there.
Le Dai Khoa,
It is my duty to protect my child with my tax money not your or someone else child of the illegal tax deadbeat.
My child first!
That is not “racist”, “hate-mongerering” nor “intolerant” you moron mongoloid.
I will not watch my child strawing and die so your child can live.
You take care of your child and make sure that before you drag it here that the grading is legal.
You moron, Le Dai Khoa is on your side. I guess since he/she has an exotic name, you assume they’re an “illegal tax deadbeat.” Ha. Serves you both right, you deserve each other.
Oh is that so???
my parents pay taxes every year. And Once I turn 18, I will do the same. They pay more taxes than you do and get less money back because they are illegal. So they pay for your kids education too!!! Stop wining!
BS talking point!
How do you know how much tax I pay.
Indeed! You should post your returns, Camarillo!
Was it your dad that used my social security number to work for the city of Costa Mesa?
He’s right, by his stealing of my identity, the IRS comes after me for more taxes.
Amazing what morons live here in California.
From The Exile: Because Illegal Immigrants are charged more, and get paid less.
MikeM128: My dad works with his own ITIN number why thank you!
Good posts here today, by the way. I hope that this law helps you out.
Thank you, Greg. I am looking forward to becoming an architecture and a history major!
I can introduce you to a college roommate of mine, a professor in the Bay Area, who teaches History of Architecture. See, networking helps!
My son just graduated UCLA with history and animation – but he started in architecture. You sound like him!
Jerry Brown sealed his political fate by signing this bill.
It’s all good though, I have every confidence this will be overturned. Anyone remember Gray Davis signing that idiotic bill to give licenses to illegals, and how quickly that was overturned?
Oh YEAH, Jerry’s going DOWN now! Michelle and Le Dai KNOW it.
Yeah, he’s DOOMED! hahaha.
He is not doomed, but he will do nothing to bring this state out of a down turn. Businesses are leaving and taxpayers and fed up and thats not good for his image. He is full of himself and thats going to hurt him more than anything!
Good night!
“Businesses are leaving” — prove it, compared to other states. (And yes, I’d be happy to talk about Texas, the “Minimum Wage Job State.”)
“Taxpayers are fed up” — any polling evidence? Or is this just your projection?
Get out more often, Mr. Diamond. People are pissed off for many reasons. I have had 3 friends leave in the last 6 months, due to their companies leaving the state….It’s a fact, I don’t need to start a poll, its evident all around us with a 12% unemployment rate and it WILL get worse!
i get the reason behind this but just cannot support helping an illegal alien, period. I am not surprised at all that this happened in California, a State that is broke, that turns away qualified legals. However, since it has been said not to take it out on the children for what their parents did I have a request for some parity: end affirmative action and anything that resembles it. I am NOT responsible for the treatment of blacks by my ancestors. Why should I, a white male, be docked points because of what my ancestors did. Huh? tell me why.
From The Exile:
I’m flabbergasted at how completely the concept of sarcasm is lost on you.
Also, I find it humorous that you call me a moron while failing to grasp said sarcasm, AND presenting us with the golden gem, “I will not watch my child strawing and die…”
I am Mr. sarcasm here but your writing did not appear to me as sarcastic because there is missing the quantifying reference to establish who you are.
Without that you are another moron mongoloid.
I should add that if the purpose of your sarcasm was to piss off readers then you have succeeded in which case you should not complain that you are misunderstood.
the dream act is a bunch of crap . think about this ILLEGALS GET MONEY THAT AMERICAN KIDS DONT . someone is trying to get signatures now to get this on the ballot so we can vote this stupid law down signed by i kiss the unions ass brown .
California dream act is smoke and mirrors, Like building a wall on the moon to keep the Martins on one side and the Venusians on the other, a totally waste of space.
Is Rick Perry a liberal too? He signed almost the identical bill in Texas.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2011/07/26/rick-perry-still-supports-texas-dream-act/
Funny. Remember when the Republicans suddenly started losing interest in Perry when he accused his critics on the Texas Dream Act of “not having a heart.”
That was one time I got to feel like I was smarter than Rachel Maddow.
She said something like, “That will make Republicans madder than anything, telling them they don’t have a heart.”
And I said to my TV screen, “No, that’s not what pissed them off. They were disgusted that the guy they had just been considering voting in for President was up there CLAIMING TO HAVE A HEART.” Yuck! Big girly-man.
I do not understand why are you so stupid Nelson that you can’t comprehend that it is not actual Dream Act but the way it was implemented which people are upset about.
They hate communist Brown and Mexicans in Sacramento!
The Dream Act is catalytic force where the whites and reasonable Latinos are dropping their stigmatization of being racist and haters.
This is how the California will look soon under Mexican legislation.
http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/mexicodrugwardheadsimage.jpg
We do not want that!!!!!!!
Brown knows he has no future, There is no future for acid heads. Stop electing bad lawyers as politicians, He is a disgrace, as is our president. I wish our leaders name was Morello and he was a former small business man, or woman.
If the students are residents of California, then they do not need this legislation.
If you classify these student at not legal residents, does that mean there are foreign nationals?
How does this effect students from other states coming to the universities in California?
I don’t think these legislation in California and Texas commonly called the dream act are valid.
Section 10: Limits on the States
Deals with foreign counties and nationals are reserve for the federal government and denied to the states. So if they be residents, there is no need, but if they be foreign nationals the courts would toss it.
I’m wondering if “One bill Gil” Cedillo will make yet another (what would it be, the tenth?) attempt to pass his “drivers license for illegals” bill now that Jerry Brown is in office.
I’m fairly certain he will, as I’m fairly certain every Cedillo bill to land on Brown’s desk has been approved so far.
That was clearly a mistake if you believe in a sustainable future. Mexico will encourage its citizens to have even more children they can’t afford to take care of. Plus, it’s sad to see politicians not address the root of the problem which is greedy Mexicans and Americans that abuse illegal immigrant labor.